Sooo preeeeettyyyyy!!!!! Looking forward to them!
Sweeeeeeeeet!!
3 books of the damned (and several fiendish races still under detailed - Asuras, Demodands, Divs, Kytons, Oni, Qlippoth, Rakshasa), and now finally a book of celestials. Is this covering a specific subtype (Agathion, Angels, Archons, Azatas, Garuda, or Peri) or is this a more general reference for the celestial races as a whole?
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3 books of the damned (and several fiendish races still under detailed - Asuras, Demodands, Divs, Kytons, Oni, Qlippoth, Rakshasa), and now finally a book of celestials. Is this covering a specific subtype (Agathion, Angels, Archons, Azatas, Garuda, or Peri) or is this a more general reference for the celestial races as a whole?
...the 64-page Chronicle of the Righteous reveals the inhabitants of the goodly realms of Heaven, Elysium, and Nirvana...
The bolded parts indicate that it'll focus on the celestials as a whole and not on one single subspecies.
YYESSSS!! What with the Whath of the Righteous AP comming out next year, what BETTER BACKERS would I want to fight against the Demons of the Abyss! Don't get me wrong I love the other gods and goddesses, but these guys have always been my favorites!:)
3 books of the damned (and several fiendish races still under detailed - Asuras, Demodands, Divs, Kytons, Oni, Qlippoth, Rakshasa), and now finally a book of celestials. Is this covering a specific subtype (Agathion, Angels, Archons, Azatas, Garuda, or Peri) or is this a more general reference for the celestial races as a whole?
...the 64-page Chronicle of the Righteous reveals the inhabitants of the goodly realms of Heaven, Elysium, and Nirvana...The bolded parts indicate that it'll focus on the celestials as a whole and not on one single subspecies.
Oh well, that's a shame. Once again Good gets the short end.
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Well even if my theory about this book is correct, that doesn't mean we won't see more on the celestials in the future. I do suspect, though, that daemons, demons, and devils sell more books, and that's the main reason we won't see a book for each of the celestial races, at least not until Paizo's gauged the demand for products on celestials (which Chronicles of the Righteous will help with).
- Eric Cartman
Can't wait to see this one :)
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Definitely looking forward to this! I've been waiting for a proper book detailing celestials since the 3.5 Fiendish Codex books :)
Hopefully someone realizes they have too much material for one book, and decides to split this one into several!
Finally. Oh and yay!
Well it is about time we got some celestial goodness.
neat
Are you sure it's not too light for you? :)
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Extremely curious about the new Empyreal Lords. "Frigid" Tolc really has me wondering. :)
Also, the mock-up is using my absolute favorite Pathfinder aasimar artwork.* YES.
Okay, going by Blood of Angels, these celestials are definitely going to be wildly varied. :D
*I really want to buy a print of this.
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After the dark decades of renegade drow and snarky tieflings and anti-heroes, the clouds part and it becomes cool to be *good* again. (Says the guy with an evil god as his avatar, sans irony.)
Some more sub-domains for followers of the Empyreal Lords could be awesome, perhaps based on the seven virtues or similar 'good' concepts like mercy, forgiveness, charity, hope, trust, self-sacrifice, etc.
I would be positively ecstatic, I mean like giggling maniacally, to see celestials given three books. I loved the mythos and the detail given to each of the groupings of fiends and I'd love to see equal history given to each celestial race. That said, I guess I can see how most campaigns focus on the baddies and not the NPCs helping you along, so I can see GMs wanting more detail on them. Ah, well. At least we finally got one book about celestials. I've been begging for this one for a long time.
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Best to start with one book, I suppose. As opposed to the bajillions of demon lords the game has seen come and go, and the more than a dozen 'nine archdevils,' along with the various other uber-fiends (like Anthraxus), the concept of 'Angel Lords' is pretty shiny and new, and while we've had dozens of articles going on in depth about this demon lord or that infernal heirarch, including the 3.5 Books of Fiends, and entire adventure series dealing with figures like Orcus and Lolth, we've really had little more than a couple of *sentences* about 'arch-angels' or Ragathiel or whomever.
They are pretty much starting from scratch, compared to entire articles worth of text on nobodies like Zuggtmoy, so it's probably for the best that they start small, and grow the notion more organically, than just pump out a bunch of stuff on Agathion or Azata, for instance, about which we know shockingly little, or Garuda and Peri, about which we know even less!
With names like 'planeter' and 'solar,' it leaves me wondering if there are angels named after other celestial bodies, like size and shape-changing Lunars or vast quasi-corporeal Nebulars or portentous doom-heralding fiery-trailing Cometars, or, Kirby forfend, purple-armored planet-cleansing Galactars. Are armies of angels called 'constellations,' and can they array themselves precisely to form vast glyph-like forms mimicing astrological formations that enact mythic ritual effects, so long as they remain 'in formation,' becoming 'constellations' not only in name, but in fact?
I do hope that some of the evocative names from the Bestiary (p. 18 and p. 23) get a callback. Cocidius the Hawk-Keeper, Ogoun of Fire and Iron, Cernunnos the Stag Lord and Muyingwa the Seed Thrower (a Mwangi angel? Woo!) all sound super cool.
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Are armies of angels called 'constellations,' and can they array themselves precisely to form vast glyph-like forms mimicing astrological formations that enact mythic ritual effects, so long as they remain 'in formation,' becoming 'constellations' not only in name, but in fact?
...wow. Also want.
And for those that want books dedicated to each celestial "race"(angels, azatas, etc.) like demons, devils, and so forth, there's one definite way to let Paizo know you're interested in books for celestials. :)
I would have loved a book for each type but at least we are finally getting a book for celestials.
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Are armies of angels called 'constellations,' and can they array themselves precisely to form vast glyph-like forms mimicing astrological formations that enact mythic ritual effects, so long as they remain 'in formation,' becoming 'constellations' not only in name, but in fact?
...wow. Also want.
And for those that want books dedicated to each celestial "race"(angels, azatas, etc.) like demons, devils, and so forth, there's one definite way to let Paizo know you're interested in books for celestials. :)
Complaining loudly on the message boards?
READ YA LOUD AND CLEAR! PREPARING POSTING STATIONS.
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YES!! I'm going to be so happily broke this coming year. Paizo, I love you!
I would be positively ecstatic, I mean like giggling maniacally, to see celestials given three books. I loved the mythos and the detail given to each of the groupings of fiends and I'd love to see equal history given to each celestial race. That said, I guess I can see how most campaigns focus on the baddies and not the NPCs helping you along, so I can see GMs wanting more detail on them. Ah, well. At least we finally got one book about celestials. I've been begging for this one for a long time
Wildebob, me too! I like to play paladins and priests of LG deities and having powerful denizens of the heavens to work with or for to put a crimp in the baddie's plans is awesome! I want to see books dedicated to all of the heavenly beings as well as a book dedicated to the heralds of all of Golarion's gods!
So long as we get some info on the agathions (especially a few new members of their -- race?) and the Empyreal Lords, particularly some worshiped outside of Avistan, I will be ecstatic over this book.
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With names like 'planeter' and 'solar,' it leaves me wondering if there are angels named after other celestial bodies, like size and shape-changing Lunars or vast quasi-corporeal Nebulars or portentous doom-heralding fiery-trailing Cometars, or, Kirby forfend, purple-armored planet-cleansing Galactars.
The Plutons - they thought they were Planetars, till they got reclassified.
I hope this book will have new types of Angels, Azatas, Agathions, and to a lesser extent Archons because they at least had some love in the Bestiary 3. I wonder if there are more then one type of Garuda or Peri?
I'd love some improved familiars based on Garuda and Peri...
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So long as we get some info on the agathions (especially a few new members of their -- race?) and the Empyreal Lords, particularly some worshiped outside of Avistan, I will be ecstatic over this book.
You might be interested in Shattered Star: Shards of Sin's bestiary. It's a wonderfully weird one. :)
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Muyingwa the Seed Thrower (a Mwangi angel? Woo!)
Big yes to this too. Getting a look at Empyreals and celestials seen through a non-Avistani lens would be really awesome too. Osirioni angels, Mwangi azatas, Vudrani garudas, Arcadian agathions...
Especially with Dehrukani existing. Maybe we could see who that land's patron azatas are?
I wonder if there are more then one type of Garuda or Peri?
There is a lot of crazy stuff that could be mined from the Peris' flavor if they get additional types developed. Different aspects of their fallen-then-rising nature and such. Different takes on penitence, remorse, redemption, acceptance, etc...
Garudas too. Still mighty curious how they interact with non-evil(and particularly good) nagas.
Muyingwa the Seed Thrower (a Mwangi angel? Woo!)Big yes to this too. Getting a look at Empyreals and celestials seen through a non-Avistani lens would be really awesome too. Osirioni angels, Mwangi azatas, Vudrani garudas, Arcadian agathions...
Especially with Dehrukani existing. Maybe we could see who that land's patron azatas are?
I wonder if there are more then one type of Garuda or Peri?There is a lot of crazy stuff that could be mined from the Peris' flavor if they get additional types developed. Different aspects of their fallen-then-rising nature and such. Different takes on penitence, remorse, redemption, acceptance, etc...
Garudas too. Still mighty curious how they interact with non-evil(and particularly good) nagas.
Have you looked at Cult of the Ebon Destroyers (module) ? There's some incidental information about Garudas and Nagas there.
The main enemies are a fallen, "anti-Garuda" and a Dark Naga, plus a Rakshasa.
I would love to see a Naga for every alignment.
I still wish we got a book for each celestial type like the book of the damned series did for fiends.
So long as we get some info on the agathions (especially a few new members of their -- race?) and the Empyreal Lords, particularly some worshiped outside of Avistan, I will be ecstatic over this book.You might be interested in Shattered Star: Shards of Sin's bestiary. It's a wonderfully weird one. :)
Thanks for the recommendation.
Especially with Dehrukani existing. Maybe we could see who that land's patron azatas are?
Dehrukani? Where/what is that?
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Dehrukani? Where/what is that?
It's a coastal Mwangi/Garundi(?) nation in southern Garund, off the Inner Sea Region map. The people there worship azatas, and the land is described as being an incredibly high-fantasy place*, generally peaceful, with crystaline structures built with azata aid. It was first mentioned along with Holomog(land of Mwangi amazons riding dinosaurs fighting lizardmans riding dinosaurs) in the Inner Sea Region Guide. There hasn't been any more revealed about it since though, IIRC.
*I think keeping with Erik Mona said about "the further south you go in Garund, the more fantastic it gets.
Gonna keep my eye on this one, definitely.
Dehrukani? Where/what is that?
It's a coastal Mwangi/Garundi(?) nation in southern Garund, off the Inner Sea Region map. The people there worship azatas, and the land is described as being an incredibly high-fantasy place*, generally peaceful, with crystaline structures built with azata aid. It was first mentioned along with Holomog(land of Mwangi amazons riding dinosaurs fighting lizardmans riding dinosaurs) in the Inner Sea Region Guide. There hasn't been any more revealed about it since though, IIRC.
*I think keeping with Erik Mona said about "the further south you go in Garund, the more fantastic it gets.
Thank you for the clarification! :)
I asked Mr James Jacobs if they have any plans to make more types of Garuda or Peri and he said there are none.
He also said, like Axiomites, there are no other kinds of Garuda or Peri.
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Also mighty curious about Korada, whatever s/he actually is. That Empyreal has long seemed to be a more natural fit as a patron for extremely good-leaning monks than the more self-oriented Irori, and has actually seems to be a closer Buddha analogue for those looking for one, at least from what little is known about him/her at this point.
Still extremely curious about what Ragathiel is going to look like, considering his heritage...
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Best to start with one book, I suppose. As opposed to the bajillions of demon lords the game has seen come and go, and the more than a dozen 'nine archdevils,' along with the various other uber-fiends (like Anthraxus), the concept of 'Angel Lords' is pretty shiny and new, and while we've had dozens of articles going on in depth about this demon lord or that infernal heirarch, including the 3.5 Books of Fiends, and entire adventure series dealing with figures like Orcus and Lolth, we've really had little more than a couple of *sentences* about 'arch-angels' or Ragathiel or whomever.
They are pretty much starting from scratch, compared to entire articles worth of text on nobodies like Zuggtmoy, so it's probably for the best that they start small, and grow the notion more organically, than just pump out a bunch of stuff on Agathion or Azata, for instance, about which we know shockingly little, or Garuda and Peri, about which we know even less!
Ever since the 1st Edition Monster Manual (and later expanded upon MMII, articles in Dragon Magazine like "The Politics of Hell" and "The Nine Hells Revisited", and even later Manual of the Planes) the Archfiends and Princes of the Abyss have captured our imagination (and many an unwary adventurer) and their schemes and plots are the stuff of epic adventures. They are as iconic as they come in a hobby filled with sacred cows (maybe 'profane cows' in this case).
Even as a young teen I remember I could easily recite the names of the respective rulers of the the layers of Hell (Tiamat had the first layer as her playground!) and the names of the very layers themselves. And while the names of the layers of the Abyss were not heavily charted then, I could still remember each of the Demon Princes and lords, their abilities, their hit points etc. (Anthranxus the Onidaemon, I always thought was quite powerful because he ruled not only layers of Planes but was master of no less than THREE actual Planes of existence!) and to this day those vile and dark fiends fuel my geek fix.
The "good guys" never got that treatment in the early days, or at least no where near the baddies got. It will take some doing to get the good guys caught up in the Outsider PR race, but I would love to see that happen.
And Set, the old Dame Zuggtmoy deserves some grognard respect, she's got pedigree and history in the game in spades (see Temple of Elemental Evil), and in the 80's, with Lolth and Finnish Kiputyttö, made life a living lower plane for my group of players.
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Erik and James are the resident demon experts, Todd has the daemons on lockdown, Wes seems to have taken the mantle of devil kind, Amber Scott has some big shoes to fill. I wish the author much luck there.
I do hope that some of the evocative names from the Bestiary get a callback ... Cernunnos the Stag Lord
That evocative Tolkienesque Empyreal definitely needs a write up!
I am getting this one for sure.