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The godling is a new character concept designed for use with the Pathfinder RPG. The godling is presented as both a base class (suitable for 1st level characters) and a prestige class (requiring characters to be higher level before taking it).

The godling is a mortal hero in whose veins flows the blood of a god. Cut from the same cloth as classic ancient heroes such as Theseus (fathered by both a mortal father, Aegeus, and a divine father, Poseidon), Memnon (son of a half-nymph mortal father and the titan/goddess Eos), and Helen (the famous beauty who was the daughter of Zeus), most godlings are the offspring of a god and a mortal humanoid who drew the god’s eye. Godlings are not demigods—at least not yet—for their birth on the material plane prevents them from being classified as outsiders. Initially bound to the dust and earth of their birthplace, godlings are nonetheless more than mere mortals. They have inherited divine powers that, with time and experience, grow and allow godlings to rise and become powerful and famous heroes. (Of course there are many other possible origins of godlings—see Godlings in Your Campaign at the end of the product.)

Godlings are blessed (or cursed) with lives of adventure. They are thrust into dangerous quests and major events at a young age and often spend their entire adult lives moving from crisis to crisis, sought out by those who need their help, and hunted by those who wish them harm for no reason other than to spite their godly parents. Many godlings are made aware of their inherent power early in life, and are taught to respect both its origins and the responsibility it conveys. Others have no idea why they are able to perform feats that other mortals cannot, and may think themselves to be freaks or monsters (or some odd kind of sorcerer).

Godling Base Class
The godling base class is for characters that begin play with their deific heritage a known and active part of their lives. These characters know they are scions of the gods and are out to prove themselves worthy heirs by engaging in adventures in the mortal world. The godling base class actually contains two subclasses—clever and mighty godlings. These options are treated as different iterations of the same class, so a character cannot multiclass as two different kinds of godling.

Godling Prestige Class
Not all godlings realize who and want they are at the beginning of their adventuring careers. Indeed, some receive no special powers until their divine parents acknowledge their relationship. The godling prestige class is presented as a way to allow characters to undergo a deific metamorphosis later in their lives.

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Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:

So, both eldritch godling and cleric are classes that "classes that grant both 0-level and 1stlevel spells at level 1" so you add their levels together for MiM, for a caster level of 3.

Mystic Theurge certainly isn't a class that "classes that grant both 0-level and 1st level spells at level 1." You could argue whether by RAW it's even a "class that grants up to 4th level spells," but it pretty clearly is, so you get *half* its levels, or in this case 5. Same with Arcane Heirophant, for 3. Your caster level is 11.... worse than a normal Mystic Theurge spell.

If you decided MT and AH counted as "classes that grant both 0-level and 1st level spells at level 1." you's still top out at CL 20 with that 20-level build.

What MiM is most useful for is a eldritch godling/cleric built without MT, or one with MT that wants a little extra CL, but the rules of MiM can never give you a CL that exceeds your character level.

Now, I admit, this may seem like a house of cards to you, but this is honestly how I took it the first time I read it.

If you go by this line of MT:

Mystic Theurge wrote:
Spells per Day:...This essentially means that he adds the level of mystic theurge to the level of whatever other arcane spellcasting class and divine spellcasting class the character has, then determines spells per day, spells known, and caster level accordingly. ...
Taking this literally, it might not be such a stretch to say that your effective level for CL calculations for Eldritch and Cleric is 19 and 18 respectively. Taking it to the next step:
Magic is Magic wrote:
To determine your caster level for all your spellcasting classes, add all your levels in classes that grant both 0-level and 1st level spells at level 1,

At this point I added 19 and 18 for 37.

Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:
(Ignoring the fact I don't see how you qualified for Mystic Theurge)

I use two feats, one from 3.5, Versatile Spellcaster (Races of the Dragon) and Heighten Spell Metamagic, which are legal methods of entering MT early according to WotC.

Anyway, I'm not trying to argue my way into a rule change ;-p, just clarifying where I am coming from.


Hey Owen...just curious if there's any word about the revision for the Godling?

I hate to be a pest about it but I'd like to know what the current status of the update was? Thanks Owen!

Paizo Employee Modules Overlord

Merlin_47 wrote:

Hey Owen...just curious if there's any word about the revision for the Godling?

I hate to be a pest about it but I'd like to know what the current status of the update was? Thanks Owen!

I never consider interest in our products as pestering. In fact, oddly, we like to encourage that sort of thing. :)

That said, it's not moved forward recently. Getting our "Magus" reskinned as the Magister is our priority, and I has a personal issue eat up two weeks of my work-time. But it is high on our list of classes to be revised, so I hope to get to it by the end of summer. But that's a hope, not a schedule. :)


Okay...thank you for the update at least! It's a great class and I'm curious as to what is being changed and what isn't. Looking forward to it!


Hello all,

First of all, thanks for this great product. Be it as a player or GM, I like the idea of having mighty (or clever, adept, etc.) heroes roaming the realms of medieval fantasy.

I have several questions on which an "official" stance would be appreciated.

1) The four Godling base classes are described as same but different. Does that mean that you can select "Godling" as favored class and reap the benefits of all levels if you multiclass (say: mighty/adept)?

2) The Lineage Domain powers are stated as depending on Wisdom for the Mighty godling, and "your spellcasting ability" (which can be Strength, for all I understood). If a Mighty/Adept godling was to gain a Lineage through the Extra Talent feat (for instance), what would be the ability its powers depend on?

3) Same example as above with multiclassing a Mighty/Adept godling. The cap of Divine Traits isn't the same for each class. Do the players choose which cap to use each time they gain points?

4) The Divine Weapon greater scion talent can summon a weapon. If the character has invested in Two-Weapon Fighting, does he have to select that talent twice to summon two weapons?

Thanks again.


Another question: on d20pfsrd.com (and, I'm guessing, on the product itself - at least, the first printing), each of the subclasses of Godling has specific powers, with a wording adapted to the subclass.

5) The Mighty Godling can select Improved Evasion as a Greater Scion Talent, which requires the Godling to have Evasion beforehand. But he doesn't seem to have Evasion as Scion Talent, Greater or not. Is it normal?

6) The Retribution talent is made of two paragraphs. The first says you can make a melee attack when you are hit. The second paragraph starts with "Alternatively" and ends saying that "this ability" counts against your AoO, you can't use it if you can't do AoO, and you can use "this ability" 3+highest modifier per day.
- Why not say "you gain an AoO" instead? Is it because it should be resolved after the initial hit?
- How can we make 3+highest modifier attacks while being restricted to 1+Dex mod (referring to "you can't use this ability if you can't do an AoO")?
- Finally, does "this ability" refers to the text following the "Alternatively", or is it the whole "Retribution" thing?

Thanks.


Pathfinder Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Roleplaying Game Subscriber

I believe they have wording that you cannot multiclass into a different type of godling when you have already chosen a different one. I'll try to find it.

EDIT: found it, opening page.

"The godling base class actually contains two subclasses—
clever and mighty godlings. These options are treated
as different iterations of the same class, so a character
cannot multiclass as two different kinds of godling."

The adept and eldritch would also follow under this restriction, so no multiclassing godling/godling.

EDIT2: regarding point 5, the greater scion 'Improved Evasion' says 'the godling' not the mighty specifically. It also cites evasion as a prereq and evasion calls out clever godling only so improved evasion is also clever godling only.

Points 1, 2, and 3 are answered by the no multiclassing text, but owen (or another) would need to answer #4 for you. My 'guess' would be take twice.

Hope this helps!


Thanks.

I thought you could "multiclass" godling/godling, with the following restriction (as seen on d20pfsrd.com):

Quote:

FAQ/Errata

Can you multiclass a mystic godling with and non-mystic godling?
Mighty godling can multiclass with adept godling or eldritch godling

That's why I was wondering.


No further answer?

Rathendar wrote:
I believe they have wording that you cannot multiclass into a different type of godling when you have already chosen a different one (...)

I understand that you can't multiclass mighty godling with clever godling, and that you can't multiclass adept godling with eldritch godling. However, the FAQ (from d20pfsrd.com, my personal favourite) says that you can multiclass a mystic (adept or eldritch) godling with a non-mystic one (mighty or clever). If this is correct, this allows for the following combinations: mighty/adept, mighty/eldritch, clever/adept, clever/eldritch. Let's have a player take the first (mighty/adept), what is the answer to my questions? Let me rewrite them:

  • 1) To indicate his favored class, does he have to take "Godling" or "Adept Godling" (or "Mighty Godling") ?
    - If he takes "Godling", does that apply to levels in both Godling subclasses/iterations?

  • 2) He takes the Extra Lineage Domain feat. Does its abilities depend on Wisdom (as a Mighty godling) or his spellcasting ability (as the Adept says)?
    - Are the domain powers based on his levels in both godling classes?

  • 3) Each subclass/iteration has different list of abilities. For instance, a purely Mighty godling can take Artificer II, and an Adept godling can take Artificer up to IV. What level can a Mighty/Adept godling reach?

  • 4) The Divine Weapon greater scion talent can summon a weapon. If the character has invested in Two-Weapon Fighting, does he have to select that talent twice to summon two weapons? - I understand and agree with Rathendar's guess (take twice), but is this official?

  • 5) The Mighty Godling can select Improved Evasion as a Greater Scion Talent, which requires the Godling to have Evasion beforehand. But he doesn't seem to have Evasion as Scion Talent, Greater or not. Is it normal?
    Rathendar wrote:
    regarding point 5, the greater scion 'Improved Evasion' says 'the godling' not the mighty specifically. It also cites evasion as a prereq and evasion calls out clever godling only so improved evasion is also clever godling only.

    For me, there are three choices, undecided until a dev chimes in:

    - The Mighty Godling can have Evasion as Scion Talent (not RAW) and Improved Evasion as Greater Scion Talent (RAW),
    - The Mighty Godling can't have Evasion (RAW) nor Improved Evasion (not RAW), or
    - The Mighty Godling can multiclass and gain evasion through another class (NOT Clever godling) and later gain Improved Evasion as Greater Scion Talent (purely RAW, but complicated... was it RAI?)

  • 6) (listed for completeness) The Retribution talent is made of two paragraphs. The first says you can make a melee attack when you are hit. The second paragraph starts with "Alternatively" and ends saying that "this ability" counts against your AoO, you can't use it if you can't do AoO, and you can use "this ability" 3+highest modifier per day.
    - Why not say "you gain an AoO" instead? Is it because it should be resolved after the initial hit?
    - How can we make 3+highest modifier attacks while being restricted to 1+Dex mod (referring to "you can't use this ability if you can't do an AoO")?
    - Finally, does "this ability" refers to the text following the "Alternatively", or is it the whole "Retribution" thing?

Sorry if this whole post became bloated, I've often seen questions ignored in threads if they aren't asked in the last few posts.

Minister of Propaganda, Super Genius Games

I've pinged Owen so hopefully he'll be able to help out. :)


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Thank you very much. Dare I say, Minister, you brought Super Genius to the game tables around the world... :-)

Paizo Employee Contributor; Developer, Super Genius Games

Louis IX wrote:
I understand that you can't multiclass mighty godling with clever godling, and that you can't multiclass adept godling with eldritch godling. However, the FAQ (from d20pfsrd.com, my personal favourite) says that you can multiclass a mystic (adept or eldritch) godling with a non-mystic one (mighty or clever). If this is correct, this allows for the following combinations: mighty/adept, mighty/eldritch, clever/adept, clever/eldritch.

Yeah, I said once you could do one from column a (clever/mighty) and one from column b (adept/eldritch). That may have been a mistake...

Louis IX wrote:

Let's have a player take the first (mighty/adept), what is the answer to my questions? Let me rewrite them:

[list]

  • 1) To indicate his favored class, does he have to take "Godling" or "Adept Godling" (or "Mighty Godling") ?
    - If he takes "Godling", does that apply to levels in both Godling subclasses/iterations?
  • If you can multiclass in both classes, then they are separate classes. You must designate just one kind of godling as your favored class.

    Louis IX wrote:
  • 2) He takes the Extra Lineage Domain feat. Does its abilities depend on Wisdom (as a Mighty godling) or his spellcasting ability (as the Adept says)?
  • If he gained the feat through the class features of a class, it acts as it does for that specific godling class. If he gains it through advancement to a higher character level, he may choose which of his classes it works as.

    Louis IX wrote:
    - Are the domain powers based on his levels in both godling classes?

    Answer this however you would answer a cleric/inquisitor multiclass with the same domain within your campaign.

    Louis IX wrote:
  • 3) Each subclass/iteration has different list of abilities. For instance, a purely Mighty godling can take Artificer II, and an Adept godling can take Artificer up to IV. What level can a Mighty/Adept godling reach?
  • Best of the two classes.

    Louis IX wrote:
  • 4) The Divine Weapon greater scion talent can summon a weapon. If the character has invested in Two-Weapon Fighting, does he have to select that talent twice to summon two weapons? - I understand and agree with Rathendar's guess (take twice), but is this official?
  • There's no official way to get two Divine Weapons, but I don't think it breaks anything to let someone take it twice and get two weapons. I clearly need to address this in an expansion or revision.

    I'll try to get to the rest of these later today.


    Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber

    count me as another fan eagerly awaiting a ruling on questions #5 and #6. :-)

    Paizo Employee Contributor; Developer, Super Genius Games

    Sorry, it can take a bit to get the time to answer longer questions.

    Louis IX wrote:

    5) The Mighty Godling can select Improved Evasion as a Greater Scion Talent, which requires the Godling to have Evasion beforehand. But he doesn't seem to have Evasion as Scion Talent, Greater or not. Is it normal?

    Rathendar wrote:

    regarding point 5, the greater scion 'Improved Evasion' says 'the godling' not the mighty specifically. It also cites evasion as a prereq and evasion calls out clever godling only so improved evasion is also clever godling only.

    For me, there are three choices, undecided until a dev chimes in:
    [[[snip]]]
    - The Mighty Godling can multiclass and gain evasion through another class (NOT Clever godling) and later gain Improved Evasion as Greater Scion Talent (purely RAW, but complicated... was it RAI?)

    This is both RAW and RAI. In playtesting, a LOT of people mutlcilassed godlings. I wanted the clever godling to be able to pick up evasion and improved evasion by itself, and other godlings to be able to take improved evasion as a godling if they had picked up evasion elsewhere.

    It's also really important to remember there are 5 godling classes, not 4. There is a godling prestige class, and it can access greater scion talents. So if you play a rogue or range who takes the godling PrC, the improved evasion GST is available if you have evasion already.

    Louis IX wrote:

    6) (listed for completeness) The Retribution talent is made of two paragraphs. The first says you can make a melee attack when you are hit. The second paragraph starts with "Alternatively" and ends saying that "this ability" counts against your AoO, you can't use it if you can't do AoO, and you can use "this ability" 3+highest modifier per day.

    - Why not say "you gain an AoO" instead? Is it because it should be resolved after the initial hit?
    - How can we make 3+highest modifier attacks while being restricted to 1+Dex mod (referring to "you can't use this ability if you can't do an AoO")?
    - Finally, does "this ability" refers to the text following the "Alternatively", or is it the whole "Retribution" thing?

    Let's look at the full text, as it appears in The Genius Guide to the Godling Ascendant:

    "Retribution (Su): When foes dare to strike your person, which is a vessel for the divine energies that make you a godling,
    you can call upon those divine energies to strike down the heathens who dare defile your physical perfection. When you are hit by a melee attack, you may make a melee attack at your full attack bonus against the attacker. Alternatively, you may cast a touch or ranged touch spell with a casting time of 1 standard action or less at the attacker.

    [An aside: This is the paragraph break, not before "Alternatively." The break at PFSRD.com is incorrect. I love the site as a reference and use it all the time, but obviously if you have questions about the details of one of our classes I recommend you buy the original pdf. :D]

    Using this ability counts against your attacks of opportunity for the round, and you cannot use it if some condition or circumstance prevents you from making attacks of opportunity. You may use this ability a number of times per day equal to 3 + your highest ability modifier."

    So, to answer the questions in order:

    Quote:

    - Why not say "you gain an AoO" instead? Is it because it should be resolved after the initial hit?

    First, yes. Second, it's not an AoO. If you have bonuses that apply to AoOs (such as the Opportunity Power metapsionic feat) they don't apply to Retribution (so a psionic with the Godling PrC can't use retribution to both stab someone, AND add a psionic power to the attack).

    Quote:
    - How can we make 3+highest modifier attacks while being restricted to 1+Dex mod (referring to "you can't use this ability if you can't do an AoO")?

    A character without Combat Reflexes can normally make 1 AoO per round. A character with Combat Reflexes can normally make Dex mod +1 AoO per round. If you have used all those, you can't use retribution in that round.

    But the ability mod +3 is how often you can use retribution per day. Even if you can only make 1 per round, you may eventually hit your daily cap.

    Quote:
    - Finally, does "this ability" refers to the text following the "Alternatively", or is it the whole "Retribution" thing?

    The entire power, which I think it clear when you see how I actually wrote it.

    Thanks for the questions!


    Thank you Owen for your answers. I understand completely that, having made a class with a specific vocabulary and rules ("iteration" and no multiclassing) and later allowing mystic/non-mystic multiclassing may seem like a mistake, just because it opens a can of worms e.g. my questions. Thanks for owing up to your decision and not just say something like "since it's difficult, let's not multiclass anymore".

    #1 is completely understandable. We just fold back the "subclass/iteration" terms into the generic "class" (I haven't talked about the godling prestige class yet, have I?)

    #2 is understandable as well. Since #1 and we consider each subclass as a specific class, one wouldn't profit from both subclass when considering a domain powers.

    #3 was one of my most sought-after answer, thank you.

    #4 was just a clarification. Since one of the character concepts we discussed here was a TWF godling, it seemed incompatible with this power.

    #5 confirms what I thought.

    #6 clears up my misunderstanding(s).

    Thanks again. Once my group has playtested the one build I spoke about earlier for a couple levels, we will buy the pdf and make a whole team of ass-kicking mythical heroes :D

    {edited to add comments on #5 and #6}


    Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber
    Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:
    good stuff

    thank you very much for the clarification! it's great to get a clear answer to our questions.

    but...:
    i wish a single-classed mighty godling could get evasion.


    messy wrote:
    ** spoiler omitted **

    Spoiler:
    A Ring of Evasion might help in that regard...

    Note: The Retribution info on D20pfsrd.com has been fixed. Sorry for the confusion. And yes, you should buy everything Godling related because it is really good stuff and it's nice having all the material in one spot.


    Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:
    Louis IX wrote:
    I understand that you can't multiclass mighty godling with clever godling, and that you can't multiclass adept godling with eldritch godling. However, the FAQ (from d20pfsrd.com, my personal favourite) says that you can multiclass a mystic (adept or eldritch) godling with a non-mystic one (mighty or clever). If this is correct, this allows for the following combinations: mighty/adept, mighty/eldritch, clever/adept, clever/eldritch.

    Yeah, I said once you could do one from column a (clever/mighty) and one from column b (adept/eldritch). That may have been a mistake...

    Do you want to count this as an errata and have that section removed from the d20pfsrd.com pages?

    Paizo Employee Contributor; Developer, Super Genius Games

    Caedwyr wrote:
    Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:
    Yeah, I said once you could do one from column a (clever/mighty) and one from column b (adept/eldritch). That may have been a mistake...
    Do you want to count this as an errata and have that section removed from the d20pfsrd.com pages?

    No, not yet. I'm pondering this one and I don't want to ask d20pfsrd.com to keep up with my every musing. The Godlings are coming up for a revision anyway, I'll tackle the question there.


    Okay, Powerful Lineage says you can use your whole class level instead of your Godling level to determine ECL.

    Don't quite get that, does that mean if you're something else 10/ Godling 4 you can use the 10 as your ECL (or 8 since it's up to double your Godling levels?)

    Also, will you be making it possible for a prestige Godling to become a Demigod?

    The character in question is a scion of Zeus who didn't know their lineage until they placed a sword in a dais and their power awakened.

    Paizo Employee Contributor; Developer, Super Genius Games

    Jonathan Michaels wrote:

    Okay, Powerful Lineage says you can use your whole class level instead of your Godling level to determine ECL.

    Don't quite get that, does that mean if you're something else 10/ Godling 4 you can use the 10 as your ECL (or 8 since it's up to double your Godling levels?)

    Yep, that is what it means. A might godlingy 4/barbarian 4 with Powerful lineage has an effective cleric level of 8 for determining the effectiveness of the powers of his lineage domains. since it's capped at double godling level, a barbairan 10/mighty godling 4 would indeed have an effective elvel of 8 when determining his domain powers and their effects.

    Jonathan Michaels wrote:

    Also, will you be making it possible for a prestige Godling to become a Demigod?

    The character in question is a scion of Zeus who didn't know their lineage until they placed a sword in a dais and their power awakened.

    I suppose we might eventually. For example, I have a lot of people who want to see the Mythic rules tied into godlings somehow.


    Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:
    Jonathan Michaels wrote:

    Okay, Powerful Lineage says you can use your whole class level instead of your Godling level to determine ECL.

    Don't quite get that, does that mean if you're something else 10/ Godling 4 you can use the 10 as your ECL (or 8 since it's up to double your Godling levels?)

    Yep, that is what it means. A might godlingy 4/barbarian 4 with Powerful lineage has an effective cleric level of 8 for determining the effectiveness of the powers of his lineage domains. since it's capped at double godling level, a barbairan 10/mighty godling 4 would indeed have an effective elvel of 8 when determining his domain powers and their effects.

    Jonathan Michaels wrote:

    Also, will you be making it possible for a prestige Godling to become a Demigod?

    The character in question is a scion of Zeus who didn't know their lineage until they placed a sword in a dais and their power awakened.

    I suppose we might eventually. For example, I have a lot of people who want to see the Mythic rules tied into godlings somehow.

    Awesome, thanks for responding so quickly.

    I would have built her as a Godling from the beginning, but I didn't even know she was Zeus's daughter until level 7, the DM surprised me with it.


    Oh, one more question, Shapeshifter, it says one minute per Godling level or until you decide to change back, I assume you mean whichever comes first.

    And it says in IV you can assume any form you like,But since you mention it functions as Greater Polymorph does this mean you still cannot assume the form of a specific person?

    Paizo Employee Contributor; Developer, Super Genius Games

    Jonathan Michaels wrote:

    Oh, one more question, Shapeshifter, it says one minute per Godling level or until you decide to change back, I assume you mean whichever comes first.

    And it says in IV you can assume any form you like,But since you mention it functions as Greater Polymorph does this mean you still cannot assume the form of a specific person?

    Yes, and yes. :)


    Thanks again, this is gonna be fun.


    Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:
    Caedwyr wrote:
    Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:
    Yeah, I said once you could do one from column a (clever/mighty) and one from column b (adept/eldritch). That may have been a mistake...
    Do you want to count this as an errata and have that section removed from the d20pfsrd.com pages?
    No, not yet. I'm pondering this one and I don't want to ask d20pfsrd.com to keep up with my every musing. The Godlings are coming up for a revision anyway, I'll tackle the question there.

    It has been about a year. Will we be seeing a revision of the Godling soon? (crosses fingers)

    Thanks.


    Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:


    I suppose we might eventually. For example, I have a lot of people who want to see the Mythic rules tied into godlings somehow.

    I have been playing a Godling for a while, and we added mythic ranks, and it felt so right! :D

    What I would like to see, rather than tie the Godlings to Mythic specifically, is to add some mythic feats / Path abilities that are used with Godling class abilities. There are a number of those in the Mythic book that really only help a few classes, and some ones for the Godling would be pretty cool.

    Love the fact that you are looking back on these.

    Paizo Employee Contributor

    Obviously both Mythic Adventures and my departure from Super Genius impacted my plans to revise the Godling classes.

    A revision is still in the works, but I don't have an eta yet.


    Absolutely.

    Just knowing there may be more coming is great. Just like I'd love to see a 15 or 20 page supplement for the Magister. One of my favorite classes.


    Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:


    Obviously both Mythic Adventures and my departure from Super Genius impacted my plans to revise the Godling classes.

    A revision is still in the works, but I don't have an eta yet.

    Well I'm hoping that the Godlings will be able to channel. As it is, I have replaced the 4th level feat of the mighty/clever with channel, and added that to the mystic. Just made sense to me.

    Paizo Employee Contributor

    There's some evidence that the ability to channel may be able to be linked to a feat cost (through the oracle of Bones, oddly), but I'm not sure the overall cost yet. Pathfinder design assumes the ability to channel is so powerful that Extra Channel can't be taken more than once, unlike every other "Extra" feat.

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