Pathfinder Player Companion: Legacy of Dragons (PFRPG)

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The Power of Dragons Is Yours

Few creatures inspire greater awe than dragons, and Pathfinder Player Companion: Legacy of Dragons dives into the ripples left in these mighty creatures' wake. Whether they help or harm, dragons make a lasting impression, from the legends and philosophies they inspire to the bloodlines they foster.

Inside this book you'll find:

  • New archetypes ranging from the dragonheir scion to the wyrmwitch, allowing players to access draconic appearances as well as lore, powers, and spells.
  • Ways for characters to enlist drakes and lesser dragons to serve as allies, improved familiars, and even flying mounts.
  • New draconic bloodlines for bloodragers and sorcerers, allowing eldritch abilities based on esoteric, imperial, outer, and primal dragons.

This Pathfinder Player Companion is intended for use with the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, but can be easily incorporated into any fantasy world.

ISBN-13: 978-1-60125-853-3

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Packed with good options for your use

*****

I enjoyed this book (I got the print edition). It offers good options for use for a player with a dragon bloodline. And I don't mean just the sorcerer bloodlines, although they are in there too. There are options and archetypes for your use. Well worth the price.


Fluff good, not much else is.

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I wanted to like this book. I really, really, really did. The fluff is great, and the 'premise' of the archetypes and drakes are nice.

But.

Both the archetypes, and the drake companions themselves, have some of the worst balancing I have seen in pathfinder. An example of this is the druid, who replaces an animal companion with a drake companion. The drake is actually weaker then alot of normal animal companion choices, and to take the archetype actually removes six of his core abilities just for the drake part of the archetype, never mind the additional abilities changed for the other parts of the archetype.

I really hope at some point paizo revisits the idea of these drake archetypes and companions and does a tremendous re-balancing, as many of these archetypes feel almost unplayable with how bad they can gimp a character.


The new Dragon-themed options are BAD

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I picked up this book excited to create my new "Dragon" themed character and all the options were very weak. Also, throughout the book there were sentences repeated over and over again. I waited months for this issue and I'm completely disappointed. It's the worst Player Companion I've ever read.


Some bad, some good. Sorta meh

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This book has a few good ideas and some great flavor text.

It falls short on the mechanics side though, especially with the archetypes that involve drakes. The cavalier archetype that gets a drake is the worst, and is so bad, I think the writer(s) who made it have never played a cavalier before, it just guts the class.

There are some glaring typos in the book, like a certain fighter archetype replacing a bonus feat at a level that the fighter does not get a bonus feat on.

This book could have been, dare I say SHOULD have been, so much more.


Great Flavor, Great Options

*****

While I usually like some sections of the player companion line, I very rarely like all of them. This is the rare exception. Excellent character options, monsters, and spells throughout.


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Announced! Cover image and description not final.
Also, FINALLY a book on this topic. :3


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I will be getting this one!


Yay! Dragons!!!


Wow, that is one of the most vague descriptions for a product I've ever read. Dragon stuff obviously, but darn. I guess I'll have to wait to find out what's in there when I pick it up.


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It is very mysterious. I would love a book like this for fey.


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Dragon78

But you're a DRAGON!?!


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Will this get into Xa Hoi and it's Dragon Kings?
That seems like the epitome of the topic as far as Golarion goes...?


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Thomas Seitz, How did you know;)

Contributor

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Thomas Seitz wrote:

Dragon78

But you're a DRAGON!?!

Well I reckon 'e's one 'o dem self-atin' dragons! Ain't nuttin' more sad thenna self-'aitin' dragon!


Dragon78 wrote:
Thomas Seitz, How did you know;)

The picture was kind of a give away....

Paizo Employee Developer

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Unshocking data point: People with dragon avatars are really into dragons.


Adam Daigle wrote:
Unshocking data point: People with dragon avatars are really into dragons.

Indeed. Just like people with Orcus in their avatars love demons and/or Orcus.

Dark Archive

Valantrix1 wrote:
Wow, that is one of the most vague descriptions for a product I've ever read. Dragon stuff obviously, but darn. I guess I'll have to wait to find out what's in there when I pick it up.

You are right Valantrix1.

The only things i can make out from the description to be in this book seem to be new dragon-themed bloodlines for sorcerers and battleragers.

A time dragon bloodline would be nice.
I'm thinking some ability that lets you increase your own initiative or decrease another one (maybe by a d6).


Marco,

Maybe they'll discuss like dragon magic for more than just bloodline casters.

Like maybe they'll do occult rituals that grant the target fear auras.

Silver Crusade

Quandary wrote:

Will this get into Xa Hoi and it's Dragon Kings?

That seems like the epitome of the topic as far as Golarion goes...?

That, as well as Mengkare and his nation of Hermea. I'd definitely like to learn more about that whole situation, though I doubt I'll find it in this book :-P


Probably not Phylotus.

But we might find other things.


Adam Daigle wrote:
Unshocking data point: People with dragon avatars are really into dragons.

What does my avatar say about me?

Dark Archive

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

Hey, I got dragon avatar because void dragon has cool shade of green and at time it was one of avatars nobody else had picked <_< And I couldn't find cool crow avatar

Anyhoo, Legacy huh. Sounds like new line. I wonder if its like Blood of lines for ancient things or if its chronicling effects on world by super ancient beings xD

Paizo Employee Developer

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Odraude wrote:
Adam Daigle wrote:
Unshocking data point: People with dragon avatars are really into dragons.
What does my avatar say about me?

Oh, I think you know.


Valantrix1 wrote:
Wow, that is one of the most vague descriptions for a product I've ever read. Dragon stuff obviously, but darn. I guess I'll have to wait to find out what's in there when I pick it up.

You probably won't have to wait that long. This was just announced, and as Liz mentioned, it's not the final description.


oooooh....


Heine Stick wrote:
Valantrix1 wrote:
Wow, that is one of the most vague descriptions for a product I've ever read. Dragon stuff obviously, but darn. I guess I'll have to wait to find out what's in there when I pick it up.
You probably won't have to wait that long. This was just announced, and as Liz mentioned, it's not the final description.

True, but the final description probably won't come for about 5 months. Right now, that seems like forever. The rampant speculation will be fun though.


Pathfinder Campaign Setting, Companion, Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Maybe we will find out more before that, like during Paizo Con or something.


Adam Daigle wrote:
Odraude wrote:
Adam Daigle wrote:
Unshocking data point: People with dragon avatars are really into dragons.
What does my avatar say about me?
Oh, I think you know.

You tease :P

So it mentions bloodlines of dragons up there. Could we expect a race of dragon people?


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It could be a lot of things in this one. But I don't want to get my hopes up too much.


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*fingers crossed for all 32 pages on Kobolds*


HOORAY!!!!!!


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*thinks that Odraude's avatar says he likes comets and meteors*

Also the fact that CorvusMask couldn't find a crow avatar just means we need more avatars. :P


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Thomas Seitz wrote:
*thinks that Odraude's avatar says he likes comets and meteors*

Either that or he likes to plant eggs in people and watch them turn into zombie....and eventually watching his young pop out...um

I hope your thinking is closer to the truth.


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Looking at the stuff that is relevant in the 3.5 Pathfinder Stuff that has yet to be updated to the Pathfinder RPG rules there isn't much.

Feats
Draconic Defender: Dragons Revisited
Dragon Discipline: Dragons Revisited


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With all the new dragon types maybe the draconic sorcerer bloodline will get some love.

Dark Archive

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Thomas Seitz wrote:

*thinks that Odraude's avatar says he likes comets and meteors*

Also the fact that CorvusMask couldn't find a crow avatar just means we need more avatars. :P

Ye, lack of crows or ravens or even magpies and jackdaws is pity. Corvidae are the coolest birds!

And there are only two tengu avatars :/


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Maybe there will be feats that give any character draconic abilities/traits.

Silver Crusade

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Please let there be Linnorms
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Please let there be Linnorms and Linnorm Death Curse Rage Powers
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Scarab Sages

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I hope the book contains sorcerer bloodlines for Primal, Occult, and the other dragon varieties, especially the lunar, solar and void.

Dark Archive

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Dragon78 wrote:
Maybe there will be feats that give any character draconic abilities/traits.

I'm definitely hoping for some options for classes other than bloodragers and sorcerers, such as perhaps some dragon-themed bardic masterpieces, or dragon-centric (sub)Domains, or dragon-themed barbarian rage powers or alchemist discoveries or ninja talents, etc. A 'dragoon' gunslinger Archetype that used some sort of dragon-head-shaped flame-spitting blunderbuss would be too hilarious for words.

But yeah, some feats involving unlocking possible dragonic heritage (or just acquired abilities, not necessarily tied to interspecies boinkage) for classes other than sorcerers/bloodragers could be cool as well, allowing a fighter or wizard or ranger or monk to unleash some dragon-themed coolness/whoopass on occasion.

Adam Daigle wrote:
Odraude wrote:
Adam Daigle wrote:
Unshocking data point: People with dragon avatars are really into dragons.
What does my avatar say about me?
Oh, I think you know.

Never trust the people with tentacles right there in their avatar.

EvenEspecially the flumphs.

Lantern Lodge

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Interesting point about what avatars say about people^^

I do hope this book doesn´t mean some kind of dragonborn sneaking in...


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QuidEst wrote:
*fingers crossed for all 32 pages on Kobolds*

We already had a book completely devoted to kobolds, and frankly that's plenty for me. I don't mind a little kobold content, but another 32 pages... no thank you.


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Valantrix1 wrote:
QuidEst wrote:
*fingers crossed for all 32 pages on Kobolds*

We already had a book completely devoted to kobolds, and frankly that's plenty for me. I don't mind a little kobold content, but another 32 pages... no thank you.

*fingers crossed for 64 pages on Kobolds*

Dark Archive

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QuidEst wrote:
Valantrix1 wrote:
QuidEst wrote:
*fingers crossed for all 32 pages on Kobolds*

We already had a book completely devoted to kobolds, and frankly that's plenty for me. I don't mind a little kobold content, but another 32 pages... no thank you.

*fingers crossed for 64 pages on Kobolds*

Clearly the book will be 16 pages on kobolds, 16 pages on half dragon kobolds, 16 pages on wyvarans and final 16 pages for "What happens when chromatic and metallic dragon get too drunk one night" :P


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Feats that grant anyone regardless of race or class low-light vision(or improved low-light vision if you already have), darkvision 60ft(+30ft if you already have), immune to sleep, immune to paralysis, energy resistance 10, draconic wings, etc. Also the requirements should only be based on level, not stats, BA, class, multiple feats, etc.

Rules for Imperial, Primal, Occult, and Outer dragons for half-dragon template, sorcerer bloodline, bloodrager bloodline, etc.


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Adam Daigle wrote:
Unshocking data point: People with dragon avatars are really into dragons.

You called, ma...--wait, I'm the dragon, you're the flu.... *gasps* the tentacles!

Ruyan.


Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

Also: really looking forward to this one!

Ruyan.


Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

will be getting this one!


Nifty


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So, people want this to be an Hardcover?


Pathfinder Campaign Setting, Companion, Roleplaying Game Subscriber

It would need to a hardcover to fit all the stuff that people(like myself) will be asking for.


Dragon-scale cover?


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I so love dragons!!! I wish this was somehow connected to the Dragonrider Class from SSG or Rite Publishings In the Company of Dragons but I'll still purchase this for all its scaley goodness.

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