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Thanks again. Also, I learned a new word. I will now use contrariwise as much as possible until I annoy my friends.

So, what does the Aldori swordlord end up looking like? As far as notable differences from the archetype and all.

Jason Nelson wrote:

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Thanks again. Also, I learned a new word. I will now use contrariwise as much as possible until I annoy my friends.

It's a perfectly cromulent word!

Your post embiggens us all.

Considering where Reign of Winter is apparently taking the PCs....

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The ML's mounts are limited to 13 creatures. But if you ever wanted to ride a Huge rhinoceros into battle, you're in luck.

So, what does the Aldori swordlord end up looking like? As far as notable differences from the archetype and all.

The Aldori prestige class is all about shutting down his enemy. He is better at psyching his opponent out with Dazzling Display, can turn aside critical hits, and increases his own AC (especially while fighting defensively). He also makes the most of having a high Dexterity, to the the point that Strength no longer really matters at high levels. I pity the fool that fights a high-level Aldori one-on-one.

So, what does the Aldori swordlord end up looking like? As far as notable differences from the archetype and all.

Well, right off the bat they get the agile property (or, if you prefer, Dervish Dance) built in. They also have an AC bonus that stacks with the one from the archetype (that is, you add your levels together to get the AC bonus if you have both).

Can anyone come up with a way to get into the Arclord of Nex class at 6th level? I'm coming up with 7th at the earliest...

Sorry if somebody has already posted, but what exactly does the Champion of Irori advance from the 2 classes? This is essentially the exact character I've been waiting to play for ages.

Sorry if somebody has already posted, but what exactly does the Champion of Irori advance from the 2 classes? This is essentially the exact character I've been waiting to play for ages.

Monk AC bonus, flurry of blows, stunning fist, and unarmed strike damage, as well as Smite Evil damage. Also, half class level to your Ki pool and to all Knowledge checks (round down), all good saves, and the ability to, at 8th level, as a standard action, make a single unarmed strike as a melee touch attack.

On top of a whole bunch of other abilities. They might not have done much for Monks in terms of gear in Ultimate Equipment, but this book sure gave the Monk-adin multiclass a big boost.

dunebugg wrote:

Sorry if somebody has already posted, but what exactly does the Champion of Irori advance from the 2 classes? This is essentially the exact character I've been waiting to play for ages.

Monk AC bonus, flurry of blows, stunning fist, and unarmed strike damage, as well as Smite Evil damage. Also, half class level to your Ki pool and to all Knowledge checks (round down), all good saves, and the ability to, at 8th level, as a standard action, make a single unarmed strike as a melee touch attack.

On top of a whole bunch of other abilities. They might not have done much for Monks in terms of gear in Ultimate Equipment, but this book sure gave the Monk-adin multiclass a big boost.

anything that would make the champion of Irori less MAD? The only dumpstat as I see it would be Int.

Can anyone come up with a way to get into the Arclord of Nex class at 6th level? I'm coming up with 7th at the earliest...

Hmm considering you need to be 3rd level to take any of the required crafting feats, I think the earliest you could enter the class is at 7th-level.

Sorry if somebody has already posted, but what exactly does the Champion of Irori advance from the 2 classes? This is essentially the exact character I've been waiting to play for ages.

A lot of the level-dependent monk stuff like AC bonus, flurry of blows, and unarmed strike damage; ki pool; smiting (sort of - he smites chaos instead of evil). The CoI is about more than just improving on monk and paladin abilities though, as he gains lots of cool and unique powers as well.

anything that would make the champion of Irori less MAD? The only dumpstat as I see it would be Int.

Unfortunately, no. Still horribly MAD.

Obsidian wrote:

anything that would make the champion of Irori less MAD? The only dumpstat as I see it would be Int.

Unfortunately, no. Still horribly MAD.

Bah well I guess Asmire (spelling) will make the best Champ of Irori.

Hey did the Guided weapon enchant make it into ultimate equip? because that could help with the MAD aspect

dunebugg wrote:

Sorry if somebody has already posted, but what exactly does the Champion of Irori advance from the 2 classes? This is essentially the exact character I've been waiting to play for ages.

Monk AC bonus, flurry of blows, stunning fist, and unarmed strike damage, as well as Smite Evil damage. Also, half class level to your Ki pool and to all Knowledge checks (round down), all good saves, and the ability to, at 8th level, as a standard action, make a single unarmed strike as a melee touch attack.

On top of a whole bunch of other abilities. They might not have done much for Monks in terms of gear in Ultimate Equipment, but this book sure gave the Monk-adin multiclass a big boost.

That sounds awesome :O So definitely more Monk-focused than paladin, so I'm assuming something like Monk4/Paladin1 as entry. Also going to guess d8 HD and 3/4 BAB?

In case it isn't obvious from my review, let me be blunt: this book needs a sequel. Actually, just go ahead and start a new Pathfinder line called Paths of Prestige.

Anyone else thinking about using Champion of Irori as a way to play holy monks of Korada or the Empyreal Lords in general?

Anyone else thinking about using Champion of Irori as a way to play holy monks of Korada or the Empyreal Lords in general?

Also speaking of Champions of Irori, was there a specific code released for them, like the Faiths of Series. If so which book?

Kvantum wrote:

dunebugg wrote:

Sorry if somebody has already posted, but what exactly does the Champion of Irori advance from the 2 classes? This is essentially the exact character I've been waiting to play for ages.

Monk AC bonus, flurry of blows, stunning fist, and unarmed strike damage, as well as Smite Evil damage. Also, half class level to your Ki pool and to all Knowledge checks (round down), all good saves, and the ability to, at 8th level, as a standard action, make a single unarmed strike as a melee touch attack.

On top of a whole bunch of other abilities. They might not have done much for Monks in terms of gear in Ultimate Equipment, but this book sure gave the Monk-adin multiclass a big boost.

That sounds awesome :O So definitely more Monk-focused than paladin, so I'm assuming something like Monk4/Paladin1 as entry. Also going to guess d8 HD and 3/4 BAB?

Monk 3/Pal 2 would get you in and also gets you Divine Grace. And it's full BAB/d8... typo, errata, or conscious decision I'm not sure, but it's printed as full BAB/d8 and all good saves.

And there is a specific code of conduct for them. Not as detailed as the ones in Faiths of Purity, but it's there.

dunebugg wrote:

Kvantum wrote:

dunebugg wrote:

Sorry if somebody has already posted, but what exactly does the Champion of Irori advance from the 2 classes? This is essentially the exact character I've been waiting to play for ages.

Monk AC bonus, flurry of blows, stunning fist, and unarmed strike damage, as well as Smite Evil damage. Also, half class level to your Ki pool and to all Knowledge checks (round down), all good saves, and the ability to, at 8th level, as a standard action, make a single unarmed strike as a melee touch attack.

On top of a whole bunch of other abilities. They might not have done much for Monks in terms of gear in Ultimate Equipment, but this book sure gave the Monk-adin multiclass a big boost.

That sounds awesome :O So definitely more Monk-focused than paladin, so I'm assuming something like Monk4/Paladin1 as entry. Also going to guess d8 HD and 3/4 BAB?

Monk 3/Pal 2 would get you in and also gets you Divine Grace. And it's full BAB/d8... typo, errata, or conscious decision I'm not sure, but it's printed as full BAB/d8 and all good saves.

And there is a specific code of conduct for them. Not as detailed as the ones in Faiths of Purity, but it's there.

Anyway that it can be combined with the Zen Archer?

And it's full BAB/d8

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That means this PrC is ideal for anyone that wants to play the monk as a "striker". Man, once this gets out... People that want their monks to live up to that image of running around and actually making contact with those flying kicks and passing jabs are going to have something to think about.

Monk And it's full BAB/d8... typo, errata, or conscious decision I'm not sure...

Holy wow I didn't notice that. Yeah I'm guessing that's an error.

Couple o' wee questions for anyone who has this choice wee tome...

How does the Swordlord Prc interplay with the Fighter (archtype) - is one a pre-req for the other?

Any love for the Ulfen Guard or Ulfen in general??

Anyway that it can be combined with the Zen Archer?

No. It has Still Mind ability as a pre-req.

Alignment: Lawful good.

Deity: Must worship Irori.
Skills: Knowledge (religion) 5 ranks, 5 ranks total in
Linguistics or other Knowledge skills.
Special: Smite evil class feature, still mind class feature.

Couple o' wee questions for anyone who has this choice wee tome...

How does the Swordlord Prc interplay with the Fighter (archtype) - is one a pre-req for the other?

Any love for the Ulfen Guard or Ulfen in general??

I'll let the PrC speak for itself:

Many of an Aldori swordlord’s abilities rely or build on rules presented in Ultimate Combat, which includes rules for duels. This prestige class also works well in conjunction with the Aldori swordlord archetype presented in Pathfinder Player Companion: Inner Sea Primer.

Nothing that really strikes me as Ulfen, though I might be missing it.

The Lantern Bearer is just a massive trigger to run Second Darkness with an all-elf party.

Amazingly realised PrC which works for a whole bunch of classes.

Cool - since if I ever do run SD it will be with an all elf party.

Probably start out at the Mordant Spire, with something weird being dragged out of the water. Then, scene 2, "Forty years later, your characters ..."

This. Is how you do. Prestige Classes.

A cool thing about the Aldori Swordlord: you could make a 20th-level fighter with the Aldori archetype, but not a single level in the Aldori prestige class. Then you could make a 10th-level fighter/10th-level Aldori Swordlord (that is, with the prestige class). And while each character would be fairly different, both would be perfectly viable examples of the Aldori fighting style. So far this is the only time I've seen this weird archetype/PrC synergy, and I like it. (You could sort of say that the Winter Witch archetype/Winter Witch PrC are similar, but the WW archetype is minimal - the Aldori archetype, on the other hand, is not).

This. Is how you do. Prestige Classes.

For shizzle.

Just amazing, amazing stuff.

Even the ones I'm not personally excited about are mechanically well done. And the ones I am excited about... wahoo!

A lot of the level-dependent monk stuff like AC bonus, flurry of blows, and unarmed strike damage; ki pool; smiting (sort of - he smites chaos instead of evil).

Actually, he smites chaos and evil.

Appoligies if I Missed it, but would someone be so kind as to Post the Requirements for the HellKnight Signifer?

Appoligies if I Missed it, but would someone be so kind as to Post the Requirements for the HellKnight Signifer?

Lawful alignment, medium armor proficiency, either Warrior Priest or Arcane Armor Training, Intimidate 2 ranks, Knowledge (planes) 5 ranks, Spellcraft 5 ranks.

Which, interestingly, kinda puts the screws to magus builds. Gotta waste a feat on AAT, which you entirely do not need...

Loving the Aldori Sword Lord..my Rouge Swashbuckler thanks you and is soooo glad she went with EWP Aldori Duelling Sword

Josh Shrader wrote:

Appoligies if I Missed it, but would someone be so kind as to Post the Requirements for the HellKnight Signifer?

Lawful alignment, medium armor proficiency, either Warrior Priest or Arcane Armor Training, Intimidate 2 ranks, Knowledge (planes) 5 ranks, Spellcraft 5 ranks.

Which, interestingly, kinda puts the screws to magus builds. Gotta waste a feat on AAT, which you entirely do not need...

how many spell caster levels does it give ???

Josh Shrader wrote:

Appoligies if I Missed it, but would someone be so kind as to Post the Requirements for the HellKnight Signifer?

Lawful alignment, medium armor proficiency, either Warrior Priest or Arcane Armor Training, Intimidate 2 ranks, Knowledge (planes) 5 ranks, Spellcraft 5 ranks.

Which, interestingly, kinda puts the screws to magus builds. Gotta waste a feat on AAT, which you entirely do not need...

Thanks!

Would any of you be able to post the requirements for the Aldori Swordlord? I'm currently playing the fighter archetype in my game and would like to see which feats, if any, I may need to pick up.

Check here Silt.

Also to all you curious folks / contributors, little mini reviews of each PrC there.

Requirements for the Swordlord:

Feats: Dazzling Display, Exotic Weapon Proficiency (Aldori dueling word), Weapon Finesse, Weapon Focus (Aldori dueling sword).

Skills: Acrobatics 3 ranks, Intimidate 5 ranks, Knowledge (nobility) 3 ranks, Sense Motive 3 ranks.

EDIT: Apparently Cheapy has a higher Dex than I do.

Awesome! Thank you guys! Now for the long wait until the 16th comes around...

Can anybody tell me about the Winter witch PrC? What are the requirements? What they get? what they loose? I am currently playing a Winter Witch.

Anyt other PrCs that works well with witches?

What about Rogues? What are those like?

Josh Shrader wrote:

Appoligies if I Missed it, but would someone be so kind as to Post the Requirements for the HellKnight Signifer?

Lawful alignment, medium armor proficiency, either Warrior Priest or Arcane Armor Training, Intimidate 2 ranks, Knowledge (planes) 5 ranks, Spellcraft 5 ranks.

Which, interestingly, kinda puts the screws to magus builds. Gotta waste a feat on AAT, which you entirely do not need...

So it is more of a clerical'divine build?

Shisumo wrote:

Josh Shrader wrote:

Appoligies if I Missed it, but would someone be so kind as to Post the Requirements for the HellKnight Signifer?

Lawful alignment, medium armor proficiency, either Warrior Priest or Arcane Armor Training, Intimidate 2 ranks, Knowledge (planes) 5 ranks, Spellcraft 5 ranks.

Which, interestingly, kinda puts the screws to magus builds. Gotta waste a feat on AAT, which you entirely do not need...

So it is more of a clerical'divine build?

It's more of a wizard / cleric / oracle class.

Some of the abilities mention inquisitions, but inquisitors can't actually get into the class by themselves without taking Arcane Armor Training, due to them not qualifying for Warrior Priest. Kind of an oddity, when you think about it.

Inquisitors get domains, and thus qualify for Warrior Priest...?

Derp, I got that confused with Channel Energy.

In any event, the umbral court agent's picture really turns me off from the class. Mission accopmlished, I guess.

Can anybody tell me about the Winter witch PrC? What are the requirements? What they get? what they loose? I am currently playing a Winter Witch.

Anyt other PrCs that works well with witches?

What about Rogues? What are those like?

To qualify to become a winter witch, a character must fulfill all the following criteria.

Skills: Knowledge (arcana) 5 ranks, Spellcraft 5 ranks.

Spells: Able to cast at least three different spells with the
cold descriptor, one of which must be of 3rd level or higher.

Special: Must have a patron and the ice magic class
feature (Inner Sea Magic 43).

In other Words if you are playing the Archetype it's a shoo in.

The winter witch’s class skills (and the key ability for each skill) are Bluff (Cha), Intimidate (Cha), Knowledge (arcana) (Int), Knowledge (nobility) (Int), Survival (Wis), and Use Magic Device (Cha).

Levels of the winter witch prestige class stack with witch levels for determining a winter witch’s spells per day, spells gained at each level, the effect of her hexes and other witch class abilities (including archetype abilities), the abilities of her witch’s familiar, and the level at which she can select major hexes or grand hexes.

So its a PRC with no down side for an already existing Witch..I wish there were more off those for casters

At 5th level and every two levels thereafter, a winter witch gains the following major hexes in addition to those gained from normal advancement: 5th—icetombUM, 7th—hoarfrostUM, 9th—numbing chill PoP
If a winter witch already has this hex, she may instead gain any other hex she meets the prerequisites for

So extra,free Hexes from 10th level.. I am still seeing no downside to this..are you?"

This. Is how you do. Prestige Classes.

I approve of this message.

If anybody could share the lowdown on the following PrC's, I'd be obliged :-):
Arclord of Nex
Magaambyan Arcanist
Prophet of Kalistrade
Umbral Court Agent
Golden Legionnaire

As For rogues..

Aspis Agent..as if anyone wants to work for the bad guys

Bellflower Tiller...pretty much a closed shop for Halflings

Daggermark Poisoner....but poison use is oficially Evil

Gray Gardener...Again one off the Bad guys (from Galt)

Sleepless Detective..Close protection from Ustalav

All in all not a huge amount to work with and at least 3 off them inelligible for PFS

So extra,free Hexes from 10th level.. I am still seeing no downside to this..are you?"

Might have something to do with the loss of the caster level at first level of the PrC.

You don't lose much though.

John Kretzer wrote:

Can anybody tell me about the Winter witch PrC? What are the requirements? What they get? what they loose? I am currently playing a Winter Witch.

Anyt other PrCs that works well with witches?

What about Rogues? What are those like?

To qualify to become a winter witch, a character must fulfill all the following criteria.

Skills: Knowledge (arcana) 5 ranks, Spellcraft 5 ranks.

Spells: Able to cast at least three different spells with the
cold descriptor, one of which must be of 3rd level or higher.

Special: Must have a patron and the ice magic class
feature (Inner Sea Magic 43).

In other Words if you are playing the Archetype it's a shoo in.

The winter witch’s class skills (and the key ability for each skill) are Bluff (Cha), Intimidate (Cha), Knowledge (arcana) (Int), Knowledge (nobility) (Int), Survival (Wis), and Use Magic Device (Cha).

Levels of the winter witch prestige class stack with witch levels for determining a winter witch’s spells per day, spells gained at each level, the effect of her hexes and other witch class abilities (including archetype abilities), the abilities of her witch’s familiar, and the level at which she can select major hexes or grand hexes.

So its a PRC with no down side for an already existing Witch..I wish there were more off those for casters

At 5th level and every two levels thereafter, a winter witch gains the following major hexes in addition to those gained from normal advancement: 5th—icetombUM, 7th—hoarfrostUM, 9th—numbing chill PoP
If a winter witch already has this hex, she may instead gain any other hex she meets the prerequisites for

So extra,free Hexes from 10th level.. I am still seeing no downside to this..are you?"

two down sides, no favored class bonus, unless you are a half-elf with the Multitalented Mastery feat, and one caster level gone.