Pathfinder Player Companion: Legacy of Dragons (PFRPG)

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The Power of Dragons Is Yours

Few creatures inspire greater awe than dragons, and Pathfinder Player Companion: Legacy of Dragons dives into the ripples left in these mighty creatures' wake. Whether they help or harm, dragons make a lasting impression, from the legends and philosophies they inspire to the bloodlines they foster.

Inside this book you'll find:

  • New archetypes ranging from the dragonheir scion to the wyrmwitch, allowing players to access draconic appearances as well as lore, powers, and spells.
  • Ways for characters to enlist drakes and lesser dragons to serve as allies, improved familiars, and even flying mounts.
  • New draconic bloodlines for bloodragers and sorcerers, allowing eldritch abilities based on esoteric, imperial, outer, and primal dragons.

This Pathfinder Player Companion is intended for use with the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, but can be easily incorporated into any fantasy world.

ISBN-13: 978-1-60125-853-3

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Packed with good options for your use

5/5

I enjoyed this book (I got the print edition). It offers good options for use for a player with a dragon bloodline. And I don't mean just the sorcerer bloodlines, although they are in there too. There are options and archetypes for your use. Well worth the price.


Fluff good, not much else is.

2/5

I wanted to like this book. I really, really, really did. The fluff is great, and the 'premise' of the archetypes and drakes are nice.

But.

Both the archetypes, and the drake companions themselves, have some of the worst balancing I have seen in pathfinder. An example of this is the druid, who replaces an animal companion with a drake companion. The drake is actually weaker then alot of normal animal companion choices, and to take the archetype actually removes six of his core abilities just for the drake part of the archetype, never mind the additional abilities changed for the other parts of the archetype.

I really hope at some point paizo revisits the idea of these drake archetypes and companions and does a tremendous re-balancing, as many of these archetypes feel almost unplayable with how bad they can gimp a character.


The new Dragon-themed options are BAD

1/5

I picked up this book excited to create my new "Dragon" themed character and all the options were very weak. Also, throughout the book there were sentences repeated over and over again. I waited months for this issue and I'm completely disappointed. It's the worst Player Companion I've ever read.


Some bad, some good. Sorta meh

2/5

This book has a few good ideas and some great flavor text.

It falls short on the mechanics side though, especially with the archetypes that involve drakes. The cavalier archetype that gets a drake is the worst, and is so bad, I think the writer(s) who made it have never played a cavalier before, it just guts the class.

There are some glaring typos in the book, like a certain fighter archetype replacing a bonus feat at a level that the fighter does not get a bonus feat on.

This book could have been, dare I say SHOULD have been, so much more.


Great Flavor, Great Options

5/5

While I usually like some sections of the player companion line, I very rarely like all of them. This is the rare exception. Excellent character options, monsters, and spells throughout.


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Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:
Dragon78 wrote:

I hope kineticist, swashbuckler, monk/UC monk, rogue/UC rogue, hunter, summoner, and druid get archetypes

I hope there will be a dragon mystery for oracles.

It is, at this point, impossible to fit in archetypes for all the Pathfinder classes into a Player Companion, or at least it is if we put *anything* else in. So some of the classes you mention get archetypes, but certainly not all of them

Some of the classes that don't get archetypes get other class-specific or class-focused new rules elements.

And there are some options available to any class.

I'm really happy with what we've done, but it's just not possible to cover everyone's list of 8 preferred classes.

That's fine. Just make sure that you cover my eight favorite classes. ;)


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I'm more curious to see what 'draconic appearances' might entail, and if it will be allowed in PFS play...


Yay, options for everyone.

Also hope for some dragon themed feats.

Shadow Lodge

anyone know if there has been talk of some draconic medium spirits appearing in this one? I have a player interested to know.


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doc the grey wrote:
anyone know if there has been talk of some draconic medium spirits appearing in this one? I have a player interested to know.

No draconic smalls, larges, or SuperSizes?


Dragon themed medium and spiritualist options would be interesting.


Wei Ji the Learner wrote:
doc the grey wrote:
anyone know if there has been talk of some draconic medium spirits appearing in this one? I have a player interested to know.
No draconic smalls, larges, or SuperSizes?

You're killing me Smalls!

While we are on pet projects; any draconic spells/masterpieces for the Bard?


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Fourshadow wrote:

While we are on pet projects; any draconic spells/masterpieces for the Bard?

FUS RO DAH??

Shadow Lodge

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Dragon78 wrote:
Dragon themed medium and spiritualist options would be interesting.

Yeah, I'd totally be down for a medium who can channel some Smaug and breath concrete melting fire on some shit.


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Hmm, a Medium archetype that channels the power of monsters would be interesting. Maybe something like Genie or Lich for Archmage, Archon or Troll for Champion, Golem or Treant for Guardian, Angel or Unicorn for Hierophant, Dragon or Ghost for Marshal, and Fey or Succubus for Trickster?


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I really hope this book sells well so we can get a fey version. Also ones themed on giants, magical beast, elementals, aberrations, aliens, undead, and nature(animals, plants, and vermin) would be cool.


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*thinks we need more linnorm archetypes*


I'm buying this because I'm going to be using it for game design purposes. Yeah!!!

Scarab Sages Developer, Starfinder Team

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Thomas Seitz wrote:
*thinks we need more linnorm archetypes*

No promises on linnorm archetypes.

The word "linnorm" appears 25 times in the book (not counting the 2 times we say "Land of the Linnorm Kings") , and 3 of those are in the Rules Index.

You may or may not be happy with the final result. I love what we did, but obviously with 32 pages we could only do so much. :)


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25 times, well that is at least 25 times more then the word nixie has been used in any book.

Shadow Lodge

Luthorne wrote:
Hmm, a Medium archetype that channels the power of monsters would be interesting. Maybe something like Genie or Lich for Archmage, Archon or Troll for Champion, Golem or Treant for Guardian, Angel or Unicorn for Hierophant, Dragon or Ghost for Marshal, and Fey or Succubus for Trickster?

I'd rather it be just an option rather than locked to an archetype. As it stands the spirit ability of mediums is already pretty modular and well balanced against itself since you can't really stack them or benefit from more than one a day. The minute you start limiting the list we run the risk of optimizing out other options that don't stack up or people just never using one option outright. Besides, I'm more down to see mediums who can sit on the throne of a king for his political acumen one day, the cave of a great dragon to fly and spew fire the next, and then on the grave of a vampire lord in Geb at last to gain his deathly sustenances that next Tuesday. Also it lets me as a GM surprise a little more with what might show up at a locus point ^-^.


Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:


No promises on linnorm archetypes.

The word "linnorm" appears 25 times in the book (not counting the 2 times we say "Land of the Linnorm Kings") , and 3 of those are in the Rules Index.

You may or may not be happy with the final result. I love what we did, but obviously with 32 pages we could only do so much. :)

So far the fact it appears 25 times is a good sign in my book Mister Stephens.

Silver Crusade

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Thomas Seitz wrote:
Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:


No promises on linnorm archetypes.

The word "linnorm" appears 25 times in the book (not counting the 2 times we say "Land of the Linnorm Kings") , and 3 of those are in the Rules Index.

You may or may not be happy with the final result. I love what we did, but obviously with 32 pages we could only do so much. :)

So far the fact it appears 25 times is a good sign in my book Mister Stephens.

I concur.


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Are these full on new sorcerer bloodlines or they alternate versions of the existing ones like the bloodline mutations from UM?


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Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:
Thomas Seitz wrote:
*thinks we need more linnorm archetypes*

No promises on linnorm archetypes.

The word "linnorm" appears 25 times in the book (not counting the 2 times we say "Land of the Linnorm Kings") , and 3 of those are in the Rules Index.

You may or may not be happy with the final result. I love what we did, but obviously with 32 pages we could only do so much. :)

Owen, I pre-ordered a copy. So, I am going to get some use out of it. Fans of skin-shedding linnorms who turn into people asside, I'm looking for material that can help me bolster the dragon-wrought houses in my campaign.

I'm not expecting a lot, just some help with the topic. So what it's worth, my pre-order is my way of saying thank you.


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... so I'm reading this correctly right? We're gonna get dragon mounts. You're not just playing tricks on me are you because if you are Owen I'll never forgive you.


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Are they dragon mounts as class features or rules for hiring/bribing them to be mounts?


Dragon78 wrote:
Are they dragon mounts as class features or rules for hiring/bribing them to be mounts?

Latter. I hope.

Silver Crusade

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EltonJ wrote:
Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:
Thomas Seitz wrote:
*thinks we need more linnorm archetypes*

No promises on linnorm archetypes.

The word "linnorm" appears 25 times in the book (not counting the 2 times we say "Land of the Linnorm Kings") , and 3 of those are in the Rules Index.

You may or may not be happy with the final result. I love what we did, but obviously with 32 pages we could only do so much. :)

Owen, I pre-ordered a copy. So, I am going to get some use out of it. Fans of skin-shedding linnorms who turn into people asside, I'm looking for material that can help me bolster the dragon-wrought houses in my campaign.

I'm not expecting a lot, just some help with the topic. So what it's worth, my pre-order is my way of saying thank you.

Ooooh, I wouldn't mind if Paizo did their take on the skin shedding Linnorm legend.


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Rysky wrote:
EltonJ wrote:
Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:
Thomas Seitz wrote:
*thinks we need more linnorm archetypes*

No promises on linnorm archetypes.

The word "linnorm" appears 25 times in the book (not counting the 2 times we say "Land of the Linnorm Kings") , and 3 of those are in the Rules Index.

You may or may not be happy with the final result. I love what we did, but obviously with 32 pages we could only do so much. :)

Owen, I pre-ordered a copy. So, I am going to get some use out of it. Fans of skin-shedding linnorms who turn into people asside, I'm looking for material that can help me bolster the dragon-wrought houses in my campaign.

I'm not expecting a lot, just some help with the topic. So what it's worth, my pre-order is my way of saying thank you.

Ooooh, I wouldn't mind if Paizo did their take on the skin shedding Linnorm legend.

It would be awesome, don't you think?

Silver Crusade

EltonJ wrote:
Rysky wrote:
EltonJ wrote:
Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:
Thomas Seitz wrote:
*thinks we need more linnorm archetypes*

No promises on linnorm archetypes.

The word "linnorm" appears 25 times in the book (not counting the 2 times we say "Land of the Linnorm Kings") , and 3 of those are in the Rules Index.

You may or may not be happy with the final result. I love what we did, but obviously with 32 pages we could only do so much. :)

Owen, I pre-ordered a copy. So, I am going to get some use out of it. Fans of skin-shedding linnorms who turn into people asside, I'm looking for material that can help me bolster the dragon-wrought houses in my campaign.

I'm not expecting a lot, just some help with the topic. So what it's worth, my pre-order is my way of saying thank you.

Ooooh, I wouldn't mind if Paizo did their take on the skin shedding Linnorm legend.
It would be awesome, don't you think?

Yus.

Scarab Sages Developer, Starfinder Team

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FedoraFerret wrote:
... so I'm reading this correctly right? We're gonna get dragon mounts. You're not just playing tricks on me are you because if you are Owen I'll never forgive you.

"drakes and lesser dragons to serve as... " "flying mounts."

Yes, there is really an option for drakes and/or lesser dragons, that can result in having one as a flying mount.
But obviously, it's not just bolting flying dragons onto any character of any level. :)

I hope you all like what we've done once the book it out.


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Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:
FedoraFerret wrote:
... so I'm reading this correctly right? We're gonna get dragon mounts. You're not just playing tricks on me are you because if you are Owen I'll never forgive you.

"drakes and lesser dragons to serve as... " "flying mounts."

Yes, there is really an option for drakes and/or lesser dragons, that can result in having one as a flying mount.
But obviously, it's not just bolting flying dragons onto any character of any level. :)

I hope you all like what we've done once the book it out.

*sadly puts bolt gun away*


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I hope I like it as well:)


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Rysky wrote:
EltonJ wrote:
Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:
Thomas Seitz wrote:
*thinks we need more linnorm archetypes*

No promises on linnorm archetypes.

The word "linnorm" appears 25 times in the book (not counting the 2 times we say "Land of the Linnorm Kings") , and 3 of those are in the Rules Index.

You may or may not be happy with the final result. I love what we did, but obviously with 32 pages we could only do so much. :)

Owen, I pre-ordered a copy. So, I am going to get some use out of it. Fans of skin-shedding linnorms who turn into people asside, I'm looking for material that can help me bolster the dragon-wrought houses in my campaign.

I'm not expecting a lot, just some help with the topic. So what it's worth, my pre-order is my way of saying thank you.

Ooooh, I wouldn't mind if Paizo did their take on the skin shedding Linnorm legend.

What about linnorms that shed their human form to become linnorms?

Silver Crusade

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Thomas Seitz wrote:
Rysky wrote:
EltonJ wrote:
Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:
Thomas Seitz wrote:
*thinks we need more linnorm archetypes*

No promises on linnorm archetypes.

The word "linnorm" appears 25 times in the book (not counting the 2 times we say "Land of the Linnorm Kings") , and 3 of those are in the Rules Index.

You may or may not be happy with the final result. I love what we did, but obviously with 32 pages we could only do so much. :)

Owen, I pre-ordered a copy. So, I am going to get some use out of it. Fans of skin-shedding linnorms who turn into people asside, I'm looking for material that can help me bolster the dragon-wrought houses in my campaign.

I'm not expecting a lot, just some help with the topic. So what it's worth, my pre-order is my way of saying thank you.

Ooooh, I wouldn't mind if Paizo did their take on the skin shedding Linnorm legend.
What about linnorms that shed their human form to become linnorms?

Linnorm Disciple Prestige Class!!!

...

LINNORM CORRUPTION!!!!


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Exactly! :D


Thomas Seitz wrote:
Exactly! :D

Oh Dear . . .


What? I like scaring the crap of my players.

Combine Horror Adventures with this? Pretty awesome in my book.

Silver Crusade

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Mauahahahaha!


That wasn't what I was "Oh Dear"ing about. There are far more interesting dragons than Linnorms. Like the Surrush, or the Lambton Wyrm. Or perhaps just maybe your typical red dragon that likes to eat adventurers for lunch, even though the Dragon Surgeon General says that eating Adventurers is generally bad for his health.

And don't get me started on Teenaged dragons.

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