Robert Miller 55 |
Robert Miller 55 wrote:
"Shipping to distributors already? You think they can be trusted to hold to the release date? "
Vic Wertz Wrote:
"We do trust our distributors to do their best to get books to retailers within a couple days of the release date. Our distributors know that if their retailers get them too early, then other retailers, other distributors, and Paizo will all be unhappy with them."
I own a game store in Colorado that carries the whole Pathfinder line (and pushes it relentlessly out of love). I can speak with absolute surety that the distributors are very good about street dates. In three years I have received product early only once, and the distributor called to inform me of their mistake and promised death if I sold any of it prior to its street date. Usually, I get Paizo products on the day of the street date, so I think the system works correctly.
By the way, 4E vs. 3.5 vs. Pathfinder rules debates aside, Paizo's products deserve respect for what they are at their core: a phenomenally well done story and game arc that allows players to make choices that actually impact their game, with support from side-line items that is second to none. I have seen conversions for this product to 4E, as well as conversions to OD&D. Read it, enjoy it, and use it for what you will.
Well, thats good to hear. I was just thinking from probably some years ago about people throwing fits about WOTC books getting released early, so its good to hear that they have apparently fixed the holes in the system since then.
Lisa Stevens CEO |
By the way, 4E vs. 3.5 vs. Pathfinder rules debates aside, Paizo's products deserve respect for what they are at their core: a phenomenally well done story and game arc that allows players to make choices that actually impact their game, with support from side-line items that is second to none. I have seen conversions for this product to 4E, as well as conversions to OD&D. Read it, enjoy it, and use it for what you will.
Thanks for the very kind words! Any chance you could let us know which retail store in Colorado you own?
Btw, we will be having a retail locator in the not too distant future. Please add your store to it when we launch it, as I would love to send customers your way. A hardcore Paizo B&M store is something I am very happy about!
-Lisa
Lisa Stevens CEO |
So for those of us set to "Ship with Pathfinder Adventure Path", will this book and Pathfinder #25 be shipping around the same time?
Yes. We will be shipping the RPG, Pathfinder #25, and the module Crypt of the Everflame starting at the beginning of August. So you can get all sorts of PFRGP goodness in the August shipment.
-Lisa
Bitter Thorn |
Cool! where in CO if I may ask? I'm in the Springs.
Robert Miller 55 wrote:
"Shipping to distributors already? You think they can be trusted to hold to the release date? "
Vic Wertz Wrote:
"We do trust our distributors to do their best to get books to retailers within a couple days of the release date. Our distributors know that if their retailers get them too early, then other retailers, other distributors, and Paizo will all be unhappy with them."
I own a game store in Colorado that carries the whole Pathfinder line (and pushes it relentlessly out of love). I can speak with absolute surety that the distributors are very good about street dates. In three years I have received product early only once, and the distributor called to inform me of their mistake and promised death if I sold any of it prior to its street date. Usually, I get Paizo products on the day of the street date, so I think the system works correctly.
By the way, 4E vs. 3.5 vs. Pathfinder rules debates aside, Paizo's products deserve respect for what they are at their core: a phenomenally well done story and game arc that allows players to make choices that actually impact their game, with support from side-line items that is second to none. I have seen conversions for this product to 4E, as well as conversions to OD&D. Read it, enjoy it, and use it for what you will.
Robert Miller 55 |
Matthew Morris RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8 |
Majuba |
Vic Wertz wrote:Would you believe Ohio is another country?Radavel wrote:Please ship my copy earlier, as it'll have to travel a long distance -- Philippines.International copies will be among the first to ship.
I thought you lived in Eastern Hungary Matthew - which goes by Ost-Hungarn, or OH in international mail codes...
I tried! - anyone know any foreign countries that might have 'TX' as initials?
Bitter Thorn |
Robert Miller 55 |
Robert Miller 55 wrote:Cool; is there a way know when they would ship the core book if I were to pre-order it from them?Bitter Thorn wrote:They are fine on clothing and books.Has anyone here pre-ordered books from Overstock.com? How are they?
They e-mail you a notification when it is shipped. Other than that, no.
Snoring Rock |
I know this may have already been discussed somewhere, but please humor this farm-boy. I pre-ordered my copy of the PFRPG rulebook from Amazon. They have a little post on the order stating that it is expected to arrive August 19. Well now, is that true? I know that it is released all official like as of August 13. I understand distributors have it already, or will have it by the 13th for release on time. So....is Amazon not a part of that?
Mark Moreland Director of Brand Strategy |
I know this may have already been discussed somewhere, but please humor this farm-boy. I pre-ordered my copy of the PFRPG rulebook from Amazon. They have a little post on the order stating that it is expected to arrive August 19. Well now, is that true? I know that it is released all official like as of August 13. I understand distributors have it already, or will have it by the 13th for release on time. So....is Amazon not a part of that?
Amazon likes all their new release dates to fall on Wednesdays. Since they can't release the book a day early, they have to wait to do so the first Wednesday after the 13th, which is the 19th.
Drogon Owner - Enchanted Grounds, President/Owner - Enchanted Grounds |
To Lisa Stevens and Bitter Thorn: The store is Enchanted Grounds in Highlands Ranch (a suburb south of Denver). We've been open for almost three years, and have carried Pathfinder since it was first announced.
I am actually an AD&D player, having never made the switch to 3.0, 3.5 or 4E, and played that from the time I was ten years old all the way through September, last year. It was around then when I read the RotRL modules, looking for ideas. I was so impressed that I pitched the idea of trying out the Pathfinder Beta rules to my home group, and they jumped on board. I taught my staff the basics of your line, and our sales have been very respectable, ever since. Pathfinder occupies a front and center spot on our RPG displayers, right next to 4E, and I have standing orders for everything Paizo publishes with ACD (my distributor). I currently have 10 presales on the PFRPG book, a number which is very respectable (I had 29 for the 4E PHB2).
That's probably more detail than you want, but I thought it might be worth noting, as the presale numbers are kind of on topic for this thread.
Anyway, keep up the good work, Lisa. Pathfinder releases are always highly anticipated by our staff and customers, and you've won a hard fan to please, in me (if that wasn't obvious by my refusal to switch to 3E or 4E).
And, Bitter Thorn, please introduce yourself when you come to visit. We plan on doing PF Society games in the store when they make to switch to PFRPG, and need to develop a good contact list. Just ask for Jeff.
Lisa Stevens CEO |
To Lisa Stevens and Bitter Thorn: The store is Enchanted Grounds in Highlands Ranch (a suburb south of Denver). We've been open for almost three years, and have carried Pathfinder since it was first announced.
I am actually an AD&D player, having never made the switch to 3.0, 3.5 or 4E, and played that from the time I was ten years old all the way through September, last year. It was around then when I read the RotRL modules, looking for ideas. I was so impressed that I pitched the idea of trying out the Pathfinder Beta rules to my home group, and they jumped on board. I taught my staff the basics of your line, and our sales have been very respectable, ever since. Pathfinder occupies a front and center spot on our RPG displayers, right next to 4E, and I have standing orders for everything Paizo publishes with ACD (my distributor). I currently have 10 presales on the PFRPG book, a number which is very respectable (I had 29 for the 4E PHB2).
That's probably more detail than you want, but I thought it might be worth noting, as the presale numbers are kind of on topic for this thread.
Anyway, keep up the good work, Lisa. Pathfinder releases are always highly anticipated by our staff and customers, and you've won a hard fan to please, in me (if that wasn't obvious by my refusal to switch to 3E or 4E).
And, Bitter Thorn, please introduce yourself when you come to visit. We plan on doing PF Society games in the store when they make to switch to PFRPG, and need to develop a good contact list. Just ask for Jeff.
Thanks for the details and support in your store Jeff! Sounds like our past gaming experiences are pretty on par, except I actually never made the switch to 2nd edition! And I was very late to the 3e scene, starting to DM back in 2004. If I am ever in the Denver area, I'll make sure to stop by and see your store. Sounds like a great place!
-Lisa
Bagpuss |
Dark Psion wrote:So for those of us set to "Ship with Pathfinder Adventure Path", will this book and Pathfinder #25 be shipping around the same time?Yes. We will be shipping the RPG, Pathfinder #25, and the module Crypt of the Everflame starting at the beginning of August. So you can get all sorts of PFRGP goodness in the August shipment.
-Lisa
Hmmm, but if I'm also a subscriber to the Companion and Chronicles and the Maps and that is all held for one shipment a month, am I going to be out of luck? "Is there a way for me to ensure I get the PFRPG hardback from my rules subscription for the release date?" is what I guess I'm asking. I could change my delivery preferences for a month, I guess, if that's what's required.
Bagpuss |
Lisa Stevens wrote:Hmmm, but if I'm also a subscriber to the Companion and Chronicles and the Maps and that is all held for one shipment a month, am I going to be out of luck? "Is there a way for me to ensure I get the PFRPG hardback from my rules subscription for the release date?" is what I guess I'm asking. I could change my delivery preferences for a month, I guess, if that's what's required.Dark Psion wrote:So for those of us set to "Ship with Pathfinder Adventure Path", will this book and Pathfinder #25 be shipping around the same time?Yes. We will be shipping the RPG, Pathfinder #25, and the module Crypt of the Everflame starting at the beginning of August. So you can get all sorts of PFRGP goodness in the August shipment.
-Lisa
Alison just answered this question for me. It seems I should be OK if all goes according to Paizo's plan (the ones for shipping orders, not the Top Secret World Domination Plans).
Vic Wertz Chief Technical Officer |
Snoring Rock wrote:I know this may have already been discussed somewhere, but please humor this farm-boy. I pre-ordered my copy of the PFRPG rulebook from Amazon. They have a little post on the order stating that it is expected to arrive August 19. Well now, is that true? I know that it is released all official like as of August 13. I understand distributors have it already, or will have it by the 13th for release on time. So....is Amazon not a part of that?Amazon likes all their new release dates to fall on Wednesdays. Since they can't release the book a day early, they have to wait to do so the first Wednesday after the 13th, which is the 19th.
The same is true for everyone in the book trade, including overstock.com.
Ross Byers RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32 |
vagrant-poet |
I have a question I hope someone can answer. I plan on buying the PDF file and I want to know will it be one big file or will it come in Chapters like the Beta release did? I'm hoping in Chapters because it will be easier to look at.
You'll have the option of both. Its how they do all of their biggish pdfs. And this one is huge! Frakkin' Huge!
Vic Wertz Chief Technical Officer |
Fable the Blade |
Fable the Blade wrote:I have a question I hope someone can answer. I plan on buying the PDF file and I want to know will it be one big file or will it come in Chapters like the Beta release did? I'm hoping in Chapters because it will be easier to look at.Either (or both, if you like).
Thank you!!
Drogon Owner - Enchanted Grounds, President/Owner - Enchanted Grounds |
Ryan M Rank |
Now that the release is less than 2 weeks away, we can start to really dream about what we're going to do with this wonderful game.
For all of you GM's out there, what is the first campaign/adventure path/adventure you plan on running?
Me, you ask? I plan on doing a knockoff of the "Heritage of Shannara" series by Mr. Terry Brooks. I imagine that it will take some customization to make it work, but in the end, I'm really excited about how it will shape up.
And you?
Paul Watson |
Just a quick question - will is be shipping over here to us poor brits?
some game companies tend to leave us hanging a couple of months
It certainly will. My subscription copy is apparently due for shipping soon, and if it's not arrived by the end of August in most FLGS who've ordered it, I'll be shocked.
Neil Spicer Contributor, RPG Superstar 2009, RPG Superstar Judgernaut |
Dryder |
My shipment will be underway within the next few days, and as my last (july) shipment is underway for about ten days now, and the CoreBook (together with all the other august stuff) will be shipped with priority, chances are good that both packages will arrive within two days (not to think of getting them at the same day...).
I am sooo excited!
Watcher |
Snow Crash wrote:Ouch...I feel really old. I DM'ed my first game back in 1978Lisa Stevens wrote:And I was very late to the 3e scene, starting to DM back in 2004.
-Lisa
Wow you must be a young'un.
I dm'd my first game in 1986. Original D&D Red Box.
I played my first game in '78! It would be a while before I gmed though..
Majuba |
Me, you ask? I plan on doing a knockoff of the "Heritage of Shannara" series by Mr. Terry Brooks. I imagine that it will take some customization to make it work, but in the end, I'm really excited about how it will shape up.
Dragon Magazine #286 has a map of Shannara, and other details.
Lisa Stevens wrote:And I was very late to the 3e scene, starting to DM back in 2004.Wow you must be a young'un.
I dm'd my first game in 1986. Original D&D Red Box.
Ummm... not to contradict your statement, but Lisa went to Gen Cons well before '86 if I remember correctly...
For the record, I was *born* in '79, first game in '88 I think.
Lisa Stevens CEO |
Snow Crash wrote:Lisa Stevens wrote:And I was very late to the 3e scene, starting to DM back in 2004.Wow you must be a young'un.
I dm'd my first game in 1986. Original D&D Red Box.Ummm... not to contradict your statement, but Lisa went to Gen Cons well before '86 if I remember correctly...
For the record, I was *born* in '79, first game in '88 I think.
I started to DM 1st edition back in 1979 and DMed 1e until around 1987, when I started Lion Rampant and DMed Ars Magica and then Vampire for about 6 years. Then once I was up at WotC, I ran out of DM steam and didn't pick it back up again until 2004 or so when a couple of friends up here in Seattle urged me to start a campaign. And our campaigns have been great, injecting all sorts of enthusiasm back into my gaming.
Oh, yeah, and my first GenCon was 1982 I believe.
So, not quite THAT young. :)
-Lisa
nightflier |
Now that the release is less than 2 weeks away, we can start to really dream about what we're going to do with this wonderful game.
For all of you GM's out there, what is the first campaign/adventure path/adventure you plan on running?
Me, you ask? I plan on doing a knockoff of the "Heritage of Shannara" series by Mr. Terry Brooks. I imagine that it will take some customization to make it work, but in the end, I'm really excited about how it will shape up.
And you?
There's one number of Dragon Magazine dedicated to Shanara series.
Edit: But somebody already said as much.
Nevynxxx |
Lisa Stevens wrote:And I was very late to the 3e scene, starting to DM back in 2004.
-Lisa
Wow you must be a young'un.
I dm'd my first game in 1986. Original D&D Red Box.
You snipped the part where she said she never made it to second edition....Implying that she stuck with 1st edition, instead....
Ryan Rank |
Dragon Magazine #286 has a map of Shannara, and other details.
Thank you, Majuba. I'm actually going to retro-fit it into Varisia. It is civilized enough to have the requisite cities, but wild enough to have the nasties walk around. Korvosa will fill the void of the Federation well enough.
Does anyone else have their next adventure or campaign planned out?