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Mark Seifter wrote:
ChibiNyan wrote:An encounter with three creatures of your level is a boss-tier challenge in PF2 (and also PF1 if we replace level with CR); a boss fight should not take down 3/4 of the party if the party rolls poorly on initiative or all die before they can act if the party rolls high on initiative. A single creature of your level is a cakewalk warmup fight like those eight ogres in PF2 (the way PF1 talks about a CR=APL fights implies they are 'Average' but still pretty easy, but they're pretty much cakewalks in PF1 too).Mark Seifter wrote:I thought equal CR encounters were supposed to be pretty trivial. That's like 1 single NPC Wizard of party level +1? It better oneshot someone on their first turn, because that's all it's getting.ChibiNyan wrote:What about Single Target spells? Are they going to be doing significantly more than the AOE ones?
Yes, definitely, or adding riders effects, or both.Quote:Your 1 best spell should be able to nearly oneshot 1 creature of equivalent CR (assuming bosses are still higher CR than APL).But not that far. One shotting yourself / your own level means a really hard encounter with three casters at the party's level is going to wipe out 3/4 of the party if the enemies manage to act first (and conversely, the party with three casters will wipe out the entire encounter if they go first). That's an unpleasant level of glass-cannony rocket tag that we're trying to avoid.
Just curious, (I know this is off topic) what will be a good campaign ending final boss level where the chances of party success are about 50%? APL+3?