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Combat Tiers Family Pack

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Combat Tiers bring a new dimension to tabletop gaming scenarios where height and distance are needed. Eliminating guesswork, Combat Tiers place any size miniatures at the exact height and distance needed to determine where combatants are during your battle scenarios.

Made from durable acrylic, Combat Tiers are designed to easily engage your gaming experience. The transparent material will not obscure the gaming environment. Multi-tier possibilities allow you to create various heights, while the large staging platforms allow the players to place multiple figures in simulated flight or combat, keeping everything sturdy and precise. Combat Tiers are gauged in one inch increments both on the prominent staging platforms and on the supporting columns, so ranges can be easily determined at a glance. With additional extensions, your figures can soar to even higher heights. No longer are ranges reduced to estimations—know exactly how the battle unfolds!

Combat Tiers can simulate many environments—use them to gauge underwater and space environments in addition to flight. For military enthusiasts, planes come alive during raids and strafing runs, and ships and submarines enjoy a new level of silent running as altitudes and depths take on a whole new gaming dimension.

Combat Tiers truly invigorate all your combat gaming situations.

    The Combat Tiers Family Pack consists of:
  • four 4" X 4" grid platforms
  • two 5" X 5" grid bases
  • five 2" extension posts
  • five 4" extension posts

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Qadira RPG Superstar 2008 Top 6, Contributor

I so need some of these. Drool! Been using clear acrylic cylinders for a while, but these look much cooler.


The druid PC in my Rise of the Runelords campaign makes liberal use of an OGL book called Cloud Warriors, and all the wonderful flying spells therein.

These things could make my gaming life soooo much easier. Time to talk to the group and see if we want to invest in these! :)

Your Friendly Neighborhood Dalesman
"Bringing Big D**n Justice to the Bad Guys Since 1369 DR"


Pathfinder Comics Subscriber; Pathfinder Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules, Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Yeah when I get some extra money I will be buying these for sure


Has anyone bought/seen/used these yet?

I am curious at how stable they are. From the photos and description, I cannot tell what the base is, and how big the base is. In the picture they have a bunch of minis piled on top of a high platform, what what is holding it all up?

If anyone can answers these questions, I would certainly be interested in this product.

Taldor

SuperBeast wrote:

Has anyone bought/seen/used these yet?

I am curious at how stable they are. From the photos and description, I cannot tell what the base is, and how big the base is. In the picture they have a bunch of minis piled on top of a high platform, what what is holding it all up?

If anyone can answers these questions, I would certainly be interested in this product.

Better pics here.


Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

Am I being a bit dim here or can you only fly at even heights using this accessory? All of the packs only seem to come with multiples of 2" & 4" posts.

Otherwise this looks like an excelent product.


Bagpuss wrote:


Better pics here.

Awesome, thanks!

Have you used them? It seems to me there might be a problem with flying characters moving around the map in combat, with the base being a 5"x5" square. Since the base would have to move through the middle of everything and force a lot of pick-up and replace of minis on the "ground" map.

Taldor

That's the gargantuan black dragon mini in the photo so they must be pretty stable to support him. I doubt they'll support the collosal red though.

Taldor

SuperBeast wrote:


Have you used them? It seems to me there might be a problem with flying characters moving around the map in combat, with the base being a 5"x5" square. Since the base would have to move through the middle of everything and force a lot of pick-up and replace of minis on the "ground" map.

I haven't used them, no. I was wondering about the same thing, although I guess that as long as the battlefield isn't too crowded, it should be OK (it wouldn't be much fun if you were running a skirmish, though).

Taldor

lastknightleft wrote:
That's the gargantuan black dragon mini in the photo so they must be pretty stable to support him. I doubt they'll support the collosal red though.

I suspect you are right.

I do love my colossal red. I just wish they'd gone on to make the Green Dragon (or even Orcus, that was supposed to replace the Green).

Andoran

Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Have they discontinued them? I really wanted a Tarrasque.

Taldor

TriOmegaZero wrote:
Have they discontinued them? I really wanted a Tarrasque.

Gargantuan Green was bumped for Gargantuan Orcus, that got canned. So, no idea if they're going to do any more (recent shake-ups in the D&D minis might make a difference, I guess).

Andoran

Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Comics Subscriber; Pathfinder Maps, Modules, Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Purchased. Wow, that was quick. I'm so tired of using poorly stacked old dice boxes and having minis fall with the greatest of ease. Brilliant.

-DM Jeff

Owners: Jason Weymouth & Julian Rodriguez - Emerald Knights Comics and Games

Hey All,

Thanks for the interest in the product! I made them almost a year ago for my own campaign use, got tired of having my painted miniatures falling off of water bottles and such and getting nicked and dented.

The players in my group kept telling me. "Dude, you have filled a niche" let's get them into the gaming world. After a lot of toil, finding a manufacture - patent stuff - legal stuff - here they are for you to enjoy and use.

The base platforms are five by five, wide and sturdy. We've had them as high a one hundred feet (in game terms not actual) and they are still stable. The other tiers are four by four and can hold all manner of minis, plastic or metal. The gargantuan black dragon was easily supported.

I hope those of you that purchase them truly enjoy them, for our group we no longer dread when friends or foes take to the air and we "know" easily who or what is "out of range" and all other manner of height and distance are no longer guesswork.

Please let me know how you like them or if you don’t. Forward your own experiences with them, how they can be improved (we have some more ideas), is their a need for a hex grid?

Thanks for looking and I hope you have as much fun with them as we have had.

J.
Tinkered Tactics, LLC

Osirion

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Jester King wrote:

Hey All,

Alright! You and the Pathfinder Advantage discount has convinced me.


The Dalesman wrote:

The druid PC in my Rise of the Runelords campaign makes liberal use of an OGL book called Cloud Warriors, and all the wonderful flying spells therein.

These things could make my gaming life soooo much easier. Time to talk to the group and see if we want to invest in these! :)

Your Friendly Neighborhood Dalesman
"Bringing Big D**n Justice to the Bad Guys Since 1369 DR"

And it looks like the answer is 'yes' - ordering away!

Your Friendly Neighborhood Dalesman
"Bringing Big D**n Justice to the Bad Guys Since 1369 DR"


Pathfinder Comics Subscriber; Pathfinder Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules, Roleplaying Game Subscriber
Jester King wrote:


Please let me know how you like them or if you don’t. Forward your own experiences with them, how they can be improved (we have some more ideas), is their a need for a hex grid?

J.
Tinkered Tactics, LLC

What about 1 inch increments cause right now you have to fly in 20ft increments?

Owners: Jason Weymouth & Julian Rodriguez - Emerald Knights Comics and Games

What about 1 inch increments cause right now you have to fly in 20ft increments?

Look at the extension kits.

The four inch extension corresponds to 20 feet, and each of the two inch one equate to ten feet. If you want to simulate 20 feet of flight movement those will do the trick!

Andoran

::jaw drops::

Me want! Me want! Me want! Gimmie!


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Jester King wrote:
What about 1 inch increments cause right now you have to fly in 20ft increments?

Look at the extension kits.

The four inch extension corresponds to 20 feet, and each of the two inch one equate to ten feet. If you want to simulate 20 feet of flight movement those will do the trick!

Oh I miss read I though there were 2 inch not 1 inch pieces


Joey Virtue wrote:
Oh I miss read I though there were 2 inch not 1 inch pieces

As far as I can tell, they are 2 inch pieces. 2 inches should be equivalent to 10 feet, not 20 feet, right? (At a scale of 1 inch = 5 feet anyway.)

So by that logic you would still need 1 inch pieces to represent a five foot increment.

Owners: Jason Weymouth & Julian Rodriguez - Emerald Knights Comics and Games

In my experience, I have found most gaming scenarios to occur in ten foot equivalent measures, mostly 20 feet, 30 feet and 60 feet - those are the distances we wanted to emulate the most. Combat Tiers simulate those and more, from 10 feet to 120 feet and more.

Of course, if we hear that a one inch extension for a five foot boost is desired we will definitely entertain such requests and see what the manufacture can do. Just let us know!

Again thanks for the interest in the product.


I don't have the product yet (still shipping), just trying to clarify for the guy who asked that it was a 2 inch piece but would be 10 feet, not 20 feet. Not sure on the need for a 1 inch piece myself.

Looking forward to receiving these. My players are currently in a module where they're going to be attacked by a flying large black dragon if they live that long. (Not to mention a number of incorporeal things along the way.) It will be their first dragon as they're all newer players. I think the combat tiers will really help with the scope of it.

Andoran

Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

In any event, the heights are not static. Nothing prevents you from changing the distance, from 5 to 50 ft. It's just nice to have them to scale. Perhaps you add some sort of swappable signs to note what height each are?


Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber

Great product, I'm very much looking forward to this.


I just received them and the look very well made. I don't think there will be any problem with them falling over. all set up they look really cool.

Owners: Jason Weymouth & Julian Rodriguez - Emerald Knights Comics and Games

Glad you like them! We strived to make them sturdy and solid and capable of really getting a sense of varied heights.

Thanks for purchasing them and I hope you enjoy them in your campaigns for many years to come.

J.
Tinkered Tactics


evad dnomhcir wrote:
I just received them and the look very well made. I don't think there will be any problem with them falling over. all set up they look really cool.

Got mine as well and I agree. They seem quite sturdy. I'm probably not going to get to use them in play for a few sessions but I'm looking forward to it.


I received mine on Saturday, and was impressed with both the product and the packaging. The pieces are solid, the plastic is a good thickness, and all of them fit snugly together.

Good stuff - thanks to J. and the rest of the gang at Tinkered Tactics for a quality game aid. I can't wait to use these! :)

Your Friendly Neighborhood Dalesman
"Bringing Big D**n Justice to the Bad Guys Since 1369 DR"

Owners: Jason Weymouth & Julian Rodriguez - Emerald Knights Comics and Games

More praise, wonderful stuff- thank you all. We have more en route to our Paizo friends as we have hit a backorder status. Thanks all for the interest in the product; we truly worked hard to make a quality product. It is very satisfying to see something come to fruition and to really offer something to our fellow gamers that we know helps us all get the most enjoyment out of our mutual favorite hobby.

My group will gather for our next session this upcoming Saturday, and are in the midst of Fortress of the Stone Giants. I foresee Combat Tiers supporting a host of airborne villains and have them ready and waiting. I won’t mention who or what, as my group view these threads as often as I do!


Arrrghhhh!!! Back order already? I hesitated too long... does anyone at Paizo know how long it will take to get more of these in stock? Any chance they will be available before Xmas?

Thanks in advance for your time and assistance...

Andoran

Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Comics Subscriber; Pathfinder Maps, Modules, Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Paizo was quite quick shipping mine out east here. Right away my wife and I made two tiers as tall as they each would go and placed a huge white dragon on one and a group of dragonslayers on the other. It was completely sturdy. Best of all, we didn't have the old 'shaking hands' syndrome thinking one small imperfection would break the ice and cause it all to come tumbling down. Super stuff.

-DM Jeff

Owners: Jason Weymouth & Julian Rodriguez - Emerald Knights Comics and Games

TwiceBorn wrote:

Arrrghhhh!!! Back order already? I hesitated too long... does anyone at Paizo know how long it will take to get more of these in stock? Any chance they will be available before Xmas?

Thanks in advance for your time and assistance...

Absolutely, we here at Tinkered Tactics have another shipment ready and en route to Paizo and they should be there by next week. So do not delay and order yours today.

Thanks DM Jeff for the positive review and we are thrilled you found them a great gaming product!

J.

RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

Thanks for the pic link, Bagpuss... I know what I'm getting for Christmas now (drool...)

Assuming, of course, there are some available by Christmas.

When will these be available again?

Edit: Fhtagn! I should read the whole discussion before posting. So, by next week you say, Jester King? I will definitely be ordering some (rubs hands).

Have you considered adding a winding staircase accessory? I don't know if it would be possible, but I am picturing a really dramatic entrance to a dungeon I'm running, where the first chamber is a good 100 feet straight up, with a staircase hewn into the stone wall...

the possibilities are endless... LOL

M

Taldor

Pre-ordered.

Happy Christmas to me.

Owners: Jason Weymouth & Julian Rodriguez - Emerald Knights Comics and Games

We here at Tinkered Tactics have a whole slew of ideas and products that we hope to unleash in 2009, and I do thank you for your suggestion – it shall be discussed! More Family Packs have been shipped to our good friends at Paizo and all back orders will be fulfilled very shortly. We sent them plenty more - so if you want them – order away.
They also make just the right Christmas gift for the fellow DM gamer or for your own gaming tables.

Thanks as always for looking,

J.
Tinkered Tactics

Bagpuss, thank you very much for kindly linking our website.

Taldor

And they are on their way to me! Sweet!

Now I just have to work out what to get myself for my actual Christmas present.

Also, count me as interested in 5' extensions.


Pathfinder Comics Subscriber; Pathfinder Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules, Roleplaying Game Subscriber

I have some money to buy these

I have some extra money enought to either buy an addional combat tiers basic set or 2 2 inch extentions and 2 4 inch extentions which one should i buy


Joey Virtue wrote:

I have some money to buy these

I have some extra money enought to either buy an addional combat tiers basic set or 2 2 inch extentions and 2 4 inch extentions which one should i buy

Save up and get a second Family Pack if you need more than one. It's more economical than buying the basic pack. (You would have to pay shipping twice if you wait to order it though.)

Of course you won't want to wait for that option and have them go on backorder again.


I put the Family Pack in my shopping cart as soon as I saw this. My group is high level at this point, so the flying is rampant. Representing flying by sitting a mini on a plastic dice box and trying to remember the actual altitude is distracting at best.

We also put the dice box, which is transparent plastic, over a mini (with the mini inside it) to represent invisibility. This actually works fairly well. Given that players will be dealing with medium-sized minis most of the time, maybe a set of medium-sized plastic covers would be a good idea. Different tints for different conditions (invisible, hiding, gaseous, ethereal, astral, etc.). I know there are colored chips that you can stand minis on, but this would be easier to see / distinguish at our large gaming table.

Just a thought, and thanks for making the game better.

Cheliax

True, they look good and will come to good uses in any campaign. But come on guys and galls, how often does one need these things that one has to pay 50 bucks for?

True, in every other encounter, either a PC or a NPC of some kind will take to the air. And its also true that minis tend to fall of bottles, Dice, or what ever you might think of to simulate flight. Not that often, and if it does, the scene usually lasts only for a few rounds.

I for my part don't think that I need that many of those combat tiers that justifies an investment of 50$. But its not so much the price in comparison with how often I have need to use the tiers. What really made up my decision not to buy them is that one already has to struggle in order to pack up alle the gear that is needed to play: Tons of books, a case of minis, CDs for background music, scripts, charts, pencils, markers, paper, Combat maps, tiles, Critical Hit and Fumble decks, magic Item Cards along with snacks and drinks.

I would go along for one or two small tiers, big enough for a single medium sized mini, but thats all.


Pathfinder Comics Subscriber; Pathfinder Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules, Roleplaying Game Subscriber
Wolf Munroe wrote:


Save up and get a second Family Pack if you need more than one. It's more economical than buying the basic pack. (You would have to pay shipping twice if you wait to order it though.)

Of course you won't want to wait for that option and have them go on backorder again.

The whole thing is I have a x mas present on here that costs ten to ship so if I get the family pack it runs my at 90 dollars with shipping Paizo pays for 10 dollars of shipping at over 100 dollars I can get like a 25 dollar item for like 10 bucks just trying to figure which would help more

Owners: Jason Weymouth & Julian Rodriguez - Emerald Knights Comics and Games

The Family Pack is of course the better economic buy, and the multiple Combat Tiers really do come in handy when you have multiple ongoing aerial scenarios. I put mine in my mini's case, as I also haul quite a bit of gear to my gaming location - they are lightweight and can be disassembled to fit snugly into most carry cases and boxes.

Paizo just received another bulk order of Family Packs and we should have plenty there for December and Christmas time. Should we sell those out fairly soon, we have stock to keep them supplied.

The idea of transparent and colored cubes is one of the ideas we will introduce in various sizes medium-sized, large-sized and so on, hopefully in 2009. The Combat Tier is our first baby, but we hope to have a large family of products.

As always, thanks all for trying our product and as fellow gamers ourselves - we here at Tinkered Tactics have a desire to make our mutual favored hobby a little bit more fun and easier to game.

Many thanks!

J.


Jester King,

Excellent product and definately look forward to your 2009 releases. My suggestions are:

1/ a 5' increment cube would be excellent
2/ A "1 inch sq capping cube" would be great for those lone levitating mages. Using thsi would not even need a base!
3/ A say "2 or 3 inch sq capping cube" would be great for those levitating munchies. Maybe a similar size base would keep this stable without intruding too much on the battlemat (or fit in the Dwarven Forge room)

Cheers


Jester King wrote:

In my experience, I have found most gaming scenarios to occur in ten foot equivalent measures, mostly 20 feet, 30 feet and 60 feet - those are the distances we wanted to emulate the most. Combat Tiers simulate those and more, from 10 feet to 120 feet and more.

Of course, if we hear that a one inch extension for a five foot boost is desired we will definitely entertain such requests and see what the manufacture can do. Just let us know!

Again thanks for the interest in the product.

I just ordered the Family Pack and 4" extension pack, so I'm very much looking forward to using these in our next game (where I've written an encounter to specifically use these!).

I would like to put in a vote for 1" extensions. Perhaps they'll never be used, but I would prefer to have the option to represent 25' available.

Thanks!


Pathfinder Comics Subscriber; Pathfinder Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules, Roleplaying Game Subscriber

I recieved all mine yesterday

And they are great I have not began to test out how big or how high I can take them and not topple over with miniatures on them.

I think an 8 inch exstention would be great because that would put you right at 50ft with one piece.

For some of you that have used them have you created a differnt scale for each inch instead of 5ft?

Taldor

This is on my Christmas list. I can't wait for Christmas. Christmas this year means aerial combat!!!

Owners: Jason Weymouth & Julian Rodriguez - Emerald Knights Comics and Games

I spoke with our manufacturer and hopefully we can make a 5' (one-inch) extension without too much effort. I will keep all updated as I also learn the progress and details.

As always, thanks for trying them out and I am overjoyed that they meet and exceed your gaming expectations.

Merry Christmas from all us here at Tinkered Tactics and we hope the New Year is filled with blessings and a lot of fun gaming for you and yours.

J.


I am thinking of buying this - I love the idea. However, all I see are 2" and 4" extensions. How does the product deal with odd numbered heights? If I can't get the platform to exactly 5" seems like a waste.

Any input would be appreciated!


Pathfinder Comics Subscriber; Pathfinder Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules, Roleplaying Game Subscriber

This is a great product I think they will be releaseing a 1 inch piece soon but really how many things are 5 feet off the ground?

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