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Slumbering Tsar Saga (PFRPG)

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The Sleeper Awakes!
At last, after languishing in its crypt for an age, the secrets of the slumbering city of Tsar burst forth in all their macabre glory. Poured forth from the eldritch furnaces and crucibles of the Necromancer and Orcus himself comes Frog God Games bringing you at long last The Slumbering Tsar Saga.

Something Stirs in the City of Evil
Over the distant northern hills, beyond The Camp, and past the Desolation stand the pitted walls of Tsar. A hundred armies have crushed themselves against this bulwark in futile attempts to breach the city. Even the combined might of the Heavens and Earth were unable to break through in the final battle of Tsar. So why was the city suddenly abandoned on the verge of victory, and what waits for those foolish enough to enter the Temple-City of Orcus?

The Black Gates Await
Only the bravest and most powerful of heroes dare the depths of the Desolation and live to tell of it. But what happens when they penetrate that blasted landscape and look upon the gates of the very center of evil on the earth. Can even heroes of such renown breach the Walls of Death and live?

The Slumbering Tsar Saga began its journey years ago as a single mega-adventure for the masters of Third Edition rules and First Edition feel, then became a trilogy of adventures, then a trilogy of mega-adventures, and now finally comes to you as a monthly series culminating in a massive book with over a half million words of pure First Edition-style adventure. Updated to the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game to accommodate today’s audience of the classic fantasy roleplaying games, The Slumbering Tsar Saga brings you 14 chapters, each chapter the size of a full adventure in its own right (30-50 pages), but in the Hardcover compilation (and NOT in the PDF) you will get something you can't get anywhere else—the final fifteenth chapter!

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Shadow Lodge

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I'd just like to point out that the Paizo store does NOT say that you will receive the single PDF compilation. It quite blatantly refers to the PDF Collection. Neither company is looking bad, because each company has provided what their respective storefronts have advertised. It's likely that FGG will provide Paizo with the single PDF compilation at some point, but given that it is not promised on Paizo's site, I see no reason to blame either Paizo or Frog God Games for not having it at the moment.

Andoran

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PathfinderFan64 wrote:
It also makes the company that does not provide the material to the other company look bad.

To some. Others find the delay understandable.

Shadow Lodge

1 person marked this as a favorite.

Lesson: Expect what is actually promised, not what you hope you might get.


Fair enough comments I guess.

The reason I asked is that from the comments in this thread it seems that if we purchased through Paizo we would get the compiled PDF (particularly the last 2 comments on page 8).

Obviously some of us are more concerned about this that others, and whilst I personally am in no great rush for the compiled PDF, it would be nice to have to read on my Ipad.

I also understand that FGG have been very busy with their kickstarter, so other things may have taken a back seat a bit.

Not sure about making either of the companies look bad though - that seems a bit extreme.

Well, hopefully we will get the compiled PDF soon, once things have settled down at FGG HQ.


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This is just my two bits on the matter, but I recommend ordering FGG stuff through FGG. You normally get instant access to pdf versions of your products upon purchase. The Bytes Interactive site, from which you download the products, is easy to register with and use. The only complaint I've ever had with BI was them not having a backup person available to make the ST master pdf available for download when FGG provided it to them, while the normal guy took a two week vacation. Now, everyone can and should take vacations, but good business sense would have been for BI to prepare another staff member to be ready for incoming files while he (or she) was out-of-office.

A more worrisome situation is if BI is literally a one person shop. In this case, there is no continuity of operations in the event that an emergency arises with that one individual. That's not good for FGG, and not good for us, the end customer.

Overall, I give the Bytes Interactive service an above average rating for ease of use and availability; everytime I've tried to access it, it was up and running. However, when I see important parts (adding new files for download) of a company's services temporarily suspended because one individual is on vacation, it raises red flags.


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Dr. Johnny Fever wrote:
This is just my two bits on the matter, but I recommend ordering FGG stuff through FGG.

I agree with the bottom line (which you strangely put at the top <Grin>).

I dislike dealing with multiple storefronts and I'd far, far prefer to purchase my FGG product through Paizo's system but the fact is that FGG product line to date hasn't made that practical. Tome of Horrors? Oh, that's a pre-order product... I wanted it, so I ordered it immediately from FGG. Only [much] later it's announced Paizo will carry it. Oh well. Slumbering Tsar? Again, pre-order product, only afterward carried on Paizo. Rappan Athuk? Kickstarter. FGG just isn't focused on distribution through Paizo, so I'm saddled with whatever system they use. BI... meh, not a fan.

I'd far rather FGG partnered up more classically with Paizo. The way Dreamscarred Press works is just fine by me. Yes, you can order things through them, but it's immediately and reliably available over here too. SGG? Rite? All here.

Shadow Lodge

As much as I love FGG, I'm rather cool on Bytes Interactive. Aside from the fact that it seems to be a one-man operation with no backup when he's gone, files I have on their service seem to randomly disappear from time to time (S&W Complete isn't listed in my files currently), and there seems to be no notification system when a new file arrives or is updated (I found out about every single new chapter of Slumbering Tsar being online on these forums).

I have very little faith in them, to the point where for products that I'm going to buy in a digital-only format, I've decided I'll just wait until they're available either here at Paizo or at DriveThrRPG.

Andoran

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I'm also not enamored with the file delivery system. :/ I download everything as soon as possible to make sure I have my copy.

Taldor

For clarity, those of us who've bought the collection and now have all the .pdf's- is there actually any plan for them to be combined into a single file for easier use or not? Or are we just asking for it here? It would certainly be great if we could get said single .pdf.

Andoran

Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber

There IS a single file. I thought it was being delivered to Paizo for download from their servers, but apparently not, or is taking abnormally long.

Andoran

Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber

Here we are.

Liz Courts wrote:
Once the full PDF is available on Paizo's servers, I'll send out an email notifying customers of the update.

Shadow Lodge

I think they probably will get the single file, eventually. I think that they might have wanted the direct-from-FGG customers to have a small window of having the file before other sources were able to deliver. After all, there was a (justifiable) bit of disappointment/controversy when people who bought the Tome of Horrors Complete from Paizo had the PDF several days earlier than people who had pre-ordered from FGG months prior. Thanks to, once again, IIRC, a falling-down on the part of Bytes Interactive.

Taldor

Thanks Toz.


The reason I don't pre-order from companies that charge for the item before shipping is the problem of them going out of business before delivering the product and never getting the money back. Happens all the time. You only have 30 days protection with credit card orders to protest the charge if the item is never shipped.


I'm a bookman so I don't bother with all this PDF crap. When the power goes out, I can still still play my RPG's to candlelight.

Shadow Lodge

Books are a lot harder to take on deployment. :)

Layout and Design, Frog God Games

I can say with 100-percent confidence that Bill Webb (CEO and primary owner of Frog God Games and Necromancer Games) would refund all money if a product isn't delivered.

I know that you don't know us, PFF64, but a lot of people do and trust us. Hell, the company was created to produce Slumbering Tsar because Bill felt responsibility to get the book to print (it was cancelled by Necromancer after the announcement of 4th Edition and the rights to print given back to Greg).

Like I said, you don't know me from Adam and don't have to take my word on the integrity of the company that I am a part of, but please give us a fair shake before condemnation.

Layout and Design, Frog God Games

I have also personally made sure that Paizo has their hands on the PDF in question.


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SuperSlayer wrote:
I'm a bookman so I don't bother with all this PDF crap. When the power goes out, I can still still play my RPG's to candlelight.

I know you don't mean to be condescending, but I've got to protest your usage of the word "crap". In and of itself I don't find that word offensive, but in context you're pretty strongly expressing that you think PDFs are... without merit.

Dude.

My Tsar plan involves copying all the art to standalone files, viewable on a little tablet device. That way I can show my players things without the rest of the page being visible. No names, no statblocks, no CRs, nothing.

I can also make high-quality printouts of the player handouts, instead of adequate-but-poor photocopies. I can even doctor those if I want.

I can copy & paste statblocks and edit them, conveniently.

Basically while I'll run the adventure out of the physical book, PDFs are awesome (as in, un-crap) as companion products. While your personal game-table habits might not currently use these techniques, they're valid, useful tricks. I don't use electronic anything at the table, and I discourage players from doing so. (I'll be making an exception for the art in Tsar.) Still, electronics for prep are cool.

Thoughts to consider.


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I was "meh" on PDFs until I got an iPad. Now I can't imagine gaming without them!


Noble Knight already selling this on ebay for 129

Paizo Employee Webstore Gninja Minion

Chuck: Thanks for getting that PDF to us! I'll be sending out emails shortly for everybody notifying them of changes to their downloads.

Cheliax

Got the email, still waiting for the download to appear. But awesome!

EDIT: Oops, the link is there. Easy to miss, it's jsut titled 'Saga' under the Slumbering Tsar heading.

Taldor

Not got the e-mail yet nor is the download available.


Anguish wrote:
SuperSlayer wrote:
I'm a bookman so I don't bother with all this PDF crap. When the power goes out, I can still still play my RPG's to candlelight.

I know you don't mean to be condescending, but I've got to protest your usage of the word "crap". In and of itself I don't find that word offensive, but in context you're pretty strongly expressing that you think PDFs are... without merit.

Dude.

My Tsar plan involves copying all the art to standalone files, viewable on a little tablet device. That way I can show my players things without the rest of the page being visible. No names, no statblocks, no CRs, nothing.

I can also make high-quality printouts of the player handouts, instead of adequate-but-poor photocopies. I can even doctor those if I want.

I can copy & paste statblocks and edit them, conveniently.

Basically while I'll run the adventure out of the physical book, PDFs are awesome (as in, un-crap) as companion products. While your personal game-table habits might not currently use these techniques, they're valid, useful tricks. I don't use electronic anything at the table, and I discourage players from doing so. (I'll be making an exception for the art in Tsar.) Still, electronics for prep are cool.

Thoughts to consider.

I'm glad you found some use for the PDF. I always order these books that come with the PDF and I never touch the PDF. I have unused PDF's all over the place. I don't like PDF's and I won't use them.

RPG Superstar 2011 Top 16

Question about the module:

What is the expectation for visibility of items from the road? I'm guessing that the first thing the PCs will do is set off and look for the Bard's Gate caravan, or otherwise follow the road. This takes them between the Dead Fields and the Ashen Wastes, the latter of which has dust-storms that make it difficult to see anything. Are they supposed to see something off the side of the road, and become curious, or are they supposed to just want to head deep into the unknown and hope something presents itself?

I'm not sure how/why the PCs would go into the Ashen Waste at all. (Other than hiring the Furious Fourteen and being led into the Reclaimers.)
Chaos Rift? It physically blocks the road north, so it naturally tempts the PCs to explore it. Also, the caravan clues lead there.
Boiling Lands or Dead Fields? It's adjacent to Tsar, so PCs have to go through one or the other to check out the walls.

Speaking of "adjacent to Tsar": is the Tar Dragon only gaurding the way in the Dead Fields, or is he also in the Boiling Lands? The map seems to suggest he's only in the south, but the descriptive text seems to suggest he blocks all enterance.

Thanks!

Shadow Lodge

SuperSlayer wrote:
I'm glad you found some use for the PDF. I always order these books that come with the PDF and I never touch the PDF. I have unused PDF's all over the place. I don't like PDF's and I won't use them.

Not even for handouts? You'd rather shove a 1000 page book onto a photocopier than have the convenience of just hitting "Print" and then specifiying a page range?


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I'm 40 years old and grew up on dead tree versions of everything. Until only a couple of years ago I was dead set against most electronic versions of my precious gaming supplements. Then, a couple of years ago, my wife convinced me to try reading pdf versions of some of these products on her iPad.

Two days later I had bought myself an iPad and now I actually look forward to the pdf releases of the products that I've purchased more than the paper copies. Here's why:

1. I get my stuff quicker. I'm not waiting the extra 1 - 2 weeks for my paper copy to arrive in the mail.

2. I can get the newest versions of the product, often with updated errata included, so that I don't show up to a gaming session with a completely outdated version of a rule or other feature.

3. It's just more convenient for me to bring an iPad and maybe a laptop to a game session than it is for me to bring the 5-10 books that I always seem to need.

Do I still buy the paper copy? Absolutely. There are times that I still want the feel of a good book in my hands. Of course, I can only hold ST for about 10 minutes at a time before forearm strain sets in...

Qadira

Dr. Johnny Fever wrote:
3. It's just more convenient for me to bring an iPad and maybe a laptop to a game session than it is for me to bring the 5-10 books that I always seem to need.

I agree with everything you said, but this needed a +1000

Despite having a gameroom in my house with a huge library, my gaming group is kind of scattered across the state, so we almost never end up gaming at my house. I used to fill my trunk with what I needed. Subtracting the books from that equation has made my (gaming) life a thousand times easier.

Now... if only diapers, toys, carseats, and changes of clothes came in pdf format as well...

Cheliax

Erik Freund wrote:

Question about the module:

What is the expectation for visibility of items from the road? I'm guessing that the first thing the PCs will do is set off and look for the Bard's Gate caravan, or otherwise follow the road. This takes them between the Dead Fields and the Ashen Wastes, the latter of which has dust-storms that make it difficult to see anything. Are they supposed to see something off the side of the road, and become curious, or are they supposed to just want to head deep into the unknown and hope something presents itself?

I'm running it now and this is what I did. As they traveled the Ashen Waste, I rolled perecentile for visibility based on weather. And then if they were within a few miles of a land mark and rolled a decent perception, I would say "You see something breaking the horizon off in the distance."

Quote:

I'm not sure how/why the PCs would go into the Ashen Waste at all. (Other than hiring the Furious Fourteen and being led into the Reclaimers.)

Chaos Rift? It physically blocks the road north, so it naturally tempts the PCs to explore it. Also, the caravan clues lead there.
Boiling Lands or Dead Fields? It's adjacent to Tsar, so PCs have to go through one or the other to check out the walls.

Spoiler:
My players hired the rangers and were led to the reclaimers as a 'safe spot'. My one player has a barbarian, so I threw in a hook that during an NPC conversation he heard of the barbarian hero Tark, who was buried in the Wastes. That gave him a personal reason to go searching for it in the waste. Seeing the objects on the horizon gave them a general incentive to explore, they just finished Argos' tomb yesterday.
Quote:

Speaking of "adjacent to Tsar": is the Tar Dragon only gaurding the way in the Dead Fields, or is he also in the Boiling Lands? The map seems to suggest he's only in the south, but the descriptive text seems to suggest he blocks all enterance.

Thanks!

Spoiler:
I plan on having the Tar Dragon attack near ANY entrance to the city. For my campaign, he is serving as the chokepoint obstacle to be surpassed. A real 'boss', as I think he is intended to be.
Andoran

Looking at starting a new campaign in about 2-3 week, and I am really looking forward to running this as part of it. As this book starts at Level 7, I was wondering if there are any suggestions on a published campaign, set of modules, or adventure path that currently exists, that would be fitting to run an adventuring group from Levels 1-7 that I could lead into this without major rewrites.

Cheliax

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Baraccus wrote:
Looking at starting a new campaign in about 2-3 week, and I am really looking forward to running this as part of it. As this book starts at Level 7, I was wondering if there are any suggestions on a published campaign, set of modules, or adventure path that currently exists, that would be fitting to run an adventuring group from Levels 1-7 that I could lead into this without major rewrites.

There are multiple suggestions in this thread on what people have or are going to run to get the characters up to that level.


bigkilla wrote:


There are multiple suggestions in this thread on what people have or are going to run to get the characters up to that level.

My suggestions if I was going to run this... ;)

Tomb of Abysthor
or
Lost City of Barakus

I'm kind of partial to LCoB but both would give it a classic Necro feel. :)
Both are 3E/3.5 but convert easily with a little work.

Andoran

Ahhh...got it. Takes some time to read this thread from start to end. :-)

Purchased and downloaded 'The Crucible of Freya', 'Tomb of Abysthor', and 'Lost City of Barakus'. Will read them through and see what will be easier to work with.

Thank you. ;-)


Is this going to be available for the foreseeable future? I want it, but I am completely broke atm.I

Paizo Employee Webstore Gninja Minion

It's still available at this moment, and should be for a while longer yet.

Shadow Lodge

If I order the $90 pdf, it is one file, or can we download each of the 14 chapters seperatly?


Derekjr wrote:
If I order the $90 pdf, it is one file, or can we download each of the 14 chapters seperatly?

It should be both.

Paizo Employee Webstore Gninja Minion

Before the single PDF was available, you received the 13 chapters as individual downloads. The PDF is the single PDF (minus the bonus chapter that is only contained in the print version).

Taldor

Liz, when I bought the product I downloaded the 13 chapters. This is of course, something of a PITA. Should I be able to get the single pdf now?


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Has anyone (or a group of anyones) begun putting together HeroLab files for Slumbering Tsar encounters/NPCs? Obviously it would be a monumental task, but taken a few at a time, by a group of people, it would be doable in a reasonable amount of time. Just wondered if anyone knew whether an effort like this was already underway...

Taldor

If/when I run it as a PbP i'll likely be doing it.


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Alexander Kilcoyne wrote:
If/when I run it as a PbP i'll likely be doing it.

Good to know. I'm co-GMing a Skull and Shackles campaign right now, but it's already part way through S&S 4, so hopefully in a couple of months it should wrap up. After that, Slumbering Tsar has a good chance of being our next campaign. If that's the case I'll ping the boards to see if we can't all consolidate what we've come up with and maybe break up the remaining ones to try and ease the pain a little.


Is the single PDF download going to be made available. I still have the PDF collection and not the single PDF download.


Speaking purely for myself:

Yes, the single-volume PDF is available. It's called "Saga", and is listed immediately after Slumbering Tsar #14 in My Downloads.

Andoran

Macharius wrote:

Speaking purely for myself:

Yes, the single-volume PDF is available. It's called "Saga", and is listed immediately after Slumbering Tsar #14 in My Downloads.

I do not have this Saga download, though I do have the other 14.

Unrelated question. What is this Companion Coloring book?

Paizo Employee Webstore Gninja Minion

The coloring book was sold at PaizoCon, with lots of things to color as well as puzzles and mazes and whatnot. It's pretty darn awesome. :D


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Well, it just happened. Slumbering Tsar dealt my party a TPK.

They hadn't gotten very far; it was their first foray into the Chaos Rift, having previously stuck fearfully to the southern regions of the Desolation. So of course, on their first trek north (into Old Death's lair), they were done in by...

Spoiler:
the abyssal greater basilisk

...the group is moving onto a different campaign, which is disappointing; I was having a lot of fun watching a party of seven, most of them optimizers, be scared silly by this campaign!


Greetings all. First time poster....

This thread convinced me to bite the big one and order the Hardcover for my birthday. I have never ran an adventure path (usually made my own) but a busy life is pushing me to forgo so I picked up Rise of the Runelords and this.

I told my wife I was just going to order a book for my birthday, and she said go ahead - I neglected to mention the cost - which means that if the campaign doesn't kill me, she probably will.

That said - really looking forwards to getting this in the mail.

Thanks to everybody who pushed me over the edge!

ET


Laschoni wrote:
Macharius wrote:

Speaking purely for myself:

Yes, the single-volume PDF is available. It's called "Saga", and is listed immediately after Slumbering Tsar #14 in My Downloads.

I do not have this Saga download, though I do have the other 14.

I bought the print/PDF bundle when it was a pre-order special. Otherwise, I'm not sure what to tell you.

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