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How is this different then GameMastery Map Pack: Sewers?
And if it is different, will it work with GameMastery Map Pack: Sewers?
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How is this different then GameMastery Map Pack: Sewers?
And if it is different, will it work with GameMastery Map Pack: Sewers?
This Map Pack is going to be more modular than the Map Pack: Sewers. So they'll be a lot like Mines and Rooftops. You'll also be able to use it with a couple of the Flip-Mat we have planned that feature urban underground areas with access to the sewer system.
If I can make it work with Map Pack: Sewers, I will. My main concerns are to make them modular, expandable, and that they work with the Flip-Mats we have planned.
Sounds good. You really can't have too many sewer maps...
Okay, maybe you can.
How is this different then GameMastery Map Pack: Sewers?
And if it is different, will it work with GameMastery Map Pack: Sewers?
This Map Pack is going to be more modular than the Map Pack: Sewers. So they'll be a lot like Mines and Rooftops. You'll also be able to use it with a couple of the Flip-Mat we have planned that feature urban underground areas with access to the sewer system.
If I can make it work with Map Pack: Sewers, I will. My main concerns are to make them modular, expandable, and that they work with the Flip-Mats we have planned.
Does that mean you can use them in different combinations? That would be very cool.
Shame these weren't out when I was doing my urban campaign, at the time I couldn't find good sewer maps ANYWHERE. Will keep an eye out for these anyway. My old game store doesn't do game demos anymore but if I find another one that does, sewer fights are always great for RPG demos.
Does that mean you can use them in different combinations? That would be very cool.
Shame these weren't out when I was doing my urban campaign, at the time I couldn't find good sewer maps ANYWHERE. Will keep an eye out for these anyway. My old game store doesn't do game demos anymore but if I find another one that does, sewer fights are always great for RPG demos.
That's exactly what it means.
I know your frustration...though the sewer tiles that WotC put out are pretty good...but then Jason Bulmahn designed those (even though the packages says someone else did) and Jason *kinda* knows what he is doing.
Don't tell him I said that. ;)
Cover image and product description updated to final.
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Indeed you can. I've enjoyed my map subscription so far but if we are going to start re-treading the classics then I might cancel. Don't get me wrong, these look very nice but I don't need them.
Yeah, I also have the original Sewers map pack and can't see what this really gives me that I don't already have.
I would have been nice if a few of the map cards had been used to make up a larger lair as part of the sewers, that would have given me something different at least.
I can see being disappointed with map packs that are too similar (I too have the original Sewers), I find the new format so vastly superior that I don't mind.
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How is this different then GameMastery Map Pack: Sewers?
And if it is different, will it work with GameMastery Map Pack: Sewers?
This Map Pack is going to be more modular than the Map Pack: Sewers. So they'll be a lot like Mines and Rooftops. You'll also be able to use it with a couple of the Flip-Mat we have planned that feature urban underground areas with access to the sewer system.
If I can make it work with Map Pack: Sewers, I will. My main concerns are to make them modular, expandable, and that they work with the Flip-Mats we have planned.
Map Pack - Sewer System:
Simply Awesome. Buy *three* copies with complete confidence. (And yes, I have three copies of the original Sewers map packs as well - but only because they were on sale during the 10th anniv sale.)
SRM's approach to Map Packs is the best thing to happen to the GameMastery Map Pack line since the product line started (and yes, I'm well aware that's saying something).
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I actually didn't like the first sewer pack because the rooms were too oddly shaped. I'm much happier with this set because it looks a little more generic (aka - reusable). Plus the new coating and transitions to other maps... I'm totally happy with a new sewer set!
Simply Awesome. Buy *three* copies with complete confidence. (And yes, I have three copies of the original Sewers map packs as well - but only because they were on sale during the 10th anniv sale.)
SRM's approach to Map Packs is the best thing to happen to the GameMastery Map Pack line since the product line started (and yes, I'm well aware that's saying something).
Why thank you, sir. I'm blushing. :)
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Simply Awesome. Buy *three* copies with complete confidence. (And yes, I have three copies of the original Sewers map packs as well - but only because they were on sale during the 10th anniv sale.)
SRM's approach to Map Packs is the best thing to happen to the GameMastery Map Pack line since the product line started (and yes, I'm well aware that's saying something).
+1
There's a reason I've doubled up my maps subscription :)
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When do the generic storage boxes become available? I thought I remember Erik mentioning something along these lines that a generic version would be made to store previous Map-Packs with the ability to write on them. Am I mistaken?
We'll have those in a couple of months, I believe.
If you look at your my subscriptions page. (Not sure if that link will work but, if not, you'll find a link at the top of the page).
It shows the next few shipments together with estimates for when they will go. Your credit card is likely to be authorised later this week and then charged (when your product ships) by the end of the week after that - ie by the 15th.
Occasionally, it takes them more than a week to get through their subscription runs and if you have some preordered items or sundry items you've elected to 'ship with my next subscription' they can sometimes mess things around too, although they generally go through without a hitch, in my experience.
The PDF versions of the Map Packs used to include the front and back sheets, which was convenient. In fact, you could download the tiles as a "Single File" or as "Assembled Maps".
At the moment, the download made available for Sewer System consists of the Single File option only, without the front and back sheets. Could this be fixed, please?
(If this is no longer possible because of the new box format, may I suggest providing the PDF for the box as a separate file, as you do already for the Pathfinder Campaign Setting Map Folios? Oh, and what about providing the covers for the Flip-mats too?)
The PDF versions of the Map Packs used to include the front and back sheets, which was convenient. In fact, you could download the tiles as a "Single File" or as "Assembled Maps".
At the moment, the download made available for Sewer System consists of the Single File option only, without the front and back sheets. Could this be fixed, please?
(If this is no longer possible because of the new box format, may I suggest providing the PDF for the box as a separate file, as you do already for the Pathfinder Campaign Setting Map Folios? Oh, and what about providing the covers for the Flip-mats too?)
The Cover pages have been added to the PDF (you should have just received an email alerting you of the update). Lately the Map Pack files have been made in such a way that there is not a "set" assembled map, which is why there is only one download option.
Chris, when there are not "set" assembled maps, the individual map tiles have previously each been made into separate documents and bundled into the second zip. The Mines, Ice Caverns, and Vehicles packs are recent examples of this.
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When do the generic storage boxes become available? I thought I remember Erik mentioning something along these lines that a generic version would be made to store previous Map-Packs with the ability to write on them. Am I mistaken?We'll have those in a couple of months, I believe.
I thought I would provide some feedback on the new "storage boxes". It's probably too early to know whether this will be a common problem and too late to do anything about it if it is. Nonetheless...
Having just received this, I opened the pack up to look through it (very nice job, whoever designed and drew it - stephen?) before sliding them back in and sticking them on the shelf. I wasn't particularly careful, nor particularly rough when I slid them back and didn't notice anything amiss until I slid them out again. At that point, it became apparent that the illustrated surface of the top tile had "snagged" on the box when I reinserted the tiles and folded back on itself, separating from the card stock slightly and leaving a white, folded-over corner (they were all definitely unblemished on my first look through, so the damage was definitely me and not some factory/shipping issue).
It has no impact in this set (the corner is just the black, non-map part) and I can probably avoid it happening by paying more attention when reinserting the tiles. Nonetheless, if the box was marginally larger (like a millimetre or two) it might minimise the risk of damage from taking the tiles in and out of their cover, without reducing the strength of the box (and without costing much more).
Anyhow, the boxes are a great idea and perhaps it will be a rare occurrence. Figured I'd pass it on anyway.
Couple of questions
I am assuming since these can be configured in many ways you did not make an Assembled download for the PDF?
Now that you have gotten rid of Gamemastery for the maps and Cards, shouldn't they be moved to the Pathfinder section of the store?
Yes and yes. However, the migration of GameMastery items is a tad more complicated than it would first appear. It is on the to-do list.
I thought I would provide some feedback on the new "storage boxes". It's probably too early to know whether this will be a common problem and too late to do anything about it if it is. Nonetheless...Having just received this, I opened the pack up to look through it (very nice job, whoever designed and drew it - stephen?) before sliding them back in and sticking them on the shelf. I wasn't particularly careful, nor particularly rough when I slid them back and didn't notice anything amiss until I slid them out again. At that point, it became apparent that the illustrated surface of the top tile had "snagged" on the box when I reinserted the tiles and folded back on itself, separating from the card stock slightly and leaving a white, folded-over corner (they were all definitely unblemished on my first look through, so the damage was definitely me and not some factory/shipping issue).
It has no impact in this set (the corner is just the black, non-map part) and I can probably avoid it happening by paying more attention when reinserting the tiles. Nonetheless, if the box was marginally larger (like a millimetre or two) it might minimise the risk of damage from taking the tiles in and out of their cover, without reducing the strength of the box (and without costing much more).
Anyhow, the boxes are a great idea and perhaps it will be a rare occurrence. Figured I'd pass it on anyway.
Hmmm. Thanks for the feedback. I'll pass it on. We are always looking to improve our product, especially right after a new format is released, and your experience (and anyone else's experience) with the new scheme is very welcome.
And just for the record, I design the maps (i.e. draw the initial maps and tell the artist where to put what), but Jason Engle makes them look prettier than I ever could. I'm decent at cartography, but Jason's a pro. Anyhow, I'm glad you like the maps. I'm sure Jason is too. :)
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Hmmm. Thanks for the feedback. I'll pass it on. We are always looking to improve our product, especially right after a new format is released, and your experience (and anyone else's experience) with the new scheme is very welcome.
And just for the record, I design the maps (i.e. draw the initial maps and tell the artist where to put what), but Jason Engle makes them look prettier than I ever could. I'm decent at cartography, but Jason's a pro. Anyhow, I'm glad you like the maps. I'm sure Jason is too. :)
No worries. Hopefully it's a rare occurence (or the boxes can be re-specced with minimal fuss). As I said, I do think it would have been avoidable with a little effort - I was clearly too keen. :)
The last few map packs/flip-mats have really sparked my imagination (the main point for me). I particularly liked the shrine/altar.