@jkmorrisx1,

Here is what Bill Webb had to say about the 15th chapter at the bottom of page 1:

"Tsar subscriptions were intended to make it possible to make other books--it was a risk to people, based on experiences like "Razor Coast"--and I want to reward the folks that stuck with us from the beginning. That being said, Tsar 14 completes the series...Chapter 15 is the lead in/transition to the next big series..involving a sharp object and stuff you breathe..written originally by me, and being rewritten by Greg."

The 15th chapter is a lead-in to another campaign. It will only be in the hard copy not PDF. That doesn't mean it won't appear later but not now.

BTW I am not associated with Frog God Games in any way. I am just a broke customer from all their products. Every time Bill announces another project my wallet screams.

just got this now.

i noticed that the 15th chapter is not in one of the PDFs.

does that mean it will not be available in PDF form, only the hardcover book?

or will the PDF be added later?

That's correct. The bonus chapter is for those who purchased the hardcover and thus will only be in print.

There will, however, be a compiled PDF of the new book without the 15th chapter.

Please don't be dis-heartened by this, however, as it's not essential to the storyline, it's more of a combined epilogue for Tsar and prologue for an upcoming project. If you do not have the compiled print version you still have an entire mega-adventure.

If things are still on schedule they should begin shipping in about 15 days (May 28th). Just saying.

Bill has the books now. I am flying to Seattle to sign them and help pack them for shipping over Memorial Day weekend, then we will be dropping them off at the post office en mass on May 29th (since the 28th is a holiday).

Against my better fiscal judgement I have preordered this tome. :) Steel_Wind 's review was enough to push me off the fence.

jkmorrisx1 wrote:

just got this now.

i noticed that the 15th chapter is not in one of the PDFs.

does that mean it will not be available in PDF form, only the hardcover book?

or will the PDF be added later?

That's correct. The bonus chapter is for those who purchased the hardcover and thus will only be in print.

okay good well i got the pdf/print bundle so i should be good!

BTW, my apologies in a post above for the attribution of Paizo's excellent Mines maps to Corey Macourek. Macourek is still a great artist on the flip-mat line. The artwork on the Map Pack: Mines, however, was by Jason Engle.

That doesn't change the fact that it's still Paizo's best Map Pack, imo. :)

I overordered about 300 copies on purpose--that way we will have them for sale for about 6 months or so. A reprint is HIGHLY unlikely

Its Wednesday and I have to wait until Friday until I can order. I hope I can still order by then.

BTW I'm diverting my Diablo 3 budget to this. At least I won't be forced to use an internet connection while playing this!

Its Wednesday and I have to wait until Friday until I can order. I hope I can still order by then.

BTW I'm diverting my Diablo 3 budget to this. At least I won't be forced to use an internet connection while playing this!

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Exactly! An interneet connection is entirely optional (if you ordered the hardcopy).

Weird, Noble Knight has the Hardcover up on Ebay already!!!

At first I thought it was a review copy, until I saw they listed more than ten copies. The auction closes mid-June, though, so they're probably figuring to get their order in by then.

Noble Knight pre-ordered some, yes. They cannot release until June.

Noble Knight pre-ordered some, yes. They cannot release until June.

I hope that they tell their customers that they will not be shipping the book for over two weeks with that buy it now option.

They have a estimated delivery date of between May 21 and May 25th.

Might just be a oversight on their part but could cause problems with their customers.

Two weeks left until the book goes up to full retail ($150) get it quick!

Two weeks left until the book goes up to full retail ($150) get it quick!

Bill, I know how much you hate shipping partly-full boxes. I would like to purchase both Slumbering Tsar and Rappan Athuk; in the interest of minimizing my shipping costs, would it be possible to "bundle" my shipment even if it meant waiting til RA ships? I guess another way of asking that would be if it would be possible to reserve my ST until I could get RA at the same time.

As much as I'd love to pledge $250 for RA, I'd much rather pledge $100 and buy ST at the same time!

I can't believe I just spent $125! You guys must have some hard-core voodoo to get me to do that! :-)

Oh well, at least your not going to kick me out of my book in the middle of the chapter like Diablo 3!

I can't believe I just spent $125! You guys must have some hard-core voodoo to get me to do that! :-)

Oh well, at least your not going to kick me out of my book in the middle of the chapter like Diablo 3!

there is some added content in Rappan Athuk that continues the Tsar saga...

Sorry, I had to.

SG

Macharius--sure--just buy at our site and remind me

Macharius--sure--just buy at our site and remind me

Bill, thank you very much for your quick reply!

Is there a lay-away plan?

You CAN buy the adventures individually.

I overordered about 300 copies on purpose--that way we will have them for sale for about 6 months or so. A reprint is HIGHLY unlikely

If this does well have you considered a Kickstarter project for a reprint?

Or a Kickstarter for Tomb of Abysthor?

I personally would rather seem them forge new grounds instead of continually reprinting the entire Necromancer Games back catalog.

(Although I'm still open to a partnership with Flying Buffalo for the COMPLETE Grimtooth's Traps.)

Maybe they could break down and give the Necromancer / Frog God world a name and publish a campaign setting.

Although their next project seems to be an NPC book, Pathfinder only. Might be the first FGG hardcover that I don't buy in dead-tree edition.

Maybe they could break down and give the Necromancer / Frog God world a name and publish a campaign setting.

Although their next project seems to be an NPC book, Pathfinder only. Might be the first FGG hardcover that I don't buy in dead-tree edition.

Would very much like to see more on the setting published. Where have you seen details on the npc book - I was assuming that Crucible of Freya / Tomb of Abysthor was on the reprint horizon?

Where have you seen details on the npc book

On the Froggy web

I would love to see a Campaign Guide for the world this is in.

At least a map of the locations and a bit about the surrounding area. I have everything from Necromancer Games but would love a little context.

One cool thing of re-visiting the catalog is that it allows them to fix/change all of the things that have bugged them, and the product is even more polished.

I personally would rather seem them forge new grounds instead of continually reprinting the entire Necromancer Games back catalog.

(Although I'm still open to a partnership with Flying Buffalo for the COMPLETE Grimtooth's Traps.)

Maybe they could break down and give the Necromancer / Frog God world a name and publish a campaign setting.

Although their next project seems to be an NPC book, Pathfinder only. Might be the first FGG hardcover that I don't buy in dead-tree edition.

Unusual Suspects is a softcover, not a hardcover. It's from John Ling and other Werecabbages.

Although their next project seems to be an NPC book, Pathfinder only. Might be the first FGG hardcover that I don't buy in dead-tree edition.

Might wanna let Blonde Frog know that the website currently says hardcover.

I personally would rather seem them forge new grounds instead of continually reprinting the entire Necromancer Games back catalog.

I'm with you. The reprinted stuff is good to see, but in my opinion the new stuff is more exciting (RA excepted, of course :)).

theneofish wrote:

Where have you seen details on the npc book

On the Froggy web

Ah, splendid, thanks. I missed that one.

Ok - I kinda have to ask this question.

I am considering both the Rappan Athuk Kickstarter and this book and it seems to combine shipping I would have to order via the Frog God website, but the only version I can find on that side is $25 more expensive than here @ Paizo.

Is this this correct version I am seeing?

I guess I will save on shipping, but by how much?

$25 is a lot of money on an already large order, which would stretch my wallet to breaking point I fear.

Yes, I bumped into the same thing. It is the only version. The Tsar is coming out in a week or so and RA is not going to be out until about August. Personally, I would not want to wait until August to get my Tsar so I could have them shipped together.

Just a note: I saw the print version of The Slumbering Tsar in the store last night. The dead tree version of this book is quite remarkable. Paper quality seemed thick and high quality, too and the printing appeared crisp.

But the thing which strikes you as the most remarkable is simply the sheer size of this book.

I think the last time I bought a book this thick -- and this large (8.5 x 11" format) was probably Black's Law Dictionary back in 1L. It's so big a book, that if you treated a book as an improvised weapon and ruled it as a "club"? Well, if so, this book has had shillelagh cast upon it.

REALLY, REALLY BIG BOOK. :P

Whoa, people have theirs already?

BTW, very good review Steel Wind!

What is the point of a pre-order if you are the last to get it? I wonder if those of us who are supporting RA through Kickstarter will get the same treatment?

Just because Steel Wind saw the book doesn't mean that he purchased it. The book has been shipped out to stores. It is my understanding that they cannot sell it until after Memorial Day weekend, and possibly April 1st, per instructions by Bill Webb.
Paizo likely has thier copies too. Steel Wind should perhaps not have made it sound like he's got his own personal copy yet. (Though we are appreciative of the time you took to do your review!) If a store has sold the book already it was not with FGG's permission.

Also, if you ordered the book directly from Frog God Games, Greg Vaughan is flying out to Seattle from his home to sign those copies. ONLY those who pre-ordered from us will get the signed copies of the book.

I'm not saying the retailer was supposed to put it out there on the shelf. We are all quite sure he wasn't. Nevertheless, he did. It's not FGG's fault that somebody broke the street date 6 days ahead of schedule when it was put on the shelf in Canada a week early.

With tax, it would have cost you about $173 USD to buy the one single copy that was for sale. I guess that would be the most obvious value of a pre-order, PF64.

I made it quite clear in my review that I was provided a PDF of the book to review and not the book itself. So the physical size of the book was something which was necessarily absent from my review. Now that I have held it, live-in-concert, it is all-that-and-a-bag-of-chips, too

Just because Steel Wind saw the book doesn't mean that he purchased it. The book has been shipped out to stores. It is my understanding that they cannot sell it until after Memorial Day weekend, and possibly April 1st, per instructions by Bill Webb.

Paizo likely has thier copies too. Steel Wind should perhaps not have made it sound like he's got his own personal copy yet. (Though we are appreciative of the time you took to do your review!) If a store has sold the book already it was not with FGG's permission.

Also, if you ordered the book directly from Frog God Games, Greg Vaughan is flying out to Seattle from his home to sign those copies. ONLY those who pre-ordered from us will get the signed copies of the book.

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Dawn,

If I missed it, when are the books suppose to start shipping out? Those of us who bought from FGG?

May 28th, I believe.

Dawn,

If I missed it, when are the books suppose to start shipping out? Those of us who bought from FGG?

The day after Memorial Day (when the Post Office opens), so Tuesday the 29th.

Ok, thanks!

Discussing sizes, how does this compare to The Complete Tome of Horrors and Monte Cook's Ptolus? I fear for my poor book shelves. :)

hmmm ... five days to go + whatever shipping time + customs probably ...

PDF Collection? So if I understand that correctly, it isn't 1 PDF, it's a bundle of several.

It is now a PDF of the final, large book absent the Bonus Chapter. (That's only ever to be in the print copies.)

But I'm not certain how they're doing things on Paizo's end of it.

Has there been any status updates on a ST map pack available through d20Pro's marketplace, or any HeroLab files for ST?