Pathfinder Adventure Path: Hell's Vengeance Player's Guide PDF

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The Hell's Vengeance Player's Guide gives players all the spoiler-free information, inspiration, and new rules they'll need to create characters prepared for delving into the adventure and intrigue of the Hell's Vengeance Adventure Path, Paizo's first Adventure Path designed for evil player characters.

Within, players of this campaign will find everything they need to create character backgrounds tied to personalities and events vital to Pathfinder Adventure Path's themes of quelling dissent and upholding the infernal laws of Cheliax as villainous agents of the Thrice-Damned House of Thrune, along with new campaign-specific traits to give evil adventurers the edge they'll need to take on the dangerous threats faced in the Hell's Vengeance Adventure Path. This player's guide also features a brief overview of rhe nation of Cheliax where the campaign takes place, various class options and advice for nefarious villains, as well as six pregenerated evil characters ready to take on a Hell's Vengeance campaign.

There's an uprising in Cheliax to put down! Swear your loyalty to the Infernal Majestrix and let the Hell's Vengeance Player's Guide start you down the path to damnation and power.

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Good introduction to Evil

****( )

GOOD:
Comprehensive options for character creation. Gives a good idea of what to expect in the AP.
BAD:
Chaotic evil characters seem shoehorned into this AP and difficult to incorporate.
UGLY:
The duergar antipaladin makes no sense at all.


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Paizo Employee Community & Digital Content Director

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It's up! :)


Yay!


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I love you Chris.


I must be blind...where is it?


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Yay! That must've been a long ass day, sleep well on your bed of teeth and have a restful weekend, you've all certainly earned it.

Paizo Employee Developer

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This has been a long ass week. :)

Thanks Chris for all your help in moving this ball past the goal!


Don't worry Mister Daigle. It's almost over now.

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And if you're itching for an art preview from the Adventure Path, check out the blog :)


It's up, but not downloadable :(

I've been trying for hours.

Liberty's Edge

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Very interesting. It shows all the six villain iconics. I don't know if we knew the names for the three who haven't had Meet the Villains yet.

Un-Met Iconic Villains:
Nyctessa, female dhampir necromancer from Geb
Zelhara, female human inquisitor of Zon-Kuthon from Nidal
Urgraz, male duergar antipaladin

Campaign Traits:
Amoral Mercenary
Apprentice Devilbinder
Asmodean Acolyte
Chelish Noble
Erratic Malefactor
Ex-Iomedaen
Good Slip
Hellknight Aspirant
Local Tough
Scion of the Nine Circles
Thrune Informant

Grand Lodge Contributor

I had trouble downloading in Firefox but it worked immediately in Chrome. I'd suggest trying different browsers.


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Hey, Urgraz:
HOW IS THAT -4 CHARISMA WORKING OUT FOR YOU

Dark Archive

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Bah, again with implying that Nihilists are neutral evil >:(

Anyway, huh,

CE Iconic:
antipaladin to one of ex-qilippoth demon lords.
Cool


I cannot believe that we've dropped to the point of someone needing to go to the product page topic, to post spoilery bits about a free product....

Dark Archive

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I was originally not going to spoiler that, but I noticed everyone else had so I guessed we are supposed to spoiler them?

I think that phenomena has been named by psyhologists, but can't remember name for it

Silver Crusade

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Samy wrote:

Very interesting. It shows all the six villain iconics. I don't know if we knew the names for the three who haven't had Meet the Villains yet.

** spoiler omitted **

** spoiler omitted **

Sooo there's a trait for playing a Good aligned halfing in this AP?

Dark Archive

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Rysky wrote:
Samy wrote:

Very interesting. It shows all the six villain iconics. I don't know if we knew the names for the three who haven't had Meet the Villains yet.

** spoiler omitted **

** spoiler omitted **

Sooo there's a trait for playing a Good aligned halfing in this AP?

Not really, Good Slip is trait for halfling slave loyal to Cheliax for whatever reason(either playing it to your advantage or because you are happy with your situation and believe that if you stay loyal your situation will improve). "Good" refers to how Cheliaxians view you, not your alignment. All of traits either give a reason why character would work for Thrune.

Short versions:

Amoral Mercenary - Money/Power/Prestige
Apprentice Devilbinder - You want to control devils
Asmodean Acolyte - Being raised by Church to be faithful to Asmodeus
Chelish Noble - Pretty obvious
Erratic Malefactor - You want to give in to your darker urges, to do whatever you want
Ex-Iomedaen - You want revenge on Iomedeans
Good Slip - You are halfling slave loyal to Cheliax
Hellknight Aspirant - You want to become Hellknight
Local Tough - You are a thug
Scion of the Nine Circles - Instead of worshipping devils, you believe that laws of Hell make for perfect society.
Thrune Informant - You are a snitch for Thrune government.

Silver Crusade

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CorvusMask wrote:
Rysky wrote:
Samy wrote:

Very interesting. It shows all the six villain iconics. I don't know if we knew the names for the three who haven't had Meet the Villains yet.

** spoiler omitted **

** spoiler omitted **

Sooo there's a trait for playing a Good aligned halfing in this AP?

Not really, Good Slip is trait for halfling slave loyal to Cheliax for whatever reason(either playing it to your advantage or because you are happy with your situation and believe that if you stay loyal your situation will improve). "Good" refers to how Cheliaxians view you, not your alignment. All of traits either give a reason why character would work for Thrune.

Short versions:

Amoral Mercenary - Money/Power/Prestige
Apprentice Devilbinder - You want to control devils
Asmodean Acolyte - Being raised by Church to be faithful to Asmodeus
Chelish Noble - Pretty obvious
Erratic Malefactor - You want to give in to your darker urges, to do whatever you want
Ex-Iomedaen - You want revenge on Iomedeans
Good Slip - You are halfling slave loyal to Cheliax
Hellknight Aspirant - You want to become Hellknight
Local Tough - You are a thug
Scion of the Nine Circles - Instead of worshipping devils, you believe that laws of Hell make for perfect society.
Thrune Informant - You are a snitch for Thrune government.

Oh. Interest gone.

Though Erratic Malefactor does seem hopeful, is there any Daemon love?

Dark Archive

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

Erratic Malefactor seems to me to be mostly trait for CE characters, but you should check out guide for yourself when downloads work better since I just skimmed the guide.

It does mention augur kytons and cacodaemons as good choices for improved familiar though. Still, pdf talks most about devils, then demons, rest of fiends aren't much mentioned.

Silver Crusade

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Oh well, I will.

Many thankies Corvus for letting us know about them :3


No arcane caster evil iconic? Bizarre.


Slithery D wrote:
No arcane caster evil iconic? Bizarre.

I believe a dhampir necromancer was mentioned.


Acolyte of Mushu wrote:
I believe a dhampir necromancer was mentioned.

Indeed. Nyctessa, a dhampir necromancer from Geb. Daughter of a blood lord.


Doh, thanks. I'll never get used to seeing wizards described by their specialization like it's an actual class rather than Wizard (Necromancer).


How long does the alignment shift effect from Amoral Mercenary last? For the rest of the day?


I'm having a small issue downloading the pdf. Apparently once I get it into my downloads and click on the link, it just says this...

Personalizing... Click link again in 10 seconds to download

So far I've been clicking on the link and nothing happens. :(

Contributor

Duskblade wrote:

I'm having a small issue downloading the pdf. Apparently once I get it into my downloads and click on the link, it just says this...

Personalizing... Click link again in 10 seconds to download

So far I've been clicking on the link and nothing happens. :(

I was having that issue myself. I was download it using the download tab on this product page.


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Just keep clicking away, and it WILL eventually happen. The Humble Bundle is slowing it down for everybody.


The incredibly successful Humble Bundle charity Paizo's currently doing is slowing things down quite a bit as thousands of donators are downloading their PDFs. That and the general release of this month's Pathfinder products.

So be patient. :)


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Not sure if best place to ask this question, but why does Paizo require free products to go through personalization/DMR? Seems this would free up the server load some if yall just made it not have to go through that process.


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My guess, it's easier and maybe cheaper to mark them all, rather then most.

I'm not an expert tho. :-)


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Good to see some free... evilness. ;)


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captain yesterday wrote:

My guess, it's easier and maybe cheaper to mark them all, rather then most.

I'm not an expert tho. :-)

They have other items that are not marked. For example, when you download chronicle sheets for the sanctioned AP's.


Using Chrome here, and I still can't download the player's guide :(

Paizo Employee Senior Developer

Armenius wrote:
How long does the alignment shift effect from Amoral Mercenary last? For the rest of the day?

It lasts for the duration of the effect targeting the character, which pretty much means 1 round.

As an example, someone targets you with a spell like holy smite; as an immediate action, you trigger this ability to shift your alignment; you suffer the effects of the spell as if you were neutral; the spell ends, and the alignment shift ends.

It works similarly for smite good: a paladin targets you with smite; you shift your alignment as an immediate action; the smite fails; both the smite and the alignment shift end. The paladin can still target you with a new smite good the next round, but his original smite is used up.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

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Duncan7291 wrote:
Not sure if best place to ask this question, but why does Paizo require free products to go through personalization/DMR? Seems this would free up the server load some if yall just made it not have to go through that process.

There's a difference between "free" and "freely redistributable." Generally, the non-watermarked items we offer are things that we allow others to redistribute of under our Community Use Policy. We don't want people redistributing Player's Guides—we want everyone to come to paizo.com for them. This helps us in that it gives us more accurate data about the number of people downloading them, and it helps downloaders in that it gives us the ability to notify them if we update the document for any reason.


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Wait... did I miss something or is Stabby Bob, the Iconic Anti-Paladin from the Advanced Player's Guide NOT the iconic Anti-Paladin presented here? In such a case, I am dearly sorry Paizo, but this simply cannot stand. You see, Stabby Bob is somewhat of a legend; perhaps the single most needlessly evil character you have ever published. This, in addition to being a staple and a masked enigma for years, makes him infinitely more deserving than any other to represent his class. Unless, of course, His Stabbiness need not concern himself with the affairs of such irrelevant psuedo-iconics as the ones in this adventure path, as he is, in such a case, if not a true iconic, clearly their nemesis. This is consistent with past portrayals, as previous artwork has displayed his ability at road sign writing to be more than sufficient to defeat the iconic paladin, as well as his ability at steel-toed boot kicking to be more than sufficient to defeat the iconic pig.


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Vic Wertz wrote:
Duncan7291 wrote:
Not sure if best place to ask this question, but why does Paizo require free products to go through personalization/DMR? Seems this would free up the server load some if yall just made it not have to go through that process.
There's a difference between "free" and "freely redistributable." Generally, the non-watermarked items we offer are things that we allow others to redistribute of under our Community Use Policy. We don't want people redistributing Player's Guides—we want everyone to come to paizo.com for them. This helps us in that it gives us more accurate data about the number of people downloading them, and it helps downloaders in that it gives us the ability to notify them if we update the document for any reason.

Thanks Vic for info. I'll look at guide later as I've got an inch thick of paper to prep for Con next week. PFS weekend homework ;).


Oudynfury, Stabby Bob is clearly far too powerful to be included in a non-Mythic game.


Also Stabby Bob is probably going to get his own Adventure Path. :p ;)


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Slithery D wrote:
Doh, thanks. I'll never get used to seeing wizards described by their specialization like it's an actual class rather than Wizard (Necromancer).

Understandable, it's only been done like this for about fifteen years.


Congrats on Paizo for including the Sensitive Material section (p.10). "How indulgently sadistic can I be? I don't want to squick anybody." is very important to ask.

It's also not a rhetorical one. What is your comfort level?

Liberty's Edge

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Zaister wrote:
Slithery D wrote:
Doh, thanks. I'll never get used to seeing wizards described by their specialization like it's an actual class rather than Wizard (Necromancer).
Understandable, it's only been done like this for about fifteen years.

Exactly! These kids today with their newfangled naming conventions!

Liberty's Edge

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AlgaeNymph wrote:

Congrats on Paizo for including the Sensitive Material section (p.10). "How indulgently sadistic can I be? I don't want to squick anybody." is very important to ask.

It's also not a rhetorical one. What is your comfort level?

Nice to know the designers understood that this Adventure path might cause some small measure of discomfort for those playing it. Some people don't want to be monsterously evil psychopaths, while others want to indulge in their depraved and sadistic fantasies (like utterly destroying a Paladins mind through physical and mental torture, simply for the kicks).

My evil setting is genrally quite low, though I don't mind going to a dark place every once in a while if my character is likely to go too such a place. Gwendolyn isn't a truely heartless person, but she does have her moments of crazy, sadist, torturous, potentially canabalistic, morally barren Antipaladin goodness.

I hope I get to use her at some point. And her psycho-monsterous Girl friend.

Agents of evil, you are a gem.

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber
AlgaeNymph wrote:

Congrats on Paizo for including the Sensitive Material section (p.10). "How indulgently sadistic can I be? I don't want to squick anybody." is very important to ask.

It's also not a rhetorical one. What is your comfort level?

Dead puppies.

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Gorbacz wrote:
Dead puppies.

I hear they aren't much fun...


Kalindlara wrote:
Gorbacz wrote:
Dead puppies.
I hear they aren't much fun...

Unless you're a necromancer...

;p

Carry on!

--C.


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AlgaeNymph wrote:

Congrats on Paizo for including the Sensitive Material section (p.10). "How indulgently sadistic can I be? I don't want to squick anybody." is very important to ask.

It's also not a rhetorical one. What is your comfort level?

We had this conversation back when I first started running Way of the Wicked. It's an obvious question to ask in this type of campaign, but I actually think it's a healthy question to ask in any game.


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Why a 13 point buy on the pregenerated human spell-casting villains (cleric, inquisitor) when the non-humans and human fighter got 15 point buys? (I was assuming their floating +2 to a stat was put in their highest stat when checking the point buys).

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