Matthulu |
Matthulu wrote:In the AP where the star spawn of Cthulu is found there is a blurb about Great Cthulu that says that he would be as powerful to a star spawn as a star spawn is to a normal person. That would put his CR at 400..... I would love to see that stat block! (Assuming a CR 1 character)That was written before Mythic Adventures was anything more than a distant future possibility.
Cthulhu is CR 30. The maximum CR we can really do in the game, pretty much.
I figured as much. Just thought that would be funny. Also I need to learn to spell Cthulhu.
Zaister |
Zaister wrote:Tooth fairy sounds a bit silly to me.Check out Hellboy 2.
Actually, I'd rather not, because I didn't even like the Hellboy character and mythos in the comics in the first place. Besides, I'm rather skptical about del Toro. Making trash like "Blade II" is a serious disqualification in my eyes.
I guess this "tooth fairy" thing is too American and too far removed from my European mindset.
Sincubus |
James Jacobs wrote:Zaister wrote:Tooth fairy sounds a bit silly to me.Check out Hellboy 2.Actually, I'd rather not, because I didn't even like the Hellboy character and mythos in the comics in the first place. Besides, I'm rather skptical about del Toro. Making trash like "Blade II" is a serious disqualification in my eyes.
I guess this "tooth fairy" thing is too American and too far removed from my European mindset.
I'm european and I like me some tooth-faeries, and the only thing very American to me is the Kaiju, never seen much people from Europe beg for those big monsters anywhere, and i've been on a lot of game/monster/movie forums from europe, this forum also learned me about Lovecraft, never heard about that author on any european forum.
Skymetal is too Inner Sea Bestiary, it won't make it into the bestiary me thinks.
Zaister |
I'm european and I like me some tooth-faeries
What I meant is that the myth of the tooth fairy doesn't seem to be something told to kids here. At least I never heard of tooth fairies when I was a kid. Probably these days, this has been imported from the US, like many other customs that were never observed of here thirty years ago, such as Halloween etc.
Heine Stick |
...this forum also learned me about Lovecraft, never heard about that author on any european forum.
I don't doubt for a second that your only exposure to the Cthulhu Mythos has been through paizo.com, or that the forums you've visited have contained little or no discussion about the Cthulhu Mythos, but the works of H.P. Lovecraft has quite a following in Europe as well. Every gamer I've met during my 20-some years as a gamer has had some kind of interest in or knowledge of Cthulhu and his cosmic brethren. For many, the exposure to this horror subgenre has been through the Call of Cthulhu RPG released by Chaosium Inc (myself included), but for many others the Cthulhu Mythos has revealed itself to them directly through the writings of Mr Lovecraft and other writers.
So yeah, H.P. Lovecraft isn't just an American thing. Not in my experience, at least.
Heine Stick |
What I meant is that the myth of the tooth fairy doesn't seem to be something told to kids here. At least I never heard of tooth fairies when I was a kid. Probably these days, this has been imported from the US, like many other customs that were never observed of here thirty years ago, such as Halloween etc.
I don't know where in the world you're from, Zaister, but here in Denmark the tooth fairy is a common story told to children. Whenever a child loses a tooth, the tooth is put under the pillow. The parents then replace the tooth with a coin at some point during the night and blame the switch on the benevolent tooth fairy. Of course, this is a child-friendly version.
Strife2002 |
Zaister wrote:James Jacobs wrote:Zaister wrote:Tooth fairy sounds a bit silly to me.Check out Hellboy 2.Actually, I'd rather not, because I didn't even like the Hellboy character and mythos in the comics in the first place. Besides, I'm rather skptical about del Toro. Making trash like "Blade II" is a serious disqualification in my eyes.
I guess this "tooth fairy" thing is too American and too far removed from my European mindset.
I'm european and I like me some tooth-faeries, and the only thing very American to me is the Kaiju, never seen much people from Europe beg for those big monsters anywhere, and i've been on a lot of game/monster/movie forums from europe, this forum also learned me about Lovecraft, never heard about that author on any european forum.
Skymetal is too Inner Sea Bestiary, it won't make it into the bestiary me thinks.
If by American, you're saying that it's the Americans who've requested it more than anyone else, then maybe. But if you're saying Americans are the originators of Kaiju, well that's not true. That's a Japanese thing (see: Godzilla). The word Kaiju translates to "strange beast"
Odraude |
James Jacobs wrote:Zaister wrote:Tooth fairy sounds a bit silly to me.Check out Hellboy 2.Actually, I'd rather not, because I didn't even like the Hellboy character and mythos in the comics in the first place. Besides, I'm rather skptical about del Toro. Making trash like "Blade II" is a serious disqualification in my eyes.
I guess this "tooth fairy" thing is too American and too far removed from my European mindset.
Blade II was terrible, but trust me when I say he's definitely made up for it in his movies.
nighttree |
Mmm, not to nit-pick, but in the Celtic myths, they ARE deformed giants. Oops, I guess that I am nit-picking...
However, in the sense that the write up in D&D is closed and you'd have to totally reinvent them I suppose that it would be of questionable value to put forth all that effort.
European lore (both Celtic & Scandinavian) uses the term "giant" more as a racial designation....not a reference to size (as we do now).
Many beings are refered to as "giants" and then described as being the same size as mortals.
Although some Fomori/Giants are described as being "ugly".. many are not.
It often seems to be more a case of their physical form reflecting their attitude.
James Jacobs Creative Director |
James Jacobs wrote:Zaister wrote:Tooth fairy sounds a bit silly to me.Check out Hellboy 2.Actually, I'd rather not, because I didn't even like the Hellboy character and mythos in the comics in the first place. Besides, I'm rather skptical about del Toro. Making trash like "Blade II" is a serious disqualification in my eyes.
I guess this "tooth fairy" thing is too American and too far removed from my European mindset.
Then you'll need to gird yourself, I guess, for that monster being one of the monsters in the book you don't like.
No monster book is perfect to everyone. I can do without leshys, for example, but that doesn't make Bestiary 3 any less cool.
James Jacobs Creative Director |
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Zaister wrote:Blade II was terrible, but trust me when I say he's definitely made up for it in his movies.James Jacobs wrote:Zaister wrote:Tooth fairy sounds a bit silly to me.Check out Hellboy 2.Actually, I'd rather not, because I didn't even like the Hellboy character and mythos in the comics in the first place. Besides, I'm rather skptical about del Toro. Making trash like "Blade II" is a serious disqualification in my eyes.
I guess this "tooth fairy" thing is too American and too far removed from my European mindset.
I disagree. I loved Blade II; and that movie is, incidentally, why sinspawn look the way they do.
Odraude |
Odraude wrote:I disagree. I loved Blade II; and that movie is, incidentally, why sinspawn look the way they do.Zaister wrote:Blade II was terrible, but trust me when I say he's definitely made up for it in his movies.James Jacobs wrote:Zaister wrote:Tooth fairy sounds a bit silly to me.Check out Hellboy 2.Actually, I'd rather not, because I didn't even like the Hellboy character and mythos in the comics in the first place. Besides, I'm rather skptical about del Toro. Making trash like "Blade II" is a serious disqualification in my eyes.
I guess this "tooth fairy" thing is too American and too far removed from my European mindset.
I don't remember anything that looked like that. All I remember is Ryan Renolds and the girl with the silly iPod product placement.
Sincubus |
Zaister wrote:James Jacobs wrote:Zaister wrote:Tooth fairy sounds a bit silly to me.Check out Hellboy 2.Actually, I'd rather not, because I didn't even like the Hellboy character and mythos in the comics in the first place. Besides, I'm rather skptical about del Toro. Making trash like "Blade II" is a serious disqualification in my eyes.
I guess this "tooth fairy" thing is too American and too far removed from my European mindset.
Then you'll need to gird yourself, I guess, for that monster being one of the monsters in the book you don't like.
No monster book is perfect to everyone. I can do without leshys, for example, but that doesn't make Bestiary 3 any less cool.
You mean the leshies from mythology or the leshies from pahtfinder?
Dragon78 |
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Yes Odraude, Heine Stick is right, that part about the lies wasn't aimed at you.
How do we know Santa Claus isn't in the Bestiary 4;) I mean some evil winter fey that looks like a jolly fat human with a bag of holding, who forces Gnomes to make toys all year round as slave labor sounds cool to me.
Hopefully the Bestiary 4 will have most of the Lovecraftian creatures from AP#46 and AP#64. Well except for the Dimensional Shambler, Gnoph-Keh, and Dark Young since they can't reprint them without permission.
Zaister |
Then you'll need to gird yourself, I guess, for that monster being one of the monsters in the book you don't like.
No monster book is perfect to everyone. I can do without leshys, for example, but that doesn't make Bestiary 3 any less cool.
The monster can still be cool, I trust you guys on this. It's just that this myth seems somewhat silly to someone who didn't grow up with it.
James Jacobs Creative Director |
James Jacobs Creative Director |
James Jacobs wrote:You mean the leshies from mythology or the leshies from pahtfinder?Zaister wrote:James Jacobs wrote:Zaister wrote:Tooth fairy sounds a bit silly to me.Check out Hellboy 2.Actually, I'd rather not, because I didn't even like the Hellboy character and mythos in the comics in the first place. Besides, I'm rather skptical about del Toro. Making trash like "Blade II" is a serious disqualification in my eyes.
I guess this "tooth fairy" thing is too American and too far removed from my European mindset.
Then you'll need to gird yourself, I guess, for that monster being one of the monsters in the book you don't like.
No monster book is perfect to everyone. I can do without leshys, for example, but that doesn't make Bestiary 3 any less cool.
I mean the leshies from Pathifnder. As far as I know, there are no actual real mythological leshies in any Bestiaries. ;)
Leo_Negri |
Sincubus wrote:I mean the leshies from Pathifnder. As far as I know, there are no actual real mythological leshies in any Bestiaries. ;)James Jacobs wrote:You mean the leshies from mythology or the leshies from pahtfinder?Zaister wrote:James Jacobs wrote:Zaister wrote:Tooth fairy sounds a bit silly to me.Check out Hellboy 2.Actually, I'd rather not, because I didn't even like the Hellboy character and mythos in the comics in the first place. Besides, I'm rather skptical about del Toro. Making trash like "Blade II" is a serious disqualification in my eyes.
I guess this "tooth fairy" thing is too American and too far removed from my European mindset.
Then you'll need to gird yourself, I guess, for that monster being one of the monsters in the book you don't like.
No monster book is perfect to everyone. I can do without leshys, for example, but that doesn't make Bestiary 3 any less cool.
Which is sad, as the Russian Leshia (spelling is off but plural of Leshy) are actually fairly interesting nature spirits. I for one would like seeing more Russian and Eastern European mythological beings in Pathfinder. it's part of why I am so fond of Midgard (well, that and Kobolds ;-) )
James Jacobs Creative Director |
Which is sad, as the Russian Leshia (spelling is off but plural of Leshy) are actually fairly interesting nature spirits. I for one would like seeing more Russian and Eastern European mythological beings in Pathfinder. it's part of why I am so fond of Midgard (well, that and Kobolds ;-) )
It's only sad for me, since I'm the one who doesn't like how they work in Pathfinder! :-P
And if you're looking for more stuff from Russian and Eastern Europe... you really REALLY need to check out the Reign of Winter Adventure Path. That thing is FILLED with stuff from those myth cycles and folklore.
John Kretzer |
I'm from Germany, too, although it's now been almost 40 years since i was the age relevant for tooth-fairy tales (or similar stuff), I didn't know something like that was even a fairy tale until, I guess, the early 90s when it came up in some TV show I was watcheng.
<rant>Besides, I really don't understand why parents tell their kids crappy lies like that. Tooth fairies, easter bunnies, Christkind or Santa Claus. I think lying to kids is not cool. Kids are more intelligent than that and deserve better. </rant>
At the very least it will tech kids how to detect lies and not to trust anyone. That is a important life lesson.
My question is....why do you like PF at all? I mean pretty much you are lieing to yourself and well it really does seem silly to people not playing. I just find it strange for a fan of RPG not be a fan of myths in general.
Not trying to judge you...just never really ran into a opinion that matches yours before.
Numerian |
I mean the leshies from Pathifnder. As far as I know, there are no actual real mythological leshies in any Bestiaries. ;)
Which is sad, as the Russian Leshia (spelling is off but plural of Leshy) are actually fairly interesting nature spirits. I for one would like seeing more Russian and Eastern European mythological beings in Pathfinder. it's part of why I am so fond of Midgard (well, that and Kobolds ;-) )
I use the leshi from Dragon 290 as the real one, other plant leshy are grown as their servants.
Steven "Troll" O'Neal |
I hope some Hindu based monsters like the Apsarases, Yakshas, Gandharvas, Bhogavati, and Preta.
I really hope for some more Japanese mythical creatures like Bakeneko, Nekomata, Chochinobake, Heikegani, Hitodama, inugami, Kasa-obake, Kiyohime, and more kami.
Yes, more kami, I can get behind that.