No, they become a unique type. They can modify it how they want with a series of menu-choice options, and they can pick 3 over the course of their 20 levels.

So.... About what time tomorrow can we non-subscribers get our grubby little hands on this lovely PDF??

And have any measures been taken to hopefully prevent some of the server overload issues that occurred with the UC PDF release?

1000th commenter so far! Where do I get my present? :P

I have a strong suspicion your "present" will be a deletion :)

I have a question in regards to release of the book. I went to my local bookstores (both my comic shop and major bookstore chain) looking to see if they have gotten copies of this book. They were checked at the store when they were expecting it and they said July 1st. I am wondering why that is? I mean my local bookstore is really good about having Pathfinder products. In fact until I started looking at the website regularly I usually just walked in and there was the latest release. So why is it the release date is so late?

Well, what I would do is something like this:

The race itself has an "inner demon" or whatever ability where they can transform into a fiendish state. The ability itself gives them something like 2 claw attacks and fire resistance 5. If you want the ability to be at-will, I'd price it at 2 RP (the cost of those two abilities). If you want it to be 1/day or rounds per day, I'd price it at 1 RP because its not too powerful and its restricted in use.

Then, I would start adding feats to modify the ability. It could look something like this:

Feat #1
Benefits: While unleashing your inner demon, your fire resistance increases by 5 and your claws and any weapons you wield are treated as flaming weapons.

Feat #2
Prerequisites: Feat #1
Benefit: While unleashing your inner demon, you surge with power, granting you the effects of a divine power spell for as long as you remain in this state. You also grow a pair of wings, granting you a 20 foot fly speed (clumsy).

Feat #3a
Prerequisites: Feat #2, Feat #1
Benefit: Your flight speed while your inner demon is unleashed increases to equal your base speed and your maneuverability improves to average.

Feat #3b
Prerequisites: Feat #2, Feat #1
Benefit: Your body becomes rugged and tough while your inner demon is unleashed, granting you a +1 natural armor bonus to your AC and granting you damage reduction 1/cold iron. This damage reduction improves by 1 for every 5 character levels that you possess. In addition, your fire resistance improves to 15.

Etc., etc.. This way, players who want to emphasize the transformation can, while players who want to play your race without having a +4 LA slapped on them can as well.

If the sheer amount of feats bothers you, make some archetypes that grant them as bonus feats as sort of an...

That could work. Have to really start going through the motions, re-reading the book, and figuring out the math for what's possible.

The street date for this book is June 20th (tomorrow) and retail stores should not be selling it before that time. I don't have any insight as to why your store is getting it later than that, though.

Hey, if someone would be so kind to this non-subscriber... could someone spoil some tidbits of the Vishkanya material.

Their rogue archetype... please, please, please tell me it replaces uncanny dodge and improved uncanny (It makes it available to ninjas then lol).

Any interesting feats or items and what type of favored class bonuses do they have.

I don't need the full write up but any tidbits would be really nice.

Hey, if someone would be so kind to this non-subscriber... could someone spoil some tidbits of the Vishkanya material.

Their rogue archetype... please, please, please tell me it replaces uncanny dodge and improved uncanny (It makes it available to ninjas then lol).

Any interesting feats or items and what type of favored class bonuses do they have.

I don't need the full write up but any tidbits would be really nice.

Only one of those are replaced.

The rogue favored class bonus makes them a bit more "slippery" in combat.

Would somebody mind spoiling the Grippli Favored Class bonuses? I'm really hoping for something cool for my Summoner =)

Would somebody mind spoiling the Grippli Favored Class bonuses? I'm really hoping for something cool for my Summoner =)

xevious573 wrote:

Hey, if someone would be so kind to this non-subscriber... could someone spoil some tidbits of the Vishkanya material.

Their rogue archetype... please, please, please tell me it replaces uncanny dodge and improved uncanny (It makes it available to ninjas then lol).

Any interesting feats or items and what type of favored class bonuses do they have.

I don't need the full write up but any tidbits would be really nice.

Only one of those are replaced.

The rogue favored class bonus makes them a bit more "slippery" in combat.

Thanks for the hints. I'm still worried that the rogue archetype might replace something else like trap sense or trap finding, making it incrementally more difficult for a ninja to take it but thanks for sparing a moment for me.

Ninjas can't take the Vishkanya rogue archetype, sorry!

Javaed wrote:

Would somebody mind spoiling the Grippli Favored Class bonuses? I'm really hoping for something cool for my Summoner =)

** spoiler omitted **

Thanks Azure Zero. I didn't really expect an alternative for every class, but I was hopeful.

*sad face* Ah well. Thanks for letting me know, Cheapy.

So is tomorrow 12AM..because if so I would be overjoyed.

Or you could release it a "little" early so those of us working overtime this evening could have something to read.

As this is the first book I've been interested enough in to want to get the pdf as soon as possible I am curious to know; will it be released at midnight (paizo time) or at some point during the day?

I feel like previous releases have been 8am PDT on release day. That's just what I remember, though.

Homebrew, ho!

Hey now, what more is homebrew than unpublished content?!

nighttree wrote:

Can anyone give a brief rundown of what's in there for the Gillmen ?

Anything that helps with the pesky dry skin ?

I would love to :)

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THANK YOU....that's full of awsome ;)

Yes, just got confirmation my package arrived!!!! Will have to pick it up after work!

Can't wait to see all the cool art everyone is been talking about!

Here it's now the 20th 00:29. I hope it's available when I wake up.

Blood of Fiends was released as early as 9AM EDT so who knows?

Book store here told me that the street date is July 1st. I know that's wrong, but is there is a reason they would have that in their database?

Is it tomorrow yet?! Two and a half hours have never crept by so slowly.

Thanks Liz! I love paizo and would order from you guys but if I don't support my locals I may never get those books. That local is what turned me on to you guys in the first place.

Can anyone give details on the following:

Alternative Racial Traits, Favored Class Alternatives, the Paladin Archetype, and any Feats for the Aasimar?

Any Alternative Racial Traits in this book that allows Elves to replace their Weapon Familiarity (and if so what do they do also)?

Many thanks in advance for those that do.

That local is what turned me on to you guys in the first place.

Comic/Miniature/Roleplaying Game Store Owners need love too. ^_^

Good for you for supporting your local shop. ^_^

Is it tomorrow yet?! Two and a half hours have never crept by so slowly.

Just be glad you don't have to wait until THURSDAY (USA EASTERN STANDARD TIME) to PURCHASE IT! (whimper)

Here it's now the 20th 00:29. I hope it's available when I wake up.

(Ninjas into Navarion's home and hovers over his bed near his ear)

goooo tooo sleeeeeeppp...gooo tooo sleeeeppp...gooo too sleeeppp my little Navarion...dreaaammmm ooofff...

(Navarion wakes up and stares at me for a few SUPREMELY awkward seconds)

<_<...>_>...(scuttles back into the darkness)

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Is it tomorrow yet?! Two and a half hours have never crept by so slowly.

Just be glad you don't have to wait until THURSDAY (USA EASTERN STANDARD TIME) to PURCHASE IT! (whimper)

You win, I don't think I could last another day without going stark-raving mad.

Berselius wrote:

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Is it tomorrow yet?! Two and a half hours have never crept by so slowly.

Just be glad you don't have to wait until THURSDAY (USA EASTERN STANDARD TIME) to PURCHASE IT! (whimper)

You win, I don't think I could last another day without going stark-raving mad.

That is nothing...I have to wait till Friday. It sucks waiting for payday

Approximately today? APPROXIMATELY TODAY? Baaaaaahhhh... Why do we insist on pinning our hopes on things we can never truly expect to achieve?

Why do we insist on pinning our hopes on things we can never truly expect to achieve?

Oh tell me whyyy? Do we build CASTLES IN THE SKY? Oh tell me whyyyy? All the castles WAY UP HIGH?

AHHHHH!!!! LEMME BUY IT!

Are you guys honestly suprised, they pull this stunt everytime, i wouldnt be suprised if they delayed it another week, and announced that on the day of release. Notoriously terrible with deadlines, and getting everyones hopes up just to crush them every time. Id love to be proved wrong though

You must not be talking about the same Paizo that I've been a customer of for 5+ years...

"PDF: Will be available for purchase approximately today."

You guys can't imagine how blessed the world is that I don't have levels of barbarian.

"PDF available today"
No it's not. It's not going to be available for another 8-9 hours.

I'm jamming a $10 bill into my disk drive and it's not giving me the pdf.

I'm not only gonna get the PFD, but I will probably get the book too. I'm actually more excited about this book than UM and UC, or perhaps my expectations are more down to earth this time.

Gonna get ultimate equipment as book and PDF for sure.

But, it really is the 20th and I still can't buy it as a pdf.

:(

Set your clocks to paizo standard time (PST).

But, it really is the 20th and I still can't buy it as a pdf.

:(

Paizo is running on Seattle time, where it's still 19th.

Set your clocks to paizo standard time (PST).

In the immortal words of Jim Morrison.

The Thing from Beyond the Edge wrote:

But, it really is the 20th and I still can't buy it as a pdf.

:(

Paizo is running on Seattle time, where it's still 19th.

But it IS the 20th.

:(

Edit Note: Yes, I understand the time difference. It is just killing me. Plus, I just finished working back 12s (1800 to 0600 EST) by getting off early tonight. Now, I am wide awake, but will need to be in bed beofre too long and I will not get up until not very long before going to work at 1530 EST which will leave me little to no time to buy and look at the ARG. So, it is really killing me that this has to wait.

It's up.

PDF obtained! It's like Christmahannukhwanzika all over again! Thank you Santa Paizo!
One more short sentence with an exclamation mark! And again! Woo!

It's up.

Yaaaay!

Now that I have it, I can go to bed. Except that, now that I have it, I can't go to bed. :D

Yay!

*sigh* Now, with the additional Age and Height/weight rules, a couple of the characters in our group have technically become illegal.
One almost 16-year-old street urchin tiefling rogue (Hey, even Blood of Fiends sported a 'roughly human lifespan' for Tieflings)
Our 5'10" changeling summoner (what happened to 'tall and slender'? 4'2" + 2d4 ain't exactly tall)...

Guess there are times I just have to pretend I didn't read some of the tables...