LizardMage |
Threeshades wrote:Will there be new dinosaurs in B5? If so, may i ask how many?There are four new dinosaurs
No kaiju (at this point, if/when we do more kaiju stuff... I really REALLY want to do it in a non-hardcover format so that we can actually use Golarion content; building the 3 kaiju in Bestiary 4 without being able to reference any world content was really difficult and disappointing and frustrating).
And only one deep one hybrid.
As for the difference between deep ones and things like gillmen and skum... that was something I tried hard to ensure was in there. Not all of my choices, alas, made it to print, but the deep ones remain a pretty interesting version that doesn't step on the toes of the skum or gillmen and, in fact, augments them pretty well.
Yes! Four new dinos! This made my day. I can only hope one is a Carnotaurus (no spoilers please).
Dragon78 |
Well were getting the Anunnaki as aliens and if they are reprinting the Lashunta and Triaxian then that would be two more aliens.
I don't know the non-campaign specific info for the Kaiju makes them feel more mysterious so I am fine with them being in hardcover bestiaries. Though it sad to hear that B5 will not have any Kaiju there are plenty of other things that will be in it.
ErisAcolyte-Chaos jester |
Really interested in seeing this come out.
Though minor question: what is an orang-pedak? Would is be similar to a humanoid, sentient orangatang, so you could have a figure like king Louee(not sure if spelt right but still) becoming a playable character.
Also the addition of expanded universal monster rules. What might that entail, just some minor hints might be nice to here about.
Kalindlara Contributor |
Really interested in seeing this come out.
Though minor question: what is an orang-pedak? Would is be similar to a humanoid, sentient orangatang, so you could have a figure like king Louee(not sure if spelt right but still) becoming a playable character.
Also the addition of expanded universal monster rules. What might that entail, just some minor hints might be nice to here about.
I'm assuming orang-pendaks are the "half-sasquatch race". ^_^
deinol |
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No kaiju (at this point, if/when we do more kaiju stuff... I really REALLY want to do it in a non-hardcover format so that we can actually use Golarion content; building the 3 kaiju in Bestiary 4 without being able to reference any world content was really difficult and disappointing and frustrating).
I would buy "Kaiju Unleashed" or "Kaiju Revisted" in the Campaign Setting line.
Luthorne |
Really interested in seeing this come out.
Though minor question: what is an orang-pedak? Would is be similar to a humanoid, sentient orangatang, so you could have a figure like king Louee(not sure if spelt right but still) becoming a playable character.
Also the addition of expanded universal monster rules. What might that entail, just some minor hints might be nice to here about.
It's this.
Milo v3 |
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Disappointed about the kaiju, sounds like there wont be another RPG-line one for a decent while, but I don't think I'd buy a Campaign-Line book just for one.
Anyone else a little sad that grays aren't a pc race? I love those little probing scamps. Also I just have such a great love of more pc races.
Nah, greys are meant to be Alien. Hard to have a race that's alien when players can select them as a race.
Still, you can play one as a player just using the monsters as PCs rules.
Berselius |
I would buy "Kaiju Unleashed" or "Kaiju Revisted" in the Campaign Setting line.
I would also buy a Kaiju unleashed and/or revisited book.
I WOULD BY TEN OF THEM! ;) :D
Hmmm...I wonder if we're gonna get some more Celestials aside from new Angels. We're still missing a CR 20 Archon and I certainly wouldn't mind some new Agathions, and Azata. :D
Myth Lord |
I'm happy creatures like Orang-pendak made it in, that gives hope for creatures like Yara-Ma-Yha-Who or other myths with strange names.
I never cared for Kaiju, the bigger the worse for me, well I love creatures that are medium, small, large and huge, bigger isn't my thing, so that there aren't Kaiju in this is good news for me personally, they take 2 pages each. But i'm sure entire America is down for them, they love things big, lol.
I hope this book has the Phthisic from the Psychic D&D book (the book with Caller in Darkness, Brain Mole, Intellect Devourer and others) A creature born out of a mad mind is always cool.
I wished the fear eater would have been in this book instead of the Occult Bestiary.
MMCJawa |
ErisAcolyte-Chaos jester wrote:I'm assuming orang-pendaks are the "half-sasquatch race". ^_^Really interested in seeing this come out.
Though minor question: what is an orang-pedak? Would is be similar to a humanoid, sentient orangatang, so you could have a figure like king Louee(not sure if spelt right but still) becoming a playable character.
Also the addition of expanded universal monster rules. What might that entail, just some minor hints might be nice to here about.
I am kind of hoping they are different. Orang Pendak's in cryptozoology are a quite different beast, and I would expect them more in Tian Xia than the North American analogue
Kalindlara Contributor |
Kalindlara wrote:I am kind of hoping they are different. Orang Pendak's in cryptozoology are a quite different beast, and I would expect them more in Tian Xia than the North American analogueErisAcolyte-Chaos jester wrote:I'm assuming orang-pendaks are the "half-sasquatch race". ^_^Really interested in seeing this come out.
Though minor question: what is an orang-pedak? Would is be similar to a humanoid, sentient orangatang, so you could have a figure like king Louee(not sure if spelt right but still) becoming a playable character.
Also the addition of expanded universal monster rules. What might that entail, just some minor hints might be nice to here about.
I'm just assuming that based on where they're listed up above, in the "player-friendly races" section.
Wannabe Demon Lord |
Well if one is like big foot and the other is a small size ape man then I would be fine.
Ebu Gogo?
I've actually been avoiding Ebu Gogo in fantasy because they were once a real creature, and I'm half convinced they still were rather recently, but it occurs to me that they would make an awesome PC race.
Mark Seifter Designer |
Any Devs willing to share the name of the awesome Hopkinsville Goblin creatures? Or whether or not they are gremlins? I'm also curious about the decision to make the Kabandha a Cyclops rather than a Rakshasa like I assumed it would be. Anyone feel like sharing the insight there?
Perhaps. First though, where are you hearing these particular rumors?
Acolyte of Mushu |
Wannabe Demon Lord wrote:Any Devs willing to share the name of the awesome Hopkinsville Goblin creatures? Or whether or not they are gremlins? I'm also curious about the decision to make the Kabandha a Cyclops rather than a Rakshasa like I assumed it would be. Anyone feel like sharing the insight there?Perhaps. First though, where are you hearing these particular rumors?
An image similar to the descriptions of the Hopkinsville Goblin was in the Paizo Catalog for Bestiary 5. So not rumors exactly :P Assumptions I suppose, but I'd be surprised if that's not the Hopkinsville Goblin in some form
Mark Seifter Designer |
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Mark Seifter wrote:An image similar to the descriptions of the Hopkinsville Goblin was in the Paizo Catalog for Bestiary 5. So not rumors exactly :P Assumptions I suppose, but I'd be surprised if that's not the Hopkinsville Goblin in some formWannabe Demon Lord wrote:Any Devs willing to share the name of the awesome Hopkinsville Goblin creatures? Or whether or not they are gremlins? I'm also curious about the decision to make the Kabandha a Cyclops rather than a Rakshasa like I assumed it would be. Anyone feel like sharing the insight there?Perhaps. First though, where are you hearing these particular rumors?
Aha! Very clever you two. I will confirm your sighting as a type of gremlin. Like most gremlins, they love making wicked mischief, but these guys are particularly nasty in how they do it.
Acolyte of Mushu |
Acolyte of Mushu wrote:Aha! Very clever you two. I will confirm your sighting as a type of gremlin. Like most gremlins, they love making wicked mischief, but these guys are particularly nasty in how they do it.Mark Seifter wrote:An image similar to the descriptions of the Hopkinsville Goblin was in the Paizo Catalog for Bestiary 5. So not rumors exactly :P Assumptions I suppose, but I'd be surprised if that's not the Hopkinsville Goblin in some formWannabe Demon Lord wrote:Any Devs willing to share the name of the awesome Hopkinsville Goblin creatures? Or whether or not they are gremlins? I'm also curious about the decision to make the Kabandha a Cyclops rather than a Rakshasa like I assumed it would be. Anyone feel like sharing the insight there?Perhaps. First though, where are you hearing these particular rumors?
...alien gremlins? :) Thatt's cool, should provide an interesting monster nonetheless.
Eric Hinkle |
Any Devs willing to share the name of the awesome Hopkinsville Goblin creatures? Or whether or not they are gremlins?
Just so long as they have a high DR and glow in the dark.
For that matter if we're talking modern weirdness, how about critters that can double as the Men in Black of paranoid Ufologist lore? Or is there a monster already existing in the game that can double for them?
christos gurd |
Wannabe Demon Lord wrote:Any Devs willing to share the name of the awesome Hopkinsville Goblin creatures? Or whether or not they are gremlins?Just so long as they have a high DR and glow in the dark.
For that matter if we're talking modern weirdness, how about critters that can double as the Men in Black of paranoid Ufologist lore? Or is there a monster already existing in the game that can double for them?
sounds kinda like inquisitors to me
Cthulhudrew |
For that matter if we're talking modern weirdness, how about critters that can double as the Men in Black of paranoid Ufologist lore? Or is there a monster already existing in the game that can double for them?sounds kinda like inquisitors to me
Inquisitor archetype that is an alien hunter. Sounds good to me! :D
Dragon78 |
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I can't to fond out what all the 0HD races will be in the book.
I think a non-religious group of "men in black" would be cool. Though I would make them investigators, alchemists, occultists, psychics, rouges, and other classes with special archetypes. Though making them actual alien creatures pretending to be mysterious humans to cover there own or other alien's presence.
Fourshadow |
I can't to fond out what all the 0HD races will be in the book.
I think a non-religious group of "men in black" would be cool. Though I would make them investigators, alchemists, occultists, psychics, rouges, and other classes with special archetypes. Though making them actual alien creatures pretending to be mysterious humans to cover there own or other alien's presence.
How about ROGUES instead?! Face paint just doesn't do a whole lot to create a player character class.
Kalindlara Contributor |
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I can't to fond out what all the 0HD races will be in the book.
I think a non-religious group of "men in black" would be cool. Though I would make them investigators, alchemists, occultists, psychics, rouges, and other classes with special archetypes. Though making them actual alien creatures pretending to be mysterious humans to cover there own or other alien's presence.
You should check out the Campaign Setting book Occult Mysteries. The section on the Bureau of Criers (under "Conference Z") was meant to scratch that particular itch. ^_^
Myth Lord |
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I really, REALLY hope this book has some Mythological giants this time around, it seems pathfinder only adds in environment giants and ignores the myth giants such as Jack-in-Irons, Zogbanu and Gawigawen.
But maybe in Bestiary 5!
Also the more original mythological sea serpents would be nice, especially Amhuluk the mutant sea/lake serpent, Bakunawa the shadow and eclipse sea serpent, Haietlik the spear-headed lightning sea serpent, Cirein Croin the silver, shapeshifting sea serpent, and Ikuchi the oil-leaking sea serpent.
Lord-of-Boggards |
Even though I already made homebrew versions, it'd be nice to see Cynocephali, Monopods, Blemmyes, and a reprint of the Panotti from Murder's Mark. Weird humanoidish races from strange exotic lands!
Now that would be neat. Blemmyes/Anthropophage are a lot more disturbing to me after reading a certain novel...
Eric Hinkle |
I really, REALLY hope this book has some Mythological giants this time around, it seems pathfinder only adds in environment giants and ignores the myth giants such as Jack-in-Irons, Zogbanu and Gawigawen.
But maybe in Bestiary 5!
I'd like to see Jack-in-Irons and other mythological giants myself, but couldn't you do him as an ogre with the advanced template, some levels of slayer or rogue, and with a flail or spiked chain for a weapon?
The Golux |
Panotti?
They were statted in the module Murder's Mark like I said, and their stats are on d20pfsrd. They're basically humanoids with a few racial hit dice that have ears big enough to serve as cloaks or wings. They're usually neutral good but don't take being made fun of for their appearance lightly. They really appealed to me as a semi-friendly weird humanoid race from exotic lands, which is backed up as their origin as one of the races allegedly from the land of Prester John.
Myth Lord |
Myth Lord wrote:I'd like to see Jack-in-Irons and other mythological giants myself, but couldn't you do him as an ogre with the advanced template, some levels of slayer or rogue, and with a flail or spiked chain for a weapon?I really, REALLY hope this book has some Mythological giants this time around, it seems pathfinder only adds in environment giants and ignores the myth giants such as Jack-in-Irons, Zogbanu and Gawigawen.
But maybe in Bestiary 5!
No, mythological unique monsters shouldn't be templates, if we can have elementals of time and everything else, and environment giants, drakes of every rainbow color and golems from salt and grain, why not the more original mythology giants?
If templates should be used, its for the elemental/environment overused stuff, not the myth stuff.
I also want to see Blemmyes (though the one in Kobold Press is good enough for me), Cynocephaly (but rather Psoglav), Panotti and Gegenees.
Myth Lord |
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NPC Ogre? I don't get you?
They made a monster out of the Tooth Fairy, so why can't they create a Kyton Giant from the Jack-in-Irons, you don't have to follow 100% of the myth.
I really take a cool chain controlling, torture giant over another environment giant ANYday.
With that saying you can leave Rakshasa out because we have Weretigers already, we can leave vrykolakas out because its an NPC werewolf, we can dump all the Nosferatu, Vetala and other vampires because we have the normal vampire already?
So yeah, I really don't get why Jack-in-Irons has anything to so with a vanilla ogre? Especially since we even have Ogrekin.
Jack-in-Irons is a giant, not an ogre, its much too big to be one.
Al this talk about Jack-in-Irons gave me this idea:
Why not make the English Jack-in-Irons and the Dutch Osschaart both new Kytons? they are both covered in chains, so a giant kyton and a dog/cat/beast like kyton would be something cool and different!
Osschaart looks like some black giant cat-dog mixture covered in chains, when you see it you feel a very big weight on your shoulders as something is crushing you, it can also jump on your back and increase in weight, torturing the victim until it is crushed to death or dies out of exhaustion.
Both cool and cruel Kyton breeds if you ask me. (and for all those doubters that think that you shouldn't stride from the real myth too far, just think about Tooth Fairy, Kelpie, Leshy and all those others)
There was also some ghost covered in chains, but I fogot it's name, could be a cool undead spiritual kyton.
Milo v3 |
NPC Ogre? I don't get you?
They made a monster out of the Tooth Fairy, so why can't they create a Kyton Giant from the Jack-in-Irons, you don't have to follow 100% of the myth.
I really take a cool chain controlling, torture giant over another environment giant ANYday.
With that saying you can leave Rakshasa out because we have Weretigers already, we can leave vrykolakas out because its an NPC werewolf, we can dump all the Nosferatu, Vetala and other vampires because we have the normal vampire already?
So yeah, I really don't get why Jack-in-Irons has anything to so with a vanilla ogre? Especially since we even have Ogrekin.
Jack-in-Irons is a giant, not an ogre, its much too big to be one.
Except those creatures aren't the exact same as the others.... But jack-in-irons is literally just a large sized humanoid wearing heads and chains. Also, an ogre is a type of giant...
Myth Lord |
If you have a little bit of imagination, you can do all kind of wonders with Jack-in-Irons.
Weretigers for me are just boring Rakshasa, so there is where our imagination differs.
But then again, i'm not a fan of environment, elemental and lycanthropes of every animal.
I rather see interesting chain covered giants that love to torture and haunt lonely roads.
Ogres are small, giants are much bigger.
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If you have a little bit of imagination, you can do all kind of wonders with Jack-in-Irons.
You sure can! Bump up the ogre a size category or two and give it a feat or two to allow it to use its chains effectively. Or maybe use the hill giant as the base creature.
Better yet, tinker with modifying a regular kyton using templates and the advancement rules, and you have a pretty nifty Jack-in-Irons.
I'm not saying that a new monster isn't warranted, but with a bit of imagination and a bit of tinkering, you can create it using existing rules. :)