Branding Opportunity |
Interesting note: None of the events from any of the APs seem to be incorporated.
This is not terribly surprising, as incorporating any of the changes from the APs would open up a HUGE can of geopolitical worms and would also, in some eyes, "invalidate" them. Why run an AP if Paizo says that in their world it's already happened?
I just thought I would note this, since this is (AFAIK) the first publication to re-examine areas heavily affected by the APs.
Sean K Reynolds Contributor |
Majuba |
Dark_Mistress wrote:Holy Bleep! Is the PDF suppose to be a 146mb big?I've had a look through, and I'm not seeing a lot of ways to get that much smaller. No single image is all that big, but there are several hundred illustrations in chapter 2 alone, which is 184 pages long.
I was just looking at the 192 MB size for the single-chapter version myself. Still downloading, and I'm no expert, but it does seem "too" big.
Just for comparison:
No complaints here if that's just the amount of super quality images we're getting, but figured I should mention.
Vic Wertz Chief Technical Officer |
No complaints here if that's just the amount of super quality images we're getting, but figured I should mention.
It really is just a lot of images. Chapter 2 generally gives four pages for each country; within those four pages, the first page has a half-page illo, a regional inset map, and an image of that country's standard/flag. The second and fourth pages usually each have a spot illustration (a few countries have only one), and the third page has a detailed half-page regional map. So, you're generally getting five or six images per four pages in a section that runs for well over a hundred pages. I did confirm that we didn't do anything like have giant uncropped world maps embedded in there by accident...
Majuba |
Finished downloading - none of the chapters is disproportionally large (Chapter 2 still huge of course).
A somewhat larger background image (183k vs. 130k in the Core Rulebook) might contribute a bit.
Regardless, it's downloaded, so why am I not reading it! :)
James Jacobs Creative Director |
Interesting note: None of the events from any of the APs seem to be incorporated.
This is 100% on purpose. We don't want to self-obsolete older adventures by giving readers the assumption that the chance for them to play those adventures is passed. That's been our philosophy from the start.
John Benbo RPG Superstar 2011 Top 8 |
thenorthman |
On my iPad it is dong some strange things. Its like not all the layers are showing or something.
A small corner is the page color I would of expected a light tan. Then the rest of it is a darker brown.
I also see this darker brown for a brief second as its displaying on a coputer but hen it settles down to what I assume is the correct page layout.
Any ideas?
Sean
Alizor |
On my iPad it is dong some strange things. Its like not all the layers are showing or something.
A small corner is the page color I would of expected a light tan. Then the rest of it is a darker brown.
I also see this darker brown for a brief second as its displaying on a coputer but hen it settles down to what I assume is the correct page layout.
Any ideas?
Sean
My home computer (Snow Leopard, Preview) did the same thing. When I opened in Acrobat Reader it displayed correctly, albeit much slower.
James Jacobs Creative Director |
The Manawaste entry is just taunting us with the revolvers and rifles in the Alkenstar Firearms picture. Are we going to see a return of Scatterguns, Rifles, and Revolvers in Ultimate Combat or has Alkenstar's technology been retconned?
Things like scatterguns and revolvers MIGHT be part of the Mana Wastes, but they're not widespread enough to warrent inclusion in the Inner Sea World Guide. They'll be in the upcoming "Ultimate Combat" though, so if you want to put them into your version of Golarion, come Gen Con you'll have the rules.
We wanted to have only the barest minimum of guns in the Inner Sea World Guide, so that GMs would have an easier time adjusting the level of guns in their games, basically.
Vic Wertz Chief Technical Officer |
Now that it's starting to ship, are the RPG Superstar contestants still bound by the nondisclosure agreement? If so, I'll continue to take my cytillesh extract on a daily basis as I was going mad being one of the few people having such forbidden knowledge.
The agreement states that "For the sake of clarity, all advance copies of Paizo Publishing products given in electronic or physical form are considered Confidential Materials until after their public release dates." So since we've started releasing this product to subscribers, it no longer carries the restrictions placed upon Confidential Materials by that agreement.
Vic Wertz Chief Technical Officer |
A somewhat larger background image (183k vs. 130k in the Core Rulebook) might contribute a bit.
If you set it up properly*, the PDF format will include repeated materials just once per file, so that means that larger background image contributes an additional 53k per file, not 53k per page.
James Jacobs Creative Director |
Thanks a lot! The book is truly a masterpiece; it was well worth the wait :)
(Now get to work and make me my Tian Xia version of this *whipcrack*)
Will do! It'll take about the same amount of time it took us to get this one out, though... and keep in mind we technically started working on this book in 2007.
So if we don't have a 320 page hardcover Tian Xia world guide out by 2015... drop me a line and I'll let you know what the delay is! ;-)
thenorthman |
Charles Evans 25 |
Just to report, looking at the chapter by chapter pdf using Acrobat Reader version 8.2.5, the 'Inner Sea' chapter page numbers used by Acrobat do not match up to the actual numbers given on the images of the pages. (Acrobat treats them as pages 1 to 184.)
All the other chapters have page numbers employed by Acrobat which match the numbers given on the images of the pages.
Other than that the pdf is looking good so far, even if all the art makes for slooooow scrolling on the antiquated computer I'm using. :D
thenorthman |
How do I buy the pdf? The product page says it won't be available until March 23.
As a bonus for subscribers they get it as soon as they have their credit card charged and its shipped (usually same day or with in a couple).
Regular street date is March 23rd. I believe this is also a target date for the actual book too FLGS.
Sean
LoreKeeper |
Will do! It'll take about the same amount of time it took us to get this one out, though... and keep in mind we technically started working on this book in 2007.
So if we don't have a 320 page hardcover Tian Xia world guide out by 2015... drop me a line and I'll let you know what the delay is! ;-)
Excellent! Proof positive is here
James Jacobs Creative Director |
James Jacobs wrote:Will do! It'll take about the same amount of time it took us to get this one out, though... and keep in mind we technically started working on this book in 2007.
So if we don't have a 320 page hardcover Tian Xia world guide out by 2015... drop me a line and I'll let you know what the delay is! ;-)
Excellent! Proof positive is here
Heh... excellent example of putting words into my mouth (since I don't remember actually making any promises other than to tell you why a book hasn't been published by a certain date...)!
Vic Wertz Chief Technical Officer |
thenorthman |
thenorthman wrote:Your link requires login, so I can't see it... but i do know that Apple's PDF engine doesn't always render transparencies correctly.Vic Wertz wrote:...Vic,
Any idea why its doing as mentioned earlier the dark brown with a corner of each page the light tan.
Thanks!!!
Sean
Copy that, another Apple issue.
That's a bummer. This is the first PDF that showed up like this having an issue of this sort. I have had all except a few of the module PDFs too. oh and the first player companion on second darkness.
Sorry about the picture I could of swore I had share to all. Oh well doesn't sound like a Pazio issue. Dispute it being the first one I had trouble with like this.
Sea
Dragnmoon |
Copy that, another Apple issue.
That's a bummer. This is the first PDF that showed up like this having an issue of this sort. I have had all except a few of the module PDFs too. oh and the first player companion on second darkness.
Sorry about the picture I could of swore I had share to all. Oh well doesn't sound like a Pazio issue. Dispute it being the first one I had trouble with like this.
Sea
You try using Adobe Reader? It seems to fix a lot of the problems the Apple reader has.
thenorthman |
thenorthman wrote:You try using Adobe Reader? It seems to fix a lot of the problems the Apple reader has.
Copy that, another Apple issue.
That's a bummer. This is the first PDF that showed up like this having an issue of this sort. I have had all except a few of the module PDFs too. oh and the first player companion on second darkness.
Sorry about the picture I could of swore I had share to all. Oh well doesn't sound like a Pazio issue. Dispute it being the first one I had trouble with like this.
Sea
I truthfully have not looked in a while but Adobe has an app for iPad?
Dragnmoon |
I truthfully have not looked in a while but Adobe has an app for iPad?
sorry, should have paid more attention.. I thought you meant for the Mac.
unfortunately though developers are allowed to fix the problem on the Mac, they are not allowed to fix the problem on the iPad.
thenorthman |
thenorthman wrote:
I truthfully have not looked in a while but Adobe has an app for iPad?
sorry, should have paid more attention.. I thought you meant for the Mac.
unfortunately though developers are allowed to fix the problem on the Mac, they are not allowed to fix the problem on the iPad.
Yea its strange this is the first PDF I have had this problem with.
Which leads one to believe it isn't Apple on this one. But.....
Dragnmoon |
Yea its strange this is the first PDF I have had this problem with.
Which leads one to believe it isn't Apple on this one. But.....
To give Paizo credit, Every issue I know of to date with Apple Reader and Paizo products, has been on Apples side. Apple is not very fast on fixing problems either with PDF issues.
If I had my Mac with me I would test it, but I don't.
thenorthman |
thenorthman wrote:
Yea its strange this is the first PDF I have had this problem with.
Which leads one to believe it isn't Apple on this one. But.....
To give Paizo credit, Every issue I know of to date with Apple Reader and Paizo products, has been on Apples side. Apple is not very fast on fixing problems either with PDF issues.
If I had my Mac with me I would test it, but I don't.
Its pure speculation on my part but Vic says that their is a known problem about Apple products doing transparencies with none of the previous PDF's of Pazio that I have reproducing this issue.
Which leads me to believe okay they have had this issue but did a work around on all the previous PDF's they have distributed.
Its like Pazio just decided to not do the work around any more if there was previous issues but none have shown up before for me. But like I said its pure speculation.
Its also wholly in their right but frustrating to the consumer.
Then again.....I am only speculating from past and present experience.
I will live the way it is.
Sean
Wolf Munroe |
LoreKeeper wrote:Heh... excellent example of putting words into my mouth (since I don't remember actually making any promises other than to tell you why a book hasn't been published by a certain date...)!James Jacobs wrote:Will do! It'll take about the same amount of time it took us to get this one out, though... and keep in mind we technically started working on this book in 2007.
So if we don't have a 320 page hardcover Tian Xia world guide out by 2015... drop me a line and I'll let you know what the delay is! ;-)
Excellent! Proof positive is here
You need some fine print here on the website that says "Posts on the messageboards by Paizo employees may include forward-looking statements. While Paizo does its best not to create false hype or mislead our customers, forward-looking statements should not be considered promises or confirmations for the development or release of proposed products."
:-)
Erik Mona Chief Creative Officer, Publisher |
Generic Villain |
It seems the Aspis Consortium received a revision since the Faction Guide. In the Faction Guide, the leader of the AC was the mysterious "Aspis Prophet." According to the World Guide though, the AC is headed by two executives and a board of directors (the Patrons). No Aspis Prophet is mentioned. Also, the AC headquarters moved from Westgate to Osteno, though it still has a strong presence in Westgate. Not that I mind really - just something I noticed.
Are the 3 named Patrons mentioned in the Faction Guide still around? It was a half-fiend, a gnome alchemist, and someone else, all living in Westgate.
Thanks if anyone feels like clarifying this.
James Jacobs Creative Director |
It seems the Aspis Consortium received a revision since the Faction Guide. In the Faction Guide, the leader of the AC was the mysterious "Aspis Prophet." According to the World Guide though, the AC is headed by two executives and a board of directors (the Patrons). No Aspis Prophet is mentioned. Also, the AC headquarters moved from Westgate to Osteno, though it still has a strong presence in Westgate. Not that I mind really - just something I noticed.
Are the 3 named Patrons mentioned in the Faction Guide still around? It was a half-fiend, a gnome alchemist, and someone else, all living in Westgate.
Thanks if anyone feels like clarifying this.
The three named Patrons from the Faction Guide are still around, but they're not "leaders" of the Aspis Consortium, really. The Faction guide got a little squirrelly, alas. The Inner Sea World Guide has the most accurate information about the Consortium.
Todd Stewart Contributor |
It seems the Aspis Consortium received a revision since the Faction Guide. In the Faction Guide, the leader of the AC was the mysterious "Aspis Prophet." According to the World Guide though, the AC is headed by two executives and a board of directors (the Patrons). No Aspis Prophet is mentioned. Also, the AC headquarters moved from Westgate to Osteno, though it still has a strong presence in Westgate. Not that I mind really - just something I noticed.
Are the 3 named Patrons mentioned in the Faction Guide still around? It was a half-fiend, a gnome alchemist, and someone else, all living in Westgate.
Thanks if anyone feels like clarifying this.
The original material detailing the Aspis prophet, and some background for the various patrons motivations was cut from the original Golarion Campaign Setting, but the prophet's name was still there as the group's leader. That got built upon in the Faction Guide a bit, and there were some details for three of the patrons, etc. They're presented as a little less supernatural and more worldly in the Inner Sea World Guide, but even with the differences it's really good stuff and the art is awesome.
It's probably worth getting some official stance on the issue from James et al, since I don't know, and I wrote the group's details in the original campaign book and the faction guide. It is however possible to reconcile them both with the material in the Inner Sea World Guide with little to no retcons. :)
Edit: Ninja'd by the man himself. :D
Vic Wertz Chief Technical Officer |
Dragnmoon wrote:thenorthman wrote:
Yea its strange this is the first PDF I have had this problem with.
Which leads one to believe it isn't Apple on this one. But.....
To give Paizo credit, Every issue I know of to date with Apple Reader and Paizo products, has been on Apples side. Apple is not very fast on fixing problems either with PDF issues.
If I had my Mac with me I would test it, but I don't.
Its pure speculation on my part but Vic says that their is a known problem about Apple products doing transparencies with none of the previous PDF's of Pazio that I have reproducing this issue.
Which leads me to believe okay they have had this issue but did a work around on all the previous PDF's they have distributed.
Its like Pazio just decided to not do the work around any more if there was previous issues but none have shown up before for me. But like I said its pure speculation.
This has happened to us before in just a couple of cases that I know of, but in those cases, the problem was limited to a single image in each case, so fixing it was relatively easy. (In both those cases, the fix was to rework the way that those transparencies interact with the page backgrounds in Photoshop instead of in our page layout program—which also means that folks with a fine eye might be able to see some differences between the PDF and the printed book with respect to those images.) Given the larger scope here, I suspect that implementing that workaround would take more time that we're prepared to spend on it right now. I will look into it more, though.
Is the problem limited solely to pages using that one background, or have you spotted other issues?
thenorthman |
....
Vic,
I uploaded a picture to my Facebook page so hopefully you can see it now.
iPad view of the Campaign Setting book
Its every page so not sure it is an easy fix...but then again the fact that it is every page it might be easier since it could be a single cause.
Of course I thought I knew something about PDF's but I am seeing I know nothing. Gonna have to get a book and do some studying up. Just because....
Any way thank you for your time.
Sean
Vic Wertz Chief Technical Officer |
Vic Wertz wrote:....Vic,
I uploaded a picture to my Facebook page so hopefully you can see it now.
iPad view of the Campaign Setting book
Its every page so not sure it is an easy fix...but then again the fact that it is every page it might be easier since it could be a single cause.
Of course I thought I knew something about PDF's but I am seeing I know nothing. Gonna have to get a book and do some studying up. Just because....
Any way thank you for your time.
Sean
That's not public either. I do have Preview on Mac OS 10.6, though, so I can see what you're talking about.
So nobody has found any issues outside of that background?
Vic Wertz Chief Technical Officer |
Skeld |
So nobody has found any issues outside of that background?
I see the same thing using GoodReader on my iPad. Otherwise, i haven't noticed any other issues with ISWG on iPad, other than the pages rendering slower than normal (I'm sure due to the file size and what-not).
-Skeld