paizo.com Recent Posts in New Paths 8: The Trickster (PFRPG) PDF Discussionpaizo.com Recent Posts in New Paths 8: The Trickster (PFRPG) PDF Discussion2016-09-17T01:38:49Z2016-09-17T01:38:49ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: New Paths 8: The Trickster (PFRPG) PDFMarc Radlehttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9jj3/discuss&page=3?New-Paths-8-The-Trickster#1452016-09-24T14:06:35Z2016-09-18T16:09:37Z<p>Thank you End!!!
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And thanks to everyone that suggested splitting the archetype in two - I think it was the right call!</p>Thank you End!!!
And thanks to everyone that suggested splitting the archetype in two - I think it was the right call!Marc Radle2016-09-18T16:09:37ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: New Paths 8: The Trickster (PFRPG) PDFEndzeitgeisthttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9jj3/discuss&page=3?New-Paths-8-The-Trickster#1442016-09-17T12:52:00Z2016-09-17T12:52:00Z<p>Updated my review everywhere to reflect the changes made.</p>Updated my review everywhere to reflect the changes made.Endzeitgeist2016-09-17T12:52:00ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: New Paths 8: The Trickster (PFRPG) PDFDungeonmasterCalhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9jj3/discuss&page=3?New-Paths-8-The-Trickster#1432016-09-15T02:42:06Z2016-09-15T02:42:06Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Marc Radle wrote:</div><blockquote> Thanks DungeonmasterCal - really glad you like the changes!!! </blockquote><p>Anytime!Marc Radle wrote:Thanks DungeonmasterCal - really glad you like the changes!!!
Anytime!DungeonmasterCal2016-09-15T02:42:06ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: New Paths 8: The Trickster (PFRPG) PDFMarc Radlehttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9jj3/discuss&page=3?New-Paths-8-The-Trickster#1422016-09-15T02:28:47Z2016-09-15T02:28:47Z<p>Thanks DungeonmasterCal - really glad you like the changes!!!</p>Thanks DungeonmasterCal - really glad you like the changes!!!Marc Radle2016-09-15T02:28:47ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: New Paths 8: The Trickster (PFRPG) PDFDungeonmasterCalhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9jj3/discuss&page=3?New-Paths-8-The-Trickster#1412016-09-14T19:46:43Z2016-09-14T19:46:43Z<p>Just reviewed the revised Trickster. Please go and take a look at it and some of the changes that have been made. Thanks!</p>
<p>DMCal</p>Just reviewed the revised Trickster. Please go and take a look at it and some of the changes that have been made. Thanks!
DMCalDungeonmasterCal2016-09-14T19:46:43ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: New Paths 8: The Trickster (PFRPG) PDFMarc Radlehttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9jj3/discuss&page=3?New-Paths-8-The-Trickster#1402016-09-14T13:58:21Z2016-09-14T13:58:21Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Wolfgang Baur wrote:</div><blockquote> We can't update the description ourselves, sadly, but perhaps a Paizo gninja can? </blockquote><p>A missive via raven has been sent!Wolfgang Baur wrote:We can't update the description ourselves, sadly, but perhaps a Paizo gninja can?
A missive via raven has been sent!Marc Radle2016-09-14T13:58:21ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: New Paths 8: The Trickster (PFRPG) PDFMarc Radlehttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9jj3/discuss&page=3?New-Paths-8-The-Trickster#1392016-09-14T00:47:50Z2016-09-14T00:47:50Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Marc Radle wrote:</div><blockquote> Oh, be on the lookout for a NEW New Paths class very soon ... it's sure to be <i>divinely</i> awesome ... :) </blockquote><p>Well, that be <i>divinely</i> awesome class I hinted at ... it's out sooner than I anticipated!
<p>I'd like to present the just released <a href="http://paizo.com/products/btpy9ose/discuss?New-Paths-9-The-Priest#tabs" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><b>New Paths 9: The Priest</b></a> from Kobold Press!</p>
<p>Features things like:
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<ul><li>Access to more domains and the ability to cast more than one domain spell
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<li>Full divine (cleric/oracle) spell casting using a unique casting mechanic
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<li>More domains and can cast either 1 or 2 bonus domain spells per
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<li>Divine Gift class ability which allows the priest to perform various divine acts at a moments notice
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<li>Improved Channeling
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<li>Sacred Bond
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<li>New feats (including Powerful Channel)
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<li>A new archetype: Chosen of Nature
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<li>... and more</ul></p>
<p>Please check it out! :)</p>Marc Radle wrote:Oh, be on the lookout for a NEW New Paths class very soon ... it's sure to be divinely awesome ... :)
Well, that be divinely awesome class I hinted at ... it's out sooner than I anticipated! I'd like to present the just released New Paths 9: The Priest from Kobold Press!
Features things like:
Access to more domains and the ability to cast more than one domain spell
Full divine (cleric/oracle) spell casting using a unique casting mechanic
More domains and can cast either 1...Marc Radle2016-09-14T00:47:50ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: New Paths 8: The Trickster (PFRPG) PDFWolfgang Baur (Kobold Press)https://paizo.com/products/btpy9jj3/discuss&page=3?New-Paths-8-The-Trickster#1382016-09-13T17:13:17Z2016-09-13T17:13:17Z<p>We can't update the description ourselves, sadly, but perhaps a Paizo gninja can?</p>We can't update the description ourselves, sadly, but perhaps a Paizo gninja can?Wolfgang Baur (Kobold Press)2016-09-13T17:13:17ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: New Paths 8: The Trickster (PFRPG) PDFMarc Radlehttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9jj3/discuss&page=3?New-Paths-8-The-Trickster#1372016-09-13T15:25:33Z2016-09-13T15:25:33Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Isuru wrote:</div><blockquote> Might want to update the product description. </blockquote><p>That's a very good point!Isuru wrote:Might want to update the product description.
That's a very good point!Marc Radle2016-09-13T15:25:33ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: New Paths 8: The Trickster (PFRPG) PDFIsuruhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9jj3/discuss&page=3?New-Paths-8-The-Trickster#1362016-09-13T05:10:25Z2016-09-13T05:10:25Z<p>Might want to update the product description.</p>Might want to update the product description.Isuru2016-09-13T05:10:25ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: New Paths 8: The Trickster (PFRPG) PDFDungeonmasterCalhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9jj3/discuss&page=3?New-Paths-8-The-Trickster#1352016-09-13T02:31:31Z2016-09-13T02:31:31Z<p>Shivers with antici....well, you know the rest.</p>Shivers with antici....well, you know the rest.DungeonmasterCal2016-09-13T02:31:31ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: New Paths 8: The Trickster (PFRPG) PDFMarc Radlehttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9jj3/discuss&page=3?New-Paths-8-The-Trickster#1342016-09-13T02:28:04Z2016-09-13T02:28:04Z<p>Probably should have also said that the revised file has been sent here to the Paizo folks, but I'm not sure if it has been updated in their system/workflow.</p>
<p>If it hasn't yet, it should be soon :)</p>Probably should have also said that the revised file has been sent here to the Paizo folks, but I'm not sure if it has been updated in their system/workflow.
If it hasn't yet, it should be soon :)Marc Radle2016-09-13T02:28:04ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: New Paths 8: The Trickster (PFRPG) PDFMarc Radlehttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9jj3/discuss&page=3?New-Paths-8-The-Trickster#1332016-09-13T14:21:34Z2016-09-12T13:09:51Z<p>Hey everyone!</p>
<p>A number of folks felt that the archetype should really have been two separate archetypes, and after much consideration, I decided I agreed. So, we have released one final revision to the Trickster today that does exactly that!</p>
<p><b>Changes</b>:
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<ul><li>Archetype was split in to two separate (and mutually exclusive) archetypes: Dual-Forte Trickster and Forte Master Trickster
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<li>Shadow forte made a bit more interesting, flavorful and unique - shadow trickster can now animate and flank with his own shadow!</ul></p>
<p>Hope everyone like it!</p>
<p>Oh, be on the lookout for a NEW New Paths class very soon ... it's sure to be <i>divinely</i> awesome ... :)</p>Hey everyone!
A number of folks felt that the archetype should really have been two separate archetypes, and after much consideration, I decided I agreed. So, we have released one final revision to the Trickster today that does exactly that!
Changes:
Archetype was split in to two separate (and mutually exclusive) archetypes: Dual-Forte Trickster and Forte Master Trickster
Shadow forte made a bit more interesting, flavorful and unique - shadow trickster can now animate and flank with his own...Marc Radle2016-09-12T13:09:51ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: New Paths 8: The Trickster (PFRPG) PDFWolfgang Baur (Kobold Press)https://paizo.com/products/btpy9jj3/discuss&page=3?New-Paths-8-The-Trickster#1322016-07-06T05:13:53Z2016-07-05T19:41:55Z<p>Agree with Marc, I really appreciate a reviewer updating a review.</p>Agree with Marc, I really appreciate a reviewer updating a review.Wolfgang Baur (Kobold Press)2016-07-05T19:41:55ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: New Paths 8: The Trickster (PFRPG) PDFMarc Radlehttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9jj3/discuss&page=3?New-Paths-8-The-Trickster#1312016-07-05T16:26:31Z2016-07-05T13:54:45Z<p>Thanks so much Endzeitgeist and The Raven Black for taking the time to update your reviews based on the revised file!</p>Thanks so much Endzeitgeist and The Raven Black for taking the time to update your reviews based on the revised file!Marc Radle2016-07-05T13:54:45ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: New Paths 8: The Trickster (PFRPG) PDFEndzeitgeisthttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9jj3/discuss&page=3?New-Paths-8-The-Trickster#1302016-07-05T19:41:15Z2016-07-04T15:22:32Z<p>Revised my review in all the usual places. Feel like a prick for it, but there you go. As a person, I like it less now than before, with the dual forte archetype being imho utterly broken. :/ Didn't penalize it further due to the GREAT revision of the Acrobatics forte and the fact that the update is free. So sorry I couldn't upgrade this to +seal status...I really hoped I could. :(</p>Revised my review in all the usual places. Feel like a prick for it, but there you go. As a person, I like it less now than before, with the dual forte archetype being imho utterly broken. :/ Didn't penalize it further due to the GREAT revision of the Acrobatics forte and the fact that the update is free. So sorry I couldn't upgrade this to +seal status...I really hoped I could. :(Endzeitgeist2016-07-04T15:22:32ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: New Paths 8: The Trickster (PFRPG) PDFThe Raven Blackhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9jj3/discuss&page=3?New-Paths-8-The-Trickster#1292016-07-04T11:16:58Z2016-07-04T11:16:58Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Marc Radle wrote:</div><blockquote> Interesting! Looking forward to it! </blockquote><p>Done.
<p>5th star is entirely deserved. I am really looking forward to your next class design.</p>
<p>Thank you for being such a great guy (as well as great designer).</p>Marc Radle wrote:Interesting! Looking forward to it!
Done. 5th star is entirely deserved. I am really looking forward to your next class design.
Thank you for being such a great guy (as well as great designer).The Raven Black2016-07-04T11:16:58ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: New Paths 8: The Trickster (PFRPG) PDFMarc Radlehttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9jj3/discuss&page=3?New-Paths-8-The-Trickster#1282016-07-04T05:06:41Z2016-07-01T17:46:44Z<p>Interesting! Looking forward to it!</p>Interesting! Looking forward to it!Marc Radle2016-07-01T17:46:44ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: New Paths 8: The Trickster (PFRPG) PDFThe Raven Blackhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9jj3/discuss&page=3?New-Paths-8-The-Trickster#1272016-07-01T13:11:28Z2016-07-01T13:11:28Z<p>Working on my revised Review. Rating goes to 5 stars though not for the reasons I first thought it would...</p>Working on my revised Review. Rating goes to 5 stars though not for the reasons I first thought it would...The Raven Black2016-07-01T13:11:28ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: New Paths 8: The Trickster (PFRPG) PDFMarc Radlehttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9jj3/discuss&page=3?New-Paths-8-The-Trickster#1262016-07-01T17:18:27Z2016-07-01T13:05:31Z<p>Reposted from a different thread, but relevant here as well :)
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<div class="messageboard-quotee">DungeonmasterCal wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Ok, here's my take on the Revised Trickster. I even edited my original review with the following text.</p>
<p>The Trickster (Revised)</p>
<p>Ok, at first glance I didn't care for it that much (but I was on painkillers for a bad knee at the moment). I've had a chance to read it over again and I like pretty much everything they've done, with the exception of cutting back Skill Points to 4 per level. I love Skills and having my players use them, so I'll probably house rule it that they still get 6. The new Shadow Forte is a good addition, and the Dual Forte Archetype is a nice addition.</p>
<p>Changing the magic schools to exclude Evocation and Necromancy is something I'm on the fence about. I personally think the Trickster should be able to choose which two schools he excludes himself, but it's a minor quibble and one I'm sure won't be shared by everyone who uses the revised version.</p>
<p>Overall I like the revisions, and it may be the one I offer any players who might like to give the class a try. And like I said, I like skilly characters, so I may keep the 6 per level option from the original version. Good job Marc and Kobold Press! </blockquote><p>Hey there DungeonmasterCal, thanks for the comments on the revised Trickster - glad you liked it! :)
<p>Personally, I'm with you regarding the skill points, but I decided that enough people felt 4 skill points per level was more appropriate that I decided to acquiesce, knowing that houseruling back up to 6 skill points per level is super simple if so desired.</p>
<p>Really glad you liked the new Shadow Forte and Dual Forte Archetype! I'm really happy with how both turned out!</p>
<p>Regarding the sidebar detailing the exclusion of the Evocation and Necromancy schools from the Trickster's spell list, keep in mind that's a variant only. The core class still gets access to all the schools, I just wanted to respect and acknowledge those folks who were uncomfortable with the Trickster having the full wizard spell list, so I offered this lower-power variant.</p>
<p>Again, really glad you like the revisions!</p>Reposted from a different thread, but relevant here as well :)
DungeonmasterCal wrote: Ok, here's my take on the Revised Trickster. I even edited my original review with the following text.
The Trickster (Revised)
Ok, at first glance I didn't care for it that much (but I was on painkillers for a bad knee at the moment). I've had a chance to read it over again and I like pretty much everything they've done, with the exception of cutting back Skill Points to 4 per level. I love Skills and...Marc Radle2016-07-01T13:05:31ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: New Paths 8: The Trickster (PFRPG) PDFMarc Radlehttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9jj3/discuss&page=3?New-Paths-8-The-Trickster#1252016-06-23T19:38:37Z2016-06-23T19:38:37Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Iceman1077 wrote:</div><blockquote> Really like the new update, especially the shadow forte ... </blockquote><p>Thanks Iceman1077 - awesome to hear you like the update!Iceman1077 wrote:Really like the new update, especially the shadow forte ...
Thanks Iceman1077 - awesome to hear you like the update!Marc Radle2016-06-23T19:38:37ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: New Paths 8: The Trickster (PFRPG) PDFIceman1077https://paizo.com/products/btpy9jj3/discuss&page=3?New-Paths-8-The-Trickster#1242016-06-23T08:57:00Z2016-06-23T08:57:00Z<p>Really like the new update, especially the shadow forte (needs the ability to move stealthily at full speed though). I would love to see a sniping forte. </p>
<p>As for the Improved Forte ability of the Dual-Forte Trickster, I really wish those abilities had been included as part of the original Fortes. That way the new ability that helps set the Trickster apart would scale thru the entire class, and not end halfway thru the class.</p>Really like the new update, especially the shadow forte (needs the ability to move stealthily at full speed though). I would love to see a sniping forte.
As for the Improved Forte ability of the Dual-Forte Trickster, I really wish those abilities had been included as part of the original Fortes. That way the new ability that helps set the Trickster apart would scale thru the entire class, and not end halfway thru the class.Iceman10772016-06-23T08:57:00ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: New Paths 8: The Trickster (PFRPG) PDFOceanshieldwolfhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9jj3/discuss&page=3?New-Paths-8-The-Trickster#1232016-06-23T02:00:43Z2016-06-23T02:00:43Z<p>Sounds good Marc, particularly adding stuff to Acrobatics and adding a whole new Forte!</p>Sounds good Marc, particularly adding stuff to Acrobatics and adding a whole new Forte!Oceanshieldwolf2016-06-23T02:00:43ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: New Paths 8: The Trickster (PFRPG) PDFMarc Radlehttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9jj3/discuss&page=3?New-Paths-8-The-Trickster#1222016-06-23T21:10:45Z2016-06-23T00:11:42Z<p>Hey everyone! An updated <b>New Paths 8: The Trickster</b> has just been distributed to all the normal channels. </p>
<p><b>Main updates include:</b></p>
<p><ul><li>Skill Ranks per Level reduced to 4 + Int modifier
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<li>Added a sidebar called "Trickster Spells and Balance" which offers a lower-power variant to the standard trickster spellcasting class feature
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<li>Added a new forte (<i>Shadow</i>)
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<li>Beefed up the Acrobat forte (added more magic abilities and synergies)
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<li>Added an archetype: Dual-Forte Trickster </ul></p>Hey everyone! An updated New Paths 8: The Trickster has just been distributed to all the normal channels.
Main updates include:
Skill Ranks per Level reduced to 4 + Int modifier
Added a sidebar called "Trickster Spells and Balance" which offers a lower-power variant to the standard trickster spellcasting class feature
Added a new forte (Shadow)
Beefed up the Acrobat forte (added more magic abilities and synergies)
Added an archetype: Dual-Forte TricksterMarc Radle2016-06-23T00:11:42ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: New Paths 8: The Trickster (PFRPG) PDFMarc Radlehttps://paizo.com/products/btpy9jj3/discuss&page=3?New-Paths-8-The-Trickster#1212016-07-05T20:55:06Z2016-05-31T14:58:21Z<p>Thank you for the review Raven Black! Extremely well-reasoned and considered indeed! Very happy to see you liked the class</p>
<p>You bring up some interesting points that are certainly worth considering. In fact, I'm about to start playing in a new campaign (Hell's Rebels) - I think I might make a few tweaks to the class and then playtest them in this new campaign to see how they work out ...</p>
<p>Stay tuned!</p>Thank you for the review Raven Black! Extremely well-reasoned and considered indeed! Very happy to see you liked the class
You bring up some interesting points that are certainly worth considering. In fact, I'm about to start playing in a new campaign (Hell's Rebels) - I think I might make a few tweaks to the class and then playtest them in this new campaign to see how they work out ...
Stay tuned!Marc Radle2016-05-31T14:58:21Z