Has there been any announcement of which monsters and characters will make it into this set?
I'm hoping that there'll be a v------- a------- but I'm afraid to say it out loud and jinx it.
26 pages of people arguing about whether or not randomized minatures are a good business model, wow.
I almost feel like actually discussing the product itself would be out of place by this point, but has there been any announcement of which monsters and characters will make it into this set?
Not really. Buried in the 26 pages are a couple of times that Paizo has said WizKids tends not to release the set list until almost release date. So we have no definite list, nor a definite date for a list. There are the preview images above, but that's it for now.
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26 pages of people arguing about whether or not randomized minatures are a good business model, wow.
I almost feel like actually discussing the product itself would be out of place by this point, but has there been any announcement of which monsters and characters will make it into this set?
It sounds like a good point, but it actually goes beyond the virtues of what is a good business model. Paizo has announced that they will be releasing Adventure Packs where all the miniatures in the packs will be known. Plus Paizo and other retailers will be bursting boosters and selling every miniature individually. The problem is the incessant complaining about the Random format from so many, when another format will be available to all. The main point is the COMPLAINING PART. We should all be very happy that Paizo/Wizkids are filling a much needed void in the hobby. I think the root cause of the complaining may be that it will cost money at at time when a lot people do not have the money. It is something many of us want, but not all of those that want can afford.
Over 26 pages there have been many post about the miniatures and some clues and spoilers have been given. You may have missed the image of the wingless Chimera (Green Dragon) and the later resolution by Paizo that it will have wings. The wingless Chimera image was then removed from the thread. And as noted above there will be goblins, orcs, skeletons, ogres and some of the monsters you would see in the Basic Game's pawns. We have had those discussions too. ;)
Later,
Mazra
Note to Paizo: Could we get maybe a peak at one more miniature? This could spark a bit more discussion about the actual set. ;)
Sorry if this has been posted before, but there seems to be some new info on the latest Chronicles:Pathfinder Podcast. There is a short interview with Erik Mona, where he indicates that there are 6 small minis in the set. 4 different Goblins, 1 Dire Rat, and 1 Gnome fighter. He also mentions an Ogre, which while predictable, I don't think has been mentioned before.
So if the info is accurate, it means 6 small minis, and we can guess no more than 12 large. This means at least 22 medium depending on the exact number of large figures.
Anyway, check it out, I could have possibly misunderstood.
Don't forget about those possible Huge and Gargantuan minis. :D
Seriously though, haven't heard anything along those lines (for this set).
the only huge for this set is the black dragon if you buy the case.Don't forget about those possible Huge and Gargantuan minis. :D
Seriously though, haven't heard anything along those lines (for this set).
Yes, I know. I was kidding. Reason for the grin smiley. It was more wishful thinking (hoping).
Sorry if this has been posted before, but there seems to be some new info on the latest Chronicles:Pathfinder Podcast. There is a short interview with Erik Mona, where he indicates that there are 6 small minis in the set. 4 different Goblins, 1 Dire Rat, and 1 Gnome fighter. He also mentions an Ogre, which while predictable, I don't think has been mentioned before.
So if the info is accurate, it means 6 small minis, and we can guess no more than 12 large. This means at least 22 medium depending on the exact number of large figures.
Anyway, check it out, I could have possibly misunderstood.
Don't forget about those possible Huge and Gargantuan minis. :D
Seriously though, haven't heard anything along those lines (for this set).
Gencon they mentioned needing to figure out how to do these for the Runelords set. There are so many and it was so early in the process for designing the set that they weren't sure what would be in it, but the initial list had many big minis.
Sorry if this has been posted before, but there seems to be some new info on the latest Chronicles:Pathfinder Podcast. There is a short interview with Erik Mona, where he indicates that there are 6 small minis in the set. 4 different Goblins, 1 Dire Rat, and 1 Gnome fighter. He also mentions an Ogre, which while predictable, I don't think has been mentioned before.
So if the info is accurate, it means 6 small minis, and we can guess no more than 12 large. This means at least 22 medium depending on the exact number of large figures.
Anyway, check it out, I could have possibly misunderstood.
That is kind of disappointing. 6 smalls and 2/3 of them are the same type of creature (I know there will be different models, but still). I'd would have rather gotten a kobold and a halfling or a mephit and 2 less goblin molds. I hope they don't drop in another 4 goblins into the Runelord set.
Gencon they mentioned needing to figure out how to do these for the Runelords set. There are so many and it was so early in the process for designing the set that they weren't sure what would be in it, but the initial list had many big minis.
Yes, I remember them mentioning that. You are referring to the Future of Paizo seminar, correct?
It will be interesting to see how they handle the RotR set. For those who have played the AP, how many Huge/Gargantuan/Colossal monsters are there? Or at least how many that is truly relevant? I know there are the Runelords themselves, but what else? I’ve never played the AP.
I've never played an MMO, but I used to MUD a lot. "back then" mob was used for any non player creature and was an abbreviation of mobile.
He wasn't what I call serious in any fashion.There's a sign that lets people know I'm not being serious:
When I'm not being serious, I post.
But then again, I don't like the more silly parts of MMO speak. A single creature isn't a mob. A mob is a number of people - or the Mafia. So unless a critter has lots of friends around (and maybe wears Armani suits) and attacks all at once, don't call it a mob. :P
The guy from the union came over and said it still doesn't count. I don't know what his stake is in this, but he said he'd consider it a favour not to use it.
He went away mumbling about pig farms.
The one thing I hope WizKids accomplishes that DDM never did: consistent scale. I have DDM figures that are all over the place in scale; 25mm to 33mm, dwarves taller than humans, near-halfling sized humans.....I'm sure everyone is familiar with the problem. Please WizKids, pick a scale and stick with it!
Regards,
V
I think the "official" title was "CHS" (corn-fed human syndrome)
That is kind of disappointing. 6 smalls and 2/3 of them are the same type of creature (I know there will be different models, but still). I'd would have rather gotten a kobold and a halfling or a mephit and 2 less goblin molds. I hope they don't drop in another 4 goblins into the Runelord set.Sorry if this has been posted before, but there seems to be some new info on the latest Chronicles:Pathfinder Podcast. There is a short interview with Erik Mona, where he indicates that there are 6 small minis in the set. 4 different Goblins, 1 Dire Rat, and 1 Gnome fighter. He also mentions an Ogre, which while predictable, I don't think has been mentioned before.
So if the info is accurate, it means 6 small minis, and we can guess no more than 12 large. This means at least 22 medium depending on the exact number of large figures.
Anyway, check it out, I could have possibly misunderstood.
Yes, I was hoping for at least a kobold and a halfling as well. Maybe those numbers and creature types will change yet.
:D Kaeyoss I defiantly knew you were kidding around as soon as I saw your post. Please forgive my use of mmo jargon as it was nearly 2am and at the end of a long day.
As long as it will *never* happen again, I think we can skip the disciplinary measures. I'll put the paddles away again.
I have been a gamer (you know the kind that roll dice and stuff I still hate that those pesky video game players co-opted our name for themselves;P)for about 30 years now so I am hardly a newcomer.
I get it, you're real old. You've been playing since before I was born, you had to carve your own dice, you had to walk on foot to your hobby store, which was 10 miles away, in the snow, and uphill (both ways) yada yada yada :P
I just want good sculpts representative of pathfinder's art style of useful critters that are not readily available.
I guess we all want that.
Of course, there will also be old classics. We will have orcs and human skeletons. Just because others made those doesn't mean they can just ignore them.
However, those will be PF orcs. PF goblins. PF everything. I think that's a huge plus.
DDM has several cool options but I am not shelling out the inflated price on most of them because they made um rare or have some super keen ability in the skirmish game.
Plus, most are probably out of print. And the newer stuff is 4e nonsense. Undersized landsharks, weird bugswarm ladies who stole the lamias' credit cards and use their names, nonsense like that.
So yeah I am really hoping this line has a lot of what I as a GM am looking for.
Since I think GMs are actually the number one customers for this stuff, we should get what we need.
Free shipping only to the US. I wonder how and for how much they'd ship overseas.That would be MiniatureMarket.com selling the case for $200 +free shipping and the case w/dragon for $215 +free shipping.Well I did it. I broke down and preorder a case.
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I'm not particularly comfortable discussing another online store's prices here ...
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I went and ordered a second case with this deal. I was debating on ordering a second case anyways, but with this price, a $15 dragon (I am guessing it will be more) and free shipping, I couldn’t pass it up.
I still have my first case preordered through Pazio, as well. I am sure they get percentage of profits of all minis (including cases sold), but want to show my support through them directly, as well.
Gencon they mentioned needing to figure out how to do these for the Runelords set. There are so many and it was so early in the process for designing the set that they weren't sure what would be in it, but the initial list had many big minis.Yes, I remember them mentioning that. You are referring to the Future of Paizo seminar, correct?
It will be interesting to see how they handle the RotR set. For those who have played the AP, how many Huge/Gargantuan/Colossal monsters are there? Or at least how many that is truly relevant? I know there are the Runelords themselves, but what else? I’ve never played the AP.
There are quite a few Huge or bigger monsters in RotR. The best example being the Rune Giants, which are Gargantuan. In books 5 and 6 I count 1 Colossal, 9 Gargantuan, and 34 Huges (some of those are doubles, that is the grand totals of each size).
There are quite a few Huge or bigger monsters in RotR. The best example being the Rune Giants, which are Gargantuan. In books 5 and 6 I count 1 Colossal, 9 Gargantuan, and 34 Huges (some of those are doubles, that is the grand totals of each size).Gencon they mentioned needing to figure out how to do these for the Runelords set. There are so many and it was so early in the process for designing the set that they weren't sure what would be in it, but the initial list had many big minis.Yes, I remember them mentioning that. You are referring to the Future of Paizo seminar, correct?
It will be interesting to see how they handle the RotR set. For those who have played the AP, how many Huge/Gargantuan/Colossal monsters are there? Or at least how many that is truly relevant? I know there are the Runelords themselves, but what else? I’ve never played the AP.
Oh wow. Ok, quite a few then.
I doubt we’ll see ALL the different large sizes (especially all the huge sized creatures), but would be nice to see the Colossal and a few of the Gargantuans.
It definitely will be interesting how that will be handled as anything Gargantuan and above would of course have it’s own box. I guess if they do come out with those Gargantuan(s) and the Colossal, I wonder if they would have their own number, as part of the 60 mini set. Anything sold that big before was usually on it’s own, an ‘Iconic’, and not part of any actual ‘set’ (at least from what I recall). Really curious on seeing how WizKids/Paizo handle it.
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Hey all, post 1272 here.
Anyhow, I'm pre-ordering in the case size, but... have just a few questions...
First, let me say that I saw the quality of these minis over in GENCON, they look fantastic. I encourage everyone to support the mini-making partnership for Pathfinder RPG to really increase chances of continued, cost-effective line of these products. Forgive me if the following questions have already been answered:
Q1. Does the black dragon come automatically within a case? In other words, might a black dragon not be included if purchased elsewhere?
Q2. What is the total number of figures, including variance for the 1m or 2sm thing? A case having 64 standard boosters gets exactly (x to y) what range of miniatures? Or is a case guaranteed to get a finite amt?
Q3. Is there a benefit to PAIZO whether the cases are purchased directly, or through other channels such as websites or flgs? I just want to support PAZIO in the best way I can.
Q4. Will there be bunches of plastic and cardboard in my case around each individual pack? I assume so. Might there be a simple way to buy a case of just the minis without all the fanfare and material waste in the future?
Thanks,
Pax
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Q1. Does the black dragon come automatically within a case? In other words, might a black dragon not be included if purchased elsewhere?
It is shipped to the retail establishment automatically when they preorder a case. They are not required to combine it with a case preorder however.
Q2. What is the total number of figures, including variance for the 1m or 2sm thing? A case having 64 standard boosters gets exactly (x to y) what range of miniatures? Or is a case guaranteed to get a finite amt?
There are 40 sculpts + the black dragon. only thing we've heard is a VERY good chance on gettign complete set (rumor is only 6 smalls)
Q3. Is there a benefit to PAIZO whether the cases are purchased directly, or through other channels such as websites or flgs? I just want to support PAZIO in the best way I can.
I bet they get a higher % if bought through them, but as long as the license continues, they make $
Q4. Will there be bunches of plastic and cardboard in my case around each individual pack? I assume so. Might there be a simple way to buy a case of just the minis without all the fanfare and material waste in the future?
I'll wait for someone in the know on that one
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I think the "official" title was "CHS" (corn-fed human syndrome)The one thing I hope WizKids accomplishes that DDM never did: consistent scale. I have DDM figures that are all over the place in scale; 25mm to 33mm, dwarves taller than humans, near-halfling sized humans.....I'm sure everyone is familiar with the problem. Please WizKids, pick a scale and stick with it!
Regards,
V
I thought it was SCS (steroids in the chicken syndrome). And some like Ragnara, Psychic Warrior from the DDM Archfiends set suffered both syndromes.
Put my vote in for consistency in the scale of the miniatures. It would be appreciated by all.
Later,
Mazra
I would guess that Paizo probably makes out better by people purchasing directly from them. On the other hand, in the long term, the more retailers (whether online or not), that are motivated to stock the miniatures, the more health the line will be I would imagine.
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Q4. Will there be bunches of plastic and cardboard in my case around each individual pack? I assume so. Might there be a simple way to buy a case of just the minis without all the fanfare and material waste in the future?
Thanks,
Pax
I think I will venture an educated guess here. Having purchased cases of Wizkid's Mage Knights sets, the miniatures had fragile elements. With shipping from China considered, it is better to receive the figure whole and without broken parts. Now WotC used a type of plastic that was bendy and less brittle. Yet, they still needed some plastic supports on many of the pieces. Since Paizo is thankfully insistent on quality, my guess would be there will be more than adequate packaging to insure us receiving the miniatures intact whether we are in the US, Canada, Europe or anywhere. Like it or not, PPMs are not generally a "green" enterprise. Now many retailers including Paizo will be bursting booster and selling miniatures individually. I doubt you will get the random packaging in this case. Instead you will likely get a bigger cardboard box with a bunch of packing peanuts. I am not sure that is better. Bottom line is I doubt there would be a simpler or cost effective way to do this, and to insure that the miniatures are not damaged in shipping. Maybe Wizkids has found a revolutionary and cost effective method that may save some trees and fossil fuels.
Later,
Mazra
Hey all, post 1272 here.
Q1. Does the black dragon come automatically within a case? In other words, might a black dragon not be included if purchased elsewhere?
Welcome 1272. Nice to meet you.
A1. With everything that's been written so far, my understanding is no. Note that this contradicts what Cpt_kirstov wrote above. There isn't concrete detail on how the special edition dragon will be made available, but Vic said that historically WizKids have made the specials available as an optional purchase to retailers on a 1:1 basis. Optional being the key word. It is not automatic, and it is not free, at least if the past is used to predict the future.Q2. What is the total number of figures, including variance for the 1m or 2sm thing? A case having 64 standard boosters gets exactly (x to y) what range of miniatures? Or is a case guaranteed to get a finite amt?
A2. The case contains 12 Large minis and 64 boosters. The boosters are distributed on a random basis and consist of either one Medium or two Small miniatures. As such, each case will be different. Each case contains enough redundancy that you should get each of the 40 available molds despite the random nature. There is no announced set mixture rate of Medium to Small boosters.
Q3. Is there a benefit to PAIZO whether the cases are purchased directly, or through other channels such as websites or flgs? I just want to support PAZIO in the best way I can.
A3. Speculation only, but I'd imagine Paizo gets to get a retailer mark-up if you buy from them. If you buy from any other retailer, that retailer makes their mark-up and all Paizo gets is whatever royalty allowance they negotiated with WizKids.
Q4. Will there be bunches of plastic and cardboard in my case around each individual pack? I assume so. Might there be a simple way to buy a case of just the minis without all the fanfare and material waste in the future?
A4. There's no word so far on this at all. It's been asked, and it's understandable, but I think the odds on a packaging-light distribution is highly unlikely. The minis are going to come from China packaged, I'm sure. Someone else would have to unpackage them for you, then recycle the materials. You'd pay extra for labour. In fact... if you'd like to ship a case to me...
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Since Paizo is thankfully insistent on quality, my guess would be there will be more than adequate packaging to insure us receiving the miniatures intact whether we are in the US, Canada, Europe or anywhere.
Wizkids has also significantly changed the way it packs the minis within a booster to better protect them.
Q1. Does the black dragon come automatically within a case? In other words, might a black dragon not be included if purchased elsewhere?
Nope, whole different animal. They're not part of the set itself. The huge black is an incentive. As far as I know, retailers who buy whole cases will get the option for a black dragon for each case (more or less - the number of these dragons might be limited, and it's on a first come, first served basis).
The retailers, then, can do whatever they want with those dragons. They can give them away to those who buy cases, or sell them, or make prices out of them, or use them to seduce people to the dark side.
Some shops (one I have seen - the link is further up. miniaturesmarket.com I think) have a "whole case" and a "whole case plus dragon" offer (for 200 w/o and 215 with dragon).
Paizo is still considering things. In all likelihood, you need to buy a case for each dragon, but whether we have to pay extra, or maybe get them as bonus for subscribing (there are no real details for subscriptions, either), or something else, is unknown.
Q2. What is the total number of figures, including variance for the 1m or 2sm thing? A case having 64 standard boosters gets exactly (x to y) what range of miniatures? Or is a case guaranteed to get a finite amt?
We know there are 40 different figures in the set. Rumour has it that there are 6 small critters in it, and logic dictates that there cannot be more than 12 large figures in the set, probably less than that. We don't know how many rarity steps there will be and what the distribution will be.
The case has 64 standard boosters and 12 large boosters. A standard booster has 1 medium or 2 small minis in it. How many boosters are what hasn't been revealed. It might be that there are fixed sets of 2 small minis that will always be encountered in a pair, or they're mixed wildly.
So going from these numbers, the case will have between 76 to 140 minis in it (though either extreme is highly unlikely).
Note that they not quite guarantee that a case will have a complete set of figures (plus duplicates) in it. "Not quite" because humans are involved, and the buggers are not completely error-proof.
Q3. Is there a benefit to PAIZO whether the cases are purchased directly, or through other channels such as websites or flgs? I just want to support PAZIO in the best way I can.
Paizo buys them directly from WizKids, as far as I know. there is no middle-man, so they probably get a decent price. The only "downside" is that they won't get paid royalties for the stuff they buy themselves (no double-dipping), though they might get a better price then others.
So when Paizo sells boosters, bricks or cases (or singles - they're going to sell singles they break out of boosters themselves), the difference between the price you paid and their net cost will be their profit span.
That should be significantly higher than the royalties they get from stuff selled elsewhere.
Q4. Will there be bunches of plastic and cardboard in my case around each individual pack? I assume so. Might there be a simple way to buy a case of just the minis without all the fanfare and material waste in the future?
Yes, there will be individual packaging. A case is simply the packing unit boosters are shipped to retailers in (well, not quite, the randomisation isn't really random in a case - see above). Distributors and retailers buy by the case, and then open it, take out the boosters, and sell them.
Of course, getting whole cases is advantageous for collectors, completionists, and others who want to buy in bulk and get the advantage of bulk purchase. However, there is "case worth of minis in one bigger, more environmentally friendly packaging" available yet. It might never happen.
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This is what I'm hoping for. The price tag on the case prevents me from buying one (because I don't want my wife to murder me). But she might be more reasonable if I were to buy just the dragon itself.I expect that we'll be able to guarantee that case preorderers will also be able to acquire the dragon pretty much right up to the release date. And I think I mentioned way back that we're looking at other ways to make it available as well.
This is very much still up-in-the-air, but *if* we are able to sell black dragons individually, it will probably be a few months after the original release. If you want to *guarantee* you'll be able to get one, preordering is your best bet.
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I expect that we'll be able to guarantee that case preorderers will also be able to acquire the dragon pretty much right up to the release date. And I think I mentioned way back that we're looking at other ways to make it available as well.
Paizo will have to not only enough cases to cover their preorders, but enough to fill out demand for singles as well. Each of the cases that goes into single sales will come with a dragon, so if you pre-order a case later than the cutoff date they will likely still have more dragons in stock that they can send with the case. This allows them to extend the cutoff for their preorders beyond that of their preorder cutoff date.
At least that is my guess.
This is true... and there will also be case buyers who don't purchase the corresponding black dragons. However, we'll also be using those "excess" minis to continue offering the case incentive to new Pathfinder Battles subscribers beyond the October 1 cutoff, so there's no guarantee they'll ever be offered individually.
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Is the sidecart a preorder?In that case I'm glad I pre-ordered 2 weeks ago :PI've added the following paragraph to the product description:
Note: Customers who preorder a Heroes & Monsters case before October 1 will have the opportunity to purchase the mighty Black Dragon, a special promotional miniature that towers over other figures in the set and sits on a 3-inch base. This offer will be limited to one Black Dragon per case purchased. (We'll contact purchasers by email regarding that offer as soon as details are finalized.)
Yes, putting things in your sidecart counts as a preorder, because you're actually placing an order; the sidecart is really kind of a shipping option. (Note that that's different from the "save for later" pre-checkout option, which does not create an actual order.)
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Paizo, any word on international distribution of those? Shipment costs for anything bigger than books is a major killer for me.
Try putting a case in your cart and going through checkout until you see how much shipping is. Though a case is fairly large, it's also not terribly heavy, and given that the price tag triggers the "First Ten Shipping" promotion, it may not cost all that much to ship internationally.
However, to answer your question, WizKids does sell to international distributors, and we're working with them to offer this line to any of our distributors they currently don't sell to. In short, if your retailer currently carries either WizKids or Paizo products, they should be able to procure this line from their distributor(s).
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Free shipping only to the US. I wonder how and for how much they'd ship overseas.That would be MiniatureMarket.com selling the case for $200 +free shipping and the case w/dragon for $215 +free shipping.Well I did it. I broke down and preorder a case.
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I'm not particularly comfortable discussing another online store's prices here ...
... having said that. I did a calculation with the 15% discount, the MM price is $18 cheaper and that is with the dragon. Now Paizo pays the first $10 of the shipping. So that reduces the discount $8 + cost of the dragon. So I guess you'd have to ask yourself if you think their shipping would be more than $8+cost of the dragon over paizo's shipping cost. As I said earlier, this ultimately is a win-win in any case since Paizo will get the royalties from purchases from other sites, though I would imagine they'd prefer to get direct profits.
I'd just like to note that the Pathfinder Battles subscription (which we'll be announcing as soon as we get the code in place) will include additional benefits, so you might want to hold off on going elsewhere until you've heard that offer.
If I were to call customer service, could I pre-order something and arrange to be charged immediately? Call me crazy, but I pay pretty close attention to my finances, and a future charge at unspecified time just makes me nervous. With my luck, I'll have my car break down that week...
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If I were to call customer service, could I pre-order something and arrange to be charged immediately? Call me crazy, but I pay pretty close attention to my finances, and a future charge at unspecified time just makes me nervous. With my luck, I'll have my car break down that week...
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I'm looking at the gift certificates for this very reason. Going to start getting $25 to $30 every week for myself so it's just at Pazio already. Don't have to worry if it's gonna hit between paychecks.
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I'd just like to note that the Pathfinder Battles subscription (which we'll be announcing as soon as we get the code in place) will include additional benefits, so you might want to hold off on going elsewhere until you've heard that offer.Free shipping only to the US. I wonder how and for how much they'd ship overseas.That would be MiniatureMarket.com selling the case for $200 +free shipping and the case w/dragon for $215 +free shipping.Well I did it. I broke down and preorder a case.
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I'm not particularly comfortable discussing another online store's prices here ...
... having said that. I did a calculation with the 15% discount, the MM price is $18 cheaper and that is with the dragon. Now Paizo pays the first $10 of the shipping. So that reduces the discount $8 + cost of the dragon. So I guess you'd have to ask yourself if you think their shipping would be more than $8+cost of the dragon over paizo's shipping cost. As I said earlier, this ultimately is a win-win in any case since Paizo will get the royalties from purchases from other sites, though I would imagine they'd prefer to get direct profits.
the subscription sounds interesting, but what if you want multiple cases?
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I would guess that Paizo probably makes out better by people purchasing directly from them. On the other hand, in the long term, the more retailers (whether online or not), that are motivated to stock the miniatures, the more health the line will be I would imagine.
What pres man said.
As with all of our lines, we do make more from a sale when you buy from us, but we do need the support of retailers for the line to succeed... so, as always, buy from wherever it makes the most sense for you personally.
(One thing that's less obvious—even though we buy cases at the same price as WizKids' other customers, because WizKids doesn't pay us royalties on the units we buy from them, WizKids therefore makes slightly more on sales through paizo.com then they do through other outlets.)
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It might be that there are fixed sets of 2 small minis that will always be encountered in a pair, or they're mixed wildly.
My understanding is that that is the intent—that is, Goblin #1 will almost always be packed with Goblin #2—but human error at the packing plant could sometimes cause that not to be the case.
I'd just like to note that the Pathfinder Battles subscription (which we'll be announcing as soon as we get the code in place) will include additional benefits, so you might want to hold off on going elsewhere until you've heard that offer.
Oh, ok, so you (Paizo) has actually worked out and confirming a subscription plan for the miniatures, that's great to hear. Last time I heard was 'we're working on it'.
Looking forward to seeing what the Pathfinder Battles subscription plan will offer.
Thanks Vic.
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I'm looking at the gift certificates for this very reason. Going to start getting $25 to $30 every week for myself so it's just at Pazio already. Don't have to worry if it's gonna hit between paychecks.If I were to call customer service, could I pre-order something and arrange to be charged immediately? Call me crazy, but I pay pretty close attention to my finances, and a future charge at unspecified time just makes me nervous. With my luck, I'll have my car break down that week...
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Yep—that's the best way to achieve that.
Yep—that's the best way to achieve that.
I was afraid that would be the answer for any number of reasons, but thanks.
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I would guess that Paizo probably makes out better by people purchasing directly from them. On the other hand, in the long term, the more retailers (whether online or not), that are motivated to stock the miniatures, the more health the line will be I would imagine.What pres man said.
As with all of our lines, we do make more from a sale when you buy from us, but we do need the support of retailers for the line to succeed... so, as always, buy from wherever it makes the most sense for you personally.
(One thing that's less obvious—even though we buy cases at the same price as WizKids' other customers, because WizKids doesn't pay us royalties on the units we buy from them, WizKids therefore makes slightly more on sales through paizo.com then they do through other outlets.)
I have usually been buying most of my Pathfinder stuff from my FLGS. I like to support them. But for the miniatures, it is definitely through Paizo directly. It is good to hear that by doing this, both Paizo and Wizkids receives benefits. You both deserve it. With any great risk there should be reward. Thanks for taking the risk. And thanks for the additional updates.
Later,
Mazra
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If I were to call customer service, could I pre-order something and arrange to be charged immediately? Call me crazy, but I pay pretty close attention to my finances, and a future charge at unspecified time just makes me nervous. With my luck, I'll have my car break down that week...
:)
You can purchase a gift certificate in any amount. We charge immediately for the gift certificate because the store credit is available right away for you to use or give to someone else. You can, as was suggested up thread, purchase them in small amounts to build up enough store credit for the preorder or purchase one for the whole amount.
If you preorder the case now, and want to build up store credit over the next few months you'll need to let us know when you want to apply the store credit to the order because currently we don't have a way to apply store credit to an existing order.*
*If you have a subscription, and are saving up store credit, make sure to go to your My Subscriptions page and ensure the box for "Use any available store credit for my subscription orders" is not selected.**
**If you have the preorder in your sidecart and are saving up store credit to use on it, here is where things get really tricky ;) You will need to make sure the checkbox for "Use any available store credit for my subscription orders" is not selected, right up until just before the shipment that the preorder will ship in (if you have gotten the "in the next week or so.." email you'll have to reply to it right away and let us know to add the store credit.
Illl admit I am on the slow side but I keep hearing subscription mentioned for the new line and it's grabbed my attention. Is this just something that hasn't been announced yet firmly?Gary has to write some new code before we can release the details and start letting people subscribe.
So...tomorrow then?
:D
Is it just me, or does the vampire mini look a LOT like Luvick Siervage(sp?) (going from memory here) y'know the master vampire from the cover of Carrion Crown part 5 (aka Pathfinder Adventure Path #47).
If so... AWESOME!
If not... great coincidence. :)
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Is it just me, or does the vampire mini look a LOT like Luvick Siervage(sp?) (going from memory here) y'know the master vampire from the cover of Carrion Crown part 5 (aka Pathfinder Adventure Path #47).
If so... AWESOME!
If not... great coincidence. :)
I don't remember exactly where the vampire image came from, however, almost all of the minis WizKids will be making will be taken from Paizo artwork, so you may find a "generic" miniature that you will recognize as coming from a particular AP or module.
-Lisa
Have I said "thank you" recently for you guys making this happen?
Well, thank you.