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Pathfinder #7—Curse of the Crimson Throne Chapter 1: "Edge of Anarchy" (OGL)

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Chapter 1: "Edge of Anarchy"
by Nicolas Logue

The King has died, and the city of Korvosa is in chaos! Riots, banditry, monsters, and mayhem are turning the normally safe streets of the city into a war zone. Desperate to regain control of her city, Queen Ileosa seeks heroes to aid her in reclaiming control before the largest city in all Varisia consumes itself from within, as Pathfinder’s second Adventure Path, Curse of the Crimson Throne, begins with a bang!

This volume of Pathfinder includes a GM’s gazetteer of the city of Korvosa, designed to supplement the player-oriented Pathfinder Chronicles Guide to Korvosa, along with a presentation on the mystical culture of the land’s indigenous Varisians and several new monsters designed for use in urban environs. Your new campaign starts right here!

For characters of 1st to 4th level.

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Is the all-in-one PDF missing the Prologue page? My copy has page 6 immediately following the Table of Contents, but the TOC says the prologue should be on page 4.

RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

What happened to the PDF files sizes? I have plenty of disk space, but the CotCT pdfs are 4 times the size of the RotRL ones. Is the art that much better?

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Steven Cole wrote:

Is the all-in-one PDF missing the Prologue page? My copy has page 6 immediately following the Table of Contents, but the TOC says the prologue should be on page 4.

Thanks for letting us know... I'm working on it...

Qadira

Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Modules, Tales Subscriber

Kudos on the "Visit Beautiful Kordosa" ad. Srsly awesome.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

We have updated the PDF of Pathfinder #7—Curse of the Crimson Throne Chapter 1: "Edge of Anarchy." The Foreword now appears in the single-file download, file sizes have been greatly optimized, and bookmarks have been improved.

Authorized users can download the updated version for free at https://secure.paizo.com/paizo/account/assets. (If the file shows that it has already been personalized, you'll need to repersonalize it before you can download the corrected version.)


janxious wrote:
Kudos on the "Visit Beautiful Kordosa" ad. Srsly awesome.

Thanks! I always appreciate feedback on our marketing efforts.

RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

Vic Wertz wrote:

We have updated the PDF of Pathfinder #7—Curse of the Crimson Throne Chapter 1: "Edge of Anarchy." The Foreword now appears in the single-file download, file sizes have been greatly optimized, and bookmarks have been improved.

Authorized users can download the updated version for free at https://secure.paizo.com/paizo/account/assets. (If the file shows that it has already been personalized, you'll need to repersonalize it before you can download the corrected version.)

Thanks, Vic!

RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

This month's Pathfinder's Journal was awesome. A really good in-world look at a barbarian's rage and fast movement.

Cheliax

Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber; Pathfinder Deluxe Comics Subscriber; Pathfinder Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules, Roleplaying Game, Tales Subscriber

Has it been shipped yet? Mainly cause I just got my sunscription 2 weeks ago and was wondering if and when this would ship with it.

Andoran

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber
Jeremy Mcgillan wrote:

Has it been shipped yet? Mainly cause I just got my sunscription 2 weeks ago and was wondering if and when this would ship with it.

Mine appears to be in the process of being fired by trebuchet at a passing UPS truck.

Spoiler:
Oh, wait, that was just copies of the WotC press releases about the GSL being available soon, and the UPS guy was just being used as a rangefinder... My stuff was already en route via a less violent method.


This is awesome, no better than awesome, it's like a squirrel salad sammich with pimentos!


Are you going to post the prospective levels each adventure will span for the new story arch as you did for "Rise of the Runelords?"

Andoran

Ok, stupid question time……

At what level does Curse of the Crimson Throne start? I was just wondering how the three different series fit together and if the party has to start over at the beginning of each adventure path. Do they all get tied together at the end?

Thanks

Paizo Employee Developer

jonas skinner wrote:

Ok, stupid question time……

At what level does Curse of the Crimson Throne start? I was just wondering how the three different series fit together and if the party has to start over at the beginning of each adventure path. Do they all get tied together at the end?

Thanks

All three start at level 1. It's tough to run three consecutive 15+ level campaigns, as the final path would be a party of gods fighting other gods. So far the first two paths tie together in that they both take place in Varisia, and there are a few Easter eggs that parties going through them in order will notice. Other than that, you could add in some common NPCs who have traveled to Korvosa, but there's nothing I've seen that ties them together directly.


I have just started running this module/campaign in 4th edition and was wondering, if anyone else had thought to do the same thing?

The alignment issue is one we have had to resolve, but otherwise it all seems reasonable. One thing that I am finding is that all of the Paizo modules are based on smallish, one might even say cramped, maps, which makes the much more versatile 4th ed combat a little hard to take advantage of.

Still, cramped is cramped and the players will adapt, I am certain.

Is there a thread anywhere, where people are helpign with these 4th edition conversions? it would be great to have some unofficial assistance with this, so the very worthy Paizo modules can be played in the new rule system.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

scytale2 wrote:
Is there a thread anywhere, where people are helpign with these 4th edition conversions? it would be great to have some unofficial assistance with this, so the very worthy Paizo modules can be played in the new rule system.

Try this thread!


What is the appropriate number of players for this adventure?


Glenn Rotton wrote:
What is the appropriate number of players for this adventure?

Welcome to the messageboards!

I believe that the assumed number of players for all of the Pathfinder Adventure Paths and Modules is 4, although it should be easy enough to adjust up and down.


Only one complaint about the setting of Korvosa;

The Imp vs Psudodragon thing plays a serious background/lore role in the city (fortunately not in the campaign itself).

BUT, In such a conflict, the Imps will always triumph. Fast healing, DR 5, and immunity to poison means that a hundred Psudodragons couldn't hope to take out a single Imp. This makes one of the random encounters useless unless you are feeling really cruel to your PCs, fortunately that is the only "real" spot in the campaign where this comes up.

Osirion

Gneeker wrote:

Only one complaint about the setting of Korvosa;

The Imp vs Psudodragon thing plays a serious background/lore role in the city (fortunately not in the campaign itself).

BUT, In such a conflict, the Imps will always triumph. Fast healing, DR 5, and immunity to poison means that a hundred Psudodragons couldn't hope to take out a single Imp. This makes one of the random encounters useless unless you are feeling really cruel to your PCs, fortunately that is the only "real" spot in the campaign where this comes up.

See here for an easy solution.


Ungoded wrote:


See here for an easy solution.

Nice, thank you for pointing that out, guess I'll be able to use that encounter after all :)


I really like this module. But there´s one thing I don´t like that much:

Spoiler:
When the PCs come out of the Old Fishery, the city has completely gone mad. And the only reason for this is that a young queen most people don´t like sits on the throne now. Wow... when looking into history, there were a lot of young monarchs. Reason enough for a riot and the collapse of the economic system? I don´t think so. After all, the people don´t know anything about the evil nature of Ileosa yet.

I wonder how I can make the setting more believable after the death of Eodred. You need the riots to get the plot into motion, that´s for sure...


My table has just embarked on CotCT! Our first session ended with the fishery and the cliffhanger was the city erupting into chaos. I have purchased the Guide to Korvosa. I have my Harrow Deck and Curse of the Crimson Throne Item Cards are on order. We all very excited and can not wait to play through this entire AP!

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Mitch Brock of Boston wrote:
My table has just embarked on CotCT! Our first session ended with the fishery and the cliffhanger was the city erupting into chaos. I have purchased the Guide to Korvosa. I have my Harrow Deck and Curse of the Crimson Throne Item Cards are on order. We all very excited and can not wait to play through this entire AP!

Hi Mitch! Glad you are enjoying Edge so far!

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Card Game Subscriber

Just wrapped this adventure last night (with a few loose ends).

My players had a great time. Thanks, Nick!

Unfortunately, I wasn't able to work that character into the final dungeon that you told me about at GenCon (DBD), too much squick factor for this group.

Starting "Seven Days" in a few weeks!

Contributor

Scribbling Rambler wrote:

Just wrapped this adventure last night (with a few loose ends).

My players had a great time. Thanks, Nick!

Unfortunately, I wasn't able to work that character into the final dungeon that you told me about at GenCon (DBD), too much squick factor for this group.

Starting "Seven Days" in a few weeks!

Awwwww...that's okay. Someday, someday, Donkey Baby Daddy will ride again.

:-)

RPG Superstar 2011 Top 32

Nicolas Logue wrote:
Scribbling Rambler wrote:

Just wrapped this adventure last night (with a few loose ends).

My players had a great time. Thanks, Nick!

Unfortunately, I wasn't able to work that character into the final dungeon that you told me about at GenCon (DBD), too much squick factor for this group.

Starting "Seven Days" in a few weeks!

Awwwww...that's okay. Someday, someday, Donkey Baby Daddy will ride again.

:-)

::blink:: Unfortunately my group is already past this ... but I wanna know what the hey you are talking about LOL

Contributor

Gamer Girrl wrote:
Nicolas Logue wrote:
Scribbling Rambler wrote:

Just wrapped this adventure last night (with a few loose ends).

My players had a great time. Thanks, Nick!

Unfortunately, I wasn't able to work that character into the final dungeon that you told me about at GenCon (DBD), too much squick factor for this group.

Starting "Seven Days" in a few weeks!

Awwwww...that's okay. Someday, someday, Donkey Baby Daddy will ride again.

:-)

::blink:: Unfortunately my group is already past this ... but I wanna know what the hey you are talking about LOL

I can't post it here - it would get me banned. :-(


Pathfinder Adventure Path, Card Game Subscriber

Question - what # of adventurers are the APs designed for? I've got a group that fluctuates between 4-7, depending on the availability of my gaming group. Any suggestions how I could scale the AP upwards?

BTW - love the plot and storyline and everything else about this adventure path. We are running the PFRPG for the first time with my group (all 3.5 devotees) and we are having great success - keep up the great work!

Paizo Employee Creative Director

Alexander Rosenwald wrote:

Question - what # of adventurers are the APs designed for? I've got a group that fluctuates between 4-7, depending on the availability of my gaming group. Any suggestions how I could scale the AP upwards?

BTW - love the plot and storyline and everything else about this adventure path. We are running the PFRPG for the first time with my group (all 3.5 devotees) and we are having great success - keep up the great work!

We assume 4 players for all the adventures we do—that's the assumption for the baseline in 3.5, and it's an assumption we kept for Pathfinder.

Things should work well with 5 or 3 players, but once you get up to 7, you'll want to add more monsters to your combats and more treasure to your adventures. Take care trying to "up the danger" by adding more POWERFUL monsters though... just because you have more players than expected doesn't mean that any one of them is gonna be more powerful than expected, and when you add more powerful monsters than their level expects them to face, you start getting dead PCs more often. The overall battles might work, but only because your group's losing 2 or 3 PCs per battle. That starts to get old real quick... especially if you have to use all your treasure to raise dead or if your players start just making new characters every week...


I have two quick questions on this module:

1. How precisely does on get from the top level of the Fishery to the lower level? It's not really clear to me. The door attached to the boat at the back is said to be unknown by the patrons.

But the text also claims the alchemist/book keeper will flee to that level if his morale fails, but how precisely does he get to it?

2. Am I right that none of the NPCs would lead a party to the lower level, no matter how skillful the diplomacy? Gaedren's location seems isolated and inaccessible for a reason. I ask because my party seems pretty keen to get to Gaedren without a fight, but I don't easily see a way they can do that.

Thanks in advance, I know I am posting on an ancient product, but if there is anyone who might know the answer to these two questions I'd be obliged.

Paizo Employee Creative Director

DofC wrote:

I have two quick questions on this module:

1. How precisely does on get from the top level of the Fishery to the lower level? It's not really clear to me. The door attached to the boat at the back is said to be unknown by the patrons.

But the text also claims the alchemist/book keeper will flee to that level if his morale fails, but how precisely does he get to it?

2. Am I right that none of the NPCs would lead a party to the lower level, no matter how skillful the diplomacy? Gaedren's location seems isolated and inaccessible for a reason. I ask because my party seems pretty keen to get to Gaedren without a fight, but I don't easily see a way they can do that.

Thanks in advance, I know I am posting on an ancient product, but if there is anyone who might know the answer to these two questions I'd be obliged.

No worries about posting on old products! We'll get to them eventually!

1) There's a rickety walkway that runs along the south side of the building—this is area A3. That walkway can be accessed by the door in area A6. The walkway itself leads around the back of the fishery to the old boat (areas A9-A11). You can climb down the stairs in area A10 to the boat's hold in area A11, and there's a secret door in the hull that leads to the lower walkway, area A12. Note that the upper walkway (area A3) is higher than the lower one (A12), and that the lower one is mostly located UNDER the main building, which stands on pilings above the water level. Following the lower walkway (A12) leads you to the lower section of the building. You can also get into the lower section by simply wading or swimming through the water and up into the open area in A13, even though there's sharks and gators. Alternatively, you can jump into the hole in the floor in area A8; that drops into the water next to the walkway at area A12.

When the alchemist flees, he does so by ducking through the door in area A6 and running along A3 to the boat back in area A9/A10, where he can drop down the side of the boat and onto the walkway without sneaking though the spider infested hold.

2) Gaedren IS squirreled away, and the fact that his actual den is hidden can certainly make diplomacy a difficult task. I would probably have the PCs, if they can convince the locals to guide them, be led to the spider infested ship if the thugs are secretly trying to harm them still, or barring that, lower them down through the hole in area A8 to the walkway below.


This is my first Pathfinder Adventure path, and though the rave reviews are obviously long in, I want to throw in my two cents because I'm running this in a different way:

1) I'm using the Pathfinder rules instead of 3.5. This has been easy, and that is saying something because I've never run Pathfinder before. Actually, I've never run 3.5 before either. I haven't run a game of any kind in about six years. I'm finding the experience to be pretty easy, aided by the fact that one of my players has more experience in the system.

2) Here is the really interesting part: I don't know any other RPG players. I'm a working professional in my mid-thirties, and I've only recently moved to my area. Since finding a gaming group would be problematic, I've decided to move my endeavors to a play-by-post format over on thetangledweb.com. I now have a group of five players who span four different countries and a 15 hour time difference. This creates what I've been calling the 24 hour game.

I have a PDF copy of EoA, and this has worked out great. I use top-down miniatures available for free online, and I just cut and paste the maps from the module into Photoshop, and paste in the character and NPC tokens. This works great, and doesn't require much in the way of Photoshop knowledge. I imagine that a program like GIMP would also work too. You just have to be able to resize and rotate images.

Someone in the reviews section talked about the players wanting to "leave the city like any reasonable person would." I have to completely disagree with this. The background materials for this adventure are outstanding, and if used as intended completely root the PCs in the city. They don't leave when the trouble starts, because they are fighting to defend their home.

Korvosa has so much color and flavor to it. All of us fell in love with the city immediately and I doubt I'm going to get any of the players wanting to leave it.

Kudos to the designers and their excellent work. I look forward to trying to complete this adventure path in a PbP format. I imagine that is going to take somewhere around a year in real time, so its a lot of entertainment for the dollar.


Is there any chance that a tailor-made conversion pdf or guide will be released for CotCT? I like the story but I have trouble running the game because either the conversion rules don't apply well or at all. Other encounters like the jigsaw shark have no basis for conversion as there are no comparable creatures and i don't want to buy the 3.5 monster manual for a few monsters. I just think it would be nice to release a book-by-book conversion guide to make running the game a little easier.


I can’t imagine Paizo’s going to do an ‘official’ one; their efforts are focused on future products.

If it’s just a matter of converting the monsters, a lot of them have been updated to PFRPG in the various bestiaries and are available through the PRD.

If you need stats for specific individuals like Gaedren Lamm or Verik Vancaskerkin, there are also fan-conversions available on-line at d20pfsrd.com - here is the one for this AP.


Paizo Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Deluxe Comics Subscriber

Just for your information, a jigsaw shark is acually a standard Bestiary shark with the young creature template. This information comes from the Inner Sea World Guide.

I'm currently running this AP with Pathfinder rules, and I have done a complete conversion for the first two adventures so far, so if you have any questions, feel free to ask. As an example, most NPCs need to be updated with one more class level, so their CRs remain the same, and so on.


Thanks to both Zaister and Trace for the help. You have no idea how bothersome it is when a particularly difficult encounter falls flat and the players just look at you like," Was that all?"


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So does anyone know if Curse of the Crimson Throne and the other OGL books are going to be reworked with the pathfinder rule set and not the 3.5?


Pathfinder Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Roleplaying Game, Tales Subscriber
Idward Evanhand wrote:
So does anyone know if Curse of the Crimson Throne and the other OGL books are going to be reworked with the pathfinder rule set and not the 3.5?

While I can't remember exactly where I saw it, and therefore can't get you a direct quote, I'm pretty sure I've seen Vic Wertz say multiple times that there are no plans to do this at any point in the near future.


Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Here is a recentish quote from Vic on the issue.

Vic Wertz wrote:

As many of you know, one of the biggest issues that lead to TSR's insolvency is the proliferation of campaign settings. When they were actively selling one or two or three campaign settings to their audience, a big chunk of their audience would buy any given book they were releasing. When they were actively selling seven or eight campaign settings, only a small fraction of the audience would buy any given release.

A similar problem exists with APs, as the typical gaming group plays only one at a time. Right now, a group looking for an AP might well rule out the 3.5 ones, and the ones that have volumes out of print, so that leaves them 7 APs to consider—or, assuming quality and appeal being similar among them, a 1 in 7 chance they'll buy the current product. If we updated the 3.5 ones, and reprinted the out-of-print volumes, the odd that they'd choose the current release drop to 1 in 12.

The simple fact is that we need to sell you what we're making more than we need to sell you what we've made, and allowing things to go out of print is therefore a necessity.

And when those out-of-print volumes go for big money on eBay, that's actually helpful in that it helps establish an upward trend for the future value of a present subscription, and underlines the fact that the best time to subscribe to our lines is "as soon as possible."

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