Level 20 After Con Game

I would like to run a 20th level Pathfinder game after Paizocon from 2-7pm on Sunday.

Description: Magic is being drained from the lands of Golarion. Items of power once infused with great magic have reverted to pale mundane shadows of their former power. Clerics continue to draw the power from their gods though the divine connections have become strained. Arcane casters have begun to feel a lessening in their control over words of power.
They can still wield mighty magics but no one knows for how long. Otherworldly storms raging with multicolored lightning are sweeping across Avistan and Garund, stirring the already growing fear. Can the cause of this calamity be discovered and reversed before all magic is drained from the world?

# of players - up to 6

Materials Use a 20 point build, single class – 20th level, with 10,000 gp in non-magical equipment and spell components.

I will have pregens but it would be best for players to come with a character already made up so they are familiar with the abundant feats and abilities of a 20th level character.

If you would like to join in or have any questions please post them here.

thanks
Kelly

Interested!

Also interested!

Just out of curiosity I'd love to see your pregens given that my chances of actually going are nonexistent short of a winning lottery ticket. :0

Just out of curiosity I'd love to see your pregens given that my chances of actually going are nonexistent short of a winning lottery ticket. :0

Lazar, my hope is to have the players come with characters already created so they understand how to play them, but I will have some pregens as well. The should be alot easier to make without having to mull over which magic items to get.

I can post them as we get closer.

As people join you all can start deciding which classes to be so that there is a moderately balanced party since the only healing will be from casters.

Thanks
Kelly

so If I am reading this right, you're having 20th level characters with no magic items and 10k of mundane goods?

so If I am reading this right, you're having 20th level characters with no magic items and 10k of mundane goods?

Lazar, that is correct, it will be a low magic game. The premise of the adventure is that magic is being drained from the world and it has stripped magic items of their power.

The reason for the limited funds will be explained in game. The players have "magic items" but they have been drained of the their power and are therefore useless.

Kelly

Also interested!

If this conflicts with the lower level game that Painlord is offering then I will play in Pain's game.

Eric Brittain wrote:

Also interested!

If this conflicts with the lower level game that Painlord is offering then I will play in Pain's game.

Eric, I believe that Painlord is running his game at the same time.

Kelly

Lazar, that is correct, it will be a low magic game.

What restrictions are there on spellcasters?

Gotrek22 wrote:

Lazar, that is correct, it will be a low magic game.

What restrictions are there on spellcasters?

There are no limitations,on spellcasters. The game will be low magic only in the sense of no magic items. Not wanting to give away the plot, there may be idiosyncrasies with casting depending on how play progress but nothing that will make casters unplayable or suboptimal. I dont want to deter anyone from playing a caster. They will actually be very important as spells will be the only way to heal and acquire magic weapons ie the spells Magic Weapon and Greater Magic Weapon and the their like.

Would you like to join us for the game. A chance to try out the 20th level class capstone abilities. The game will have a combination of roleplaying and combat depending on how the PCs want to play it.

thanks
Kelly

The game will be low magic only in the sense of no magic items... nothing that will make casters unplayable or suboptimal. I dont want to deter anyone from playing a caster.

Actually, a ban on magic items is more likely to deter me from playing a non-caster.

Would you like to join us for the game.

I don't know that I'll be going to PaizoCon. (I'm working Friday, the banquet on Saturday is sold out, and I missed the event lottery, so I don't know that there's much point in buying a ticket.) But I may swing by for a post-Con game. I'll see what my schedule looks like as the weekend in question approaches.

Count me as interested.

and I missed the event lottery, ...

The Event Lottery is *RIGHT NOW* - you still have over a day to signup!

Count me as interested.

This table just got interesting... :-)

Majuba wrote:

Count me as interested.

This table just got interesting... :-)

*hums innocently*

Sounds like fun to me---interested!

I would like to run a 20th level Pathfinder game after Paizocon from 2-7pm on Sunday.

...

If you would like to join in or have any questions please post them here.

thanks
Kelly

I and my friend (Scott) would both like to try this out! It sounds fun.

Thanks!

GM: Kelly (Gotrek22)
PC1: Kyle
PC2: Majuba
PC3: Kjob
PC4: mln84
PC5: Scott
PC6: Open

Look right? Any class preferences?

I was kind of leaning toward Paladin fwiw.

GM: Kelly (Gotrek22)
PC1: Kyle - Paladin
PC2: Majuba - Eldritch Knight, melee, half-orc [I'm flexible in the end btw]
PC3: Kjob
PC4: mln84
PC5: Scott
PC6: Open

Materials: Use a 20 point build, single class – 20th level, with 10,000 gp in non-magical equipment and spell components.

Majuba, see my emphasis. Looks like no multiclassing or PrC's.

Gotrek22 wrote:

Materials: Use a 20 point build, single class – 20th level, with 10,000 gp in non-magical equipment and spell components.

Majuba, see my emphasis. Looks like no multiclassing or PrC's.

Mmm, good point. *pondering*

The Event Lottery is *RIGHT NOW* - you still have over a day to signup!

Alas, I won't have a chance to purchase a ticket before then. Though I appreciate the heads up.

I would love to join. I'll give the class some thought this afternoon.

Kelly,

If we summon a monster or use planar ally to bring a creature to our plane, do their magical items stop being magical instantly?

Is table full???

Other wise I will play

level 20 powers who needs magic items...

Is table full???

Other wise I will play

level 20 powers who needs magic items...

GM: Kelly (Gotrek22)

Chot I should be able to squeeze in one more.

It looks like we have a full party. Feel free and discuss party composition.

Kyle, magic items will be drained of their magic soon after being brought to Golarion.

Kelly

I was thinking Paladin, too! Hm, perhaps an Oracle (Lore mystery?) or Cleric type character, instead, I'll have to really dig into the capstones of some of the APG classes this weekend, as I'm not super familiar with high level play (which is a big reason I want to do this!)

I was thinking Paladin, too! Hm, perhaps an Oracle (Lore mystery?) or Cleric type character, instead, I'll have to really dig into the capstones of some of the APG classes this weekend, as I'm not super familiar with high level play (which is a big reason I want to do this!)

Nothing wrong with a pair of paladins! And even it our party wasn't balanced, so what? We should all play whatever we want, balance be damned. Worst case is we get TPK'd, right? :-)

I'm curious what the pace of play is going to be like at this level, especially with 7(!) players.

Fair point, but since earlier I've managed to talked myself out of Paladin and into a Human Oracle. Besides, I don't know when else I'll get the chance to cast Miracle/Wish (if I go Lore), Bwhahaha.

I was thinking Undead Lord... what you said "2 palys"... what I meant to say is Alchemist. I will look into what type. I have so many to choose from.

GM: Kelly (Gotrek22)
PC1: Kyle - Paladin
PC2: Majuba - Eldritch Knight, melee, half-orc [I'm flexible in the end btw]
PC3: Kjob
PC4: Malcolm (mln84)- ??
PC5: Scott (Radon)- ??
PC6: Derek
PC7: Chot

This will be fun! I'll chat with Scott later today about classes.

What a way to end PaizoCon, a capstone game.

I'm away from my computer for a few days, and look at what I miss! If anybody bails from this game, please save the slot for me. Thanks!

Edit: If by some miracle I do get back into this game, I think I would like to play a dwarf cleric.

GM: Kelly (Gotrek22)
PC1: Kyle - Paladin
PC2: Majuba - Bard
PC3: Kjob
PC4: Malcolm (mln84)- ??
PC5: Scott (Radon)- ??
PC6: Derek
PC7: Chot

Picked Bard. I think a Monk would be killer in this group.

GM: Kelly (Gotrek22)
PC1: Kyle - Paladin
PC2: Majuba - Bard
PC3: Kjob - Human Oracle (Lore)
PC4: Malcolm (mln84)- ??
PC5: Scott (Radon)- ??
PC6: Derek
PC7: Chot

Went with Oracle, agreed on Monk, Majuba, the monks deals rather well with the lower magic-ness of the scenario!

[GM: Kelly (Gotrek22)
PC1: Kyle - Paladin
PC2: Majuba - Bard
PC3: Kjob - Human Oracle (Lore)
PC4: Malcolm (mln84)- Monk
PC5: Scott (Radon)- ??
PC6: Derek
PC7: Chot

I had been thinking monk, so I will take that since area people have mentioned it. Was also debating wiz/sorc, but I feel I don't know the spells well enough at that level (the highest caster I've played was 10th).

The Bard should help with buffing. What spells were you thinking for your Oracle, Kjob? I think we'll be okay with healing, I'm worried about needing spells like Magic Vestment, Greater Magic Weapon, (mass?) Bull's Strength, (mass?) Bear's Endurance.

I'm more than willing to take the punishment, but it'd be nice to have an extra 40 hit points. :-)

Puttin me on the spot! I was thinking most of the "answer" spells (cure paralysis, break enchantment, FoM, breath of life, etc), beyond that the key buff spells, then a handful of blasty spells. My character will probably NOT be going the route of self-buffing for melee, but I need to map it all out. I plan on focusing on buffs/debuffs, battlefield control.

Also, I think Ill have a really good handle on knowledge checks (automatic 20's, adding charisma modifier instead of int to checks), so, if you want to use a archetype that forgoes bardic knowledge, we'd probably be fine :)

I play an Oracle(Lore)/Bard in Pathfinder Society. I love knowing just about everything about everything. :-)

Looks like I don't have to worry about being the party face with two charisma based high-skill characters.

Majuba, you thinking of going Arcane Duelist?

Hey all,lots of great party planning discussion. In order to try and maintain game balance and flow I would prefer if people didn't take the leadership feat or take companions (animal/animated undead/demons...), though familiars should be fine as they dont play much of a combat role. With 7 players there will be enough going on.

If you must play with a companion we can work with it. Nobody had proposed a companion class yet so I hope the restriction wouldn't affect anyone.

Summoned creatures are fine, just have them spec'ed out before hand.

As people get characters done please either post them here or you can email them to me at gotrek2222@yahoo.com

I am looking forward to the game.
thanks
Kelly

Kelly,
Is it safe to assume Ultimate Magic is an allowed source? Specifically, the Enlightened Philosopher Archetype for the Oracle

Edit---also, do we get 2 traits?

I think a Monk would be killer in this group.

Especially if your monk player knows about vow of poverty from Ultimate Magic.

Majuba wrote:

I think a Monk would be killer in this group.

Especially if your monk player knows about vow of poverty from Ultimate Magic.

Kjob, the Enlightened philosopher Oracle looks fine. Ultimate magic should be fine to use. I haven't had a chance to read the entire thing yet and it looks pretty balanced. I ask people to stay away from abilities that give advantages for not having magic items - such as vow of silence, as there is no real disadvantage in this game. The monk will be plenty good regardless.

About traits: no traits

I usually allow characters with to be created with traits as is helps to provide a starting point for developing character background. But at 20th level characters have some many feats and abilities that traits are just one more thing to keep track of.

thanks
Kelly

For the purposes of character creation assume that you are all part of a renown adventuring and retired Pathfinder society members. Maybe you have gone into retirement and established a fortress/wizard tower or have continued to adventure either on your own or with another group.

kelly

How are hit points being handled? In PFS we use max at first level and then the following:

d6 = 4/level
d8 = 5/level
d10 = 6/level
d12 = 7/level

How are hit points being handled? In PFS we use max at first level and then the following:

d6 = 4/level
d8 = 5/level
d10 = 6/level
d12 = 7/level

Kyle - yes go ahead and use PFS hp generation - max at first and average rounded up for all others.

Starting spells known- wizards and witches can choose 20- spell level in additional spells for each spell level, ie 19 -1st level spells, 18 - 2nd, 17-3rd...etc, to put in their spell books representing their accumulated knowledge. Additional spells can be bought at the normal scroll price to add to spell books from your starting gold. (Assume these scrolls were all purchased/acquired and added to spell books before magic items lost their power.)

Alchemists can choose an additional 15- spell level in extracts to begin with.

The starting 10K in resources doesn't represent you entire wealth only what you happen to have on you when the adventure begins.

Kelly

Majuba, you thinking of going Arcane Duelist?

Nope, Core Bard. So I will have Bardic Knowledge, but I may skimp on ranks. May also be low-ish Charisma. We'll see.

Kyle Baird wrote:

Majuba, you thinking of going Arcane Duelist?

Nope, Core Bard. So I will have Bardic Knowledge, but I may skimp on ranks. May also be low-ish Charisma. We'll see.

[GM: Kelly (Gotrek22)

Tanks: Paladin, Monk, Alchemist?
Healing: Oracle (Lore), Paladin, Bard, Alchemist?
Arcane: Witch?, Bard, Alchemist?
Social: Bard, Oracle, Paladin

What are we missing? Oracle has 9th level spells. Witch has 9th level spells.

I love that there's no Fighter, Wizard, Cleric, or Rogue. :)

Ya the Alchemist will have some Healing(most likely breath of life too)

I dont know If I will tank out, but I cant wait to see the Giant monk kick ass.

Any plans on how the monk is going to bypass DR/good?

No
The alchemist will be able to do at least a choice of 2 damage types with bombs. The Monk will have to swing for 4d8 +str +power attack (assuming he is big which the alchemist can help with)