Just dropping into the thread to say, I just rolled up a Gnome Sorcerer this weekend to play in a Kingmaker game PLAY! Not GM! A rare thing indeed for me, which should bold and underline how infrequently I get to play as a PC.

This book, which I picked up on a whim the day before character creation, made my mind up for me. I was on the fence between Gnome, Human, and Half-Elf, but after this there was no turning back. Not only is this my favorite Companion product, it's also hands down my favorite racially themed supplement, period.

DM Wellard wrote:

Nor is there a description of the flickmace.

ALREADY ANSWERED IN THIS THREAD.

Well, vaguely commented by Sean on rather than answered.

IIRC it was a mace with a built-in spring, allowing you to use an action to change it from a normal mace to a reach weapon.

Since these (flickmace and switchscythe) are honest editing mistakes for which the original text should still be available, could one of the Paizo worthies please dump it into this thread? My gnomish bard could make good use of a flickmace, if I knew the details.

May I safely assume that this book does indeed rescue Gnomes from the "PC Scrappy heap"? I would like to see how Golarion's Gnomes differ the all-too-often "punier and friendlier dwarves" niche they seem to have filled before.

May I safely assume that this book does indeed rescue Gnomes from the "PC Scrappy heap"? I would like to see how Golarion's Gnomes differ the all-too-often "punier and friendlier dwarves" niche they seem to have filled before.

Yep! Gnomes in Golarion have been unique and non-sucky since day one, but this provides the most in-depth look at their history, physiology, culture, weapons, settlements, etc. than any previous source.

Yeah paizo has for the first time ever IMHO made gnomes interesting and gave them their own niche. This product just takes what they already started and makes it better.

Sean K Reynolds wrote:

IIRC it was a mace with a built-in spring, allowing you to use an action to change it from a normal mace to a reach weapon.

Since these (flickmace and switchscythe) are honest editing mistakes for which the original text should still be available, could one of the Paizo worthies please dump it into this thread? My gnomish bard could make good use of a flickmace, if I knew the details.

Here's my take on it, based on the fact that it's a reach and trip weapon. Basically, think of it like acting like an umbrella:

This mace has a spring-loaded haft which can be used to suddenly extend the mace into a reach weapon. Triggering the spring is a swift action which does not provoke attacks of opportunity. When triggered, the wielder may aim the mace at an adjacent foe by making a melee touch attack. If this hits, the wielder can then make a trip attack against that target. They may be tripped during this trip attempt, but it does not otherwise provoke. Whoever is tripped ends up prone 5' further away from their opponent. Resetting the mace to a non-reach weapon is a standard action which does provoke. While in reach mode, all attacks take a -2 penalty due to unbalanced weight.

Thoughts?

Would still love some answers to these questions:

Flickmace - how far of a reach does it have? What actions are required to extend it and then retract it (move, standard, free, etc.)?
Switchscythe - what is the cost for it? Are the rest of the stats the same as a regular scythe?
Gnome weapons - which ones, if any, of them are considered a Gnome weapons and are therefore Martial instead of Exotic for Gnomes?

If there was an errata somewhere about this, I have failed to find it.

Would still love some answers to these questions:

Flickmace - how far of a reach does it have? What actions are required to extend it and then retract it (move, standard, free, etc.)?
Switchscythe - what is the cost for it? Are the rest of the stats the same as a regular scythe?
Gnome weapons - which ones, if any, of them are considered a Gnome weapons and are therefore Martial instead of Exotic for Gnomes?

If there was an errata somewhere about this, I have failed to find it.

There hasn't been yet. I'd hope that Paizo will errata it in a second printing, if they get that far.

Markusdark wrote:

Would still love some answers to these questions:

Flickmace - how far of a reach does it have? What actions are required to extend it and then retract it (move, standard, free, etc.)?
Switchscythe - what is the cost for it? Are the rest of the stats the same as a regular scythe?
Gnome weapons - which ones, if any, of them are considered a Gnome weapons and are therefore Martial instead of Exotic for Gnomes?

If there was an errata somewhere about this, I have failed to find it.

There hasn't been yet. I'd hope that Paizo will errata it in a second printing, if they get that far.

Wow that seems very 1950's. Its a simple request that remedies their publishing mistake. I don't mean to sound critical but this should happen here, yesterday.

Of course they are busy etc.... but really are they watching customer reactions?

Wow that seems very 1950's. Its a simple request that remedies their publishing mistake. I don't mean to sound critical but this should happen here, yesterday.

Of course they are busy etc.... but really are they watching customer reactions?

This is one of my Biggest complaints with Paizo, Unless they do a second printing you will never see an errata, except for random posts spread throughout the forums.

And we are too busy is not cutting it for me anymore after 2+ years.

Don't expect an reprint of this, so don't expect an errata.

We launched a system to help us compile errata in August, but to start with, it's only available for the core RPG products. Once we get it ironed out, we'll start applying it to other products.

And we are too busy is not cutting it for me anymore after 2+ years.

I'd expect that *most* people looking in would guess that, given the success of the Pathfinder RPG, we're probably busier than ever, and they'd be right. But our priority is, and always will be, making sure new material is as close to on schedule as we can get.

We launched a system to help us compile errata in August, but to start with, it's only available for the core RPG products. Once we get it ironed out, we'll start applying it to other products.

Dragnmoon wrote:

And we are too busy is not cutting it for me anymore after 2+ years.

I'd expect that *most* people looking in would guess that, given the success of the Pathfinder RPG, we're probably busier than ever, and they'd be right. But our priority is, and always will be, making sure new material is as close to on schedule as we can get.

Like I said... Not cutting it anymore...I know your busy... don't care anymore after hearing the same thing since you stopped doing Dragon/Dungeon.

To me it is important enough for you to find the time...

Though I except others will disagree. And I now realize you will never do Erratas for books that don't go into second printing, you will always be "Too Busy".

Edit: Edited for errors ;)

And I now realize you will never do Erratas for books that don't go into second printing...

I just told you that we'll be applying the new FAQ/errata compilation system to other products in the future...

Dragnmoon wrote:

And I now realize you will never do Erratas for books that don't go into second printing...

I just told you that we'll be applying the new FAQ/errata compilation system to other products in the future...

Vic...are you confusing me with someone else? when did you tell me that? And I was not aware that the FAQ was an Errata to.

Edit: NM... Missed the statement above what you quoted from me.

That said... I still was not aware that the FAQ system was going to be an Errata to.. Does that mean it will be used to fix Stat block mistakes to or just to clear up mistakes in the text that where not clear enough.. I am looking for both.

That said... I still was not aware that the FAQ system was going to be an Errata to.. Does that mean it will be used to fix Stat block mistakes to or just to clear up mistakes in the text that where not clear enough.. I am looking for both.

One thing we've learned over the last year is that different people have different definitions of and expectations for FAQs and errata, so I'm hesitant to use those terms a lot. But to give you examples, you can use the system to report everything from rules questions to typos.

The folks behind the scenes will note the typos in case that book gets reprinted or that material gets reused somewhere, but they probably won't bother putting stuff that doesn't affect gameplay anywhere visible to you, unless it gets incorporated into a formal errata PDF (which I'll define here as a document that describes changes between printings) if we reprint.

The more important an issue is to gameplay, though, the more likely it will be added to the publicly viewable FAQ. (There's no reason a FAQ can't include a question like "The guy on page 56 has a CMB of 15. Is that right?")

Thanks for the Answer Vic. I have a few more questions, but moving the to the Appropriate forum thread.

By all means make it easy for you to not duplicate your efforts.

I realize you guys have a lot of products but a window to respond to each product's shortfalls seems a reasonable thing especially if you have subscribers who trust you guys for a high quality product. "Product Discussion" would be a very logical place for the consumer.

It's not really a centralization issue because you're going to want the responder to be familiar with that product anyway.

In your shoes, I might even remove the product discussion thread if its not possible to answer questions etc... They'll just turn into a gripe session if people feel ignored.

btw.

I wanted to send you this as a private message but I couldn't see how to do that either.

I wanted to send you this as a private message but I couldn't see how to do that either.

There is no way...

Sigurd wrote:

I wanted to send you this as a private message but I couldn't see how to do that either.

There is no way...

There is e-mail.

Yup, everything comes together for probably the least appreciated race in fantasy gaming. Now I see no reason to play any other race than a Gnome.

This book is light-hearted, relevant and changes Gnomes enough to make them interesting and fun and more Fey than Elves. Finally!

I think the things I like best about Golarion are the things that have changed most. Goblins and gnomes are at the top of that list.

And 'we are too busy' is not cutting it for me anymore after 2+ years.

Bingo; and make it 3+ years now, since I'm necro'ing this thread (whose most recent post before mine was over a year earlier).

It'd take like two minutes for somebody to swing in with "These are the stats of a Flickmace" or "Flickmace does not exist; ignore the entry". Yet, no errata tag for this product.

Dragnmoon wrote:

And 'we are too busy' is not cutting it for me anymore after 2+ years.

Bingo; and make it 3+ years now, since I'm necro'ing this thread (whose most recent post before mine was over a year earlier).

May 2010 --> Dec 2011 = 3 years? Gotcha.

Ah! A developer with time on his hands!

<gleeful feeling>

How does a Gnome Flickmace work?

Ah! A developer with time on his hands!

<gleeful feeling>

How does a Gnome Flickmace work?

All we've said about it is here.

Can you use the Adopted Trait (Social) to Take one of the Gnome Social Traits in this book?

Can you use the Adopted Trait (Social) to Take one of the Gnome Social Traits in this book?

This question appears to remain unanswered and has popped up in a new thread.

Hi Folks!

I've got a quick question that I'm hoping can garner an answer . . .

Gnomes of Golarion, page 14 of the Gnome Traits chapter, includes a statement that all the included traits are considered gnome racial traits and continues to state that only gnomes can take them.

It then makes the following statement: (Of course, a character of a different race could still select a gnome racial trait if she has the Adopted trait presented in the Pathfinder RPG Character Traits Web Enhancement.)

Now, the Adopted trait clearly states that Race traits can be taken and we have seen in numerous threads here on this messageboard that there is a difference between Race traits and Racial traits.

So was it the intention of the authors to allow all of the traits in Gnomes of Golarion to be taken as part of the adopted trait? Or did the authors make a mistake in the book?

Thanks for any help here.

P.S. I'm working on this book for PCGen and it makes a big difference which is the case.