And subscribed, thankyou for sorting out the bundled delivery so quickly.

I just went for one copy of each issue: will that mean I get the paizo.com cover or just a random one from the main 4 covers?

Begin your Pathfinder Comics Ongoing Subscription today to make sure you don't miss a single issue! We've worked with Dynamite to create a special paizo.com-exclusive cover for each issue of the Pathfinder comic, designed with Pathfinder super-fans in mind! Your Pathfinder Comics Ongoing Subscription will bring this exclusive release—not available in retail stores—direct to your mailbox.

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So yes, you receive the exclusive paizo.com cover.

I decided to go with the deluxe subscription as it gives me some flexibility in keeping some issues ‘complete’ as I probably I will be taking out the map tiles for at least a couple of them.

DaveMage wrote:

Not interested in a print subscription, but would be if there's ever an electronic one. I'd prefer to read this on iPad.

Dynamite distributes their electronic comics through ComiXology; they have apps for iOS, Android, and Kindle Fire.

Excellent - thanks!

Heh. Oh dont get me wrong - I'm getting the five copies of a deluxe subscription plus a spare paizo.com exclusive (to pull apart for the RPG stuff).

Hmm- didn´t think about that. Do you need to pull the comic apart to get the goodies out?

Joe Wells wrote:

Sorry to be dense, but how do I setup the subscription to get 2 copies of each issue? I don't see a way to change the quantity in the shopping cart.

For multiple subscriptions (other than the PF Battles line) you have to get Customer Service to do it for you. Just send them an email or post in the CS forum and they can set it up.

Ah! Thank you for your help.

I just checked, and my subscription defaulted to the 'Hold for Monthly Shipment'.

Thank you, Paizo, for setting it up that way. It speaks volumes to your commitment to your customers.

It's the eight incentive/special covers I'm thinking about - if this were to be a standard month, picking up those would mean I'd go from never having bought a comic before to an $800+ a month habit. (I have serious control issues. :p).

Steve, looking at the August 2012 Previews book which solicits issue 3 of the Pathfinder comic, they list 4 regular covers (by Matteo Scalera, Lucio Parrillo, Erik Jones, Tyler Walpole), and then they solicit 2 different retailer incentive covers:

They don't mention what quantities a retailer needs to order to get those two variants.

The Paizo variant would not be listed in Previews because it is only available here.

Black and white covers are just that - uncoloured versions of the regular cover. So in this case it would be the black and white version of the Scalera cover.

Virgin art covers are covers that do not have the logos or anything on the cover - it is just the art.

Other titles that Dynamite is soliciting are similar in having multiple covers and then variant covers.

I hope this is helpful.

Angus

Has the artist (or better yet the art) been announced for the Gencon Exclusive cover?

Thanks, armac. I appreciate that.

Has the artist (or better yet the art) been announced for the Gencon Exclusive cover?

They show the art and list the artist here

Winter_Born wrote:

Has the artist (or better yet the art) been announced for the Gencon Exclusive cover?

They show the art and list the artist here

Thankies, m'lady.

That is the most disturbing loincloth in the history of ever.

Hi there.
I do not know if this has been answered but will there be a digital release of the comics? Would be great to get it as part of the subscription.

DaveMage wrote:

Not interested in a print subscription, but would be if there's ever an electronic one. I'd prefer to read this on iPad.

Dynamite distributes their electronic comics through ComiXology; they have apps for iOS, Android, and Kindle Fire.

So no digital copy through Paizo.

Vic Wertz wrote:

DaveMage wrote:

Not interested in a print subscription, but would be if there's ever an electronic one. I'd prefer to read this on iPad.

Dynamite distributes their electronic comics through ComiXology; they have apps for iOS, Android, and Kindle Fire.

So no digital copy through Paizo.

Comixology is good though. I primarily use it on my iPad, but I have used it once or twice online as well.

Silly question - is it possible to do the subscription with one of the covers other than the exclusive one?

Thanks very much!

Wow..13 total covers for issue #1? Really?

And then there's this:

Please note that Dynamite will release additional extremely limited-edition covers each month for the Pathfinder comic. While these covers are available for purchase at paizo.com and subscribers may purchase them at a 15% discount, they are not included in either the Pathfinder Comics Ongoing Subscription or the Pathfinder Comics Deluxe Ongoing Subscriptions, and must be purchased separately.

Dynamite are milking this harder than Peter Jackson and The Hobbit.

Please note we've made some adjustments to the product schedule: "Hold for monthly" will now hold the comics to come with the September Paizo shipment, rather than holding the early August products to go with the comics.

Thank you for this. If I understand correctly: comics will never delay my normal Paizo subscription shipments. Sometimes I may get a comic late because it missed a Paizo shipment. All comics will be shipped in a normal Paizo subscription package; never separately.

This is what I want.

I have just subscribed.

Don't tell my wife.

J

It would be really fantastic to have an option to subscribe and still pick which of the covers to receive for each issue. I'm not really a collector, but I do prefer some of the covers (the Erik Jones and Lucio Parillo ones in particular) over the others. It would be nice to have a sub that would default to the Paizo.com exclusive cover, but allow me to swap out what I'd get for an individual issue.

I can definitely see how this would give Gary and his team nightmares, though, so I'll probably just bite the bullet and subscribe anyway :-P

Wow..13 total covers for issue #1? Really?

And then there's this:

Quote:

Please note that Dynamite will release additional extremely limited-edition covers each month for the Pathfinder comic. While these covers are available for purchase at paizo.com and subscribers may purchase them at a 15% discount, they are not included in either the Pathfinder Comics Ongoing Subscription or the Pathfinder Comics Deluxe Ongoing Subscriptions, and must be purchased separately.

Dynamite are milking this harder than Peter Jackson and The Hobbit.

To be fair, Dynamite does this with all of their titles. It's not a new tactic to target Paizo's customers. Not saying I like the practice, just that it's a precedent they set a long time ago.

OK< subscribed, that part was easy. THEN I saw THIS.

Is it the same as issue 1 from my subscription but with a special foil cover? Does it "include more than 10 pages of character profiles and Pathfinder RPG game statistics, plus an EXCLUSIVE removable, playable tactical map and poster" or do I need to order this in ADDITIOPN to issue #1 to get this extra content?

I'm guess ing by the "exclusive part it doesn't but this seems strange. I guess I ordere this and then start my subscription with #2? :-)

Thanks,

Is it the same as issue 1 from my subscription but with a special foil cover? Does it "include more than 10 pages of character profiles and Pathfinder RPG game statistics, plus an EXCLUSIVE removable, playable tactical map and poster" or do I need to order this in ADDITIOPN to issue #1 to get this extra content?

This is the version that subscribers will get, I believe

It has the same write-up that you quoted, so I think they all have the gaming material.

This is the version that subscribers will get, I believe

It has the same write-up that you quoted, so I think they all have the gaming material.

Ah, super, thanks! Really looking forward to this series!

Yes, the only difference whatsoever between the various editions are the covers. The interior features are all the same.

We discussed lots of ways to go about fulfilling subscriptions with the different covers in mind, and unfortunately we are just not equipped to sort things this minutely. It would cost way too much, which would end up costing you guys way too much, so the current arrangement is the best we can manage.

I really do not understand the griping about the extra optional covers. I am confused why these are bad. There existence will in no way impact my enjoyment of the single issue I am getting with my basic subscription. Why are they bad?

We discussed lots of ways to go about fulfilling subscriptions with the different covers in mind, and unfortunately we are just not equipped to sort things this minutely. It would cost way too much, which would end up costing you guys way too much, so the current arrangement is the best we can manage.

I, for one, appreciate the thought and effort!

Customer service is, i.e. consideration for your customers, is what will make or break any retail experience for me. Paizo has yet to show any lack of consideration for me as a customer.

Thank you for that!

Looking forward to my first issue.

I really do not understand the griping about the extra optional covers. I am confused why these are bad. There existence will in no way impact my enjoyment of the single issue I am getting with my basic subscription. Why are they bad?

Many collectors like to get ALL the covers. And even for a issue #1, 13 covers is excessive. Add to this the fact that apparently EVERY SINGLE ISSUE is going to have at least one alternate cover, and it's suddenly become a minimum of over 2x the price to collect this comic.

graywulfe wrote:

I really do not understand the griping about the extra optional covers. I am confused why these are bad. There existence will in no way impact my enjoyment of the single issue I am getting with my basic subscription. Why are they bad?

Many collectors like to get ALL the covers. And even for a issue #1, 13 covers is excessive. Add to this the fact that apparently EVERY SINGLE ISSUE is going to have at least one alternate cover, and it's suddenly become a minimum of over 2x the price to collect this comic.

I'm in that boat (although I've managed to cool my enthusiasm somewhat). I still dont quite see what the issue is though? "I'd like to buy everything you put out, but I can't afford too much so please put out less".

I'm not going to be able to justify buying one each of the 13 covers (though that was my initial inclination), but why should I begrudge someone who is that keen? It's not like the publisher is instead going to put out extra issues or anything.

It's actually 11 variant covers for issue #1 - 2 of those options that Paizo is selling are either a signed cover or a comic with a sketch, so the cover isn't a variant.

I'll tell you where my issue(s) lies:

#1, there's a couple factors for purchase going on here: buying just to read the story, or buying to collect. As Kthulhu mentioned, a lot of us are completist collectors. 11 covers for issue #1, at least 5 covers for issue #2 (and likely more), 7 confirmed covers for issue #3, etc. I think it's pretty much a given that, at least for the initial 6 issues, there will be 5 covers per issue, MINIMUM. I also think that, given how Dynamite has already marketed the book up to issue #3, and given their tendencies with all of their other books, there's going to be MORE than 5 covers per issue.

With the high price and low print numbers of those variants, it becomes a rather spendy proposition.

#2, It's kinda messed up for the retail trade. Comic retailers can't specify what cover they want. They order a specific number of comics, and if they're lucky, they get an even distribution. It's being advertised as 25% distribution (makes sense, 4 covers).

Here's the catch on that - if they've got 6 subscribers at their store, and they only want one copy of the comic, and they all want the same cover, either the retailer has to order 24 copies to ensure that they receive what the customers want (and getting stuck with a ton of issues unsold), or they have to tell the customer "sorry, can't do it" and risk losing customers.

Heck, just above, Paizo's already said "sorry, can't do it" with respect to specific covers other than the exclusive.

It's horrible. I'm not saying Dynamite is the only one doing it (IDW released 55 covers for Mars Attacks #1, and then put them all in a box set with an exclusive 56th cover. That's even worse than this, to be sure), but the whole concept is messed up.

I totally get that it's a luxury product. Before it's said, I get that I'm not "owed" anything. I get that one doesn't NEED to collect all of the covers, or even buy any of them, but that doesn't change the fact that it's not a retailer-friendly or customer-friendly practice.

#3, I think that this style of release/sale is unsustainable for the book in the long term. As someone excited to read the comic, I don't foresee it lasting very long, and I see "low sales" being used as an excuse for termination of the book/line.

Ultimately, we come to #4: I'm excited about a Pathfinder comic. While there's definitely overlap between the comics market and the RPG market, there's also a lot of comics buyers/readers who aren't in that overlap. This is a product that could draw them into it, but with the way it's being marketed, it risks turning folks away.

Now, #3 and #4, that's not my problem, financially, but as a player, I'd like to see all the folks we can get into this hobby, and this is a product that has a great potential to do so.

It's incredibly disappointing.

I've tempered a bit of my disappointment, however. I am subscribing to the exclusive cover via Paizo, with a duplicate copy being sent that I can tear apart for the game content.

I'll wait for the trade.

Sadly, I'm not confident there will be one.

I'll tell you where my issue(s) lies:

lots o' stuff

Heh. "Issue". ;) Thank you for the well-reasoned explanation. FWIW, I'm more optimistic about the line, because it's pulling in people like me. (I'm just waiting until I can choose to start an AP subscription with #61, so that I can restart my other subscriptions with the discount, and then have this one ship with them.)

When I start this subscription in a couple of weeks, it won't be the first comic that I ever bought -- but it will be the first title that I ever planned on getting each issue of. I'm going to pull out the map/poster from my one and only copy, so I won't say that I'm "collecting" it; but still, if there are enough people like me, then there will be very steady sales of the paizo.com exclusive cover.

If that isn't enough for Diamond to remain interested, then I hope that Paizo will look at Dark Horse next. They're right here in the Pacific Northwest! :)

Thank you for your answers. I will be honest that I still don't get the mindset and I still feel that some of the earlier posts are a bit of an overreaction. That said I can understand some of the frustration.

I'll take a shot at explaining it. Since psychological factors generally exist on a spectrum rather than a binary on/off, there are lots of people with a "shadow syndrome" that doesn't quite rise to the level of a full-blown disorder. Completists are not necessarily collecting just for fun; they may see OCDish tendencies in other aspects of their lives, such as how I have to ritualistically try each door handle of my car when I go to work, or else I end up walking back to check.

I'm able to talk myself down with things like what I said to S.G. here; but assuming that the OCD shadow syndrome is a spectrum, there will be people who find it much more difficult than I do, without actually being disabled. What B.E.H. said about Mars Attacks -- 55 covers, and then a boxed set with an exclusive 56th -- is just plain exploitative. If someone buys all the variant covers out of sheer enjoyment, then great! But some collectors will be buying at least some of those covers just to avoid the discomfort of incompleteness -- not because they actually want them -- and that's where it becomes a problem.

They're right here in the Pacific Northwest! :)

Dark Horse is utterly fantastic. Oregon success stories make me happy! :)

Sadly, I'm not confident there will be one.

Dude, you're being WAAAAAY too pessimistic about this. Most retail customers will not even be aware of the retailer incentive covers, so this is much less a problem than you make it out to be.

And I don't get the lame pessimism about the trade paperback. I assure you there will eventually be a trade. It's madness to assume otherwise.

Chin up, Mr. Harris.

Perhaps I am. Like I said, I'm disappointed.

I'm still subscribing, though, so, while the chin could perhaps be higher, at least a birdy ain't gonna poop on my lower lip. :)

I'm curious to see how Trades will fit into the line for subscribers. I don't expect an answer anytime soon though.

I'm curious to see how Trades will fit into the line for subscribers. I don't expect an answer anytime soon though.

I suspect the answer will be that monthly comics subscribers will get a discount on the trades, much like they do on back issues or alternate covers. That's not 100% for sure, but I think it's pretty darn likely.

I am never ordering this. You can not add it to the monthly order and the shipping cost is higher than the comic. I am not paying $8 a month for a comic. There is no reason that it can't be added to the monthly shipments.

You can add it to the monthly shipments in your subscription page by selecting the "Hold for monthly Paizo shipment" option. Any time a comic is released it will be held until your next shipment of Paizo products. If you're also a subscriber to the Pathfinder Battles minis, they will also be held and bundled up with your next Paizo shipment.

So, is the only comic that receives the RPG 'goodies' is the special paizo.com issue?

So, is the only comic that receives the RPG 'goodies' is the special paizo.com issue?

The content of the comics are all the same, the cover is the only difference.

Ok, thank you!

Brian E. Harris wrote:

Sadly, I'm not confident there will be one.

Dude, you're being WAAAAAY too pessimistic about this. Most retail customers will not even be aware of the retailer incentive covers, so this is much less a problem than you make it out to be.

And I don't get the lame pessimism about the trade paperback. I assure you there will eventually be a trade. It's madness to assume otherwise.

Chin up, Mr. Harris.

Yeah, I'm certain there will be. It's kind of like DVDs. I had a friend of mine once actually say about a movie that had a mildly disappointing box office return: "They probably won't even put out a DVD." I point-blank called him stupid, because movies that bomb horrendously get DVDs...movies that would bomb even worse go STRAIGHT to DVD.

I've little doubt there will be a trade paperback. With a little luck, it might even come in a deluxe hardcover edition, maybe even showing all the alternate covers (although that could eat up pages if Dynamite continue to milk the multiple covers pretty hard).

You can add it to the monthly shipments in your subscription page by selecting the "Hold for monthly Paizo shipment" option. Any time a comic is released it will be held until your next shipment of Paizo products. If you're also a subscriber to the Pathfinder Battles minis, they will also be held and bundled up with your next Paizo shipment.

Thanks for the help but there was no other options except to pay for monthly shipping. I could not add it to my monthly subscription. I will be fine without it. This is just not worth the stress of trying to get it fixed.

Steve Geddes wrote:

You can add it to the monthly shipments in your subscription page by selecting the "Hold for monthly Paizo shipment" option. Any time a comic is released it will be held until your next shipment of Paizo products. If you're also a subscriber to the Pathfinder Battles minis, they will also be held and bundled up with your next Paizo shipment.

Thanks for the help but there was no other options except to pay for monthly shipping. I could not add it to my monthly subscription. I will be fine without it. This is just not worth the stress of trying to get it fixed.

But... but it's so simple! Literally just do what Steve said. "My Subscriptions" and make sure "Hold for monthly Paizo shipment" is selected as your shipment option. Bingo bango, done! No extra shipping fees or anything. The only "oddity" that happens as a result is that issue 1 will come with your September shipment so as not to delay your August shipment.

PathfinderFan64 you should see the option

IN THIS AREA

of your "My Subscriptions" page.

You could always fire an email to customer service.

Of course, not subscribing to the comic is all well and good. But, making it sound like it is some nightmare logistics scenario is a bit misleading.

You could also speak with the fantastic Customer Service folks, and ask their assistance...