Just a quick post to remind you that if you do a 30' burst for the cleric (and yes I will buy one in a heartbeat)It needs to be centred on a square rather than a point like all the other templates otherwise the burst will be uneven and you have arguments about what corner to place the template on.
Speaking of which how do you guys handle that situation. My players regularly carry around a stone with silence cast on it. The monk carries it on his person but all the templates are centred on a point not a square because the spell rules make you target your spell there.
What does everone else do for this circumstance???
Just a quick post to remind you that if you do a 30' burst for the cleric (and yes I will buy one in a heartbeat)It needs to be centred on a square rather than a point like all the other templates otherwise the burst will be uneven and you have arguments about what corner to place the template on.
Speaking of which how do you guys handle that situation. My players regularly carry around a stone with silence cast on it. The monk carries it on his person but all the templates are centred on a point not a square because the spell rules make you target your spell there.
What does everone else do for this circumstance???
You're mistaken:
SRD wrote:
Some effects, notably clouds and fogs, spread out from a point of origin, which must be a grid intersection...
SRD wrote:
The point of origin of a spell is always a grid intersection.
Your monk may choose any corner of his square as the center of the effect.
Some effects, notably clouds and fogs, spread out from a point of origin, which must be a grid intersection...
SRD wrote:
The point of origin of a spell is always a grid intersection.
Your monk may choose any corner of his square as the center of the effect.
Yeah I know that's what it says, and it's there for gameplay ease,but that just seems lopsided and helps to destroy the suspension of disbelief. I was hoping for an answer that ,i don't know, seemed more realistic if you say that of an imaginary world with magic and dragons :-).. The game runs smoothly and then something like that comes along which just helps to reinforce in everyones mind... Just a game and now we have to resort to a silly rule for the ease of gameplay.
Just my thoughts. I have ended up cuting out a 20' template from coloured plastic that centres on a square. It's slightly wider in the some areas but less so in others so as not to enlargen the area of effect too much.
I have the spell radius templates and both cone templates. I am also currently palying a cleric and would REALLY like a 30 ft template...60 ft would be great too!!!
Count me as getting one as soon as they are available.
The only way that there will be a 30' channel energy template is if we sell out of the original templates, and right now we still have quite a few in the warehouse. So it might be a bit still.
These are a great product... but the price is fairly high. I do not know how much it was to make this items but you could (been a while since I looked) source them for alot less than the advertised price.
I have a full set... and I look forward to the day when I can use them. The players that I GM rarely play arcanist or use area effects.
These are a great product... but the price is fairly high. I do not know how much it was to make this items but you could (been a while since I looked) source them for alot less than the advertised price.
I have a full set... and I look forward to the day when I can use them. The players that I GM rarely play arcanist or use area effects.
These weren't created by Paizo. Rather, one of our partners, Steel Sqwire, made them, so we have very little control over the price. Just a FYI.
What also would be nice are splash/cloud templates for the alchemist, i.e. 5ft-splash, 10ft-splash/cloud.
Especially the cloud would be useful for tracking its movement over the battlefield.
I agree this is an awesome idea, but why do people buy these rather than buy a cheap bundle of hangars at Wal Mart and use a pair of pliers?
You want them colored? Buy a can of acrylic paint and make use of old newspapers and what not.
For $10 dollars and a couple of hours of patience, if you paint them and need to wait for them to dry, otherwise only about an hour, you can own a pair of pliers, a can of paint of one of your favorite colors, and enough hangars to make as many of these as you will ever need, and get the satisfaction of being the one who made them!
Only trick to making these is to keep them on a flat surface while bending them, such as a kitchen counter top. I also keep a heavy book on the part I have already bent to help keep it flat, over all.
If you, or someone you know, owns some power tools, use some ply wood to make yourself a template around which to bend these.
Do that and you can make yourself, and everyone you game with, as many as you each want, for comparatively very little money. The template will help you go faster and have fewer problems with the bends and keeping it flat.
I agree this is an awesome idea, but why do people buy these rather than buy a cheap bundle of hangars at Wal Mart and use a pair of pliers?
For the same reason some people change their own oil in the car, and some people don't.
It is a matter over weighing the time over cost with your own set of priorities.
Some people, cost is most important and your suggestion will be enjoyed. Others the time investment wins out, and they would rather purchase. ((I have found in my own personal life, the more disposable cash I have, the more likely I'd rather just purchase/pay someone else to do it...))
I agree this is an awesome idea, but why do people buy these rather than buy a cheap bundle of hangars at Wal Mart and use a pair of pliers?
The way I decide on a purchase is math.
You say about an hour to make these your self with out painting them maybe a little longer if I do paint them.
I consider my personal time more valuable than $30 an hour. So I'd rather pay that amount and then play more games or play with my son Thomas and Friends. (He calls Wooo Woooo)
No doubt I could make something just as nice if not nicer. Just a measured decision.
1" grid & some braids = template to make as many templates as needed. But my dads a fabricator so his basement is a mad machinists room and it took him no time to make the template. I would like to support the FLGS that carries these but not for the price of the different sets.
+1 to an expanded version of this pack with a 30' radius for channeling when the existing inventory runs out. I'd happily buy the whole pack again if singles aren't offered :)
(I can always give the duplicates as gifts, after all.)
I wonder how much of the inventory is sitting there, unpurchased pretty much because there isn't a 30ft template to go with it.
I'm not trying to be negative... I've just looked at this product repeatedly every time for the last two years that it's been mentioned. Each time I don't buy it because it's still functionally incomplete. Like a set of dice with no d8.
Maybe if you were ordering X new full sets from Steel Squire you could convince them to ship you an additional Y 30ft templates so you could round out your current inventory, making X+Y full sets available... and desirable, instead of Y sets sitting there blocking potential sales.
Of course, for all I know this is an unpopular product and Y is something silly like 3 and you've only sold a dozen sets since introduction. No clue, except my psychology.
We don't have any plans at this time to update this product.
Well... that's too bad. Thanks for the reply on it just the same. Going to attempt to build my own out of 18 gauge floral wire and rubber spline - wish me luck!
If anyone is keeping tabs though; another set containing a 15 ft., 30 ft., and 60 ft. radius circle would be awesome!
At GenCon last year I showed Erik Mona my homemade 30' radius template and 15' cone template made from costume wire. He seem impressed and was interested. You're sitting on a gold mine here, Paizo!