paizo.com Recent Posts in Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Artifacts & Legends (PFRPG) Discussionpaizo.com Recent Posts in Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Artifacts & Legends (PFRPG) Discussion2023-06-06T19:04:29Z2023-06-06T19:04:29ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Artifacts & Legends (PFRPG)gboneheadhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy8u7k/discuss&page=5?Pathfinder-Campaign-Setting-Artifacts-Legends#2382012-12-20T18:21:45Z2012-12-20T18:21:45Z<p>@Godu: I'm truly sorry you feel that way. I totally get your point, and you're absolutely right that it repeats material, but many people (myself among them) welcome expansions of the material such as this, and are glad they're published. In my mind, this is along the lines of a Revisited book for artifacts and the like.</p>
<p>Heck, I'm still hoping for a Spell Compendium and Rules Compendium-like books. I remember when WoTC came out with the Rules Compendium I was disgusted at them republishing the material ... but then I got it and it was awesome - all those bits previously scattered about were all collected in one place.</p>@Godu: I'm truly sorry you feel that way. I totally get your point, and you're absolutely right that it repeats material, but many people (myself among them) welcome expansions of the material such as this, and are glad they're published. In my mind, this is along the lines of a Revisited book for artifacts and the like.
Heck, I'm still hoping for a Spell Compendium and Rules Compendium-like books. I remember when WoTC came out with the Rules Compendium I was disgusted at them republishing...gbonehead2012-12-20T18:21:45ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Artifacts & Legends (PFRPG)Goduhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy8u7k/discuss&page=5?Pathfinder-Campaign-Setting-Artifacts-Legends#2372012-12-07T20:36:00Z2012-12-07T20:36:00Z<p>Tells (and others) </p>
<p>This book reprints material from previously published books. The new additions are VERY limited. I agree that I can use an artifact anywhere I want to but I want NEW artifacts not ones I can go back and find on my own. </p>
<p>Paizo essentially asked me to pay for material I already own and use. I would have welcomed a few pages of indexing for existing artifacts and stats for those that were lacking but unfortunately most of the material in the book is a reprint of what I have already seen. </p>
<p>My opinion is that this is a book that is put out for those who do not get the Adventure Paths (or want to get them) to flesh out the world for them. In that frame this is an excellent book. </p>
<p>But to ask those of us who are subscribers to accept material that we already have; that we have already used or plan on using; have already updated and/or created our own stats for is... not productive. </p>
<p>This is all that I am going to say on the matter. </p>
<p>Thank you.</p>Tells (and others)
This book reprints material from previously published books. The new additions are VERY limited. I agree that I can use an artifact anywhere I want to but I want NEW artifacts not ones I can go back and find on my own.
Paizo essentially asked me to pay for material I already own and use. I would have welcomed a few pages of indexing for existing artifacts and stats for those that were lacking but unfortunately most of the material in the book is a reprint of what I have...Godu2012-12-07T20:36:00ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Artifacts & Legends (PFRPG)Robert G. McCrearyhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy8u7k/discuss&page=5?Pathfinder-Campaign-Setting-Artifacts-Legends#2362012-12-07T16:45:25Z2012-12-07T16:45:25Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Lucent wrote:</div><blockquote> What adventure path did the Scepter of Ages feature in? I was unaware it had been used before. </blockquote><p>The Scepter of Ages has not appeared in any Adventure Path. Until <i>Artifacts and Legends</i>, only its name had been mentioned (along with a few more artifacts in the book), as one of the artifacts recovered by the legendary Pathfinder Durvin Gest from the "Chamber of Heaven" in Ninshabur.Lucent wrote:What adventure path did the Scepter of Ages feature in? I was unaware it had been used before.
The Scepter of Ages has not appeared in any Adventure Path. Until Artifacts and Legends, only its name had been mentioned (along with a few more artifacts in the book), as one of the artifacts recovered by the legendary Pathfinder Durvin Gest from the "Chamber of Heaven" in Ninshabur.Robert G. McCreary2012-12-07T16:45:25ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Artifacts & Legends (PFRPG)Telshttps://paizo.com/products/btpy8u7k/discuss&page=5?Pathfinder-Campaign-Setting-Artifacts-Legends#2352012-12-07T16:42:46Z2012-12-07T16:42:46Z<p>Godu, many of the artifacts in this book are new. For instance, 5 of the Seven Swords of Sins never had stats, and Asheia, the Sword of Lust, only had half the stats it has now.</p>
<p>Many items in this book are brand new, and to claim that you already had the stats is a lie. There are only a few of the Artifacts that are tied to an Adventure path, most of them can be used freely wherever you wish. Hell, any of them can be used wherever or whenever you wish as a GM. Just because an artifact is tied to an adventure path, doesn't mean it can only be found in said adventure path. As a GM, you can do whatever you want with anything you please.</p>Godu, many of the artifacts in this book are new. For instance, 5 of the Seven Swords of Sins never had stats, and Asheia, the Sword of Lust, only had half the stats it has now.
Many items in this book are brand new, and to claim that you already had the stats is a lie. There are only a few of the Artifacts that are tied to an Adventure path, most of them can be used freely wherever you wish. Hell, any of them can be used wherever or whenever you wish as a GM. Just because an artifact is...Tels2012-12-07T16:42:46ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Artifacts & Legends (PFRPG)Lucent (alias of Robert Brookes, RPG Superstar 2014 Top 4)https://paizo.com/products/btpy8u7k/discuss&page=5?Pathfinder-Campaign-Setting-Artifacts-Legends#2342013-04-30T23:48:43Z2012-12-07T16:29:31Z<p>What adventure path did the Scepter of Ages feature in? I was unaware it had been used before.</p>What adventure path did the Scepter of Ages feature in? I was unaware it had been used before.Lucent (alias of Robert Brookes, RPG Superstar 2014 Top 4)2012-12-07T16:29:31ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Artifacts & Legends (PFRPG)Goduhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy8u7k/discuss&page=5?Pathfinder-Campaign-Setting-Artifacts-Legends#2332012-12-07T15:57:50Z2012-12-07T15:57:50Z<p>So... I thought about this post and decided to do it here instead of in a review of the product. </p>
<p>I thought that the production standards of the product where fine. </p>
<p>However, I am annoyed that Paizo decided to write a book on Artifacts and fill it with reprints of what they have already published. I was looking forward to seeing some new and interesting items that I could use in unexplored places NOT items tied to specific Adventure Paths which I had already seen. </p>
<p>From my perspective this was a book of fluff... I already had the crunch and the settings the artifacts were used in. To be asked to pay for this as part of my support of the Campaign Setting and Paizo is... disheartening... </p>
<p>I also am not a fan of the Metagame Artifacts. These artifacts essentially replace GM-Player communication with... pink elephants. Why not just ask your GM to allow you to create a new character or reformat the one you're playing; why the need to introduce an artifact... And if a GM and a group cannot cover for a player when they cannot attend a game... Sigh! </p>
<p>Thank you!</p>So... I thought about this post and decided to do it here instead of in a review of the product.
I thought that the production standards of the product where fine.
However, I am annoyed that Paizo decided to write a book on Artifacts and fill it with reprints of what they have already published. I was looking forward to seeing some new and interesting items that I could use in unexplored places NOT items tied to specific Adventure Paths which I had already seen.
From my perspective this...Godu2012-12-07T15:57:50ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Artifacts & Legends (PFRPG)F. Wesley Schneider (Contributor)https://paizo.com/products/btpy8u7k/discuss&page=5?Pathfinder-Campaign-Setting-Artifacts-Legends#2322012-11-02T01:30:14Z2012-11-02T01:30:14Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Wiki Minister wrote:</div><blockquote><p> This is a lovely book: thank you. One of those that didn't at first sight look as though it was going to be particularly interesting - a list of powerful magic items unlikely to be used in many campaigns. In fact, it is crammed full of back story and Golarion usefulness as well as suggesting how to incorporate such power in a game.</p>
<p>I particularly like the little touches, for instance, the date associated with <i>Saint Cuthbert's Mace</i>, which I have referenced on the <a href="http://www.pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Saint_Cuthbert%27s_Mace" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">PathfinderWiki</a>. </blockquote><p>Nice! Glad you're digging it man!Wiki Minister wrote:This is a lovely book: thank you. One of those that didn't at first sight look as though it was going to be particularly interesting - a list of powerful magic items unlikely to be used in many campaigns. In fact, it is crammed full of back story and Golarion usefulness as well as suggesting how to incorporate such power in a game.
I particularly like the little touches, for instance, the date associated with Saint Cuthbert's Mace, which I have referenced on the...F. Wesley Schneider (Contributor)2012-11-02T01:30:14ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Artifacts & Legends (PFRPG)Wiki Minister (alias of Fleanetha)https://paizo.com/products/btpy8u7k/discuss&page=5?Pathfinder-Campaign-Setting-Artifacts-Legends#2312012-11-01T05:34:41Z2012-11-01T05:34:41Z<p>This is a lovely book: thank you. One of those that didn't at first sight look as though it was going to be particularly interesting - a list of powerful magic items unlikely to be used in many campaigns. In fact, it is crammed full of back story and Golarion usefulness as well as suggesting how to incorporate such power in a game.</p>
<p>I particularly like the little touches, for instance, the date associated with <i>Saint Cuthbert's Mace</i>, which I have referenced on the <a href="http://www.pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Saint_Cuthbert%27s_Mace" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">PathfinderWiki</a>.</p>This is a lovely book: thank you. One of those that didn't at first sight look as though it was going to be particularly interesting - a list of powerful magic items unlikely to be used in many campaigns. In fact, it is crammed full of back story and Golarion usefulness as well as suggesting how to incorporate such power in a game.
I particularly like the little touches, for instance, the date associated with Saint Cuthbert's Mace, which I have referenced on the PathfinderWiki.Wiki Minister (alias of Fleanetha)2012-11-01T05:34:41ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Artifacts & Legends (PFRPG)James Jacobs (Creative Director)https://paizo.com/products/btpy8u7k/discuss&page=5?Pathfinder-Campaign-Setting-Artifacts-Legends#2302012-10-11T17:15:14Z2012-10-11T17:15:14Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Mechalibur wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Um, so I'm probably looking into this too much, but on the Bottle of the Bound page, it says there are rumors it was sold of for "an emperor's ransom in red gemstones."</p>
<p>Don't the Denizens of Leng pay for everything using rubies? (AP #15)</p>
<p>Edit: Under the Seven Swords of Sin, it says that Krune was the Runelord of Gluttony. Shouldn't that be Zutha? </blockquote><p>Yes, the denizens of Leng pay for things using rubies. That's one of many elements we picked up from Lovecraft.
<p>And yeah, Zutha's the runelord of Gluttony. Krune is sloth.</p>Mechalibur wrote:Um, so I'm probably looking into this too much, but on the Bottle of the Bound page, it says there are rumors it was sold of for "an emperor's ransom in red gemstones."
Don't the Denizens of Leng pay for everything using rubies? (AP #15)
Edit: Under the Seven Swords of Sin, it says that Krune was the Runelord of Gluttony. Shouldn't that be Zutha?
Yes, the denizens of Leng pay for things using rubies. That's one of many elements we picked up from Lovecraft. And yeah,...James Jacobs (Creative Director)2012-10-11T17:15:14ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Artifacts & Legends (PFRPG)dunebugghttps://paizo.com/products/btpy8u7k/discuss&page=5?Pathfinder-Campaign-Setting-Artifacts-Legends#2292012-10-11T17:08:30Z2012-10-11T17:08:30Z<p>Hmm, the Seven sword of Sin are amazingly badass. My personal favorite is Wrath.</p>
<p>The only sword I'm a touch confused on its abilities is the Sword of Pride. It feels a little more like the powers revolved around high-level illusions that actual Pride. Why does it need to be spell storing? Why would somebody so prideful bother feinting?? They are so awesome in melee they shouldnt have ANY trouble striking their opponent.</p>Hmm, the Seven sword of Sin are amazingly badass. My personal favorite is Wrath.
The only sword I'm a touch confused on its abilities is the Sword of Pride. It feels a little more like the powers revolved around high-level illusions that actual Pride. Why does it need to be spell storing? Why would somebody so prideful bother feinting?? They are so awesome in melee they shouldnt have ANY trouble striking their opponent.dunebugg2012-10-11T17:08:30ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Artifacts & Legends (PFRPG)F. Wesley Schneider (Contributor)https://paizo.com/products/btpy8u7k/discuss&page=5?Pathfinder-Campaign-Setting-Artifacts-Legends#2282012-10-02T18:43:21Z2012-10-02T18:43:21Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Mechalibur wrote:</div><blockquote> Edit: Under the Seven Swords of Sin, it says that Krune was the Runelord of Gluttony. Shouldn't that be Zutha? </blockquote><p>It should. That's just a typo. This is not a place we would ret-con or revise the titles of named characters. Good catch!Mechalibur wrote:Edit: Under the Seven Swords of Sin, it says that Krune was the Runelord of Gluttony. Shouldn't that be Zutha?
It should. That's just a typo. This is not a place we would ret-con or revise the titles of named characters. Good catch!F. Wesley Schneider (Contributor)2012-10-02T18:43:21ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Artifacts & Legends (PFRPG)Enlight_Bystandhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy8u7k/discuss&page=5?Pathfinder-Campaign-Setting-Artifacts-Legends#2272012-09-29T21:31:47Z2012-09-29T21:31:47Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Tels wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Atrocious wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Tels wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Atrocious wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">F. Wesley Schneider wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Atrocious wrote:</div><blockquote> Forgive me if this has been asked before, but The Invidian Eye (pg. 29) says that to destroy it, it has to be offered to 100 individuals who reject it, if someone accepts the Eye, does that reset the count and we have to start over, or is it 100 individuals in total? </blockquote><p>Ooooh.
<p>Personal Answer: Depends on how hardass a GM you wanta be. :)</p>
<p>More Reasoned Answer: I starts over. Otherwise it would just have to be rejected 100 times in its existence and when the PCs get it it might already be at 99 and then they only have to find one person to reject it. That's the super extreme example, but it feels more appropriately epic if you have to track down 100 people in a row with the gumption not to take it. </blockquote>Yeah, I figured it would be 100 in a row. Guess you need to find a monastery filled with monks who have sworn a vow of poverty... </blockquote><p>Not really all that hard to destroy....
<p>"Here's 10 gp, walk through that door, and reject the offer given to you. Collect an additional 10 gp on the way out. If you accept the offer, we will kill you."</p>
<p>Just gather a bunch of peasants and repeat the above to them. Artifact destroyed. They are free willed, and they know nothing of the Eye's powers, and they rejected it. Probably one of the easiest Artifacts to destroy, really. </blockquote>"Take our money or we kill you", coercion does kind of conflict with the whole free will thing. </blockquote><p>It's not so much 'take our money or die' as it is 'I'm giving you money for a service, if you don't want to do it, fine, leave. But if you accept the offer inside, you will die." They can choose to take the money or not, they don't have to go inside. It's all their choice to proceed with it. Still they're free will, but free will doesn't mean you have to know all the facts.
<p>If it had, instead, said something like free will and no coercion of any sort, that'd be different. As it is, there is nothing... </blockquote><p>I don't think there would be any reason to threaten them not to reject. Just saying 'we'll know if you reject it' should be sufficient.Tels wrote:Atrocious wrote: Tels wrote: Atrocious wrote: F. Wesley Schneider wrote: Atrocious wrote: Forgive me if this has been asked before, but The Invidian Eye (pg. 29) says that to destroy it, it has to be offered to 100 individuals who reject it, if someone accepts the Eye, does that reset the count and we have to start over, or is it 100 individuals in total?
Ooooh. Personal Answer: Depends on how hardass a GM you wanta be. :)
More Reasoned Answer: I starts over. Otherwise it would...Enlight_Bystand2012-09-29T21:31:47ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Artifacts & Legends (PFRPG)Gorbaczhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy8u7k/discuss&page=5?Pathfinder-Campaign-Setting-Artifacts-Legends#2262012-09-29T21:28:56Z2012-09-29T21:28:56Z<p>Thanks, Wes, for getting Cadrilkasta's color correct. :)</p>Thanks, Wes, for getting Cadrilkasta's color correct. :)Gorbacz2012-09-29T21:28:56ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Artifacts & Legends (PFRPG)Telshttps://paizo.com/products/btpy8u7k/discuss&page=5?Pathfinder-Campaign-Setting-Artifacts-Legends#2252012-09-29T20:45:02Z2012-09-29T20:45:02Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Atrocious wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Tels wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Atrocious wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">F. Wesley Schneider wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Atrocious wrote:</div><blockquote> Forgive me if this has been asked before, but The Invidian Eye (pg. 29) says that to destroy it, it has to be offered to 100 individuals who reject it, if someone accepts the Eye, does that reset the count and we have to start over, or is it 100 individuals in total? </blockquote><p>Ooooh.
<p>Personal Answer: Depends on how hardass a GM you wanta be. :)</p>
<p>More Reasoned Answer: I starts over. Otherwise it would just have to be rejected 100 times in its existence and when the PCs get it it might already be at 99 and then they only have to find one person to reject it. That's the super extreme example, but it feels more appropriately epic if you have to track down 100 people in a row with the gumption not to take it. </blockquote>Yeah, I figured it would be 100 in a row. Guess you need to find a monastery filled with monks who have sworn a vow of poverty... </blockquote><p>Not really all that hard to destroy....
<p>"Here's 10 gp, walk through that door, and reject the offer given to you. Collect an additional 10 gp on the way out. If you accept the offer, we will kill you."</p>
<p>Just gather a bunch of peasants and repeat the above to them. Artifact destroyed. They are free willed, and they know nothing of the Eye's powers, and they rejected it. Probably one of the easiest Artifacts to destroy, really. </blockquote>"Take our money or we kill you", coercion does kind of conflict with the whole free will thing. </blockquote><p>It's not so much 'take our money or die' as it is 'I'm giving you money for a service, if you don't want to do it, fine, leave. But if you accept the offer inside, you will die." They can choose to take the money or not, they don't have to go inside. It's all their choice to proceed with it. Still they're free will, but free will doesn't mean you have to know all the facts.
<p>If it had, instead, said something like free will and no coercion of any sort, that'd be different. As it is, there is nothing stopping you from paying people to reject the offer.</p>Atrocious wrote:Tels wrote: Atrocious wrote: F. Wesley Schneider wrote: Atrocious wrote: Forgive me if this has been asked before, but The Invidian Eye (pg. 29) says that to destroy it, it has to be offered to 100 individuals who reject it, if someone accepts the Eye, does that reset the count and we have to start over, or is it 100 individuals in total?
Ooooh. Personal Answer: Depends on how hardass a GM you wanta be. :)
More Reasoned Answer: I starts over. Otherwise it would just have to...Tels2012-09-29T20:45:02ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Artifacts & Legends (PFRPG)Stratageminihttps://paizo.com/products/btpy8u7k/discuss&page=5?Pathfinder-Campaign-Setting-Artifacts-Legends#2242012-09-29T20:42:37Z2012-09-29T20:42:37Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">F. Wesley Schneider wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">MMCJawa wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Ok...I got to ask:</p>
<p>Is the Song of Extinction a Penny Arcade reference? </blockquote>Not that I'm aware of (and certainly not on my part). Got a link? </blockquote><p>I think he's talking about this <a href="http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2006/04/10" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Comic</a>.F. Wesley Schneider wrote:MMCJawa wrote:Ok...I got to ask:
Is the Song of Extinction a Penny Arcade reference?
Not that I'm aware of (and certainly not on my part). Got a link? I think he's talking about this Comic.Stratagemini2012-09-29T20:42:37ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Artifacts & Legends (PFRPG)Atrocioushttps://paizo.com/products/btpy8u7k/discuss&page=5?Pathfinder-Campaign-Setting-Artifacts-Legends#2232012-09-29T18:58:10Z2012-09-29T18:58:10Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Tels wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Atrocious wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">F. Wesley Schneider wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Atrocious wrote:</div><blockquote> Forgive me if this has been asked before, but The Invidian Eye (pg. 29) says that to destroy it, it has to be offered to 100 individuals who reject it, if someone accepts the Eye, does that reset the count and we have to start over, or is it 100 individuals in total? </blockquote><p>Ooooh.
<p>Personal Answer: Depends on how hardass a GM you wanta be. :)</p>
<p>More Reasoned Answer: I starts over. Otherwise it would just have to be rejected 100 times in its existence and when the PCs get it it might already be at 99 and then they only have to find one person to reject it. That's the super extreme example, but it feels more appropriately epic if you have to track down 100 people in a row with the gumption not to take it. </blockquote>Yeah, I figured it would be 100 in a row. Guess you need to find a monastery filled with monks who have sworn a vow of poverty... </blockquote><p>Not really all that hard to destroy....
<p>"Here's 10 gp, walk through that door, and reject the offer given to you. Collect an additional 10 gp on the way out. If you accept the offer, we will kill you."</p>
<p>Just gather a bunch of peasants and repeat the above to them. Artifact destroyed. They are free willed, and they know nothing of the Eye's powers, and they rejected it. Probably one of the easiest Artifacts to destroy, really. </blockquote><p>"Take our money or we kill you", coercion does kind of conflict with the whole free will thing.Tels wrote:Atrocious wrote: F. Wesley Schneider wrote: Atrocious wrote: Forgive me if this has been asked before, but The Invidian Eye (pg. 29) says that to destroy it, it has to be offered to 100 individuals who reject it, if someone accepts the Eye, does that reset the count and we have to start over, or is it 100 individuals in total?
Ooooh. Personal Answer: Depends on how hardass a GM you wanta be. :)
More Reasoned Answer: I starts over. Otherwise it would just have to be rejected 100...Atrocious2012-09-29T18:58:10ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Artifacts & Legends (PFRPG)MMCJawahttps://paizo.com/products/btpy8u7k/discuss&page=5?Pathfinder-Campaign-Setting-Artifacts-Legends#2222012-09-29T15:45:02Z2012-09-29T15:45:02Z<p>the comic is here: </p>
<p>http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2006/04/10</p>
<p>Whenever I read Song of Extinction I somehow think of "Song that Ends the Earth"</p>the comic is here:
http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2006/04/10
Whenever I read Song of Extinction I somehow think of "Song that Ends the Earth"MMCJawa2012-09-29T15:45:02ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Artifacts & Legends (PFRPG)Telshttps://paizo.com/products/btpy8u7k/discuss&page=5?Pathfinder-Campaign-Setting-Artifacts-Legends#2212012-09-29T13:42:58Z2012-09-29T13:42:58Z<p>By the way, Mr. Schneider, I have to say, I thoroughly enjoyed reading the Metagame Artifacts, I'm not sure if I'll ever use them, but I found them highly amusing.</p>
<p>But more to the point, I <i>loved</i> the Seven Swords entry. I read a post in James' thread saying the swords weren't actually going to be stated up, and I was very disappointed. Enough that I couldn't wait for it to hit the shelves up here in Alaska and had to buy it now. I'm glad James was incorrect on this.</p>
<p>I've been looking forward to this book since you <a href="http://paizo.com/forums/dmtz58c5?7-Swords-of-sin" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">commented in another thread</a>. I really love what you did with the Seven Swords; many of the abilities you created I never would have thought of. My favorite has to be Shin-Tari, Sword of Sloth. I can't help but picture a guy mowing into mooks with that blade in an open field or a stadium, and just Dimension Dooring everyone he hits straight up into the air and waiting for them to plummet back down.</p>
<p>This is probably my favorite book from the Golarion setting I own. Great Job.</p>
<p><b>[Edit]</b> A song comes to mind for Shin-Tari...</p>
<p>Body parts keep fallin' on my head
<br />
And just like the ground my clothes are stained red
<br />
I'm standing in a blood pit
<br />
Those body parts are fallin' on my head, they keep fallin'</p>
<p>So I did some talking with my mum
<br />
And I said I don't like how the washin's done
<br />
Clothes are looking rough
<br />
Those body parts are fallin' on my head, they keep fallin.....</p>By the way, Mr. Schneider, I have to say, I thoroughly enjoyed reading the Metagame Artifacts, I'm not sure if I'll ever use them, but I found them highly amusing.
But more to the point, I loved the Seven Swords entry. I read a post in James' thread saying the swords weren't actually going to be stated up, and I was very disappointed. Enough that I couldn't wait for it to hit the shelves up here in Alaska and had to buy it now. I'm glad James was incorrect on this.
I've been looking forward...Tels2012-09-29T13:42:58ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Artifacts & Legends (PFRPG)Telshttps://paizo.com/products/btpy8u7k/discuss&page=5?Pathfinder-Campaign-Setting-Artifacts-Legends#2202012-09-29T13:31:31Z2012-09-29T13:31:31Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Atrocious wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">F. Wesley Schneider wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Atrocious wrote:</div><blockquote> Forgive me if this has been asked before, but The Invidian Eye (pg. 29) says that to destroy it, it has to be offered to 100 individuals who reject it, if someone accepts the Eye, does that reset the count and we have to start over, or is it 100 individuals in total? </blockquote><p>Ooooh.
<p>Personal Answer: Depends on how hardass a GM you wanta be. :)</p>
<p>More Reasoned Answer: I starts over. Otherwise it would just have to be rejected 100 times in its existence and when the PCs get it it might already be at 99 and then they only have to find one person to reject it. That's the super extreme example, but it feels more appropriately epic if you have to track down 100 people in a row with the gumption not to take it. </blockquote>Yeah, I figured it would be 100 in a row. Guess you need to find a monastery filled with monks who have sworn a vow of poverty... </blockquote><p>Not really all that hard to destroy....
<p>"Here's 10 gp, walk through that door, and reject the offer given to you. Collect an additional 10 gp on the way out. If you accept the offer, we will kill you."</p>
<p>Just gather a bunch of peasants and repeat the above to them. Artifact destroyed. They are free willed, and they know nothing of the Eye's powers, and they rejected it. Probably one of the easiest Artifacts to destroy, really.</p>Atrocious wrote:F. Wesley Schneider wrote: Atrocious wrote: Forgive me if this has been asked before, but The Invidian Eye (pg. 29) says that to destroy it, it has to be offered to 100 individuals who reject it, if someone accepts the Eye, does that reset the count and we have to start over, or is it 100 individuals in total?
Ooooh. Personal Answer: Depends on how hardass a GM you wanta be. :)
More Reasoned Answer: I starts over. Otherwise it would just have to be rejected 100 times in its...Tels2012-09-29T13:31:31ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Artifacts & Legends (PFRPG)Atrocioushttps://paizo.com/products/btpy8u7k/discuss&page=5?Pathfinder-Campaign-Setting-Artifacts-Legends#2192012-09-29T12:59:34Z2012-09-29T12:59:34Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">F. Wesley Schneider wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Atrocious wrote:</div><blockquote> Forgive me if this has been asked before, but The Invidian Eye (pg. 29) says that to destroy it, it has to be offered to 100 individuals who reject it, if someone accepts the Eye, does that reset the count and we have to start over, or is it 100 individuals in total? </blockquote><p>Ooooh.
<p>Personal Answer: Depends on how hardass a GM you wanta be. :)</p>
<p>More Reasoned Answer: I starts over. Otherwise it would just have to be rejected 100 times in its existence and when the PCs get it it might already be at 99 and then they only have to find one person to reject it. That's the super extreme example, but it feels more appropriately epic if you have to track down 100 people in a row with the gumption not to take it. </blockquote><p>Yeah, I figured it would be 100 in a row. Guess you need to find a monastery filled with monks who have sworn a vow of poverty...F. Wesley Schneider wrote:Atrocious wrote: Forgive me if this has been asked before, but The Invidian Eye (pg. 29) says that to destroy it, it has to be offered to 100 individuals who reject it, if someone accepts the Eye, does that reset the count and we have to start over, or is it 100 individuals in total?
Ooooh. Personal Answer: Depends on how hardass a GM you wanta be. :)
More Reasoned Answer: I starts over. Otherwise it would just have to be rejected 100 times in its existence and...Atrocious2012-09-29T12:59:34ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Artifacts & Legends (PFRPG)Mechaliburhttps://paizo.com/products/btpy8u7k/discuss&page=5?Pathfinder-Campaign-Setting-Artifacts-Legends#2182012-09-29T03:49:34Z2012-09-29T03:49:34Z<p>Um, so I'm probably looking into this too much, but on the Bottle of the Bound page, it says there are rumors it was sold of for "an emperor's ransom in red gemstones."</p>
<p>Don't the Denizens of Leng pay for everything using rubies? (AP #15)</p>
<p>Edit: Under the Seven Swords of Sin, it says that Krune was the Runelord of Gluttony. Shouldn't that be Zutha?</p>Um, so I'm probably looking into this too much, but on the Bottle of the Bound page, it says there are rumors it was sold of for "an emperor's ransom in red gemstones."
Don't the Denizens of Leng pay for everything using rubies? (AP #15)
Edit: Under the Seven Swords of Sin, it says that Krune was the Runelord of Gluttony. Shouldn't that be Zutha?Mechalibur2012-09-29T03:49:34ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Artifacts & Legends (PFRPG)F. Wesley Schneider (Contributor)https://paizo.com/products/btpy8u7k/discuss&page=5?Pathfinder-Campaign-Setting-Artifacts-Legends#2172012-09-29T02:23:55Z2012-09-29T02:23:55Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">MMCJawa wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Ok...I got to ask:</p>
<p>Is the Song of Extinction a Penny Arcade reference? </blockquote><p>Not that I'm aware of (and certainly not on my part). Got a link?MMCJawa wrote:Ok...I got to ask:
Is the Song of Extinction a Penny Arcade reference?
Not that I'm aware of (and certainly not on my part). Got a link?F. Wesley Schneider (Contributor)2012-09-29T02:23:55ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Artifacts & Legends (PFRPG)F. Wesley Schneider (Contributor)https://paizo.com/products/btpy8u7k/discuss&page=5?Pathfinder-Campaign-Setting-Artifacts-Legends#2162012-09-29T02:22:39Z2012-09-29T02:22:39Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Atrocious wrote:</div><blockquote> Forgive me if this has been asked before, but The Invidian Eye (pg. 29) says that to destroy it, it has to be offered to 100 individuals who reject it, if someone accepts the Eye, does that reset the count and we have to start over, or is it 100 individuals in total? </blockquote><p>Ooooh.
<p>Personal Answer: Depends on how hardass a GM you wanta be. :)</p>
<p>More Reasoned Answer: I starts over. Otherwise it would just have to be rejected 100 times in its existence and when the PCs get it it might already be at 99 and then they only have to find one person to reject it. That's the super extreme example, but it feels more appropriately epic if you have to track down 100 people in a row with the gumption not to take it.</p>Atrocious wrote:Forgive me if this has been asked before, but The Invidian Eye (pg. 29) says that to destroy it, it has to be offered to 100 individuals who reject it, if someone accepts the Eye, does that reset the count and we have to start over, or is it 100 individuals in total?
Ooooh. Personal Answer: Depends on how hardass a GM you wanta be. :)
More Reasoned Answer: I starts over. Otherwise it would just have to be rejected 100 times in its existence and when the PCs get it it might...F. Wesley Schneider (Contributor)2012-09-29T02:22:39ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Artifacts & Legends (PFRPG)F. Wesley Schneider (Contributor)https://paizo.com/products/btpy8u7k/discuss&page=5?Pathfinder-Campaign-Setting-Artifacts-Legends#2152012-09-29T02:18:38Z2012-09-29T02:18:38Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">doc the grey wrote:</div><blockquote>Crap... Well luckily people of the north is something my half-elven ice sorc player will need far more then I at the moment so with any luck he will get it and save me the trouble of having to figure out how to gain physical sustenance off of literature. </blockquote><p>Getting off topic, but I hope he likes comprehensive lists of every spell will the ice subtype in the game. I'll have to go tease the folks over on the <a href="http://paizo.com/products/btpy8t36?Pathfinder-Player-Companion-People-of-the-North" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">People of the North thread</a> with that. ;)doc the grey wrote:Crap... Well luckily people of the north is something my half-elven ice sorc player will need far more then I at the moment so with any luck he will get it and save me the trouble of having to figure out how to gain physical sustenance off of literature.
Getting off topic, but I hope he likes comprehensive lists of every spell will the ice subtype in the game. I'll have to go tease the folks over on the People of the North thread with that. ;)F. Wesley Schneider (Contributor)2012-09-29T02:18:38ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Artifacts & Legends (PFRPG)Atrocioushttps://paizo.com/products/btpy8u7k/discuss&page=5?Pathfinder-Campaign-Setting-Artifacts-Legends#2142012-09-28T21:15:31Z2012-09-28T21:15:31Z<p>Forgive me if this has been asked before, but The Invidian Eye (pg. 29) says that to destroy it, it has to be offered to 100 individuals who reject it, if someone accepts the Eye, does that reset the count and we have to start over, or is it 100 individuals in total?</p>Forgive me if this has been asked before, but The Invidian Eye (pg. 29) says that to destroy it, it has to be offered to 100 individuals who reject it, if someone accepts the Eye, does that reset the count and we have to start over, or is it 100 individuals in total?Atrocious2012-09-28T21:15:31Z