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Pathfinder RPG combat comes to life on your tabletop with Heroes & Monsters, the debut release in the new Pathfinder Battles prepainted miniatures line! Produced in cooperation with Paizo Publishing, Heroes & Monsters presents a fascinating array of 40 beautifully painted miniatures perfect for use with the Pathfinder RPG or any fantasy miniatures game! From the brave Gnome Fighter to the mighty evil lich, Heroes & Monsters offers a wide range of player characters and dungeon denizens that make a perfect start to your Pathfinder Battles collection!

  • Heroes & Monsters Standard Boosters contain 1 Medium or 2 Small miniatures.
  • Heroes & Monsters Large Boosters contain 1 Large miniature.
  • Heroes & Monsters Bricks contain 16 Standard Boosters and 3 Large Boosters.
  • Heroes & Monsters Cases contain 4 Bricks (64 Standard Boosters and 12 Large Boosters).

Purchasers should get no to very few duplicate figures in a brick. Buyers who purchase factory-sealed cases should get a nearly complete set of figures. (As with any randomized product, collation is not guaranteed.)

Begin your Pathfinder Battles collection today! The Heroes & Monsters of the Pathfinder world await!

See the press release for questions and answers about this exciting new product line.


Heroes & Monsters Set List

CommonUncommon
1  Goblin Warrior (Red)
2  Goblin Hero (Red)
3  Goblin Warrior (Blue)
4  Goblin Hero (Blue)
5  Orc Brute
6  Orc Warrior
7  Skeleton
8  Watch Guard
9  Watch Officer
10  Lizardfolk Champion
11  Zombie
12  Giant Spider
13  Wolf
14  Venomous Snake
15  Mummy
16  Human Rogue
17  Human Ranger
18  Elf Wizard
19  Half-Elf Cleric
20  Dwarf Fighter
21  Human Druid
22  Gnome Fighter
23  Dire Rat
Rare
24  Gargoyle
25  Half-Orc Barbarian
26  Spectre
27  Seelah, Human Paladin
28  Werewolf
29  Medusa
30  Minotaur
31  Ogre
32  Troll
33  Ettin
34  Chimera
35  Manticore
36  Giant Caveweaver Spider
37  Frost Giant
38  Succubus
39  Lich
40  Vampire

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Too Much $$$

2/5

I hate to be a bad mouth, and I am honestly not motivated here by vehemence. This figs just cost way too much for what you get ESPECIALLY because they are random and plastic.

I am not saying there is anything better out there - as far as I can tell there isn't. My local store is 1 of 2 significant stores, in a metro area of around half a million folks. The store I frequent has yet to sell out of the ORIGINAL , the 2nd line has barely sold at all, and he has refused to order anything else. It just doesn't sell. And its not placement - they are quite actually the first and last thing you see when you enter his store.

When I bought DND mini's the price for randoms eventually became to high for me and I was able to still get the minis I wanted by buying singles. So far, everything I have seen indicates the singles market is incredibly over-inflated.

So, quality wise they are top notch. The paint jobs and sculpts are in every way superior to what I have seen anywhere else here in America. There are foreign companies doing comparable work in similar markets, but that is irrelevant to this review.

For me though, the final thing comes down to money. They are too expensive.


Individual figures

2/5

I would be more willing to buy these if one could select individual figures desiered rather than getting a "Grab Bag (box)" of unknowns.


Vibrant, but Overpriced

2/5

I didn't even want to buy any originally because of the price, but I decided to grab 3 small (1 medium or 2 small figures each) and 1 large (1 large figure) boxes. This cost me $19 before taxes and I ended up with 1 large and 3 medium figures. When D&D Miniatures was producing boosters I would pay $15 or $16 before taxes to get 8 figures and I'm pretty sure there was 1 large per booster.

I then placed them side by side with the D&D Miniatures I have and I would say the quality is about the same, but the Pathfinder minis are more vibrant. The D&D minis though each came with a stat card and could be used to play a separate minis tactical game.

Even if I were to get 2 small figures in each of the small boxes of Pathfinder minis I purchased I'd have 7 figures. For $3 or $4 less I would have 1-4 more figures and I never remember seeing a full booster of D&D minis as small figures, maybe half at most.

I really like the Pathfinder RPG books, but I'm sorry, I won't be buying any more minis because I think they're overpriced. Maybe I'm just behind times though because I know the D&D minis are not being produced any more, but I can still buy singles for $1 each for commons and uncommons.


1-2 random for HOW MUCH!

1/5

For random minis, the pricing is obscene. Tack on a buck and let me know what I am Getting. The local store has yet to sell out of the Original Brick. And from what I have seen, the sculpts and painting is so sub-par.
As much as I hate the Paper Minis, I will take those over these in a heartbeat.


Excellent Beginning Run.

5/5

I have just gotten into my box set that I recieved (in no specific order). Individual Review will be added later.

Box 1:

Frost Giant
Ogre
Troll
Skeleton
Venomous Snake
Spectre
Red Goblin Hero
Red Goblin Warrior
Giant Spider
Zombie
Watch Officer
Watch Guard
Dire Rat
Medusa
Half-Elf Cleric
Vampire
Human Rogue
Wolf
Gnome Fighter
Human Ranger
Seelah, Human Paladin

Box 2:

Manticore
Ogre
Troll
Succubus
Human Rogue
Blue Goblin Warrior
Blue Goblin Warrior
Blue Goblin Hero
Blue Goblin Hero
Red Goblin Warrior
Red Goblin Hero
Gnome Fighter
Dire Rat
Skeleton
Human Ranger
Spectre
Seelah, Human Paladin
Lizardfolk Champion
Watch Guard
Medusa
Venomous Snake
Giant Spider
Orc Warrior

Box 3:

Ettin
Minotaur
Chimera
Orc Warrior
Zombie
Giant Spider
Watch Officer
Werewolf
Lizardfolk Champion
Wolf
Mummy
Elf Wizard
Half-Elf Cleric
Blue Goblin Hero
Blue Goblin Warrior
Half-Orc Barbarian
Dwarf Fighter
Lich
Human Druid
Gargoyle

Box 4:

Ettin
Giant Caveweaver Spider
Troll
Spectre
Zombie
Mummy
Elf Wizard
Human Druid
Wolf
Watch Officer
Giant Spider
Medusa
Blue Goblin Warrior
Blue Goblin Hero
Half-Elf Cleric
Skeleton
Werewolf
Venomous Snake
Succubus
Orc Brute

Final Count:

Red Goblin Warrior x2
Red Goblin Hero x2
Blue Goblin Warrior x4
Blue Goblin Hero x4
Orc Brute
Orc Warrior x2
Skeleton x3
Watch Guard x2
Watch Officer x3
Lizardfolk Champion x2
Zombie x3
Giant Spider x4
Wolf x3
Venomous Snake x3
Mummy x2
Human Rogue x2
Human Ranger x2
Elf Wizard x2
Half-Elf Cleric x3
Dwarf Fighter
Human Druid x2
Gnome Fighter x2
Dire Rat x2
Gargoyle
Half-Orc Barbarian
Spectre x3
Seelah, Human Paladin x2
Werewolf x2
Medusa x3
Minotaur
Ogre x2
Troll x3
Ettin x2
Chimera
Manticore
Giant Caveweaver Spider
Frost Giant
Succubus x2
Lich
Vampire

84 Minis, out a minimum 76, and was able to get the full collection. I can safely say that I am over all pleased, though I was hoping for more humanoid opponents, but can't be to grumpy since I did get a full collection, with a few doubles of key members. Add to this the ones Irecieved from random Store Boughts as well as a minion order from this site and the six-man Evil Booster and you have a good assortment of minis to choose from.


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James Jacobs wrote:

Word.

The minis look INCREDIBLE. I might have to sneak into Erik's office to steal Merisiel. I probably shouldn't have said that in public on these boards. Now he'll have his pugwampi guards on full alert.

*scribbles a note to stop by Erik's office on the way home tonight*

Grand Lodge

Vic, Erik, everybody at Paizo, this is just awesome stuff. Thanks for sharing some of the process, and more importantly the Paizo's staff reaction to actual miniatures. This will do in place of a good spoiler for now. :-)

Later,

Mazra

Grand Lodge

Sigh. Is it October yet?

Or, better...is it December yet?

(the waiting...oy...the waiting)


I want to give my vote of assurance on the quality of the paint masters.

Like everyone here, I saw the digital pictures of the Beginner Box minis on the website. They looked good at the time and I was pretty impressed.

But when I was at Gen Con, and saw the paint masters displayed, I was stunned, literally. The colors were sharp and I didn't see any of the 'splotches' that was evident on many of the DDM minis. The detail on the paint masters is insane.

And if future minis look even better than the ones I saw on display at GenCon, it's going to make a LOT of people happy and I feel this mini line is going to last a long time.


Any way we could get a checklist for the upcoming Pathfinder Battles December release miniatures?

Paizo Employee Chief Creative Officer, Publisher

I'm currently chatting with WizKids about how we want to handle the release of this type of information. I am in a sharing mood, especially insofar as images are concerned.,,


Erik Mona wrote:

I'm currently chatting with WizKids about how we want to handle the release of ithis type of information. I am in a sharing mood, especially insofar as images are concerned.,,

Then by all means, please share away!


Erik Mona wrote:

I'm currently chatting with WizKids about how we want to handle the release of ithis type of information. I am in a sharing mood, especially insofar as images are concerned.,,

oooh, yes please


So the paint masters are better than the digitals, and the final product will be better than (or at least as good as) the masters?

Nice.

I'm used to the opposite. DDM (especially after Underdark) used to have decent-looking masters (which were advertised), and then the final figures looked worse. In some cases several orders of magnitude worse. Like only half the colours the masters had.

This is a welcome change.

Grand Lodge

I don't wish to cast dispersions, and I'm sure the final product will look great...BUT...I.ve never seen a situation where the mass produced final product is actually better than the paint master. Production pieces generally show some form of degradation from the prototype.

I'm a long-time fan and customer of Wizkids, but I've never encountered a production piece that looked better than the promotional images.

The only reason I even mention this is to, perhaps, manage expectations. Will the final product be good? I'm sure it will, and I'm super excited for the Pathfinder Battles line. It's actually a pretty big factor in my decision to get into Pathfinder. But unless Wizkids has come up with a new process for these minis than that which they use on their other lines, I expect some paint slop, or mis-aligned paint masks or any other the myriad of mishaps that can occur in production..

That being said, the minis in their recent Star Trek Expeditions board game are some of the best I've seen from Wizkids. Really tight.

Bottom line, I can't wait for these minis...just don't be surprised if they're not markedly better than the paint masters.


Jeff Cope wrote:

I don't wish to cast dispersions, and I'm sure the final product will look great...BUT...I.ve never seen a situation where the mass produced final product is actually better than the paint master. Production pieces generally show some form of degradation from the prototype.

I'm a long-time fan and customer of Wizkids, but I've never encountered a production piece that looked better than the promotional images.

The only reason I even mention this is to, perhaps, manage expectations. Will the final product be good? I'm sure it will, and I'm super excited for the Pathfinder Battles line. It's actually a pretty big factor in my decision to get into Pathfinder. But unless Wizkids has come up with a new process for these minis than that which they use on their other lines, I expect some paint slop, or mis-aligned paint masks or any other the myriad of mishaps that can occur in production..

That being said, the minis in their recent Star Trek Expeditions board game are some of the best I've seen from Wizkids. Really tight.

Bottom line, I can't wait for these minis...just don't be surprised if they're not markedly better than the paint masters.

Actually Vic from the previous page had already indicated WizKids have made some improvements in their painting procedure:

Vic Wertz wrote:
I'd mentioned before in this thread that WizKids had told us that the production minis had the potential to be even better than the paint masters. The reason for that is that the paint masters have three types of paint applications: masks, tampos, and freehand details. The process of masking (which account for most of the paint on each figure) doesn't vary significantly between paint masters and production, so the masked bits should be essentially the exact same quality. The same is true of the tampos (which are essentially printed-on details, like the fine gold designs on Kyra's cloak). But WizKids actually made improvements to the masks and tampos after seeing the paint masters, and that's one reason that the production minis can present an improvement over the masters. Also, the few freehand details on the paint masters (like the eyes and eyebrows) won't be freehanded on the production figures, so those details should be more precise and regular on production minis than they are on the paint masters.

But if the final quality ends up being ‘only’ the same as the paint master or even slightly less, as you said, it will still look very good.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Jeff Cope wrote:

But unless Wizkids has come up with a new process for these minis than that which they use on their other lines, I expect some paint slop, or mis-aligned paint masks or any other the myriad of mishaps that can occur in production..

That being said, the minis in their recent Star Trek Expeditions board game are some of the best I've seen from Wizkids. Really tight.

I don't know which of their other lines they do this for (if any), but for Pathfinder Battles, after the masks and tampos are done, they're sending each individual mini through an additional hand-inspection and touch-up stage. I'm sure they won't all be perfection, but right now, I'm pretty convinced that when it comes to preprinted plastic fantasy minis, the Pathfinder Battles line will see some of the best paint applications ever.

Liberty's Edge

Hearing mention of the RotRL pack of minis for the re-release of the RotRL AP in hard back form and a sequel to call The Shattered Star makes me ask the question, is this "TRULY" a sequel (higher level adventures) or just an AP "spin-off" of RotRL like The Jade Regent AP?

Paizo Employee Creative Director

Kevida wrote:
Hearing mention of the RotRL pack of minis for the re-release of the RotRL AP in hard back form and a sequel to call The Shattered Star makes me ask the question, is this "TRULY" a sequel (higher level adventures) or just an AP "spin-off" of RotRL like The Jade Regent AP?

We haven't actually started even outlining "The Shattered Star," but yes, it's fully intended to be a sequel to "Rise of the Runelords."

Jade Regent's "sequel status" is a lot less writ in stone—you can actually play Jade Regent before Runelords without causing much disruption to Runelords at all, in fact. That won't be the case with "The Shattered Star," although we'll probably include some short bits of advice on what to do if you DO want to run Runelords as a sequel to Shattered Star.


Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber
James Jacobs wrote:
Kevida wrote:
Hearing mention of the RotRL pack of minis for the re-release of the RotRL AP in hard back form and a sequel to call The Shattered Star makes me ask the question, is this "TRULY" a sequel (higher level adventures) or just an AP "spin-off" of RotRL like The Jade Regent AP?

We haven't actually started even outlining "The Shattered Star," but yes, it's fully intended to be a sequel to "Rise of the Runelords."

Jade Regent's "sequel status" is a lot less writ in stone—you can actually play Jade Regent before Runelords without causing much disruption to Runelords at all, in fact. That won't be the case with "The Shattered Star," although we'll probably include some short bits of advice on what to do if you DO want to run Runelords as a sequel to Shattered Star.

But not with the same characters, because it is an AP and will start at level 1.

Liberty's Edge

Justin Franklin wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Kevida wrote:
Hearing mention of the RotRL pack of minis for the re-release of the RotRL AP in hard back form and a sequel to call The Shattered Star makes me ask the question, is this "TRULY" a sequel (higher level adventures) or just an AP "spin-off" of RotRL like The Jade Regent AP?

We haven't actually started even outlining "The Shattered Star," but yes, it's fully intended to be a sequel to "Rise of the Runelords."

Jade Regent's "sequel status" is a lot less writ in stone—you can actually play Jade Regent before Runelords without causing much disruption to Runelords at all, in fact. That won't be the case with "The Shattered Star," although we'll probably include some short bits of advice on what to do if you DO want to run Runelords as a sequel to Shattered Star.

But not with the same characters, because it is an AP and will start at level 1.

Thanks for the clarification both of you. Sorry for the thread jack!

RPG Superstar 2010 Top 4

Pathfinder miniatures. Very cool! I wish you luck.

I love the idea of syncing minis releases with Adventure Paths. The prices are expensive but not unreasonable for well-painted figures.

Whoever suggested a Froghemoth is right on the money. I'd also love to see an Eye of the Deep, given that it's in the Tome of Horrors as open game content. Feel free to make an Ossuary Golem, too! ;)


Matthew McGee wrote:

Pathfinder miniatures. Very cool! I wish you luck.

I love the idea of syncing minis releases with Adventure Paths. The prices are expensive but not unreasonable for well-painted figures.

Whoever suggested a Froghemoth is right on the money. I'd also love to see an Eye of the Deep, given that it's in the Tome of Horrors as open game content. Feel free to make an Ossuary Golem, too! ;)

There are tons of fun monsters in the Tome of Horrors. Flumph! Flumph! Flumph!


Erik Mona wrote:

I'm currently chatting with WizKids about how we want to handle the release of this type of information. I am in a sharing mood, especially insofar as images are concerned.,,

Please start giving out more previews/pictures and or a list of the 40 miniatures in the set. I am interested in buying a case (or more) however I want an Idea of what I am purchasing.

I want the breakdown of the Commons, Uncommon, and Rares as well as the make up of monsters to "Heros" and if there are any miniatures I am very interesed in getting, or ones I have no intrest ing getting. If I don't want half of the set I want to know that Before I pre-order a case, so as to make an informed purchase, currently I can not make an informed choice and have not pre-ordered.

With a cut off date of October 1st to get in on the pre-order Dragon, with no information as to what is in the set, it seems very shaddy to make someone put up $275 not knowing, What they are getting, other than the chance to buy a dragon, at a price point we don't even know yet either.
Please make the set information avialiable to people, BEFORE the October first deadline so we can know what we are ordering, or change the deadline so that we can make informed choices once that information is out.

Sczarni

Ghengis Ska wrote:


With a cut off date of October 1st to get in on the pre-order Dragon, with no information as to what is in the set, it seems very shaddy to make someone put up $275 not knowing, What they are getting, other than the chance to buy a dragon, at a price point we don't even know yet either.
Please make the set information avialiable to people, BEFORE the October first deadline so we can know what we are ordering, or change the deadline so that we can make informed choices once that information is out.

I doubt you're going to get this. The reason for the Black dragon promotion in the first place is to make people preorder cases early, before the sculpts are fully completed or paint masters completed. This allows Wizkids to know the size of the print run they need, and work on fulfilling it. You MIGHT see a list of the minis in the set prior to 10/1. But I wouldn't hold my breath (We already know over 1/4 of them - which is more than most wizkids releases before access to the promo is finished).

Grand Lodge

GS does make many good points. Paizo could get more pre-sales if a larger portion of the set contents were revealed. I too have been waiting for more reveals and the Black Dragon pricing before ordering a case. Paizo doesn't have to show us paint masters yet, but knowing more of what to be expected would be nice.

Let's see:

Huge Black Dragon
Troll
Succubus
Frost Giant
Vampire
Dire Rat
Male Gnome Fighter

Also hints,

Two Goblins
Skeleton
Ogre
Orc

That is 12 of 41, with less than a month before decision time.

Later,

Mazra


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Abraham spalding wrote:
4~6 dollars on a single plastic mini? Pass.

When I first read this I thought maybe it was a bit harsh. Then I learned about the random thing, and now I actually agree.

$1 isn't too much to use while gambling. $4 is too much.

Think about it this way, I might blow my Jimmy Johns budget on mini's instead. I could buy three boxes, open them, and get three of the same 'mining dwarf' or some such. Now in a collectible game, this might make sense. Maybe I'm stacking an army or something. In an RPG, however, this is awkward. Am I planning adventures involving three of the same dwarf? Probably not...

Maybe for $1, but not for $4.

Or to take one more crack at it, I look to my son's Pokemon cards. Those boosters are also $4. But they have more than just one card in them. Sometimes they're all junk, but there's a lot of variety in there, too.


I goofed before when I tried to "reply". So I'll just add my comment here. I agree that the price of the minis is too high - it's more than we paid (per figure) for D&D minis. And as appearances go, I cerftainly don't want a gnome fighter who looks more like a leprachaun or some other Irish fey creature.

Silver Crusade

I'd love to preorder a brick but import tax is a killer...


Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber
Mazra wrote:

GS does make many good points. Paizo could get more pre-sales if a larger portion of the set contents were revealed. I too have been waiting for more reveals and the Black Dragon pricing before ordering a case. Paizo doesn't have to show us paint masters yet, but knowing more of what to be expected would be nice.

Let's see:

Huge Black Dragon
Troll
Succubus
Frost Giant
Vampire
Dire Rat
Male Gnome Fighter

Also hints,

Two Goblins
Skeleton
Ogre
Orc

That is 12 of 41, with less than a month before decision time.

Later,

Mazra

The chimera as well so that is 13 of them.


Justin Franklin wrote:
Mazra wrote:

GS does make many good points. Paizo could get more pre-sales if a larger portion of the set contents were revealed. I too have been waiting for more reveals and the Black Dragon pricing before ordering a case. Paizo doesn't have to show us paint masters yet, but knowing more of what to be expected would be nice.

Let's see:

Huge Black Dragon
Troll
Succubus
Frost Giant
Vampire
Dire Rat
Male Gnome Fighter

Also hints,

Two Goblins
Skeleton
Ogre
Orc

That is 12 of 41, with less than a month before decision time.

Later,

Mazra

The chimera as well so that is 13 of them.

I heard rummor of 4 goblins upthread, but have nothing to back that up.

Sczarni

Caineach wrote:
I heard rummor of 4 goblins upthread, but have nothing to back that up.

I'm pretty sure Erik said it in another thread, I can't find that post now though


Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber
Cpt_kirstov wrote:
Caineach wrote:
I heard rummor of 4 goblins upthread, but have nothing to back that up.
I'm pretty sure Erik said it in another thread, I can't find that post now though

I thought it was in one of the GenCon podcasts.

Sczarni RPG Superstar 2014 Top 16

Cpt_kirstov wrote:
I'm pretty sure Erik said it in another thread, I can't find that post now though

I believe he mentioned in an interview on the Chronicles Pathfinder Podcast that there would be 4 different goblins. And don't forget, we also know that there will be a mini for the Iconic Paladin. So that gives us:

Small:
Goblin x4
Male Gnome fighter
Dire Rat

Medium:
Paladin
Succubus
Vampire
Skeleton?
Orc?

Large:
Ogre?
Troll
Frost Giant
Chimera

Plus the Huge Black Dragon

They've also used a Lich as an example of a Rare figure on several occasions, so I think that is likely as well.

Assuming we're right on all the guesses, that's 17 of 41 minis, or 41% of the list. Not bad considering there has been no official set list yet :-)


Huge Black Dragon, Troll, Succubus, Frost Giant, Vampire, Dire Rat, Male Gnome Fighter, Chimera

Are the only ones I count as known, untill you show me a source vague hints are not a source.
There are "hints" of 2-4 goblins which is a pretty big deal that is either from 5 to 10% of the set in Goblins. That is information i want to Actually KNOW how much of the set is goblins as I may or may not be wasting my $ on them, if they are spread over the three levels (C/U/R) or are all C makes a big difference if i shell out $275.


Tamago wrote:
Cpt_kirstov wrote:
I'm pretty sure Erik said it in another thread, I can't find that post now though

I believe he mentioned in an interview on the Chronicles Pathfinder Podcast that there would be 4 different goblins. And don't forget, we also know that there will be a mini for the Iconic Paladin. So that gives us:

Small:
Goblin x4
Male Gnome fighter
Dire Rat

You're assuming the goblins are all small. If it was one on a goblin dog, it could be a medium.


Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber
Kin Korn Karn wrote:
Tamago wrote:
Cpt_kirstov wrote:
I'm pretty sure Erik said it in another thread, I can't find that post now though

I believe he mentioned in an interview on the Chronicles Pathfinder Podcast that there would be 4 different goblins. And don't forget, we also know that there will be a mini for the Iconic Paladin. So that gives us:

Small:
Goblin x4
Male Gnome fighter
Dire Rat

You're assuming the goblins are all small. If it was one on a goblin dog, it could be a medium.

Actually in that interview, Erik said there were 6 small minis in the set 4 goblins, the Gnome Fighter and the Dire Rat.

Sczarni

Kin Korn Karn wrote:
Tamago wrote:
Cpt_kirstov wrote:
I'm pretty sure Erik said it in another thread, I can't find that post now though

I believe he mentioned in an interview on the Chronicles Pathfinder Podcast that there would be 4 different goblins. And don't forget, we also know that there will be a mini for the Iconic Paladin. So that gives us:

Small:
Goblin x4
Male Gnome fighter
Dire Rat

You're assuming the goblins are all small. If it was one on a goblin dog, it could be a medium.

They are - Erik says in the same interveiw that he thinks you'll get 1 set of goblins, the other set of goblins, or the gnome/rat as your two smalls (IE when you get a regular pack which contains two smalls it will always be one of those 3 combination).


Kin Korn Karn wrote:
Matthew McGee wrote:

Pathfinder miniatures. Very cool! I wish you luck.

I love the idea of syncing minis releases with Adventure Paths. The prices are expensive but not unreasonable for well-painted figures.

Whoever suggested a Froghemoth is right on the money. I'd also love to see an Eye of the Deep, given that it's in the Tome of Horrors as open game content. Feel free to make an Ossuary Golem, too! ;)

There are tons of fun monsters in the Tome of Horrors. Flumph! Flumph! Flumph!

"Tons" - That doesn't really work. A single monster can be tons of monster. :P


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Ghengis Ska wrote:


Please start giving out more previews/pictures and or a list of the 40 miniatures in the set. I am interested in buying a case (or more) however I want an Idea of what I am purchasing.
I want the breakdown of the Commons, Uncommon, and Rares as well as the make up of monsters to "Heros" and if there are any miniatures I am very interesed in getting, or ones I have no intrest ing getting. If I don't want half of the set I want to know that Before I pre-order a case, so as to make an informed purchase, currently I can not make an informed choice and have not pre-ordered.

It seems that this is not quite how WizKids operates. They don't reveal all the information this quickly.

Actually, neither did wizards with DDM, at least not at the time I was buying them. There are previews, but complete listings come very late.

Ghengis Ska wrote:


With a cut off date of October 1st to get in on the pre-order Dragon, with no information as to what is in the set, it seems very shaddy to make someone put up $275 not knowing, What they are getting, other than the chance to buy a dragon, at a price point we don't even know yet either.

It's not shady, it's just how it is. I don't think the cut-off date is a fixed, arbitrary limit. It's more that these incentive dragons are somewhat limited, and they can't guarantee you that you'll get one if you wait with your pre-order until late November or something like that. If you pre-order before October, they think they can guarantee that you get one, but after that, they can't promise anything. But they're not saying "Effective 2011/10/01 00:00:01, nobody gets to have a dragon."

You can always wait and test your luck about the dragon.

The purpose of an incentive is to incite you to do something. In this case, pre-order early.


Pegicorn wrote:
I goofed before when I tried to "reply". So I'll just add my comment here. I agree that the price of the minis is too high - it's more than we paid (per figure) for D&D minis.

And DDM went belly up. After repeatedly increasing prices. And decreasing quality.

If the pictures we've seen so far and statements we got from Paizo are any indication, the quality difference between DDM and these minis is going to be about the same as the difference between Betamax and Blu-ray.

Pegicorn wrote:
And as appearances go, I cerftainly don't want a gnome fighter who looks more like a leprachaun or some other Irish fey creature.

You mean the loud colours? Well, you're out of luck. These are Pathfinder gnomes. They'll all have weird colours.


KaeYoss wrote:
Pegicorn wrote:
I goofed before when I tried to "reply". So I'll just add my comment here. I agree that the price of the minis is too high - it's more than we paid (per figure) for D&D minis.

And DDM went belly up. After repeatedly increasing prices. And decreasing quality.

If the pictures we've seen so far and statements we got from Paizo are any indication, the quality difference between DDM and these minis is going to be about the same as the difference between Betamax and Blu-ray.

If the masters they had a Gencon are any indication, this is an apt comparison.

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Tamago wrote:

They've also used a Lich as an example of a Rare figure on several occasions, so I think that is likely as well.

Assuming we're right on all the guesses, that's 17 of 41 minis, or 41% of the list. Not bad considering there has been no official set list yet :-)

Good list! And you are right. 17 of 41 is a good ratio. I still would like to know the pricing for the Huge Black before placing my order.

Thanks Tamago!

Mazra


Mazra wrote:
Tamago wrote:

They've also used a Lich as an example of a Rare figure on several occasions, so I think that is likely as well.

Assuming we're right on all the guesses, that's 17 of 41 minis, or 41% of the list. Not bad considering there has been no official set list yet :-)

Good list! And you are right. 17 of 41 is a good ratio. I still would like to know the pricing for the Huge Black before placing my order.

Thanks Tamago!

Mazra

That is what I am waiting for as well. The rest of the list I trust to be good enough. I want to know the details of the dragon.


Caineach wrote:
KaeYoss wrote:
Pegicorn wrote:
I goofed before when I tried to "reply". So I'll just add my comment here. I agree that the price of the minis is too high - it's more than we paid (per figure) for D&D minis.

And DDM went belly up. After repeatedly increasing prices. And decreasing quality.

If the pictures we've seen so far and statements we got from Paizo are any indication, the quality difference between DDM and these minis is going to be about the same as the difference between Betamax and Blu-ray.

If the masters they had a Gencon are any indication, this is an apt comparison.

I'm not going to get my hopes up too high until I have the products in my hand. Nobody takes the worst item off the line and uses that as their promo piece. They always show you the best of the best and what you get usually doesn't look nearly as good. Go to a restaurant, look at the pictures of the food and then compare it to what you get. Sometimes you get stuff that looks as good or even better, but that isn't the way to bet.

Sczarni

pres man wrote:
I'm not going to get my hopes up too high until I have the products in my hand. Nobody takes the worst item off the line and uses that as their promo piece. They always show you the best of the best and what you get usually doesn't look nearly as good. Go to a restaurant, look at the pictures of the food and then compare it to what you get. Sometimes you get stuff that looks as good or even better, but that isn't the way to bet.

@ Gencon, there were 2 copies of each... which makes it a little more credible.


Cpt_kirstov wrote:
pres man wrote:
I'm not going to get my hopes up too high until I have the products in my hand. Nobody takes the worst item off the line and uses that as their promo piece. They always show you the best of the best and what you get usually doesn't look nearly as good. Go to a restaurant, look at the pictures of the food and then compare it to what you get. Sometimes you get stuff that looks as good or even better, but that isn't the way to bet.
@ Gencon, there were 2 copies of each... which makes it a little more credible.

They were paint masters. They blew the initial images posted on the website away. Vic said upthread that of the 4 initial production ones they have been sent to paizo, 2 came out better than the paint masters and 2 came out worse. Even if that remains true, I have high expectations on these.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Caineach wrote:
Cpt_kirstov wrote:
pres man wrote:
I'm not going to get my hopes up too high until I have the products in my hand. Nobody takes the worst item off the line and uses that as their promo piece. They always show you the best of the best and what you get usually doesn't look nearly as good. Go to a restaurant, look at the pictures of the food and then compare it to what you get. Sometimes you get stuff that looks as good or even better, but that isn't the way to bet.
@ Gencon, there were 2 copies of each... which makes it a little more credible.
They were paint masters. They blew the initial images posted on the website away. Vic said upthread that of the 4 initial production ones they have been sent to paizo, 2 came out better than the paint masters and 2 came out worse. Even if that remains true, I have high expectations on these.

Close: I said that 2 were better all around, and 2 were better in some places and worse in others... and that I expect those two deficiencies to be sorted by the time we reach full production.

Paizo Employee Chief Creative Officer, Publisher

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I've got a ton of high-res images from WizKids. Now I just need to get the art department to size them and add some logos, and the previews will begin to flow fast and furious. It may take until early next week, but a parade of images is now imminent.

I think I shall begin with one no one has listed yet! :)

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Erik Mona wrote:

I think I shall begin with one no one has listed yet! :)

Yay! Ostog the Unslain!!

;)

Dark Archive

I do apologize if this was mentioned earlier in the thread as it has been difficult catching up on everyone's views and opinions. Amongst all the excitement for this product there is one issue that has bothered me somewhat. I was hoping to be able to see how the Beginner Box Heroes turn out prior to ordering any of the Heroes & Monsters miniatures. With the assurance of the option in attaining a Black Dragon being contingent upon the ordering of a case by the 1st of October, I find it difficult to invest blindly without at least having my own opinion be a factor in the decision process; amongst all of the trusted Paizo staffs views as well.

Paizo's commitment to quality and diligence cannot be questioned, in my assessment, as I am very pleased with where the company has come from and where they seem to be going with the Pathfinder brand. I love it!! My small feeling of disappointment comes from the limited window of opportunity with regards to the Black Dragon promotional miniature.

Now I do recall that Paizo has said that they plan on presenting other opportunities to attain, earn, or gain the Black Dragon, which I am looking forward to very much. I am curious as to the nature of these other prospects and if anyone else feels the same way as I do regarding this matter. Game on friends!!


Erik Mona wrote:

I've got a ton of high-res images from WizKids. Now I just need to get the art department to size them and add some logos, and the previews will begin to flow fast and furious. It may take until early next week, but a parade of images is now imminent.

I think I shall begin with one no one has listed yet! :)

These are highly appreciated news!

Being eager for information about this product but not really wnting to buy it unseen seems to be two common positions among the community - both taken care of with a little info.


KaeYoss wrote:


It seems that this is not quite how WizKids operates. They don't reveal all the information this quickly.

Actually, neither did wizards with DDM, at least not at the time I was buying them. There are previews, but complete listings come very late.

WotC also never was soliciting Preorders from the general public on their own web store for the Minis line, that had one shot promos, I have never liked Wizkids "brick" promos and sad to see Paizo jumping on that band wagon with this license.

Complete listings were generally know a month, in many cases more than a month before the release (yes some were spoilers) but there were multiple sets know about months in advance of release, due to the lead time of production compared to distribution

KaeYoss wrote:

It's not shady, it's just how it is. I don't think the cut-off date is a fixed, arbitrary limit. It's more that these incentive dragons are somewhat limited, and they can't guarantee you that you'll get one if you wait with your pre-order until late November or something like that. If you pre-order before October, they think they can guarantee that you get one, but after that, they can't promise anything. But they're not saying "Effective 2011/10/01 00:00:01, nobody gets to have a dragon."

You can always wait and test your luck about the dragon.

The purpose of an incentive is to incite you to do something. In this case, pre-order early.

Just consider me crazy as I don't like limited edition promo figures, or not being an informed consumer.


Erik Mona wrote:

I've got a ton of high-res images from WizKids. Now I just need to get the art department to size them and add some logos, and the previews will begin to flow fast and furious. It may take until early next week, but a parade of images is now imminent.

I think I shall begin with one no one has listed yet! :)

I eagerly await the previews...


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I'm super excited about getting mine. I love the Pathfinder game, and I haven't been into role-playing since I was young. I appreciate what y'all are doing so much I do all my buying through your web site, in hopes that my dollars go directly to you. If there was a place local to buy I'd probably go that way, but there just isn't. I've found better prices other places, but like I said, I want to support a great company. Thank you Paizo Pathfinder.

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