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It sort of depends. Men can father children at very young ages (14-15) or very old (70+ is rare but not unknown).

That said, for someone who was around about a century ago, I would say great-great-grandfather, assuming 22-25 years/generation, which is pretty typical. You might get away with great-grandfather if you assume a 30-year generation time.

But whatever works, works.

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A museum curator is secretly selling off stuff from the vaults to finance (her retirement | her son's medical treatment | a life of drunken debauchery | some cultist who's raising money for a try at the Starstone (he says) | insert your choice here).

PCs are offered a chance to buy something at ridiculously low prices. Do they accept the offer (and deal with the museum's security force when the thefts become known)? Turn in the curator? Blackmail the museum?

Oh, and a couple of the pieces she sold? Really shouldn't have been removed from their lead-lined coffers...

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Well, scrying, detect thoughts and clairvoyance/clairaudience would seem to be absolutely essential for a spy or spymaster. Message is too limited in range.

Telepathic bond is amazingly useful for spymasters as it obviates all that tedious difficulty about passing messages. Tongues would be handy if he doesn't have the right linguistic skills, and certainly comprehend languages. Though he should certainly be maxing out Linguistics as high intelligence will make him good at forging stuff.

Secret page will help in concealing his notes, and his spellbooks.

Charm person and suggestion would both be very helpful in recruiting informants! Knock, disguise self, and (improved) invisibility would all be very handy in sneaking around to gather information. Locate object might be valuable.

Reduce person or dimension door would both be very handy in getting into and out of various places, maybe spider climb to sneak up and listen outside of windows or get to other hard-to-reach places. D-door is also very nice for going to/from secret chambers, including the totally-bricked-up chamber where he keeps all his notes and records. Remember to memorize it twice! Once in, once out.

He's probably either an enchantment or divination specialist. I'm guessing that necromancy is NOT on his banned list, because speak with dead is sometimes handy for interrogations, and disposing of your no-longer-useful agents by making undead out of them is an old tradition among evil cultists. Plus if you can control an incorporeal undead you have an unsurpassed espionage agent/assassin who can walk through walls...

He's not high enough level to cast sending, dominate person or geas/quest yet, but he should be looking toward those sometime in his future. He might have a scroll or two of them around for emergencies or to report back home.

Feats: Brew Potion would let him give useful spells and abilities to his minions regardless of their UMD skill, and give him a reason to constantly be hanging around the court inquiring about magic. "Yes, that's our Potionmaster, Harmless chap, but stop by sometime and buy stuff -- he sells at a discount, and has a great wine cellar." -- which gives him a nice reason to talk to anybody and everybody. No one will be surprised if the Countess' maid stops by for some of the Countess' beauty potions, and if she gossips a bit while she's there, why not? (Being a shopkeeper of some sort is a great way to have easy access to all sorts of people, and it helps hide him from the PCs and/or any police.... Bonus points if he can get the PCs to be (unknowing) informants, or give them fetch quests!)

Spell Mastery, though seldom used, would be great if he has several spells he regularly uses and never wants to be without, especially if he doesn't want anyone knowing he has access to them by looking in his spellbooks. (He may have an extra spellbook or two lying around in concealed cubbyholes, well-disposed.)

Still Spell and (especially) Silent Spell would help him use magic with less chance of detection, but he might have Spell Focus in either enchantment or divination, as well as other feats to help him cast spells unnoticed.

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The players meet a talking cat on the island. The dead wizard's old familiar is hanging around, and might,, or might not, be willing to feed the players accurate information.

Being a shape shifting quasit or imp, he's got his own goal in mind - the wizard's soul is still somewhere in the area and he wants the players to release it so he can grab it and take it home. But he'd rather not die in the process... and he's not averse to becoming the familiar of one of the players, if things should chance that way....

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For a Lawful Evil plane, imagine that you are Dilbert, and that the Pointy-Haired Boss, Catbert the Evil HR Director, and Mordac the Preventer of Information Services are, none of them, the fundamentally light-hearted, friendly, helpful, and generous characters we see in the comic.

Evil is not a team jersey where everyone on the same side works together, like good (mostly) is. Evil is a way of doing things -- specifically, the way that sees "me first" as the organizing principle of the universe. No one out there is on your side, at all.

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Not boom. Hordes of undead plus spells that do horrible things to non-undead creatures -- for instance, mind fog or cloudkill. I suppose you could cast communal fire resistance on your horde before starting the fireball-tossing, but using stuff the undead are naturally immune to is just more elegant.

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Any devil can pretend to be pretty or handsome. Illusion, shapechanging, all that stuff...

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Give them choices -- do you take the easy way or the hard way? Repeatedly...

If they do X to get away, they succeed easily but enemies get closer, or they have to fight someone else ("the easy way is always mined!"). Or they can try the hard way -- if they succeed, the enemies fall further behind or are weakened.

For instance:
Quicksand patch -- with a Survival check, the PCs can leave traces indicating that they entered here, and 3 pursuers have to make Reflex saves (DC 14) or be trapped in quicksand and out of the pursuit (maybe dead, won't matter). Or they can just go around -- but then the tribesmen get to go around too.

Up ahead looks like the lair of (insert local ferocious beast) -- can you get past him with a Stealth check, or do you go around? Maybe the tribesmen won't puruse, or will wake him up (and lose 1-3 from the pursuit.)

When in doubt, have some drums sounding way behind the PCs.

This looks like a good ambush site -- do you try to lay one? (Be dramatic, e.g., a trail on the edge of a cliff.) If the PCs lay an ambush, they have to fight 1-2 enemy scouts (the enemy has split up to cover the possible escape routes); if they can kill the scouts without them raising an alarm, they gain hours -- if they don't, all the enemies converge on the spot.

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Keep in mind that investigations on this level would almost certainly include a commune spell, perhaps asking Andoran's patron deity, so the government (any government, really) has the means to know exactly what's going on.

If they think to ask the right questions, of course.

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The Teeth of Dahlver-Nar (I really must update those for Pathfinder)...

The Sword of Kas (don't you want to have it?)

The Machine of Lum the Mad (what a wonderful name)

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"level" in a spell description is caster level, unless otherwise specified. It's still a lot of hit points plus all the status-removal effects.

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The prisoner could have...

...overheard a conversation between the Stag Lord and his father full of the father trying to warn his son about "fey gifts" and their dangers, particularly fey lovers.

....had the Stag Lord rant at him about "the Green Lady" and how she guarantees his triumph, and gave him the owlbear. (Not everything that is said needs to be true. Staggy could have been drunk, or recounting a dream, or something.)

...seen the Stag Lord fondling a locket of green hair (Nyrissa's token), perhaps in a disturbing and creepy fashion.

...had Sarenrae send a very minor angel to protect him the night one of Nyrissas dreams get sent to the Stag Lord and the prisoner gets caught up in the overflow.

...had the druid come talk to him, asking help getting free of his evil son (probably a bluff as part of the interrogation, but maybe not.)

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I'd let charm give a new save against dominate -- getting Ordered to Attack Someone You Love is one of the classic triggers for breaking free of the evil enchanter. Sounds like everyone is having fun.

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In general, use the kingdom building rules as a rough measure of "how good are you doing", and as a scenario and politics generator. Even with the UC version, don't use it as a gamable system for the players to 'win" at. It's not really well-suited for that.

The primary problem is the lack of negative feedback loops. As you build more and more of a kingdom, it becomes easier to make DCs, meaning after a while it's just about impossible to fail -- and then what? You as a GM want to generate _problems_ for the PCs to deal with, not just have them march to success on easy mode.

So add your own negative feedback loops. Different towns generate unrest if they don't get _something_. Different political groups want _different_ things, and usually these are not possible to fit together. Ambitious people want to be important, and need to be dealt with. Minions get into empire-building, and personality conflicts. Some people start something (e.g., wars with centaurs, or taxes on something some other group needs or wants.) Do some real difficulties for people to work with.

One minor thing I did that worked well was that I generated separate events for each map the PCs had claimed hexes on. Spread out your territory, have more problems to deal with...

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Just have her claim she's an elf from the Mwangi Expanses. Hey, dark-skinned humans, dark-skinned elves, why not?

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Their demon lords like having drow around to worship them, are amused by their plots, and sponsor cloning vats for all the major drow houses, so there is always a new supply around, with bonuses for the extra memories of all the times they backstabbed each other.

"So, that's now 14 times I've murdered you, compared to 8 times you've murdered me!"

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My (retired) halfling necromancer enjoys six meals a day in between creating new undead from the bones on his plate. Skeleton fish, flaming zombie chickens, abominable asparagus assault angels, the list goes on and on...

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The maze is a bunch of twisty little passages, all alike. The reason is to confuse people trying to scry on someone living in the maze -- because it's all alike, they can never be sure that they've teleported into the right place when they try. Stocking it with traps and weird monsters is just to make sure that intruders never make it out again... or at least that they won't be at full strength when they reach the center.

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Watch out for summon-monster types -- they're not superlatively powerful but they can bog down gameplay. insist that the guy summoning monsters have all the statblocks conveniently to hand and run them fast and well.

No single tough monster is immune from one-shot knockouts. Have mooks! Or pairs of monsters. Single BBEGs don't work well in tabletop.

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Give him some places where he has choices -- e.g., use Stealth to get across the room, or Climb to go up the wall? Don't always force him to use one skill.

Maybe there is someone in the maze he can talk to -- perhaps the gorgons are willing to toy with their prey, or they hate each other and can be convinced to do each other dirty....

Don't make every skill failure lethal -- give him a cushion where the first couple of failed checks just make things more difficult. E.g., gorgons start off sleeping and the first bit of noise only wakes them up, and then they start patrolling.

Have some traces of lingering poison that slow him down (Dex poison, maybe), and perhaps some things in the maze at help counter it (e.g., a potion or two of lesser restoration).

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Male Human Cleric 1
AC 16 t.12 ff.14, hp -2/9, saves F3 R2 W7, init +2, Per +6, touch of good 7/7, calming touch 6/7, channel 1/3

Balek's nostrils twitch slightly.

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Don't forget Knowledge (local), Knowledge (geography), and Knowledge (nobility and royalty) -- all of these are very very useful for knowing what's up, what the possibilities are, and who all the local power structures are and what can be done about them.

Most definitely talk to your GM! This is really a matter of campaign direction more than anything; there are no particular rules for it.

The Leadership feat will help you have a coterie of devoted followers, but it's more along the lines of a gang or a business or a monastery or a private guard than it is of taking over a kingdom.

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One difficulty about the tongues curse, which I didn't realize for a bit, is that it makes language-dependent spells hard to use in combat, particularly at lower levels.

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All evil works on appearing pretty -- or at least impressive.

It's only after you're in the snare that the masks come off, and you see that Asmodeus isn't laughing with you, but at you. Norgorber isn't selling you secrets, he's buying yours and selling them to your enemies. Lamashtu might have the hot-and-heavy vibe, but you're not her children, you're their food.

The remaining evil deities are left as an exercise for the nightmare-prone.

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... when a single bard that presents no combat threat whatsoever remains the most-talked-about foe years after the campaign ends.

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Divination spells fall into several categories -- you may want to figure out which one(s) of them your class will use. (Note that not even diviner wizards or Knowledge-domain clerics get all the divination spells; figure out a theme and stick to it.)

Category one: Special Glasses let you see things from where you are. Darkvision, most of the detect spells, see invisibility, and others fall into this category. They negate environmental obstacles, help you see through illusions of various types. They're nice if you can fight, or can cast them on combat types accompanying you, but usually don't reveal hidden mysteries. Most of these are low-level spells, though some of them (like true seeing wait till the mid-levels). Magic that boosts your Perception or Sense Motive probably belongs in this category as well.

Foiled by: invisible medusas. "You really didn't want to see me."

Good for: People who want to do things while wearing Special Glasses -- so either buff spells to cast on someone else, or spells for a magic/martial hybrid class to cast on themselves.

Category two: Remote Viewing lets you see things that are far away, usually (but not always) on the same plane. Clairvoyance, scrying, arcane eye; these are usually mid-level spells, and good for remote scouting. Seeing through a familiar's eyes, or an animal's, provides similar abilities. These spells effectively place your eyes somewhere else and let you look around.

Foiled by: being on another plane, lead sheeting, and (sometimes) measures that defeat sight. Some of these spells work with Special Glasses, many of them don't.

Good for: High-magic people who can scry (sometimes) and do other things (most of the time), information gathering types.

Category Three: Brain Implants let you know things and ask questions and act on information that you wouldn't otherwise have. Speak with dead, blood biography, tongues, comprehend languages, speak with animals, find the path, and so forth. Spells that boost your Knowledge skills (including Linguistics and Appraise) usually fall into this category, as do abilities that boost your initiative or let you act in the surprise round. These things are found at all levels.

Foiled by: asking questions of things that don't have the information in the first place, or want to lie. This is where your own skills in intepreting the information (Sense Motive, knowledge skills, ability to think on your feet and/or read the GM's hints well) become important.

Good for: Classes that schmooze with people and use Knowledge skills a lot, detectives and investigators.

Category Four: Plot Breakers are similar to Brain Implants, but are more noted for their ability to make unimaginative GMs cry if used effectively: divination, commune, vision, contact other plane, legend lore, etc. These are mid- to high-level spells (though some classes can get an improved familiar with commune as early as 7th level.

Foiled by: GM fiat, player boneheadedness (GMs may not want to reveal their plots, players may persist in asking the gods the wrong questions), and (sometimes) inability to afford expensive material components. USE WITH CAUTION. Note to GMs: This is one of the things that happens in high-level play; maybe you should talk over these things with your players before getting too high-level. Also figure out what your BBEGs are doing with these spells.

Good for: Any adventuring class, but you can also sometimes get the same information from NPC Mouthpieces of the Gods, or GM Informants. Spells of this power should probably only be available to full-caster classes or very thematically appropriate classes.

When you're designing a class, think about which categories you want them to be able to use, and when they're usable. Special Glasses are mostly good for combat or dungeon-crawling and in the heat of action. Remote Viewing is good for scouting and dungeon-crawling but you probably wouldn't cast them during combat. Brain Implants can be good at any time depending on what ability they enhance, but they're often handiest in face time or scouting outside of combat. Plot Breakers are almost always non-combat spells. Try and make sure your class has more than one option available -- it should be able to do something (not necessarily magic) in all situations.

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Witches are great at using their hexes for debuffing (and some buffing), with their spells for backup and utility purposes. Usually it's fairly obvious what to do.

Wizards are probably the best overall buffers and debuffers in the game, if they are built right, and if they spend time thinking about what they need to do, learning about their opponents, and knowing the right thing to do. Plus if they work on adding to their spells known they can very often come up with the perfect tool for the occasion. (Research, divination, and Knowledge skills are all very important!.) You need a fair amount of system mastery and tactical knowledge to be highly effective at this.

(Clerics and bards are really good at buffing, not so good at debuffing, depending on the build.)

In either case, you want to look for several things:

1) who is the rest of your party? what spells would really help them, or really hinder enemies as they work to take them out? You need to work with your fellow players on this, and figure out what makes them shine the best.

2) Look for spells that have no SR and/or no saving throw -- sometimes just changing conditions around someone is enough, and you don't want to fail against high-save enemies.

3) Have spells (or hexes, or whatever) that target several different saves -- and know which save an enemy is weak at. Then use the right spell for the job. Don't throw a Fort save at a giant (good Fort save, high Con) -- throw a Will save instead.

4) Know what your spells do, and how to get around them. Shutting down enemy archers with a pocket rainstorm is clever, but not so clever if your party's main damage-dealer is an archer. (Put up an illusion of a fogbank instead and let him know it's not real so he can easily save against it.) Buff your friends, debuff your foes, and watch out on the overlap between those zones.

5) Research your enemies ahead of time if possible, so you can prepare the perfect spell for the occasion. The middle of combat is not the right time to be thumbing through the 38-volume Encyclopedia of Targets!

6) Have a light hand on the scales -- do enough to let your friends win the battle, not enough that you run out of spells partway through. Often a single spell and some aid another actions (or wands, or cantrips) will be more than sufficient for one encounter. Save your best spells for when they really make a difference. And that way, if things get really tough, you have reserves to pull from that your foes (or the GM) may not be expecting.

7) If you can, get some wands of handy utility spells (the sort of thing you regularly cast), and some scrolls of key helpful spells (the sort of thing where you go "I'll only need this once every seven years, but when I do I will need it very badly." Wands of mage armor, scrolls of stone to flesh. Wands of protection from (alignment of favorite enemy), scrolls of water breathing.. Prepare during downtime, and you'll be able to save the day when things go haywire.

8) If it gives a saving throw, you cast it; if it doesn't, wands or scrolls are an OK source. Higher DCs from you than from items.

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Get a necklace of fireballs, then swing down on a rope into the midst of your enemies, with a flask of alchemist's fire open in one hand, pouring it over yourself as you go down. Voluntarily fail your save against fire, and have the necklace set itself off.

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If she lives long enough, you could use her to replace Grigori in Book 2.

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Asmodeus would work just fine. No evil is petty -- what matters is to slowly turn the soul away from its orbit around the Light and redirect it into the outer Darkness.

Big evil gets noticed. Big messy evil gets fought. Slow, petty, stuff --- that's the ticket.

(And now you know why Cheliax is so bureaucratic...)

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By the time you're fifth level, every martial has a reasonable chance of inflicting instant death on an arcane caster (if not on casters with d8 HD); it's called "I power attack with my favorite weapon." :)

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I prefer a static setting, maybe with some revelations of mysteries as things go on. It's just way too fatiguing to try and keep track of everything that's happening.

And static situations make it possible for GMs to do their thing without worrying about it all being invalidated by a change to the setting.

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Angel with a covey of pet basilisks. Angels are immune to petrification.

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Rule of thumb: if you want the players to get something, give them three clues. That way at least one of them ought to pick up on one of them. A single chance to pick up on the obvious will usually be missed -- and remember that what's obvious to you is NOT obvious to them. You have the whole background of the story in your head; they do not.

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Leaving aside such obvious basics as dimensional barriers, scrying barriers, walls of force, and the like...

Putting the tower on another plane.

A permanent gate with a programmed illusion of the wizard laughing and taunting his foes, then walking through the gate. Needless to say, the destination is (a) not healthy, and (b) not easy to get back from, with (c) lots of unfriendly natives.

A golem under orders to take down a blanket covering a symbol if any intruders enter the room, then attack those incapacitated by the symbol. (The wizard always recites a password when entering the room. This is a blind. The real trigger to the golem is "if anyone enters without having a raven perched on their left shoulder", a raven being the wizard's imp familiar's favored shape).

That old favorite guards and wards. The uses are manifold, and limited only by your imagination (e.g., a built-in suggestion to, oh, walk through a doorway similar to the above portal.) The combinations are very possible.

A mighty and powerful guardian that will attack anyone approaching except those who knock politely, identify themselves, and ask to be admitted.

Illusions making the tower itself appear to be a humble cottage near a frightening tower. The tower itself is a deathtrap dungeon to rival the Tomb of Horrors, but the cottage conceals a portal to wherever the wizard actually lives.

An illusion of a beaded curtain beyond which a room full of great treasure awaits. The doorway is actually filled by a prismatic wall and right above the oubliette.

A screen spell that shows the wizard cavorting in his bathtub with a nymph. If one attempts to teleport into the scene, one will discover the room is actually filled with non-breathable atmosphere, the "showers" are hydroflouric acid, and the teleport trap on the room brings one straight back into it.

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I can think of several possibilities.

Ghouls if they cannibalized others in order to survive, though you'd need to do something tricky to make any number of CR2-3 ghouls a threat to a 9th level party (6 ghouls with some terrain advantages, maybe extra equipment, maybe attacking with surprise as they know the area well.) This would be a straight combat encounter.

Maybe a vampire (and the others now its spawn), perhaps turned by one of the people who abandoned them and thought it would be funny to make one member of the family a vampire and make them eat the others, or perhaps just a case of blood drinking instead of cannibalism. Play up the pathos (child blood-drinkers, for instance...) One vampire isn't much of a threat to a 9th level party unless it can turn them against each other somehow; 4-6 vampire spawn would be a combat encounter much like the ghoul bash.

Perhaps most likely ghosts of those who starved to death, who need either to be fed or to escape. Having several of them try to possess PCs (and then savagely tear into their rations, or run straight for the exit) might give them a challenge. Especially if they use telekinetic abilities first to attack, before manifesting. Bonus if the PCs talk to them and help them: they can tell about a treasure hidden in a back corner, or a secret way (or something) further along in the dungeon. Or the PCs can fight their way through, which should be fairly easy. This would be a more intellectual/tricky encounter.

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Male Human Cleric 1
AC 16 t.12 ff.14, hp -2/9, saves F3 R2 W7, init +2, Per +6, touch of good 7/7, calming touch 6/7, channel 1/3

Strategically, reporting the situation with that message scroll would certainly seem to be in order. ;)

Tactically, if Red Team went down fast, Blue Team is going to have problems. Our combined strength might be sufficient, but how to free Red Team without getting noticed?

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Generally, if you want a lot of encounters, run lower-ECL encounters than you normally would. You need things that can maybe hit the players if everything goes well, but aren't likely to hit.

Pursuing mooks work great for this. Tracking parties with dogs, for instance. These guys can catch up, attack, and run away when a few of their number fall (instead of fighting to the death -- they might fall back and sound their horns, hoping to attract more pursuers. Having more horns then sound further away and getting closer can really scare PCs.)

A flying scout or something that tracks them and signals for other pursuers (horns, fireworks, wand of dancing lights, whatever). Can they shoot it down, or lure it into range?

Archers who aim at the horses instead of the PCs (sure, the PCs can ride double if a horse or two dies, but that tires the horse out even more quickly.)

Have a couple of encounters where the PCs can try something safe and slow, or speedy and risky. If they do "safe and slow", they're likely to face another encounter; if they do "speedy and risky" then they gain an edge on their pursuers. For instance, ride a couple of extra miles to reach the bridge over the river -- or ford it right here (but they have to make Swim checks or something).

Bridges can be fun in other ways. Can they destroy a bridge to gain time? Can they trick their way past the guards on another bridge ("yes, we're pursuing those guys too!") -- allow things like Bluff or Diplomacy to work instead of just fighting.

A herd of buffalo crosses their path -- can they stampede them into their pursuers and gain some time that way? Other monsters that might be talked or tricked into letting the PCs pass ("yes, mr. bridge troll, if you let us go then the guys behind us will race right after us and you can catch them all by surprise.")

Generally, have some encounters solvable (or that can be made easier) by wits rather than brute force.

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34. Teach them to read.

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89. An extremely tough guy (description to taste, but can obviously take the PCs entire party blindfolded with one hand tied behind his back....without magic) walks in, slightly out of breath, and tells the bartender. "Quic, three of my usual. Big Jim's a-comin' and I have to get out of town." The barkeep turns pale and immediately starts packing his strongbox.

90. Four halflings are playing a complicated game of cards at the back table. Oddly enough, the only thing in the pot is a heavy golden ring. One of the halflings incite the Pcs over to adjudicate a rules dispute. That's when the wraiths come out of the walls...

91. A dragon pokes his head in the door and roars "This is a stick-up!" He opens his jaws and demands that everyone drop all their valuables onto his tongue.

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Just go on without him. The players did something well-planned and presumably well-executed. If you reward that, you get more of that. Which is great all around.

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Talk to them again, individually as an adult.

If that doesn't work, find another group.

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Acts involving "playing one's character" does not make one immune to the consequences of those acts.

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Bards aren't broken.

Bards make others broken.

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53. Somehow their clothing never seems to get filthy, even when they have just emerged from an implausibly large sewer tunnel on the night of the Great Bran God Banquet and Jalapeno Festival.

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"Don't be a jackass" covers most of it.

Long lists of rules on character creation just get players who want to be jackasses to try out all the interesting (to them) edge cases of your rule set. The more rules you have, the more edges you have...

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Galleys would work much better than sailing ships -- the rigging on a full sailing ship is impressive to behold. Ignore the Paizo maps on this one -- they have very little to do with real ships.

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Don't do BBEG. Do BBBEG -- Big Bad BUNCHES of Evil Guys.

Action economy kills anyone who doesn't insta-gib the PCs. So don't even try to have one single titanic figure they must bring down -- have a bunch of people on a level with the PCs, or slightly below. Have an Evil Opposite Party. Have a bunch of buffed minions running around. Have two guardian shield golems with the wizard. Definitely have terrain and environment help the enemy instead of the PCs (bad weather against archers, a lot of pillars and chasms against a rage-charge-pounce-lance monster, some kind of LOS or anti-magic barriers against casters, whatever.) Have five or six DIFFERENT bad guys hanging around doing things.

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Advice for GMs on high-level DMing, planes, exotic locales.

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You know your DM is out to get you when the game starts in a tavern run by Alcoholics Anonymous.

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