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Very cool.

I'm curious about this. Anybody know the pagecount of the material?

Also if it's possible to not run in Ravengro, as I've already bypassed that?

Page count is 16 pages, not counting the front and back cover and the page of legal stuff.

It's absolutely possible not to run it in Ravengro. The introduction assumes you are in a small village where some major haunting is taking place, and it is designed to help supplement the trust mechanic that the AP adventure introduces (and for which some have complained the adventure doesn't provide enough opportunities to gain trust points), but it could just as easily happen anywhere in Ustalav or any such creepy place.

As far as level design, it's designed for 1st or 2nd level characters; however, it would not actually be hard to scale it upwards for mid-level characters. For example, there is a haunt that produces quasi-real creatures a la shadow conjuration; for stronger characters, those creatures could be completely real. Likewise, there is a creature near the end with the ability to grow stronger through hunting others; you could easily scale it upwards by presuming it has already taken a number of victims and has gained power appropriately.

I could be more precise, of course, but that would be telling! You should give in to temptation. Come on, you know you want it! :)

I'm curious about this. Anybody know the pagecount of the material?

Also if it's possible to not run in Ravengro, as I've already bypassed that?

It is 19 pages about 12 of them is actual game content. It is designed to be put in anywhere in the adventure path. Though it is low CR stuff so you might need to boost the monster some.

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To be precise:

Page 1 - Cover
Page 2 - Hyperlinked table of contents, allowing instant navigation to different sections of the PDF
Page 3 - Credits
Page 4 - Introduction by Clark Peterson, description of the product and product line, and 'how to use this product with official Paizo AP stuff'
Pages 5-16 - The adventure!
Page 17 - Bios of the contributors
Page 18 - Legal
Page 19 - Back cover

And reviewed here, on DTRPG and sent to GMS magazine. Great job, now can we get longer adventures in that style please? ;)

Fantastic Review End!

I listened to Omnia different style of music but I liked it.

Yeah, it's rather folky, but I enjoy that for a change from my usual fare of goth/metal etc..

Thanks for the review and glad you enjoyed it!

The length of plug-in adventures does present an interesting challenge, as we certainly want to give fans their money's worth in a product. At the same time, we don't want to make these plug-in adventures too long, as they could detract from the overarching story notes of an AP and, from a mechanical standpoint, could potentially give out too much in the way of xp and loot for the expected progression of characters running in them. In the case of these two adventures, we also kind of doubled down on the same adventure space right at the beginning of the campaign. Lastly, of course, one never knows with a new product line exactly how people will read and play it, and as these were our first two adventures to release they represented some experiments in format, style, and content that we are using to continually improve our offerings.

That said, these adventures can also stand on their own for GMs who aren't running the actual AP at all, and with future AP plug-in adventures there will be more space between them, so we will have room to let them breathe a bit more. The next AP plug-in adventure is just finishing up the art phase and will be coming to you in early August, and it is about 1000 words longer than The Murmuring Fountain in terms of the actual meat of the adventure. Our next adventure, scheduled to release in September, should be a bit longer than that.

We make products that we think are awesome to look at and to use, with great production values, but the foundation of any product is the game content itself. We believe you will find our work second to none, but we are always open to feedback from fans with ideas on how to make our products better... and that includes "GIVE US MORE"! :)

In fact, one of the guys has an idea for a special bonus product that we might be pulling together for a surprise release in August. A surprise even to me!

So the surprise is 10 more gothic horror books? Cause I would love that surprise for August. :)

Only 10? D_M, how restrained! I'd shoot high and want 100! :D

Well I didn't want to scare them away. You know how skittish writers are, I figured go for 10. Then when he creeps out and decides to do it, I jump him. Chain him up in my basement and make him write gothic horror forever, least when he is not experiencing it first hand from my visits to the basement. :)

I listened to Omnia different style of music but I liked it.

Isn't that the land in Discworld dedicated to the great god Om?

“The merest accident of microgeography had meant that the first man to hear the voice of Om, and who gave Om his view of humans, was a shepherd and not a goatherd. They have quite different ways of looking at the world, and the whole of history might have been different. For sheep are stupid, and have to be driven. But goats are intelligent, and need to be led.”

*cues up Aerosmith*

Legendary Games is back in the saddle!

how can i risk to buy murmuring fountain if i cant see what´s inside?

ok, maybe the synopsis are so... dry?

i need to know more about that:
total pages, color, clack and white, images or only text... how do i know if it would gonna likes me?

if dont, how do i take my money back?

i buy blindness the rule of fear, and i never cant takeit back!!

from ogl i buy some pdfs:
legendary level which was a merely copy paste form that in the 3.x version...

i need a preview i guess

Liz Courts wrote:

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Legendary Games is back in the saddle!

how can i risk to buy murmuring fountain if i cant see what´s inside?

ok, maybe the synopsis are so... dry?

i need to know more about that:
total pages, color, clack and white, images or only text... how do i know if it would gonna likes me?

if dont, how do i take my money back?

i buy blindness the rule of fear, and i never cant takeit back!!

from ogl i buy some pdfs:
legendary level which was a merely copy paste form that in the 3.x version...

i need a preview i guess

The page count has been posted twice previously in the thread, but if you'd like a preview you can click here, which gives you a several-page preview of the contents when you click on the "quick preview" or "full-size preview" links just underneath the cover illustration.

Enjoy!

judas 147 wrote:

Liz Courts wrote:

*cues up Aerosmith*

Legendary Games is back in the saddle!

how can i risk to buy murmuring fountain if i cant see what´s inside?

ok, maybe the synopsis are so... dry?

i need to know more about that:
total pages, color, clack and white, images or only text... how do i know if it would gonna likes me?

if dont, how do i take my money back?

i buy blindness the rule of fear, and i never cant takeit back!!

from ogl i buy some pdfs:
legendary level which was a merely copy paste form that in the 3.x version...

i need a preview i guess

The page count has been posted twice previously in the thread, but if you'd like a preview you can click here, which gives you a several-page preview of the contents when you click on the "quick preview" or "full-size preview" links just underneath the cover illustration.

Enjoy!

txs i will check and decides if i owe this one!!

ok i already buy it, and i have to say: there is nothing with the trust system in this book, i also love the adventure, and the option.

the art is good, the combat are beutiful and the maps, how i love this maps!!!

ok i already buy it, and i have to say: there is nothing with the trust system in this book, i also love the adventure, and the option.

the art is good, the combat are beutiful and the maps, how i love this maps!!!

Look in the "rewards" section after each encounter, and you will see notes about how PCs would gain or lose trust for each.

For example, on page 9 with the Lireia encounter,

Glad you enjoyed the adventure and hope you find the trust notes useful for your PCs.

oh youre right, im sorry!!
more love ofr this add on!! i hope they make more for this, adventure´s path

reviewed

Thanks for the review and glad your players had such a great time with it! That we even brought a tear to a player's eye... that's so neat to hear. Hope you enjoy the Fiddler's Lament!

did you make another plug for this AP?
i will buy the Construct Codex and treasury, and maybe the pregen (just for npcs), and the other ones!!

im a shipwreck from ravenloft, and since AD&D2E i was looking for something like this

@Judas:

You and me, buddy! Ravenloft will always be my first true love. That being said, the Tomes-book and the Gothic Grimoires are also VERY cool and fitting for Ravenloft/CoC-affine DMs!

@Judas:

You and me, buddy! Ravenloft will always be my first true love. That being said, the Tomes-book and the Gothic Grimoires are also VERY cool and fitting for Ravenloft/CoC-affine DMs!

it seems so, i wil try those, but im interest in the construct codex.

always a pleasure find someone like me, trying to keep the feeling at our tables
Hey Endzeitgeist, did you gave to the races the OR from Ravenloft? -i did and it feels so great, also the MR and Culvl feelling...

Also, i gave most Ustalavic places some Ravenloftic gazeteer

Question: how did you solve the Sanity mini system for CC in the 4th module?
-did u use it from the beginning of HoH?
-the trust system relies on the OR and Appeareance stats
-i actualy begin the tale with the players encarnating Lyvar´s men at the prision 50 years after

did you make another plug for this AP?

i will buy the Construct Codex and treasury, and maybe the pregen (just for npcs), and the other ones!!

im a shipwreck from ravenloft, and since AD&D2E i was looking for something like this

As others have pointed out, we've got a bunch of other products in our Gothic AP Plug-In line... and we're also getting ready to release another! Originally slated as one of our shorter Gothic Grimoires, this one just kept growing and growing, and we are excited to put the finishing touches on The Mad Doctor's Formulary, in case you've ever wondered how Dr. Frankenstein, Dr. Moreau, and every other mad doctor got their start. Who needs magic when you have science... TERRIBLE, AWFUL, DEADLY SCIENCE!!!

Two art pieces to finish, then layout and hopefully release the first week or so of February!

...and we are excited to put the finishing touches on The Mad Doctor's Formulary, in case you've ever wondered how Dr. Frankenstein, Dr. Moreau, and every other mad doctor got their start. Who needs magic when you have science... TERRIBLE, AWFUL, DEADLY SCIENCE!!!

Two art pieces to finish, then layout and hopefully release the first week or so of February!

Where's that DeLorean when I need it?!

Hej Judas, to answer your questions:

-I instead used my own sanity-system losely based on the 3.5-book "Darkness & Dread" by Fantasy Flight Games.

- I also used OR and appearance as modifiers to trust and kept individual score as well as "guilty by association" rules, i.e. if you're seen with an elf, your trust-score drops once.

However, to be honest, about ALL my sessions run still in Ravenloft or the vast, bloated, multi-continent mash-up I've created from its basic core since its inceptions: Including elements of Golarion, NeoExodus, Midgard etc. And yes, at least in my game it seems to work. ^^

Cheers!

Hej Judas, to answer your questions:

-I instead used my own sanity-system losely based on the 3.5-book "Darkness & Dread" by Fantasy Flight Games.

- I also used OR and appearance as modifiers to trust and kept individual score as well as "guilty by association" rules, i.e. if you're seen with an elf, your trust-score drops once.

However, to be honest, about ALL my sessions run still in Ravenloft or the vast, bloated, multi-continent mash-up I've created from its basic core since its inceptions: Including elements of Golarion, NeoExodus, Midgard etc. And yes, at least in my game it seems to work. ^^

Cheers!

wow thats sounds very nice indeed!!

...+1 or for an elf?
i still use the same +3 to the elf and +5 to the Calivans.
... oh speaking of calivans; theyre orcs, half-orcs and calivans...

i has to tell, Night of the walking dead (tsr grand conjunction) seems to be the skeletical sketch for HoH, i actually convert it (the players musst travel first the Souragne swamp to get to ravengro). that runs pretty well, now with NotWD, Fiddler´s Lamment, and Murmuring Fountain, and HoH, the players must face sm hiting 5thlvl and still was a hard encounter!!

for sanity rule, i made my own system (wis+will bonus).
and even i add a Toxicity and vitality rule (con+con mod) where toxicity was created to regulate the rate at the players drinks a potion!!
EXTREMILY TOUGH!!!

and with all of those extraordinary adventures, and the random encounters, we can say we fixed the issue for 1d4+2 days for word since the pl died!!

I'm still using +3 for elves - after all, every one knows they kidnap children, eat them or bring them to their fey overlords!

I reduced the caliban to +3 in areas they are known, since the deformed wretches already got the short end of the stick. In others, I dropped them to +4.

Halflings got reduced to +1 and converted into a weird servant/butler-race as per Wicked Fantasy: Haffuns, but only idea-wise. Since the crunch of said line is not that good, I only mined the idea.

Gnomes are said to poison wells, be godless and bring ill fortune at +2 OR, but also often work at universities/ as doctors/surgeons to do autopsies, remove bullets etc.

Dawrves kidnap people to work them to death as slaves in their mines, presumably only eat earth and minerals and are considered a money-grubbing, thieving lot since they all but control the banking system that has arisen.

If you like to, feel free to drop me your toxicity-rules, since I currently only houserule poisons, curses and diseases to require a caster level check vs DC +5 to be cured by magic and have been looking into other venues.

If you want to check out for maps etc., drop by thefraternity of shadows, a place where some truly stellar Ravenloft-materials can be found alongside quite a bunch of beautiful maps. Apologies if you already know the Fraternity!

Cheers!

mmm the potion rating level for toxicity is very simple, and make the players wiser at the moment for drink it, only Spells cast on or for them has no toxicity rate.

every character has a toxicity score = total con score+con mod+fort base(in the very beginin of this rule, there was at the rate of con score+con mod+1/2lvl but it crushes at lvl 12th or so)

every potion (spider climb, clw, ccw, invisibility, haste, etc) has a rate of toxicity as the same level of the spell used to created.
a cure light wounds deals 1 point of toxicity and a invisibility potion deals 3 points of toxicity... etc.

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a fighter lvl 5
con 14+2
fort base +4

has a toxicity 20
he can drink a fly potion, and tree Clw. he has now 6toxicity damage
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when the toxicity drops 0 or -1 your nauseated
-2 -5 disabled
-6 -10 unconsious
-11+ Dying
if a character drops her toxicity below its constitution score, he die, no save is required.

The toxicity replenish when they rest (8hrs), as well at the hit points rate.
like in real life, a penicillin stay at least 8hrs in our system, so simple
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if you found this rule useful, be my guest.

PS1: i know theres many ways to improve it, but i made just for make them more wiser and think twice before they drink a lot of potions at once.

PS2: if u use it (i wish so), please, tell me how it works in your campaigns!!! that will be nice to know

Ps3: thanks for the website, it looks very useful

Looks awesome!

How do you determine a potion's toxicity? Whether I use the system or not hinges on how that one can be determined. Any guidelines?

Thanks so much, looks VERY neat! (Plus, I'ma HUGE fan of the Witcher-games, so that rocks!)

Oh im a fan of the Geralt´s Di Rivia Saga books/The Witcher games too
even i designed all of the potions for the alchemist use only (and because his the one who only can use them, becomes more easy).
Instead spell-like wanna be system, and now our Legatus Cayo Aurelio (Miro´s Alchemist)is one of the most excentric alchemist, creating, searching and developing formulas to create his own ways to create what he desires... but the idea here was create something diferent from a spells (i mean, i dont like the idea for spell emulator theme, dont stack but you can create a diferent kind of pluses searching ingredients)

Ok then!! as a game mechanics the potions must have a cost, so, the best way of bestow on it was using the spell level. i also create at the beginning one hd rol for every potion... then its come clumsy and slowered the game... so... spell level was the best option!!

I just ran this adventure for my group. They had a great time with it. One player was delighted at making friends with Eronel the ghost raven (earned by helping protect Lireia). All of them enjoyed Antrellus' complete bananas insanity and the horrifying aftermath of talking with him.

Interestingly, though, although we designed the adventure as a way to gain more trust for PCs, the players decided not to tell anybody about what happened with Antrellus. They could have gained multiple points of trust, but they thought it better to keep the horrible truth on the down-low.

It was a good night's play, all told.