Enlight_Bystand |
When will this be available from my FNGS?
The release date is the same as the PDF (June 26th). It's possible that your store might take longer than that to get it though.
Eric Hinkle |
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goldomark wrote:It provides a boon based on one of four possible ceremonies (Funeral, Holiday Fete, Marriage, and Naming). In addition, the cleric can create additional ceremonies based on his domains.What does that ceremony spell do?
It givesa +2 luck bonus against divorce checks? *rim shot*
This will sound odd, but I'm assuming that various marriage rituals differ from deity to deity. Which kinda makes me wonder, what, say weddings look like when performed by the darker faiths like Zon-Kuthon, Urgathoa, or Lamashtu. What? I have a perverse curiosity.
WampaX |
Love the content, but did I miss the discussion on the paper stock changing? The Kobold PG and this arrived at that same time, but the printing stock is completely different. I like the new stock and hope it helps keep the interior images from printing too darkly.
Patrick Renie Developer |
Love the content, but did I miss the discussion on the paper stock changing? The Kobold PG and this arrived at that same time, but the printing stock is completely different. I like the new stock and hope it helps keep the interior images from printing too darkly.
In order to ensure this book was printed in a timely manner, we sent it to a Canadian printer rather than our usual one in China. That's why the paper stock for the cover is different.
MythMage RPG Superstar 2012 Top 16 |
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Heine Stick wrote:This will sound odd, but I'm assuming that various marriage rituals differ from deity to deity. Which kinda makes me wonder, what, say weddings look like when performed by the darker faiths like Zon-Kuthon, Urgathoa, or Lamashtu. What? I have a perverse curiosity.goldomark wrote:It provides a boon based on one of four possible ceremonies (Funeral, Holiday Fete, Marriage, and Naming). In addition, the cleric can create additional ceremonies based on his domains.What does that ceremony spell do?
It givesa +2 luck bonus against divorce checks? *rim shot*
Just my 2 copper, but...
I'd personally expect Lamashtu's to be sexualized and to involve sacrifices by a bride in the hopes that the goddess would bless her womb with many goddess-touched offspring. This deity seems like the sort to encourage a woman to take multiple husbands, presuming she bothers with such a long-term alliance.
A marriage performed in the name of Zon-Kuthon or Urgathoa seems to me likely to be a relatively simple or improvised affair, since these deities don't really seem to have much divine interest in marriage. The big, ritualized, significantly sacred/profane marriages seem likely to be found only among faiths revolving around love, marriage, fertility, or contracts, and outside of places where religion is restricted (such as Nidal), I'd expect people to most often be married by a priest of such a deity as Abadar, Asmodeus (especially political marriages), Erastil, Gozreh, Lamashtu (as mentioned above), Pharasma (especially if there is a pregnant bride or a bride who desires many successful pregnancies), Sarenrae (especially marriages formalizing relationships built on an exceptional degree of honesty/forgiveness), or Shelyn (especially those who marry for love despite any trouble it causes).
Enlight_Bystand |
Eric Hinkle wrote:Heine Stick wrote:This will sound odd, but I'm assuming that various marriage rituals differ from deity to deity. Which kinda makes me wonder, what, say weddings look like when performed by the darker faiths like Zon-Kuthon, Urgathoa, or Lamashtu. What? I have a perverse curiosity.goldomark wrote:It provides a boon based on one of four possible ceremonies (Funeral, Holiday Fete, Marriage, and Naming). In addition, the cleric can create additional ceremonies based on his domains.What does that ceremony spell do?
It givesa +2 luck bonus against divorce checks? *rim shot*
Just my 2 copper, but...
I'd personally expect Lamashtu's to be sexualized and to involve sacrifices by a bride in the hopes that the goddess would bless her womb with many goddess-touched offspring. This deity seems like the sort to encourage a woman to take multiple husbands, presuming she bothers with such a long-term alliance.
A marriage performed in the name of Zon-Kuthon or Urgathoa seems to me likely to be a relatively simple or improvised affair, since these deities don't really seem to have much divine interest in marriage. The big, ritualized, significantly sacred/profane marriages seem likely to be found only among faiths revolving around love, marriage, fertility, or contracts, and outside of places where religion is restricted (such as Nidal), I'd expect people to most often be married by a priest of such a deity as Abadar, Asmodeus (especially political marriages), Erastil, Gozreh, Lamashtu (as mentioned above), Pharasma (especially if there is a pregnant bride or a bride who desires many successful pregnancies), Sarenrae (especially marriages formalizing relationships built on an exceptional degree of honesty/forgiveness), or Shelyn (especially those who marry for love despite any trouble it causes).
The wedding might be a minor affair for Urgathoa, but the reception will be quite the party...
Eric Hinkle |
Eric Hinkle wrote:Heine Stick wrote:This will sound odd, but I'm assuming that various marriage rituals differ from deity to deity. Which kinda makes me wonder, what, say weddings look like when performed by the darker faiths like Zon-Kuthon, Urgathoa, or Lamashtu. What? I have a perverse curiosity.goldomark wrote:It provides a boon based on one of four possible ceremonies (Funeral, Holiday Fete, Marriage, and Naming). In addition, the cleric can create additional ceremonies based on his domains.What does that ceremony spell do?
It givesa +2 luck bonus against divorce checks? *rim shot*
Just my 2 copper, but...
I'd personally expect Lamashtu's to be sexualized and to involve sacrifices by a bride in the hopes that the goddess would bless her womb with many goddess-touched offspring. This deity seems like the sort to encourage a woman to take multiple husbands, presuming she bothers with such a long-term alliance.
A marriage performed in the name of Zon-Kuthon or Urgathoa seems to me likely to be a relatively simple or improvised affair, since these deities don't really seem to have much divine interest in marriage. The big, ritualized, significantly sacred/profane marriages seem likely to be found only among faiths revolving around love, marriage, fertility, or contracts, and outside of places where religion is restricted (such as Nidal), I'd expect people to most often be married by a priest of such a deity as Abadar, Asmodeus (especially political marriages), Erastil, Gozreh, Lamashtu (as mentioned above), Pharasma (especially if there is a pregnant bride or a bride who desires many successful pregnancies), Sarenrae (especially marriages formalizing relationships built on an exceptional degree of honesty/forgiveness), or Shelyn (especially those who marry for love despite any trouble it causes).
My own take on an Urgathoan wedding is that you'll have a hard time telling the difference between that and a funeral. Mostly because they're very often the same thing, especially when the bride or groom is an undead. I think there was a comment to that effect in the article covering Urgathoa's faith that described how many of her priestesses have 'harems' of zombified former husbands.
And of course that's not even touching the reception, when the celebrants shamble out into the streets and drag back the first mortal they meet to join in the buffet.
Mikaze |
Hmmm, Blessed Story Feat and no comment from Mikaze yet! I thought for sure that would be right up his alley, =) Love the book so far!
Just read it. (a lot came out this month!) I really love that redemptive angle it takes. :)
Admittedly a bit harder for, say, a half-orc barbarian or a tiefling paladin to take, but it's still something that can be shot for by those characters.
rknop |
I love the goblin versions of Seoni and Valeros on the inside covers. The Valeros one even gets the pose from the Core rulebook spot-on. Does anybody know if the goblin Seoni is a reference to a particular picture somewhere? Also, are there other goblin iconics in other books that I've missed?
Axial |
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MythMage wrote:The wedding might be a minor affair for Urgathoa, but the reception will be quite the party...Eric Hinkle wrote:Heine Stick wrote:This will sound odd, but I'm assuming that various marriage rituals differ from deity to deity. Which kinda makes me wonder, what, say weddings look like when performed by the darker faiths like Zon-Kuthon, Urgathoa, or Lamashtu. What? I have a perverse curiosity.goldomark wrote:It provides a boon based on one of four possible ceremonies (Funeral, Holiday Fete, Marriage, and Naming). In addition, the cleric can create additional ceremonies based on his domains.What does that ceremony spell do?
It givesa +2 luck bonus against divorce checks? *rim shot*
Just my 2 copper, but...
I'd personally expect Lamashtu's to be sexualized and to involve sacrifices by a bride in the hopes that the goddess would bless her womb with many goddess-touched offspring. This deity seems like the sort to encourage a woman to take multiple husbands, presuming she bothers with such a long-term alliance.
A marriage performed in the name of Zon-Kuthon or Urgathoa seems to me likely to be a relatively simple or improvised affair, since these deities don't really seem to have much divine interest in marriage. The big, ritualized, significantly sacred/profane marriages seem likely to be found only among faiths revolving around love, marriage, fertility, or contracts, and outside of places where religion is restricted (such as Nidal), I'd expect people to most often be married by a priest of such a deity as Abadar, Asmodeus (especially political marriages), Erastil, Gozreh, Lamashtu (as mentioned above), Pharasma (especially if there is a pregnant bride or a bride who desires many successful pregnancies), Sarenrae (especially marriages formalizing relationships built on an exceptional degree of honesty/forgiveness), or Shelyn (especially those who marry for love despite any trouble it causes).
Your Grace, I feel I've been remiss in my duties. I've given you meat and wine and music, but I haven’t shown you the hospitality you deserve. My King has married and I owe my new Queen a wedding gift.
RedXian |
I was just going through my collection and notice that the cover for Quests & Campaigns is not as glossy as my other books.
Is this the same for everyone, or is mine a print error?
Eric Hinkle |
I was just going through my collection and notice that the cover for Quests & Campaigns is not as glossy as my other books.
Is this the same for everyone, or is mine a print error?
No, mine's that way too. I think they explained it elsewhere in the thread that they used a different printer for this one?
Oh, and I want to say that I love the new kingdom-ruling and generalship feats, as well as the hints on various sorts of quests PCs can engage in for the sake of their story feats.
Enlight_Bystand |
RedXian wrote:I was just going through my collection and notice that the cover for Quests & Campaigns is not as glossy as my other books.
Is this the same for everyone, or is mine a print error?
No, mine's that way too. I think they explained it elsewhere in the thread that they used a different printer for this one?
Oh, and I want to say that I love the new kingdom-ruling and generalship feats, as well as the hints on various sorts of quests PCs can engage in for the sake of their story feats.
It wasn't a different printer per se, rather the printer used a different stock of paper.
Irnk, Dead-Eye's Prodigal |
I love the goblin versions of Seoni and Valeros on the inside covers. The Valeros one even gets the pose from the Core rulebook spot-on. Does anybody know if the goblin Seoni is a reference to a particular picture somewhere? Also, are there other goblin iconics in other books that I've missed?
I was under the impression that the 'Goblin Seoni' was also intended to be a riff on the iconic pose from the RotRL cover & CRB. However, nope, no other iconics 'Goblinified' to my knowledge.
I'm a bit upset. I was really hoping those two would be available as avatars & for a while the Goblin Seoni was...but now I can't find either of them in the available pictures.
epic sad face :C
Patrick Renie Developer |
I'm a bit upset. I was really hoping those two would be available as avatars & for a while the Goblin Seoni was...
but now I can't find either of them in the available pictures.epic sad face :C
Was it? New Paizo.com avatars usually come out twice a year or so in big bundles, and I don't think this book has been out long enough to have been included in the latest pack. I'm almost certain this one and the Valeros goblin will make the cut during the next update. :]
Patrick Renie Developer |
Belle Mythix |
Irnk, Dead-Eye's Prodigal wrote:Was it? New Paizo.com avatars usually come out twice a year or so in big bundles, and I don't think this book has been out long enough to have been included in the latest pack. I'm almost certain this one and the Valeros goblin will make the cut during the next update. :]I'm a bit upset. I was really hoping those two would be available as avatars & for a while the Goblin Seoni was...
but now I can't find either of them in the available pictures.epic sad face :C
They were put up but disappeared, and avatars get updated more often now, ask Chris Lambertz.
Irnk, Dead-Eye's Prodigal |
Irnk, Dead-Eye's Prodigal wrote:Was it? New Paizo.com avatars usually come out twice a year or so in big bundles, and I don't think this book has been out long enough to have been included in the latest pack. I'm almost certain this one and the Valeros goblin will make the cut during the next update. :]I'm a bit upset. I was really hoping those two would be available as avatars & for a while the Goblin Seoni was...
but now I can't find either of them in the available pictures.epic sad face :C
Actually, the last couple of months the web team has been stellar & updated avatars monthly.
Patrick Renie Developer |
Patrick Renie wrote:Actually, the last couple of months the web team has been stellar & updated avatars monthly.Irnk, Dead-Eye's Prodigal wrote:Was it? New Paizo.com avatars usually come out twice a year or so in big bundles, and I don't think this book has been out long enough to have been included in the latest pack. I'm almost certain this one and the Valeros goblin will make the cut during the next update. :]I'm a bit upset. I was really hoping those two would be available as avatars & for a while the Goblin Seoni was...
but now I can't find either of them in the available pictures.epic sad face :C
Ah, shame on this ungulate for stepping on the web team's toes then!
Belle Mythix |
Morgen |
Just got the book today at my FLGS and am pretty happy with it over-all.
The author of the trait Devoted Healer however might be shocked to know that:
Treating deadly wounds takes 1 hour of work.
Just something I noticed. Now we have a trait that requires you to throw someone into 20 hours of surgery to get use out of.
Avatar-1 |
Student of Philosophy trait is in this book, use int instead of cha for most diplomacy/bluff checks.
I only play PFS, not sure if the remainder of the feats/spells/items/etc are worth buying the book?
Most of the reviews say "it's like Ultimate Campaign", but I bought Ultimate Campaign only for the retraining rules and the above-mentioned extras, and wasn't terribly impressed with what it had to offer. And I get the impression this is Ultimate Campaign Lite !
Irnk, Dead-Eye's Prodigal |
Student of Philosophy trait is in this book, use int instead of cha for most diplomacy/bluff checks.
I only play PFS, not sure if the remainder of the feats/spells/items/etc are worth buying the book?
Most of the reviews say "it's like Ultimate Campaign", but I bought Ultimate Campaign only for the retraining rules and the above-mentioned extras, and wasn't terribly impressed with what it had to offer. And I get the impression this is Ultimate Campaign Lite !
I wouldn't call it UCa lite. It's more that all the Hardcover Rules books are 'setting Neutral'. This book focuses on 'fine tuning' the information in UCa to be specific to Golarion. It has at least five pages of new traits, two pages of new drawbacks & several new feats, including new story feats, as well as feats and spells which are specifically focused on utilizing the downtime & kingdom rules. Granted, from what you say, I doubt you will get as much utility from this as someone like myself, who doesn't really play PFS.