Monte Cook's Collected Book of Experimental Might (OGL) Hardcover

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Third edition RPG icon Monte Cook comes to Paizo with a new print edition of his popular Books of Experimental Might! Previously available only in electronic form, The Collected Book of Experimental Might contains hundreds of options and new rules meant to inject life into 3.5 fantasy RPG campaigns.

    This 144-page hardcover collection of Monte's own house rules includes:
  • A spell progression system redefining spell levels from 1 to 20
  • New rules for fighting domains, including Two-Weapon Fighting, Mounted Combat, and Fighting Dirty, as well as techniques based on agility, speed, strength, and intellect—the domains provide new abilities to fighter types willing to devote themselves to a focused path
  • A retooling of the feat system, with three new concepts—double feats, oblation feats, and uberfeats—and dozens of new choices
  • Special benefits for choosing a feat as a fighter bonus feat, reinstating the fighter class as the king of feats
  • New rules for healing and curative magic
  • Powerful magical disciplines that allow wizards, clerics, druids, paladins, and rangers to have magic always active
  • The runeblade, a base class that combines magic and martial skill without the need for spells
  • Additional skills, feats, and combat rules
  • Dozens of spells and magic items

Inherent within these two books is the idea that characters should be able to keep on adventuring longer than the rules currently allow and that every class can use some extra options for greater playability. Start your own experiment now!

This book combines The Book of Experimental Might and The Book of Experimental Might II: Bloody, Bold, and Resolute.

ISBN: 978-1-60125-080-3

Monte Cook has been working on games professionally for more than 20 years. In that time, he has worked on a variety of games, including Dungeons & Dragons, Rolemaster, Champions, Call of Cthulhu, and Alternity. He designed HeroClix, and co-designed Dungeons & Dragons 3rd Edition, and wrote Planewalker's Handbook, Dead Gods, Return to the Temple of Elemental Evil and the Book of Vile Darkness, among many other D&D supplements. In 2001, he founded Malhavoc Press, and over the next few years published titles like the Book of Eldritch Might, Monte Cook's Arcana Evolved, and Ptolus: Monte Cook's City by the Spire.

Monte's also published two novels and numerous short stories, as well as a nonfictional but humorous book called the Very, Very Secret Book of Conspiracies.

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Incredible!

*****

While I'm not sure how I'm going to swing this into my PFRPG games, I will heartily endorse this product. Monte Cook delivers a thoughtful, well conceived set of alternative rules on a great many things. Spell levels from 1 to 20 alone would be worth the price of admission. Fighter domains easily worth the cover price. Bravo on another fine book, Monte!


Fantastic Game Variants for High Fantasy D&D

*****

The Collected BOXM certainly will remain as one of the greatest game variants to D&D itself, in my opinion, along with Arcana Unearthed, Pathfinder, True20 and others.

The changes are selective but dramatically change the game play. Healing becomes target-based instead of cleric-based, characters get feats every level, spell levels now match character levels (from 1 to 20th level spells), wizards don't run out of magical things to do while still retaining the Vancian magic system as a base for increasing power and abilities.

I think it would have been premature to take Pathfinder as a base since the final rules are not even published. It is, furthermore, totally possible to get a Pathfinder sorcerer concept going with BOXM as a pure Wizard, with the inventive use of some Bloodline feats.

A word of caution, however: this clearly is a game variant destined towards people who are already familiar with the 3.5 rules. The multiplication of feats, spells and other game components makes the game significantly more complex to approach (though easier to play in the end for the initiated). This is not a good product to bring people to gaming, in my opinion.

Now, that said, this is totally awesome. If you were the kind of player or DM interested in thoughtful variants to the base D&D game with Unearthed Arcana, Arcana Unearthed and others, this book is for you.


Great book but still disapointed.

***( )( )

Before I say why I found this was one of my most disappointing purchases for a long time, I'd like to say that this is a fantastic product; the changes to the rules that it introduces bring a breath of fresh air to 3.5, and more importantly, they are really, really, really cool.

My gripe? Well, gripes actually because there are two.

Firstly that the book addresses changes to 3.5 in such a way as to completely ignore all the brilliant work on Pathfinder. I think it’s pretty safe to say that most discerning gamers have moved from 3.5 to Pathfinder (3.75?) and appreciate the updated character classes presented there. This (brilliant) book also updates (and up-powers, it must be said) the character classes but to implement those changes into my Pathfinder campaign will require too much work. I, for one, buy a book where someone has already done the dirty work of play-testing for me and not to then slog my guts out adapting the rules to fit my game.

My second gripe involves Sorcerers. What has Mr Cook got against Sorcerers? They get a brief mention that says you don’t need them with the new rules, which is fine as far as 3.5 goes but in Pathfinder they are not only way cooler but also add a huge dollop of flavour to a character’s background. Again, Pathfinder is ignored, which is fine for those still playing 3.5 (if they exist) but I'm sure that they are few and far between these days.

So all in all a great book that I could have done with two years ago and if Monte adapts it to take the improvements already presented in the Pathfinder rules into account I’ll probably buy it again but for now it’s just a very good, idea provoking read on the shelf in my loo.


So many reasons to buy!

****( )

Let me begin with the reasons to buy this product:

  • Price. A good deal all around.
  • More 3rd Edition material.
  • Unique presentation.
  • If you liked Unearthed Arcana from Wizards, or Monte's own Arcana line, this is a nice companion.
  • Presages some of the good/interesting 4th Edition changes, and you don't have to work to adapt them to 3rd Edition.
  • Easy to put into play without drastic changes.

    Reasons not to buy:

  • If you do not like wholesale mechanical changes.
  • If you love glossy full-colour art.
  • Price - if you are on a budget, choose between Arcana Evolved, Pathfinder, or Experimental Might, as there is some overlap in these products.


  • I am reading through this book.

    *****

    I have just received this book and spent a few hours reading through it. I was in the process of preparing to run Second Darkness under the Beta but not for the playtest. I have found several items that I am considering implementing into the game. The current threads of how to upgrade the higher levels of Fighter should take a moment to read through this book. I like what I have read so far and plan to discuss the changes with my group before running Second Darkness. Thank you to Monte Cook and Paizo. Just my 2 cp.


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    Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

    We're pleased to officially announce Monte Cook's Collected Book of Experimental Might, due in January from Paizo and Malhavoc Press!


    Squee! :D

    Liberty's Edge

    damn
    i am supposed to spend less not more!!!

    Silver Crusade

    Pathfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

    There goes my January gaming budget...

    Paizo Employee Franchise Manager

    Aaaaaawesome!

    Scarab Sages

    super sweeet

    Liberty's Edge

    Adventure Path Charter Subscriber

    how will this align with Pathfinder RPG?


    very cool :) .........i've been hoping for this very book for awhile.....now just have to wait about a month and a half.........


    ~sighs~ I swear, one more super product and my wallet will go for my throat instead of my butt! ~grins~


    Paizo Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Deluxe Comics Subscriber; Pathfinder Legends Subscriber; Pathfinder Tales Subscriber; Starfinder Charter Superscriber

    Great news! Consider it bought. :)

    Dark Archive

    Mine, oh yes.

    Just let me charge up my card, and I'll preorder it ASAP.

    Liberty's Edge

    Paizo Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber; Pathfinder Tales Subscriber; Starfinder Charter Superscriber

    Am I the only one that does not Like Monte Cook's Products?....:-)

    Dark Archive

    Dragnmoon wrote:
    Am I the only one that does not Like Monte Cook's Products?....:-)

    Was that a confession? -hefts his torch and pitchfork expectantly-

    Scarab Sages

    Sweet, I was just wondering about this!

    Sovereign Court

    Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules, Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Tales Subscriber

    At last. Monte spoke about this two months ago.... but Hardcover treatment for the books is unexpected. Another winner for Team Paizo.

    Liberty's Edge

    Paizo Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber; Pathfinder Tales Subscriber; Starfinder Charter Superscriber
    Tharen the Damned wrote:
    Dragnmoon wrote:
    Am I the only one that does not Like Monte Cook's Products?....:-)

    Was that a confession? -hefts his torch and pitchfork expectantly-

    Yes... BRING IT ON!!!

    Scarab Sages

    This just in: Dragnmoon dislikes 3rd Edition!

    Liberty's Edge

    Any chance Paizo can get autographed copies, since Monte has that special relationship with you guys...? Pretty please.

    Liberty's Edge

    Paizo Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber; Pathfinder Tales Subscriber; Starfinder Charter Superscriber
    Jal Dorak wrote:
    This just in: Dragnmoon dislikes 3rd Edition!

    I Hated 2nd.. Thought 3.0 was an improvement.. Loved 3.5.. Have not tested 4th yet to say..

    I just don't like what Monte has added in his own 3rd party print.

    Liberty's Edge

    Pathfinder Maps Subscriber

    Fantastic news!

    -DM Jeff

    Dark Archive

    Dragnmoon wrote:
    Tharen the Damned wrote:
    Dragnmoon wrote:
    Am I the only one that does not Like Monte Cook's Products?....:-)

    Was that a confession? -hefts his torch and pitchfork expectantly-

    Yes... BRING IT ON!!!

    Purge the Unclean!

    -starts poking Dragonmoon with the pitchfork-

    Grand Lodge

    Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber; Pathfinder Card Game Subscriber; Pathfinder Comics Subscriber

    Will it be unchanged from the original offering? I think it will be nice to have a second copy for use around the table, whenever I get the chance to play with these rules.


    Pathfinder Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules, Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber; Pathfinder Comics Subscriber

    These were two great PDFs I will definantly be preordering this

    Liberty's Edge

    Dragnmoon wrote:
    Am I the only one that does not Like Monte Cook's Products?....:-)

    yes

    heretic :P

    Dragnmoon wrote:
    Jal Dorak wrote:
    This just in: Dragnmoon dislikes 3rd Edition!

    I Hated 2nd.. Thought 3.0 was an improvement.. Loved 3.5.. Have not tested 4th yet to say..

    I just don't like what Monte has added in his own 3rd party print.

    GAH!!!!!!!!!!!

    an heretic in every sense of the word... ok bring the fire, we will do it the old fashioned way

    mmm damn Ioemdae prohibits me from first tortruing you, also its unecesary you already said your admited your heretic views... we just need to burn you in the stake... or do you prefer Vlad's threatment? we are very acommodating folk :D


    Not quite willing to commit to a preorder but I wish there were a Wishlist feature. I'd definitely put it on there. (I tend to use Wishlists for my own use to track things I want, not for gift-giving/gift-suggesting purposes.)

    Paizo Employee CEO

    Andrew Turner wrote:
    Any chance Paizo can get autographed copies, since Monte has that special relationship with you guys...? Pretty please.

    No way to get autographs. Sorry. Monte now lives in Wisconsin while we are out here in Seattle. :/

    -Lisa

    Paizo Employee CEO

    Wolf Munroe wrote:
    Not quite willing to commit to a preorder but I wish there were a Wishlist feature. I'd definitely put it on there. (I tend to use Wishlists for my own use to track things I want, not for gift-giving/gift-suggesting purposes.)

    I believe Gary will be working on finishing up wishlists within the next few days, so you should get your...er...wish soon. :)

    -Lisa


    Pathfinder Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules, Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber; Pathfinder Comics Subscriber
    Lisa Stevens wrote:
    Andrew Turner wrote:
    Any chance Paizo can get autographed copies, since Monte has that special relationship with you guys...? Pretty please.

    No way to get autographs. Sorry. Monte now lives in Wisconsin while we are out here in Seattle. :/

    -Lisa

    What if I dont mind mine being late can we get autographs then LOL


    Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Campaign Setting, Card Game, Companion, Modules, Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Tales Subscriber; Pathfinder Comics Subscriber

    Awesome!

    Sovereign Court Wayfinder, PaizoCon Founder

    I am SO happy that I put off buying BoXM stuff!

    Have I told you lately how much I love you, Paizo?

    ;-)

    Contributor

    TriOmegaZero wrote:
    Will it be unchanged from the original offering? I think it will be nice to have a second copy for use around the table, whenever I get the chance to play with these rules.

    Other than taking out references like "If you have the other book" from the manuscript, TCBOXM contains all the material from the two BOXM. In some cases I consolidated chapters (for example, all the feats are in one chapter, rather than the BOXM1 feats as one chapter and BOXM2 feats as another chapter) but all the content is there.

    Grand Lodge

    Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber; Pathfinder Card Game Subscriber; Pathfinder Comics Subscriber

    Thanks Sean. I'll definately be picking this up to go with my Lulu printings.

    Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

    Mr Baron wrote:
    how will this align with Pathfinder RPG?

    It's as compatible as any other 3.5 product.


    Vic Wertz wrote:
    Mr Baron wrote:
    how will this align with Pathfinder RPG?
    It's as compatible as any other 3.5 product.

    It is a book of optional rules. Some can be used with out to much work (namely the feats). Other changes (the spell system for example) are a complete rewrite of the original 3.5 rules. Even with the changes to 3.5 that Pathfinder is making, most of them will still work with minimal trouble.

    All in all, I found the books to be pretty good.

    Liberty's Edge

    excellent! *in a very Monty Burns tone* Vic and Sean... excellent

    Sovereign Court

    I am thrilled beyond belief. This compilation of substantive content is exactly the type of thing our 3.5/PRPG community needs to keep the game alive. Monte Cook, y'all. Huzzah!

    3.5 Never Dies

    Sovereign Court

    Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Campaign Setting, Cards, Companion, Modules, Pawns, Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

    I've had the PDFs since the day they were released and I'm absolutely thrilled a book is on it's way!

    Sovereign Court

    And now, will Paizo reprint Ptolus? Possibly updated for PFRPG?

    Sovereign Court RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8

    I second Bagpuss,

    I've all the BoM/BoL books (Ironborn are OGL, take that Warforged!) but only the BoAM in hardcover, the others are in PDF/Staples printing.

    and I missed the yummyness of Ptolus.

    Liberty's Edge

    Bagpuss wrote:
    And now, will Paizo reprint Ptolus? Possibly updated for PFRPG?

    I am gonna sound like a total fanboy when I say this, but I might actually re-purchase the book if it was reprinted for PFRPG. I think there would need to be other details, but overall I would be interested.

    I beat my old copy to hell and back running a two year campaign.


    I'm in

    Sovereign Court

    This is going to ROCK!
    Now, if we could have had a pre-Christmas release.... my wife could have bought it for me!! Ties again this year I guess....


    Sartin Nevets wrote:

    This is going to ROCK!

    Now, if we could have had a pre-Christmas release.... my wife could have bought it for me!! Ties again this year I guess....

    now it can be a Valentines' Day gift

    Scarab Sages

    This is a 100% must have.


    Not sure if this is the place to ask this, but how does this level 1 - 20 magic system work? I have seen this suggested on other forums, but never got an explanation.

    "Anyone? Anyone? Beuller?"

    Grand Lodge

    Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber; Pathfinder Card Game Subscriber; Pathfinder Comics Subscriber

    It basically splits each level of spells into two sets and assigns them to each level. So if you're a 15th level caster, you can cast up to 15th level spells.

    Dark Archive

    Matthew Morris wrote:

    I second Bagpuss,

    I've all the BoM/BoL books (Ironborn are OGL, take that Warforged!) but only the BoAM in hardcover, the others are in PDF/Staples printing.

    and I missed the yummyness of Ptolus.

    BoM, BoL, BoAM?

    Liberty's Edge

    Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Comics Subscriber; Pathfinder Modules Subscriber

    A dream come ture!
    Preordering it now.

    Now, if Monte juts would come back to design more RPG stuff, especially Modules and more Ptolus stuff...

    Liberty's Edge

    Pathfinder Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

    The only thing more exciting than this book is the possibility of more Malhavoc/Paizo teamups to come. (I know, I know. Monte says maybe, but I can hope!)

    Contributor

    Dryder wrote:

    A dream come ture!

    Preordering it now.

    Now, if Monte juts would come back to design more RPG stuff, especially Modules and more Ptolus stuff...

    You might wanna read this, then.

    :)

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