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Pathfinder Adventure Path: Rise of the Runelords Anniversary Edition (PFRPG)

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Pathfinder Adventure Path: Rise of the Runelords Anniversary Edition (PFRPG)
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In the sleepy coastal town of Sandpoint, evil is brewing. An attack by crazed goblins reveals the shadows of a forgotten past returning to threaten the town—and perhaps all of Varisia. The Rise of the Runelords Adventure Path begins with this goblin raid and takes players on an epic journey through the land of Varisia as they track a cult of serial killers, fight backwoods ogres, stop an advancing army of stone giants, delve into ancient dungeons, and finally face off against a wizard-king in his ancient mountaintop city. This hardcover compilation updates the fan-favorite campaign to the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game rules with revised and new content in more than 400 pages packed with mayhem, excitement, and adventure!

Celebrating both the fifth anniversary of the Pathfinder Adventure Path and the tenth anniversary of Paizo Publishing, this new edition expands the original campaign with new options and refined encounters throughout, incorporating 5 years of community feedback.

    The Rise of the Runelords Anniversary Edition contains:
  • All six chapters of the original Adventure Path, expanded and updated for use with the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game.
  • Articles on the major locations of Rise of the Runelords: sleepy Sandpoint, the ancient Thassilonian city of Xin-Shalast, and others.
  • Revelations on the sinister magic of Thassilon, with updated spells, magic items, and details on tracking sin points throughout the campaign.
  • A bestiary featuring eight monsters updated from the original Adventure Path, plus an all-new terror.
  • Dozens of new illustrations, never-before-seen characters, location maps, and more!

The Rise of the Runelords Anniversary Edition is not part of any subscription.

ISBN-13: 978-1-60125-436-8

FAQ:

Q: Will you be doing hardcover compilations of all of your Adventure Paths?
A: No. This is a special celebration of our very first Adventure Path on its 5th Anniversary. Several of the original volumes of Rise of the Runelords have been unavailable in print for a long time, yet it remains one of our most popular adventure paths; that circumstance presents a unique opportunity for us to expand and update it for use with the Pathfinder RPG, and to apply lessons we've learned about making Adventure Paths over the last half-decade. Our other adventure paths are largely still in print, and many of them were designed for use with the Pathfinder RPG to begin with; we have no plans to recompile them.

Q: Is there anything missing from the original AP volumes?
A: Yes—otherwise, this book would be more than 600 pages long! Some of the monsters and other things created for Rise of the Runelords are now part of the official Pathfinder RPG rules, so they're not reprinted here. The original volumes also included monster ecologies, bestiary entries, and other campaign setting material that isn't directly used in the adventure itself; those items are also not present in this collection. The Pathfinder Journal fiction featuring Eando Kline is not presented here either, but it has been compiled—along with the installments from the subsequent two Adventure Paths—as The Compass Stone, now available in ePub form. We have also replaced some of the artwork from the previous edition, and replaced the six individual introductions with one new one.

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Originally posted to the Paizo blog for Pathfinder Adventure Path #5.

Rise of the Runelords Anniversary Edition is sanctioned for use in Pathfinder Society Organized Play. The rules and Chronicle sheets for running this Adventure Path are available as a free download (438 KB zip/PDF).

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Yee-haw! I am so excited . . . (where did 'yee-haw' come from?) :)

Cheliax

Pathfinder Comics Subscriber; Pathfinder Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Cards, Companion, Maps, Modules, Pawns, Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Ordered one and will purchase one at GenCon 2012!!


Pathfinder Comics Subscriber; Pathfinder Campaign Setting, Companion, Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Sweet

Lantern Lodge

I have a question. Does this have the player's guide contained within it?


Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber
Sgmendez wrote:
I have a question. Does this have the player's guide contained within it?

I'd be surprised if it didn't.

Cheliax

Pathfinder Comics Subscriber; Pathfinder Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Cards, Companion, Maps, Modules, Pawns, Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Will Wayne Reynolds be doing the cover art as well as some interior pages?


Beek Gwenders of Croodle wrote:
Sgmendez wrote:
I have a question. Does this have the player's guide contained within it?
I'd be surprised if it didn't.

I'd be surprised if it did. A player's guide doesn't belong into the AP itself, because the AP book is not for the players' grubby little paws. They're for the master only!

But I'm sure there will be an updated ROTRLAPPFRPGPG (OMGWTFBBQ!?!) in line with the kind of Player's Guides we get for current APs, i.e als a free PDF.

Osirion

Sgmendez wrote:
I know that it states that they stated they don't plan on doing this with other APs but it would be really awesome if they did this for at least the APs before the release of the PFRPG.

Maybe if the RotRL Anniversary Edition sells like hotcakes...?

I don't own any APs, but I'm definitely going to get this one.


I want this


Pathfinder Comics Subscriber; Pathfinder Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules, Pawns, Roleplaying Game, Tales Subscriber

Preordered! June 2012 can't come fast enough!

Cheliax

Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules, Roleplaying Game Subscriber
Dream Daemon wrote:
Sgmendez wrote:
I know that it states that they stated they don't plan on doing this with other APs but it would be really awesome if they did this for at least the APs before the release of the PFRPG.

Maybe if the RotRL Anniversary Edition sells like hotcakes...?

I don't own any APs, but I'm definitely going to get this one.

I could see Curse of the Crimson Throne getting a compilation if this one sells like mad, but not Second Darkness and Legacy of Fire. Neither of those are popular enough to really warrant it.

Though at 59.99 (or 50.99 with the subscriber discount!) I'd buy them. We all pretty much knew this book was coming out for at least a year now, but I had always thought it was going to be at a much higher price point, maybe even 99.99, so I am quite pleasantly surprised to see it so relatively low.

Maybe in three or four years we can be arguing about if Kingmaker will get a compilation as one last hurrah for PfRPG v1.

Paizo Employee Webstore Gninja Minion

Joana wrote:
LoreKeeper wrote:

Maybe I'm just hopeful or have my references mixed up - but is there a complete mini set to go with this?

There are a set of RotRL minis coming out next year in combination with this, but I don't know how 'complete' it will be. I think the press release said there would be 60 different minis in the RotRL set.

There is a complete Pathfinder Paper Minis Rise of the Runelords set (which will get updated to fit where needed). :D

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

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Sgmendez wrote:
I know that it states that they stated they don't plan on doing this with other APs but it would be really awesome if they did this for at least the APs before the release of the PFRPG.

We have *no* plans to compile additional adventure paths. Keeping up sales (and especially subscriptions) of the Pathfinder Adventure Path line is crucial to our business, and if we were to make a habit of regularly compiling APs, many customers would be tempted to opt out of the ongoing series, choosing instead to wait for the compilations.

That would be, frankly, one of the worst possible things that could happen to Paizo.

I won't say we'll never ever compile another Adventure Path, but I will say it would take very very unusual circumstances for us to consider doing another one, no matter how well this one sells.

Let's please just enjoy that we have the opportunity to revisit Rise of the Runelords in this exceptional way, and leave it at that.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

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Sgmendez wrote:
I have a question. Does this have the player's guide contained within it?

We've yet to determine exactly how that will work.

(Note that if you compare the original RotR Player's Guide to the Player's Guides from more recent APs, you'll see that they've evolved quite a bit. Among other things, the RotR Player's Guide includes a bunch of general "intro to the campaign setting" information that we don't put in AP Player's Guides anymore. Odds are good that whatever we do with it, it won't just be a straight PFRPG update of the current material.)


This is great! I've always wanted to get this AP, but it's been unavailable (out of print/ difficult to get/ way overpriced) in its entirety where I'm from...

Query: The product description doesn't say either way, but will the religion articles (Desna and Lamashtu, right??) also be included in this compilation? Or are they one of the "campaign setting material that isn't directly used in the adventure itself" that are excluded.

I'd be very sad at the latter option 8(

Or has the final "what stays & what goes" not been finalised yet??

Thanks for the clarification.

-- C.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Psiphyre wrote:

This is great! I've always wanted to get this AP, but it's been unavailable (out of print/ difficult to get/ way overpriced) in its entirety where I'm from...

Query: The product description doesn't say either way, but will the religion articles (Desna and Lamashtu, right??) also be included in this compilation? Or are they one of the "campaign setting material that isn't directly used in the adventure itself" that are excluded.

I'd be very sad at the latter option 8(

Or has the final "what stays & what goes" not been finalised yet??

Thanks for the clarification.

-- C.

The deity articles are not in this compilation.

Andoran

Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Ah, hell.

Lantern Lodge

Yeah I understand the not wanting to loose subscribers but coming from someone who started their subscription at the end of SS and going back and buying all the CoT (Cause I got the first one as a present), it would be nice to be able to go and buy some of the pre-PFRPG ones updated. I planed on buying this one (and all the other APs) but all 6 together adds up to a lot of money that I don't really have, this is a much nicer option.

Non Sub
119.94 -> 59.99
Saving 59.95 about 50%

Sub
101.94 -> 50.99
Saving 50.95 about 50%

Lantern Lodge

1 person marked this as a favorite.

As for the AP Player's Guide. It could always be a small booklet inset, kind of like how the maps where in the Shackled City compilation. Or it could just be a chapter at the very end of the book making it easier to keep an eye on where the players are looking.

Personally I am not a fan of PDFs and having the Players Guide in physical form would be great. And if there was a way to get other APs PG in book form (without having to print it out personally) I would defiantly fork out the money or do whatever else was needed.

Cheliax

Pathfinder Comics Subscriber; Pathfinder Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Card Game, Roleplaying Game Subscriber
Sgmendez wrote:

As for the AP Player's Guide. It could always be a small booklet inset, kind of like how the maps where in the Shackled City compilation. Or it could just be a chapter at the very end of the book making it easier to keep an eye on where the players are looking.

Personally I am not a fan of PDFs and having the Players Guide in physical form would be great. And if there was a way to get other APs PG in book form (without having to print it out personally) I would defiantly fork out the money or do whatever else was needed.

I seriouslydoubt that they will go back to this. sales were poor, and adding it into the print cycle means that it has to be tied up a lot earlier -it needs to be finished at the same time that the first issue is finished, rather than at the point were issue 3-4 is being finalised.


Sgmendez wrote:

Yeah I understand the not wanting to loose subscribers but coming from someone who started their subscription at the end of SS and going back and buying all the CoT (Cause I got the first one as a present), it would be nice to be able to go and buy some of the pre-PFRPG ones updated. I planed on buying this one (and all the other APs) but all 6 together adds up to a lot of money that I don't really have, this is a much nicer option.

Non Sub
119.94 -> 59.99
Saving 59.95 about 50%

Sub
101.94 -> 50.99
Saving 50.95 about 50%

Subscribers get a 30% discount on the cover price for AP's. The 15% is for other products. Seems like you used the 15% for your calculations. As a side note, most of that 30% is eaten up by shipping costs. The real advantage is the free pdf.

Cheliax

Interesting. I own the original 6 volumes as well as the map folio for this - speaking of, I'd heavily recommend that this hardcover be shipped with the fold out maps of Varisia and Sandpoint. I found these to be two invaluable campaign resources, and these could be printed on opposed sides.

Couple of questions...

1. How much of the added content is material you have already published elsewhere? E.g. the write up of Xin-Shalast in Lost Cities of Golarion, the Sandpoint NPC gallery in Jade Regent #1, the web freebie on Thassilonian magic, and so on? I'm asking because I'm wondering whether - above and beyond this being a golden opportunity for people who missed getting the path the first time round - there's enough added value for older customers who own these materials already.

2. What's the estimated overall page count? Roughly in the vicinity of Shackled City hardcover?

Thanks.

Edit. Two afterthoughts. First, print copies of the Runelords Player's Guide are still available cheaply at many places online. Second, might be worth pointing out that possession of Bestiary 2 is a prerequisite to using the Runelords hardcover (or at least, that's what I assume, otherwise you couldn't have cut down on the bestiary entries).


I own the originals but I still want this just to save on conversion.

I really hope my AP subscription is still up when it ships as I want the PDF too, because I'm a collector, not because I routinely read PDFs.

I know they've said they won't put out any other compilations as it hurts their primary business model, but at least they have the option later. After Shackled City, there was talk about maybe one of the other Dungeon Magazine APs coming out as a book but Paizo lost the license with WotC. That's not the case here so they can change their minds and maybe publish a conversion of Curse of the Crimson Throne in 2018 if they feel like it then. They may say they're not doing it, but maybe they'll change their minds in five years, and it's their property to change their minds about.

Anyway, looking forward to the hardback of Rise of the Runelords.

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Card Game, Companion Subscriber
Wolf Munroe wrote:

I own the originals but I still want this just to save on conversion.

I really hope my AP subscription is still up when it ships as I want the PDF too, because I'm a collector, not because I routinely read PDFs.

I know they've said they won't put out any other compilations as it hurts their primary business model, but at least they have the option later. After Shackled City, there was talk about maybe one of the other Dungeon Magazine APs coming out as a book but Paizo lost the license with WotC. That's not the case here so they can change their minds and maybe publish a conversion of Curse of the Crimson Throne in 2018 if they feel like it then. They may say they're not doing it, but maybe they'll change their minds in five years, and it's their property to change their minds about.

Anyway, looking forward to the hardback of Rise of the Runelords.

I would be VERY happy to see a collected CotCT hardcover.

Second Darkness, on the other hand...

Andoran

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

I will be pre ordering this. I have a request thou.

The one thing I did not like about the Shackled City hardcover was all the monsters were listed alphabetally in the back. So I was always flipping back and forth when running it. Can Paizo please sort them by chapter/ alpahbetally?


Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

I know what I would like for the PDF. Virtual Tapletop friendly maps. Maybe to complement Minis maps in the hardback.

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber; Pathfinder Deluxe Comics Subscriber; Pathfinder Pawns Subscriber
Sgmendez wrote:
I know that it states that they stated they don't plan on doing this with other APs but it would be really awesome if they did this for at least the APs before the release of the PFRPG.

Yeah, I agree.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

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Seriously, guys, please stop asking for other compilations. It's not going to happen, and I don't want people who don't read carefully thinking it's likely to happen.

One of the main reasons for not doing this one is that just having the notion out there that we *might* do this for other APs is harmful. I'd really appreciate it if everybody would help squash that idea whenever and wherever it is raised.

This is a unique circumstance.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Windjammer wrote:
Interesting. I own the original 6 volumes as well as the map folio for this - speaking of, I'd heavily recommend that this hardcover be shipped with the fold out maps of Varisia and Sandpoint. I found these to be two invaluable campaign resources, and these could be printed on opposed sides.

Not without raising the price, which we're not going to do. The original Map Folio is still in print, so those maps are readily available to those who want them.

Couple of questions...

Windjammer wrote:
1. How much of the added content is material you have already published elsewhere? E.g. the write up of Xin-Shalast in Lost Cities of Golarion, the Sandpoint NPC gallery in Jade Regent #1, the web freebie on Thassilonian magic, and so on? I'm asking because I'm wondering whether - above and beyond this being a golden opportunity for people who missed getting the path the first time round - there's enough added value for older customers who own these materials already.

Even when we cover material that has appeared elsewhere, we don't tend to just reprint it; we rewrite and often add to it. With the new encounters, new art, and changes made from years of playtesting, plus of course the updated mechanics, I think there's plenty of value here for owners of the original run.

Windjammer wrote:
2. What's the estimated overall page count? Roughly in the vicinity of Shackled City hardcover?

Just over 400 pages, same as Shackled City.


This is awesome :) Been waiting for this :) Miss the Gods reprint though and wish for the other, too ;) Or better yet a whole Varisia Package :)

Now that would be nice. A Varisia Hardcover...

Andoran

Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber
Vic Wertz wrote:


This is a unique circumstance.

Like every other unique circumstance. :)

Cheliax

Thanks for the quick answers, Vic! Will now definitely check this out when it rolls into town. :)


Hm. What is this Rise of the Runelords, everybody is talking about? I do not understand all the babbling about it.

Runs around naked, screaming at the top of his lungs: PREORDERED, PREORDERD!


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Windjammer wrote:
Second, might be worth pointing out that possession of Bestiary 2 is a prerequisite to using the Runelords hardcover (or at least, that's what I assume, otherwise you couldn't have cut down on the bestiary entries).

Or you have to have access to Paizo's online PRD which contains all the monsters from Bestiary 1 & 2.


Hmmm...

Carrion Crown will take me from Feb 2011 to October 2011.
Jade Regent will (assuming 4 sessions per book) take us from October 2011 to April 2012.
Skulls and Shackles will take us from April 2012 to September 2012.

Yep. Seems to line up right. Add on the Rise of the Runelords minis, and I might be GMing this.


Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber
Vic Wertz wrote:

We have *no* plans to compile additional adventure paths. Keeping up sales (and especially subscriptions) of the Pathfinder Adventure Path line is crucial to our business, and if we were to make a habit of regularly compiling APs, many customers would be tempted to opt out of the ongoing series, choosing instead to wait for the compilations.

That would be, frankly, one of the worst possible things that could happen to Paizo.

I won't say we'll never ever compile another Adventure Path, but I will say it would take very very unusual circumstances for us to consider doing another one, no matter how well this one sells.

Let's please just enjoy that we have the opportunity to revisit Rise of the Runelords in this exceptional way, and leave it at that.

This makes sense; regular compilations would essentially represent Paizo shooting itself in the foot, which hopefully *none* of us want to happen.

Of course, that won't stop me from beginning to stash money under my mattress so that I can buy this little puppy!

Any idea what the pricing on the PDF will be at this point? If it follows the pricing for individual AP volumes, it will be somewhere around $40, but if it follows the pricing for hardcover volumes, it will be $10 [crosses fingers].

Taldor

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Preordered!

I really can't wait for it, even I really think it's a great idea to release that adventure in Hardcover! I'm just kind of sad it will be the only one to have such a treatment, even if i do understand the point Vic made.

Anyway, great Idea! can't wait for it! Can't wait for all the great stuff Paizo is going to bring us next year! And i'd just like to say: Great Work guys we love you!

Lantern Lodge

Enlight_Bystand wrote:
Sgmendez wrote:

As for the AP Player's Guide. It could always be a small booklet inset, kind of like how the maps where in the Shackled City compilation. Or it could just be a chapter at the very end of the book making it easier to keep an eye on where the players are looking.

Personally I am not a fan of PDFs and having the Players Guide in physical form would be great. And if there was a way to get other APs PG in book form (without having to print it out personally) I would defiantly fork out the money or do whatever else was needed.

I seriouslydoubt that they will go back to this. sales were poor, and adding it into the print cycle means that it has to be tied up a lot earlier -it needs to be finished at the same time that the first issue is finished, rather than at the point were issue 3-4 is being finalised.

I never asked them to go back to printing them. I was saying that if there was a way to get them in print, even if it takes 2 years after the release of the AP.

Grotnar wrote:
Sgmendez wrote:

Yeah I understand the not wanting to loose subscribers but coming from someone who started their subscription at the end of SS and going back and buying all the CoT (Cause I got the first one as a present), it would be nice to be able to go and buy some of the pre-PFRPG ones updated. I planed on buying this one (and all the other APs) but all 6 together adds up to a lot of money that I don't really have, this is a much nicer option.

Non Sub
119.94 -> 59.99
Saving 59.95 about 50%

Sub
101.94 -> 50.99
Saving 50.95 about 50%

Subscribers get a 30% discount on the cover price for AP's. The 15% is for other products. Seems like you used the 15% for your calculations. As a side note, most of that 30% is eaten up by shipping costs. The real advantage is the free pdf.

I know how much the discount is as a subscriber myself. And I didn't do any calculations, I just added the product to my cart. And as this is not part of the subscription you don't get the 30% anyways.

Vic Wertz wrote:

Seriously, guys, please stop asking for other compilations. It's not going to happen, and I don't want people who don't read carefully thinking it's likely to happen.

One of the main reasons for not doing this one is that just having the notion out there that we *might* do this for other APs is harmful. I'd really appreciate it if everybody would help squash that idea whenever and wherever it is raised.

This is a unique circumstance.

OK, didn't mean to step on your toes. I didn't know that it would be a problem to show that there was interest. And to be honest since it says specifically in the product description that

Quote:
Our other adventure paths are largely still in print, and many of them were designed for use with the Pathfinder RPG to begin with; we have no plans to recompile them anytime soon.

If you have absolutely no plans to reprint them then you should remove this statement and state that you have no plans to reprint any. Cause stating in the description that it is a possibility is more harmful than a forum commentator stating that they would like it to happen.

Grand Lodge

Are Goblin Snakes going to be in this book or the bestiary 3?


Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Companion, Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Thank you Paizo for listening! So excited for this!


Econ Question for Vic Wertz. Would it be practical (and possibly cheaper for Paizo) to make a box set: The interior stuff could be the 6 AP modules, just with corrections from 3.5 to PF, almost no retypesetting needed. You could even go to a stapled not sewn/glued binding ilke the original red box set...


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pad300 wrote:
Econ Question for Vic Wertz. Would it be practical (and possibly cheaper for Paizo) to make a box set: The interior stuff could be the 6 AP modules, just with corrections from 3.5 to PF, almost no retypesetting needed. You could even go to a stapled not sewn/glued binding ilke the original red box set...

The problem is that the number of potential customers for that product would be significantly lower than for what they are doing. I've got RotR in paper, as do many, many people. There's a good possibility of me buying this regardless, because it's a single book, seamless compilation. What I'm saying is that the physical presentation matters to me as much as the content does. Six more AP paperbacks to stick on the shelf? Meh. One big tribute book, yes.

I'd pay extra for a signed hardcover, but I realize at least one of the authors is... MiA and frankly without his signature I wouldn't pay extra.

Point is the only reason this is happening is because it's a unique circumstance that hits a lot of market points. It's a chance to get something back into print that's had a lot of time to generate demand, it's a chance to update something to PFRPG rules, and it's a chance to celebrate with a special book. Remove any of those elements and you remove part of the market, reducing probable sales, likely negating the point in doing it in the first place.


Will any sections about Thassilonian magic and the Runelords be getting the cut?


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pad300 wrote:
Econ Question for Vic Wertz. Would it be practical (and possibly cheaper for Paizo) to make a box set: The interior stuff could be the 6 AP modules, just with corrections from 3.5 to PF, almost no retypesetting needed. You could even go to a stapled not sewn/glued binding ilke the original red box set...

I believe that Lisa or Vic (or both) have stated in the past that box sets are not cheap at all - that, while cool, there is no cost savings in producing such a product over a hardcover.


Pathfinder Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Modules, Roleplaying Game Subscriber
pad300 wrote:
Econ Question for Vic Wertz. Would it be practical (and possibly cheaper for Paizo) to make a box set: The interior stuff could be the 6 AP modules, just with corrections from 3.5 to PF, almost no retypesetting needed.

You have to go through almost as many design/edit/proofread passes to do this as it will be to make a new product. Actually, more so as you have many more pages that need to be updated.

If you are wanting updates for older 3.5 modules to PF, a single update book might be a viable product. Something that just printed essential changes required, important NPCs. On the other hand, there are probably fan conversions already that cover most of this.

Andoran

Sgmendez wrote:
Product Description wrote:
Our other adventure paths are largely still in print, and many of them were designed for use with the Pathfinder RPG to begin with; we have no plans to recompile them anytime soon.
If you have absolutely no plans to reprint them then you should remove this statement and state that you have no plans to reprint any. Cause stating in the description that it is a possibility is more harmful than a forum commentator stating that they would like it to happen.

Yeah! If you have no plans to reprint them you should remove the statement that says up-front that you have no plans to reprint them and instead replace it with a statement that says that you have no plans to reprint them.

Lantern Lodge

Jeremiziah wrote:
Sgmendez wrote:
Product Description wrote:
Our other adventure paths are largely still in print, and many of them were designed for use with the Pathfinder RPG to begin with; we have no plans to recompile them anytime soon.
If you have absolutely no plans to reprint them then you should remove this statement and state that you have no plans to reprint any. Cause stating in the description that it is a possibility is more harmful than a forum commentator stating that they would like it to happen.
Yeah! If you have no plans to reprint them you should remove the statement that says up-front that you have no plans to reprint them and instead replace it with a statement that says that you have no plans to reprint them.

If you actually read the statement it doesn't state that they have no plans to print them, it says they have no plans to print them right now. Where as Vic stated that they don't have plans to print them ever. Those are two very different things and I am sorry if you don't understand that.


Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Pretty sure it's a CYA statement, like the about getting a complete set of minis if you buy a case: in case of human error, if someone doesn't get a complete set, they can't come back to Paizo and say, "Hey, you lied to me!"

If the official wording says "We will never compile another AP," and then they end up updating, say, CotCT for their 15th or 20th anniversary, then people can say, "Hey, you lied to us! You said you weren't going to do that!" They don't want to commit to doing or not doing anything indefinitely.


Brian E. Harris wrote:
pad300 wrote:
Econ Question for Vic Wertz. Would it be practical (and possibly cheaper for Paizo) to make a box set: The interior stuff could be the 6 AP modules, just with corrections from 3.5 to PF, almost no retypesetting needed. You could even go to a stapled not sewn/glued binding ilke the original red box set...
I believe that Lisa or Vic (or both) have stated in the past that box sets are not cheap at all - that, while cool, there is no cost savings in producing such a product over a hardcover.

Another problem with boxed sets is that they often don't fit into bookshelves. A minor inconvenience for many of us but much more of a hassle for book stores. I might remember things incorrectly, but I think someone wrote that some stores won't even sell boxed sets as a result, and even if they do, they might have to put them somewhere else instead of right next to the rest of the product range.

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Joana wrote:

Pretty sure it's a CYA statement, like the about getting a complete set of minis if you buy a case: in case of human error, if someone doesn't get a complete set, they can't come back to Paizo and say, "Hey, you lied to me!"

If the official wording says "We will never compile another AP," and then they end up updating, say, CotCT for their 15th or 20th anniversary, then people can say, "Hey, you lied to us! You said you weren't going to do that!" They don't want to commit to doing or not doing anything indefinitely.

Pretty much that. Saying "never" is never a good idea...

Spoiler:
Crap. Now I said it twice.

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