Caineach |
Cpt_kirstov wrote:I would also preorder quickly if your are doing it through a FLGS. When my boss called Alliance yesterday, they told him that from the last 2 days that they expected to sell out before release day, and need to ration when filling preorders .Well that’s great to hear (on the anticipated sales)!
I should have asked this earlier, but Vic (or anyone from Paizo), you indicated October 12th is the cut-off date for retailers to place their orders from the distributors to get the black dragon. However, what is Paizo’s cut-off date for us to preorder from you and still get the dragon?
And will we know the details of the dragon before the preorder cut-off date?
Cory Stafford 29 |
Coltaine wrote:Hmmm, did you write the whole fane of Tiamat? It just seemed so arbitrary and anti climactic compared to everything else before hand. The Ghostlord is one of my fav encounters of all time.Yup, I did the whole fane of Tiamat all right. Sorry it didn't work out for you.
Yeah, that part TPK'd us. It was a little off putting to be put in a situation where you're pretty much going to die no matter what you do, but over all it was the best adventure that I've ever played through. Anyway, looking forward to getting some of these minis.
Vic Wertz Chief Technical Officer |
Cpt_kirstov wrote:I would also preorder quickly if your are doing it through a FLGS. When my boss called Alliance yesterday, they told him that from the last 2 days that they expected to sell out before release day, and need to ration when filling preorders .Well that’s great to hear (on the anticipated sales)!
I should have asked this earlier, but Vic (or anyone from Paizo), you indicated October 12th is the cut-off date for retailers to place their orders from the distributors to get the black dragon. However, what is Paizo’s cut-off date for us to preorder from you and still get the dragon?
I expect that we'll be able to guarantee that case preorderers will also be able to acquire the dragon pretty much right up to the release date. And I think I mentioned way back that we're looking at other ways to make it available as well.
And will we know the details of the dragon before the preorder cut-off date?
By far. I'm hoping we'll have a bunch of details on all of our options (preorders, subscriptions and such) within the next week and a half.
Caineach |
I expect that we'll be able to guarantee that case preorderers will also be able to acquire the dragon pretty much right up to the release date. And I think I mentioned way back that we're looking at other ways to make it available as well.
Paizo will have to not only enough cases to cover their preorders, but enough to fill out demand for singles as well. Each of the cases that goes into single sales will come with a dragon, so if you pre-order a case later than the cutoff date they will likely still have more dragons in stock that they can send with the case. This allows them to extend the cutoff for their preorders beyond that of their preorder cutoff date.
At least that is my guess.
Vic Wertz Chief Technical Officer |
I expect that we'll be able to guarantee that case preorderers will also be able to acquire the dragon pretty much right up to the release date.
After further discussion, I'm not confident I can guarantee that. I'm updating the product page (which didn't mention the case incentive at all until now) to include a note that case buyers will have to preorder by October 1 to be guaranteed the option to purchase a Black Dragon.
We may be able to offer a slightly longer window to subscribers—stay tuned in the coming weeks for details about that.
Vic Wertz Chief Technical Officer |
Hobbun wrote:Not quite—October 12 is the date by which *retailers* need to place their orders from distributors to get the black dragon. As I said upthread, once retailers have their black dragons, they can do whatever they'd like with them, and they'll be able to do whatever that may be on their own schedules.Jeff Cope wrote:Well, at least we have a date (we need to preorder by).Not sure if this is new news or not...but, just in case some haven't heard..here's the details on the Black Dragon promotion:
Game Trade Magazine wrote:Retailers can order (1) dragon for every case (four "bricks") of minis they pre-order before October 12, 2011.http://www.gametrademagazine.com/public/defaultalliancealert.asp?ai=111982
Time to talk to my FLGS and let him know I want one!
I made the mistake of repeating the October 12 date Jeff got from the Game Trade article without verifying it. I don't know where Game Trade got that date, because the actual cutoff date in WizKids' solicitation is October 1, not October 12.
Vic Wertz Chief Technical Officer |
I've added the following paragraph to the product description:
Note: Customers who preorder a Heroes & Monsters case before October 1 will have the opportunity to purchase the mighty Black Dragon, a special promotional miniature that towers over other figures in the set and sits on a 3-inch base. This offer will be limited to one Black Dragon per case purchased. (We'll contact purchasers by email regarding that offer as soon as details are finalized.)
Jeremy Mcgillan |
I've added the following paragraph to the product description:
Note: Customers who preorder a Heroes & Monsters case before October 1 will have the opportunity to purchase the mighty Black Dragon, a special promotional miniature that towers over other figures in the set and sits on a 3-inch base. This offer will be limited to one Black Dragon per case purchased. (We'll contact purchasers by email regarding that offer as soon as details are finalized.)
In that case I'm glad I pre-ordered 2 weeks ago :P
Dorgar |
Will we see a list of what minis are in the line before this date? If not that is truly disappointing as I really would love to have that dragon, but cannot justify plunking down nearly three hundred bucks when I don't even know what is going to be in the line, or what extra cost the dragon will come with (I understand this at least will be resolved before the deadline. I am ok with a random line. Not my ideal, but I understand why it is being done. I do not understand why you would keep the figures in the line unknown once they have been finalized. Keeping my fingers crossed for that line up :).
Hobbun |
Will we see a list of what minis are in the line before this date? If not that is truly disappointing as I really would love to have that dragon, but cannot justify plunking down nearly three hundred bucks when I don't even know what is going to be in the line, or what extra cost the dragon will come with (I understand this at least will be resolved before the deadline. I am ok with a random line. Not my ideal, but I understand why it is being done. I do not understand why you would keep the figures in the line unknown once they have been finalized. Keeping my fingers crossed for that line up :).
It's not Paizo that's making that decision, but WizKids. I really haven't bought WizKids products before, but from what I heard is they wait until relatively close to the release date to where they show the whole set. Now how 'close' is, I am not sure. Hopefully it is before the black dragon pre-release offer, although I already ordered my case.
However, I would expect pretty standard minis in the set. Goblin, hobgoblin, orc, ogre, etc. I would anticipate they are going to be Bestiary 1 monsters (not all, of course). And then you will see standard hero minis for the 11 core classes, as well. Would be nice to see for some of the additional classes as well, but I think this is your starter/intro set, basically.
Mazra |
Releasing the whole set list prior to release is unheard of from many manufacturers. D&D minis sets were never fully revealed by WotC until release date. Now there was always spoilers previewed ahead of time from various sources. Paizo has given us a clue or two along the way. Look at the pawns in the Basic game set for some of what we can expect. The first set will have a more standard array of critters from fantasy RPG with that Pathfinder look; so they will have their uniqueness.
For some of us, opening a random booster with a miniature you have never seen before can be a treat. You get that "look at this" moment. How can I work this beauty into my Campaign? That may not be for everyone. Some people don't like being surprised on their birthday. :-)
Later,
Mazra
Aberzombie |
I expect that we'll be able to guarantee that case preorderers will also be able to acquire the dragon pretty much right up to the release date. And I think I mentioned way back that we're looking at other ways to make it available as well.
This is what I'm hoping for. The price tag on the case prevents me from buying one (because I don't want my wife to murder me). But she might be more reasonable if I were to buy just the dragon itself.
Poet22 |
I have an INSANE collection of plastic and metal minis. When it comes to our gaming group, I am the "Miniature Guy". It works out because I DM so much but it is also a sick, sick obsession. Our group tends to paint our PCs in metal because the quality of the sculpt is superior to any mass produced plastic miniature. But for the much larger need of NPC and monster miniatures, I believe that pre-painted plastic minis are the best way to go, especially in large or huge minis. And as I have gotten older, I have had less time to paint. My favorite moment is when one of my buddies is serving as GM and says: "You see three four armed ape-like creatures with white fur" and I can yell: "Wait! I have those!!"
The pairing of Paizo and WizKids to produce this line is BRILLIANT!
Catprog |
Vic Wertz wrote:In that case I'm glad I pre-ordered 2 weeks ago :PI've added the following paragraph to the product description:
Note: Customers who preorder a Heroes & Monsters case before October 1 will have the opportunity to purchase the mighty Black Dragon, a special promotional miniature that towers over other figures in the set and sits on a 3-inch base. This offer will be limited to one Black Dragon per case purchased. (We'll contact purchasers by email regarding that offer as soon as details are finalized.)
Is the sidecart a preorder?
thenorthman |
Cpt_kirstov wrote:I would also preorder quickly if your are doing it through a FLGS. When my boss called Alliance yesterday, they told him that from the last 2 days that they expected to sell out before release day, and need to ration preorders.Now, what did those folks earlier in the thread say about poor business model and "nobody's gonna every buy this?" ;-)
Not sure they (we) said it would fail, I think it was more of a disappointment that it was going to be non-random. If "I" did say it would fail it was a mistake. I think though it could of been better...though.
But really in a case you get 76 mini's within that 76 mini's you are highly likely to get a full set of 40 according to the description (which I assume also only applies to factory sealed cases).
With out that in the description I wouldn't of personally got a case (even consider getting a second one).
Yet I have noticed a few people say they can't afford going that route. Which in a round about way means less sales right? Who knows if they sold a un-random set perhaps the sales could of been even better. The argument though is getting old and well never be able to be proven one way or another.
$233 for a set of 40 unique miniatures come to just over $5.80 a miniature. Plus with 36 extra ones lowers the price to around $3.06 a miniature. (As long as I do end up with a complete set or at the very least only one or two missing from a complete set I'll be happy.)
Then the reason I am considering a second case is it might mean I get three complete sets out of it. (Fingers crossed)
Grotnar |
Gorbacz wrote:Cpt_kirstov wrote:I would also preorder quickly if your are doing it through a FLGS. When my boss called Alliance yesterday, they told him that from the last 2 days that they expected to sell out before release day, and need to ration preorders.Now, what did those folks earlier in the thread say about poor business model and "nobody's gonna every buy this?" ;-)Not sure they (we) said it would fail, I think it was more of a disappointment that it was going to be non-random. If "I" did say it would fail it was a mistake. I think though it could of been better...though.
But really in a case you get 76 mini's within that 76 mini's you are highly likely to get a full set of 40 according to the description (which I assume also only applies to factory sealed cases).
With out that in the description I wouldn't of personally got a case (even consider getting a second one).
Yet I have noticed a few people say they can't afford going that route. Which in a round about way means less sales right? Who knows if they sold a un-random set perhaps the sales could of been even better. The argument though is getting old and well never be able to be proven one way or another.
$233 for a set of 40 unique miniatures come to just over $5.80 a miniature. Plus with 36 extra ones lowers the price to around $3.06 a miniature. (As long as I do end up with a complete set or at the very least only one or two missing from a complete set I'll be happy.)
Then the reason I am considering a second case is it might mean I get three complete sets out of it. (Fingers crossed)
You should get more than 76 minis in case. If you only get 76 you would be missing some smalls. Remember, the standard booster is 2 smalls or 1 medium. You get 64 of these, each will contain 1 medium or 2 smalls. You get 12 large boosters, these have 1 large. So if you only got 76 minis, that would be 64 mediums, 12 larges, and no smalls. Unless they pack these really bad, you should be getting more than 100 minis, give or take.
And we don't yet know how many of each size there are. They only thing we can say is that if they expect many people to get a full set in one case, that there are 12 or less large. Cause if there were 13 or more, no one would get a full set in the case. We don't know how many are medium or small.
Mazra |
Yet I have noticed a few people say they can't afford going that route. Which in a round about way means less sales right? Who knows if they sold a un-random set perhaps the sales could of been even better. The argument though is getting old and well never be able to be proven one way or another.
First, there will always be those that cannot afford to buy miniatures. They are expensive and a bit of a luxury. Currently in my life, I can afford them, but there were definitely times in my life where I would not have been able to buy a case. Even today two cases would be quite a hardship. But think about it, does BMW quit producing cars because many can't afford them?
Second, the argument of whether the randomized format is unproven is simply wrong. Wizards of the Coast made over twenty sets of randomized miniatures. If the formula did not work do you think Hasbro's upper brass would have allowed it to continue for so long? Wizkids also has sold a lot of miniatures in a randomized format. These companies knew what they were doing...mostly. If there were any mistakes, it was mostly on matters concerning rarities, changing game formats in midstream, releasing sets too often and knowing when to slow down or quit the line. I really don't expect Paizo to make these mistakes. From everything I have seen to date, they are a better managed company with a far better grasp on the needs of fantasy RPGs.
$233 for a set of 40 unique miniatures come to just over $5.80 a miniature. Plus with 36 extra ones lowers the price to around $3.06 a miniature. (As long as I do end up with a complete set or at the very least only one or two missing from a complete set I'll be happy.)
Then the reason I am considering a second case is it might mean I get three complete sets out of it. (Fingers crossed)
Due to the relatively low number of Large boosters, I sincerely doubt that you can get three full sets from two cases. I think you will end up with a lot of commons and uncommons, and two full sets of rares. Also with around 100 miniatures to a case the price per miniature is under $3.00 each, not bad in today's economy.
Later,
Mazra
Brian E. Harris |
Then the reason I am considering a second case is it might mean I get three complete sets out of it. (Fingers crossed)
While the statements made about case distribution lead me to bank on getting a complete set (or darned close to it) in a single case, I so totally would NOT bank on coming close to three complete sets from two cases.
I think you'll be lucky to get one of each "rare" out of a single case.
Brian E. Harris |
You should get more than 76 minis in case. If you only get 76 you would be missing some smalls. Remember, the standard booster is 2 smalls or 1 medium. You get 64 of these, each will contain 1 medium or 2 smalls. You get 12 large boosters, these have 1 large. So if you only got 76 minis, that would be 64 mediums, 12 larges, and no smalls. Unless they pack these really bad, you should be getting more than 100 minis, give or take.
And we don't yet know how many of each size there are. They only thing we can say is that if they expect many people to get a full set in one case, that there are 12 or less large. Cause if there were 13 or more, no one would get a full set in the case. We don't know how many are medium or small.
I'm guesstimating here, based on DDM distribution, which I'll freely admit, doesn't exactly correspond given that this isn't DDM, and I'm not exactly pulling from compiled statistics anywhere.
I suspect that we'll see 6-8 different larges, and probably 6-8 different small pairs, leaving 24-28 different mediums.
This would allow for duplicates (uncommon/common) in all size categories, and mediums typically make up the majority of sets since they're the most common PC/NPC/encounter critter size.
I honestly can't guess at rarity distribution, as that's been all over the scale in DDM and SWM sets. I only hope that we see the "normal" C/U/R distribution rather than the C/U/R/VR style.
KaeYoss |
pres man wrote:That would be MiniatureMarket.com selling the case for $200 +free shipping and the case w/dragon for $215 +free shipping.Well I did it. I broke down and preorder a case.
** spoiler omitted **
Free shipping only to the US. I wonder how and for how much they'd ship overseas.
pres man |
Shivok wrote:Free shipping only to the US. I wonder how and for how much they'd ship overseas.pres man wrote:That would be MiniatureMarket.com selling the case for $200 +free shipping and the case w/dragon for $215 +free shipping.Well I did it. I broke down and preorder a case.
** spoiler omitted **
I'm not particularly comfortable discussing another online store's prices here ...
Hobbun |
I think you'll be lucky to get one of each "rare" out of a single case.
No, I don't think so. I think there is going to be high chance you will get every rare, and actually at least one of every miniature in the set. From what Paizo has said, WizKids/Paizo are planning for at least a complete set in each case (and I say 'at least' as of course you will have duplicates in only a 40 mini set). The only reason they don't guarantee anything as they said there is the element of human error during packaging.
The distribution is not going to be anything like a case of DDM where you received 4 of one rare and 6 rares you didn't even see.
Brinebeast |
I broke down the Bestiary by monster size catagories and included the variants to see what the lay out would look like. I suspected the majority would be medium but was surprised to see just how small that majority is. Looking at just the monsters from the Bestiary a minitures set should have about about equal numbers of medium and large figures.
Heres the break down of monsters by size from the PRPG Bestiary:
Tiny - 19
Small - 56
Medium - 132
Large - 131
Huge - 49
Gargantuan - 21
Colossal - 10
Variation in all size catagories - 21
Swarms - 8
So here's hoping we see a lot more large size mini's in the future. And maybe some huges too.
Brian E. Harris |
Brian E. Harris wrote:
I think you'll be lucky to get one of each "rare" out of a single case.No, I don't think so. I think there is going to be high chance you will get every rare, and actually at least one of every miniature in the set. From what Paizo has said, WizKids/Paizo are planning for at least a complete set in each case (and I say 'at least' as of course you will have duplicates in only a 40 mini set). The only reason they don't guarantee anything as they said there is the element of human error during packaging.
The distribution is not going to be anything like a case of DDM where you received 4 of one rare and 6 rares you didn't even see.
That's not what I'm saying.
I'm saying, you probably shouldn't gamble on getting a third complete set out of the purchase of two cases.
If I didn't phrase that correctly, my apologies.
Dorgar |
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I have been reading the thread from the beginning and I appreciate your speculations and observations. I was hoping that as Vic has said there are WizKids folks paying attention to this thread. I do not expect to see every mini in the line, but I would like a general list of the line. Yes, I am sure that we will see mostly bestiary 1 mobs and an assortment of hero's that could stand in multiple roles. For me the cost of a case is a big investment of my gaming dollars. I am one of those people who like to have a general idea of what I'm in for at least. I enjoy opening up a blind pack and seeing goodies for the first time as much as the next guy. That doesn't mean I don't like to know the options that are possible. I have a ton of undead mini's for example if this set was a 1/4 skeletons, zombies, ghouls, etc. I probably would hold off on a case and try and get what I want in the after market. If it also was 1/4 beasts and aberrations of which I have few it may pull me back in. All in all I am excited for the line and want a chance at that dragon, but I will wait and see what the line holds before I commit.
Hobbun |
That's not what I'm saying.
I'm saying, you probably shouldn't gamble on getting a third complete set out of the purchase of two cases.
If I didn't phrase that correctly, my apologies.
Ok, my misunderstanding then. You had made reference of being lucky if you got all the rares in a single case. Since Paizo has said they are trying for a complete set for each case, you would most likely receive all the rares (and more) in one case. So I thought you were saying you didn't anticipate receiving a complete set in a case (i.e. all the rares).
I do agree with you though, I would not expect, or really even hope (setting yourself up for disappointment), for 3 complete sets in 2 cases.
KaeYoss |
Yes, I am sure that we will see mostly bestiary 1 mobs
Bestiary 1 doesn't contain any mobs. In fact, PF hasn't had a mob rule so far (there might be something in GMG I overlooked, though, or they'll just use swarm rules, maybe modify them a bit).
There might be some swarms, but other than that, mostly single monsters.
pres man |
Dorgar wrote:Yes, I am sure that we will see mostly bestiary 1 mobsBestiary 1 doesn't contain any mobs. In fact, PF hasn't had a mob rule so far (there might be something in GMG I overlooked, though, or they'll just use swarm rules, maybe modify them a bit).
There might be some swarms, but other than that, mostly single monsters.
I think you are being a little (ok, a lot) too literal here. I think we realize that he was talking about creatures that are most often encountered in groups. Goblins, for example, are rarely fought individually, but instead in groups.
Stewart Perkins |
KaeYoss wrote:I think you are being a little (ok, a lot) too literal here. I think we realize that he was talking about creatures that are most often encountered in groups. Goblins, for example, are rarely fought individually, but instead in groups.Dorgar wrote:Yes, I am sure that we will see mostly bestiary 1 mobsBestiary 1 doesn't contain any mobs. In fact, PF hasn't had a mob rule so far (there might be something in GMG I overlooked, though, or they'll just use swarm rules, maybe modify them a bit).
There might be some swarms, but other than that, mostly single monsters.
He wasn't what I call serious in any fashion. On a side note that Dragon looks awesome!
Caineach |
KaeYoss wrote:I think you are being a little (ok, a lot) too literal here. I think we realize that he was talking about creatures that are most often encountered in groups. Goblins, for example, are rarely fought individually, but instead in groups.Dorgar wrote:Yes, I am sure that we will see mostly bestiary 1 mobsBestiary 1 doesn't contain any mobs. In fact, PF hasn't had a mob rule so far (there might be something in GMG I overlooked, though, or they'll just use swarm rules, maybe modify them a bit).
There might be some swarms, but other than that, mostly single monsters.
Have you encountered KaeYoss on these boards before. I'm guessing no :)
KaeYoss |
He wasn't what I call serious in any fashion.
There's a sign that lets people know I'm not being serious:
When I'm not being serious, I post.
But then again, I don't like the more silly parts of MMO speak. A single creature isn't a mob. A mob is a number of people - or the Mafia. So unless a critter has lots of friends around (and maybe wears Armani suits) and attacks all at once, don't call it a mob. :P
Stewart Perkins |
pres man wrote:Have you encountered KaeYoss on these boards before. I'm guessing no :)KaeYoss wrote:I think you are being a little (ok, a lot) too literal here. I think we realize that he was talking about creatures that are most often encountered in groups. Goblins, for example, are rarely fought individually, but instead in groups.Dorgar wrote:Yes, I am sure that we will see mostly bestiary 1 mobsBestiary 1 doesn't contain any mobs. In fact, PF hasn't had a mob rule so far (there might be something in GMG I overlooked, though, or they'll just use swarm rules, maybe modify them a bit).
There might be some swarms, but other than that, mostly single monsters.
Having been a minor part of the community for quite sometime now, I must say that I have seen both Pres Man and KaeYoss in many of the same threads, They have met I'm sure. :P
Gorbacz |
This reminds me of something that makes me laugh every time.
Everybody says we need fresh new blood in the hobby, RPGs are stagnated, yadda yadda.
Then along comes a MMO player who is new to pen-and-paper and starts talking with their lingo of mobs, tanks and DPS.
Reaction? "OMG MMO KIDS RUINING OUR GAME GET OUT STOP TALKING LIKE THAT!"
Heh.
thenobledrake |
This reminds me of something that makes me laugh every time.
Everybody says we need fresh new blood in the hobby, RPGs are stagnated, yadda yadda.
Then along comes a MMO player who is new to pen-and-paper and starts talking with their lingo of mobs, tanks and DPS.
Reaction? "OMG MMO KIDS RUINING OUR GAME GET OUT STOP TALKING LIKE THAT!"
Heh.
Sad but true... though some of us restrain ourselves a bit better than that - like my "please don't talk about MMOs that you play while we are at the table for a game, they are distracting conversations." table-rule, and my re-education process of teaching them to use "monster" in place of "mob" and to drop almost all of the rest of the lingo because it doesn't really apply.
Steve Geddes |
Stewart Perkins wrote:
He wasn't what I call serious in any fashion.There's a sign that lets people know I'm not being serious:
When I'm not being serious, I post.
But then again, I don't like the more silly parts of MMO speak. A single creature isn't a mob. A mob is a number of people - or the Mafia. So unless a critter has lots of friends around (and maybe wears Armani suits) and attacks all at once, don't call it a mob. :P
I've never played an MMO, but I used to MUD a lot. "back then" mob was used for any non player creature and was an abbreviation of mobile.
Aarontendo |
Ya know, not to sound too hippy like but I'd love to see the cases without all the extra packaging. Sell cases where the miniatures are in lil plastic bags or whatever and save a few trees on all the extra cardboard. I'm sure lots of the case and brick buyers aren't interested in the individual boxes anyways.
Probably too late for the ones coming in December, but for future sets maybe a possibility? We are in the Pacific NW n all we're environmentally friendly! ;p
Enlight_Bystand |
KaeYoss wrote:I've never played an MMO, but I used to MUD a lot. "back then" mob was used for any non player creature and was an abbreviation of mobile.Stewart Perkins wrote:
He wasn't what I call serious in any fashion.There's a sign that lets people know I'm not being serious:
When I'm not being serious, I post.
But then again, I don't like the more silly parts of MMO speak. A single creature isn't a mob. A mob is a number of people - or the Mafia. So unless a critter has lots of friends around (and maybe wears Armani suits) and attacks all at once, don't call it a mob. :P
That is the definition and application usually used in MMOs.
Vernon Fults |
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The one thing I hope WizKids accomplishes that DDM never did: consistent scale. I have DDM figures that are all over the place in scale; 25mm to 33mm, dwarves taller than humans, near-halfling sized humans.....I'm sure everyone is familiar with the problem. Please WizKids, pick a scale and stick with it!
Regards,
V
bugleyman |
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The one thing I hope WizKids accomplishes that DDM never did: consistent scale. I have DDM figures that are all over the place in scale; 25mm to 33mm, dwarves taller than humans, near-halfling sized humans.....I'm sure everyone is familiar with the problem. Please WizKids, pick a scale and stick with it!
Regards,
V
THIS. Please.
Dorgar |
:D Kaeyoss I defiantly knew you were kidding around as soon as I saw your post. Please forgive my use of mmo jargon as it was nearly 2am and at the end of a long day.
I have been a gamer (you know the kind that roll dice and stuff I still hate that those pesky video game players co-opted our name for themselves;P)for about 30 years now so I am hardly a newcomer. I just want good sculpts representative of pathfinder's art style of useful critters that are not readily available. It is hard to find non humanoid beasties in metal (not impossible) reaper has some pretty good ones every once in a while. I also have a couple of their plastic purple worm minis (love that mini)!! DDM has several cool options but I am not shelling out the inflated price on most of them because they made um rare or have some super keen ability in the skirmish game. So yeah I am really hoping this line has a lot of what I as a GM am looking for.