Can a headband or belt, giving an enhancement bonus, qualify you for feats?


Rules Questions


Pathfinder Rulebook, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

As per the title, if you have a character with a headband or belt, do you take those into consideration when seeing if you meet the prerequisites for feats?

I.e. with a DEX 15 and belt of incredible dexterity +2, do you qualify for the DEX 17 for Improved Two-Weapon Fighting?


SuperSheep wrote:

As per the title, if you have a character with a headband or belt, do you take those into consideration when seeing if you meet the prerequisites for feats?

I.e. with a DEX 15 and belt of incredible dexterity +2, do you qualify for the DEX 17 for Improved Two-Weapon Fighting?

I know that in 3.5 they ruled that it DID let you qualify for feats, but if you lost the item, you could no longer use the feat.

Not sure with Pathfinder, but it is probably the same.


QOShea wrote:
SuperSheep wrote:

As per the title, if you have a character with a headband or belt, do you take those into consideration when seeing if you meet the prerequisites for feats?

I.e. with a DEX 15 and belt of incredible dexterity +2, do you qualify for the DEX 17 for Improved Two-Weapon Fighting?

I know that in 3.5 they ruled that it DID let you qualify for feats, but if you lost the item, you could no longer use the feat.

Not sure with Pathfinder, but it is probably the same.

In PF it does let you qualify for Feats. However, if you lose the item, or otherwise stop using it for whatever reason, you lose access to that Feat until you again qualify for it.


Official cite:

Pathfinder Core Rules, Ability Scores wrote:

Permanent Bonuses

Ability bonuses with a duration greater than 1 day actually increase the relevant ability score after 24 hours. Modify all skills and statistics related to that ability. This might cause you to gain skill points, hit points, and other bonuses. These bonuses should be noted separately in case they are removed.

So if you have a bonus that lasts longer than a day, such as wearing your Belt of Incredible Dexterity +2 for a whole day, then you actually increase the ability score. It's no longer a "bonus" because now it's just a higher ability score.

And there's this:

Pathfinder Core Rules, Feats wrote:

Prerequisites

Some feats have prerequisites. Your character must have the indicated ability score, class feature, feat, skill, base attack bonus, or other quality designated in order to select or use that feat. A character can gain a feat at the same level at which he gains the prerequisite.

A character can't use a feat if he loses a prerequisite, but he does not lose the feat itself. If, at a later time, he regains the lost prerequisite, he immediately regains full use of the feat that prerequisite enables.

So once you qualify for Improved Two Weapon Fighting, you can take the feat. And if you do, and then you some lose your belt, you won't be able to use your feat until you get another belt, but the feat is not lost or forgotten - you just aren't nimble enough to use it right now.

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