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Sonnets suck because the form is so restrictive. Free verse is always better.
Seriously, sometimes restrictions can improve things. A kitchen sink game isn't always the best way to go. A game can work better if it's more tightly focused.
That said, if I had a player I knew really like Kitsune (or whatever other race), I'd try to work them in. That doesn't mean that every race in the rules would be available in every campaign. More that they'd become part of the standard "core" for that group.
If you want to mess around with that kind of time travel plot, sure.
True. You can always bring in pretty much anything you want.
Sometimes that's fine. Sometimes I don't like that. Depends on the campaign. If we're going to be messing about with politics, for example, I like the characters to have roots and ties to the situation.
Sometimes I'm fine with the standard "You're just a bunch of wandering adventurers, doing whatever quests come along." For some campaign ideas, that doesn't work as well.
Yeah, the thing here is that the money someone at the highest levels could possibly scam off of Greenpeace is less than the people at the top of Exxon make just keeping the oil flowing. They don't have to steal from Exxon, it's worth plenty of bribery and corruption just to keep the business model running. So while the board and shareholders might be able to use their oversight to catch anyone skimming from the company on a large scale, their motivation is a lot less when it comes to crimes that keep help the company, since it boosts their bottom line as well.
Don Juan de Doodlebug wrote:
Fair enough. Sorry Willow, where ever you are.
But that's the point. It's marketing material. It was his first contact with the setting. First impressions matter. And she got a bad one.
Instead of just putting it down and going off to buy other stuff, she came here and asked about it. Which seems reasonable. What's the alternative? "This setting seems racist. I'd better buy a lot of its products to see."?
The final quote from the OP: "Maybe I'm wrong and there's more to Pathfrinder's setting than this. But if I am, then Paizo is doing itself a disservice by presenting it in this way."
That's hardly a wild accusation. Posters here have called her racist in far harsher terms than she ever used about Paizo.
Kirth Gersen wrote:
As a GM, I'm not great at improv. Espectially world building or large scale plot improv. Things take time to gel. If I had that conversation and hadn't already been thinking swashbuckly pirates, I'd probably reply: "Alright, give me a month or two and I'll see what I can come up with." By which time they'd probably be excited about something else.
Kirth Gersen wrote:
But that's not even a world creation thing. Or doesn't have to be.
It's just as easy to say, "There are pirates around, but you can't find any to hire for that job. Not at a price you can afford anyway." Possibly after playing out a bit of a search/negotiation.
If you're saying that the players should be able to define as they feel the need not only that there are pirates in the world, but that there are pirates close at hand willing to do the job the players want done, that's exactly the kind of thing I don't want as a player. I want a world that at least presents the illusion of being solid, not one where I make up stuff as I need it.
And frankly, as a GM, I don't want to have to remake the world everytime the players want to add something. If they ask about something, I can use my greater knowledge of the world to decide if it fits or not.
Kirth Gersen wrote:
Sure, but the players' agency is already fairly limited, compared to the designers' and DM's. When you start impinging on that still further without very good reason, the extent to which they are allowed "any agency whatsoever" can quickly become small enough to be statistically identical to "zero."
Maybe it's just me, but I'm so much more interested in players' agency when it comes to playing the game than in agency when building characters. If my character has freedom to do interesting things and make meaningful choices in play, I can do without a whole lot of choices in character design, much less in designing the world he's living in.
Making up things about the world actually pulls me out of character, especially if it's being done in play.
It astounds me that people who let the players have no agency actually still have players.
There is a huge difference between "It's my campaign world" and "the players have no agency".
As a player, I prefer it to be the GM's world. I prefer not to add much content to the world, other than some details for my own background, once I've gotten a general idea how it can fit in. I have plenty of agency. I control my character and how he interacts with PCs, NPCs, the world at large and the various plots he gets involved in determine how the campaign goes and potentially changes the campaign world, but not by making parts of it up or rewriting pieces of it, just by living in it.
TL/DR: The GM creating the world without much input from the players isn't even vaguely related to railroading.
And a lot of those early works have less fantasy races in them than Tolkien, at least as anything other than monsters.
Which is why I keep fighting for R.E.H. purity! Only humans. None of these weird Tolkien inspired races.
Well yeah. Can't really argue.Though I'd say it's more designed to at least keep Sam and Addie cared for while still being possible to pass. Let's be honest and admit that a system paid for healthcare with taxes on the rich wasn't going to happen. It was some hodgepodge like this or nothing.
I do think it would have been better to have had an actual singlepayer proposal on the table, just to have the debate and shift the Overton window a little bit, but I don't pretend it would have actually passed.
And what you describe is basically how all insurance works: Those who wind up not needing the payout, pay for those who don't. The larger the pool the better. The more narrowly risk groups can be defined the worse it is.
Yeah, that's pretty much it.
The problem with " Not paying any money at all towards health care out of taxes - because it's all private" is that it doesn't work. At least if you actually care about making sure your population gets health care. But we hold private health care as an ideal, so we try to keep that, but then use the government to shore up the gaps and it winds up being even more expensive.
Bill Dunn wrote:
Possible, I suppose, though a bit odd since he wouldn't be representative of the common population or of the area's theme.
I really can't tell from the image I can find. Anyone have a higher resolution one? I know there's one out there.
But that only works if encounter balance and player levels work the same in all playstyles.
I can't tell with the resolution of the image. Somewhere in the thread someone found a larger version of the map, but a quick skim through didn't turn it up.
I'd guess it's unlikely though. Numeria is mostly Kellid, not Mwangi. Picking one to represent it would be odd. And he really doesn't look the part.
The pirate in the Sodden Lands may also be Mwangi, but it's hard to tell with the armor.
Pretty much what Joana said.The only position I'm really arguing here is that the OP's opinion, based on this particular poster map, is understandable and the OP does not have to be some horrible racist to have problems with that particular poster.
Nor, by the way, does anyone who doesn't find the map problematic.
I know both Paizo and Golarion well enough to know that that particular map does not reflect any actual racist intent.
Wait, there aren't any Black people in central Garund? Where the hell did all the Mawangi go?
The M'wangi are still there.
There aren't any on the poster map that started this. Just a gorilla and a gnoll where you're expect them to be.
No one in this whole discussion has argued that Paizo is actually racist, just whether the OP is "the worst kind of racist" for thinking the map images are questionable.
Because who needs black people in fantasy, right?
But you're right in part. Talking gorillas are a draw and they belong in not-Africa. (Gnolls, meh, whatever.) Maybe they should replace all the European types in the north with cool non-humans.
It's also hard to imagine what a first impression would be like. You and I are both familiar with Paizo and Golarion. We know the setting has depth and we know that Paizo isn't racist. This is a poster, a marketing tool. It's going to be some people's first impression. That needs a little extra care.
I'll give the rebuttal that I and others used earlier, but I'm not going to get drawn further back into this:I don't think the OP looked at the gnoll or the gorilla and thought: Those remind me of black people. He looked at the map, saw the pattern that suggested Garund was an African analogue (which it blatantly is) and saw that the sub-Saharan analogue as represented by gnolls and gorillas and that black people were conspicuously absent.
That's not racism. That's drawing an obvious inference.
As more states expand Medicaid to cover the gap, that will help.
Though judging by past state level Medicaid expansions, we'll see increased usage and costs as pent-up demand is satisfied, much of it initially at the emergency room level, since we're dealing with a population that is used to having that as their only choice for healthcare.
Ashiel, you know you're responding to a post from last year. The OP isn't paying attention and you're making an argument that was already made over and over the first time around.
Of course if you're just trying to reignite the racism flamewar, please proceed.
Don't forget it's not just the kangaroos, it's everything Greenpeace does: sinking their own ships, controlling the IPCC to fool everyone into believing in global warming and thus somehow gain power and achieve some nebulous, but definitely bad, goal.
Vod Canockers wrote:
Actually, US deportations have been going up steadily. Obama has deported record numbers in his term.
He's just been focusing on those committing other crimes and doing a tough job of it.
No. Bombs are mixed and used as part of your attack action. They're not made and passed around.
Edit: Didn't even notice the forum. Sorry. I'm bored this evening and avoiding work I should be doing. The mods might move it.
Otherwise we could all delete our posts and see if that lets you delete it.
Vlad Koroboff wrote:
Yes, but is it the people that matter to Putin or the elites?Hurting their ability to make money hurts them. The World Cup doesn't.
And frankly it's not like elections in Russia really mean that much. It's easy enough to spin these things as Western aggression and even get a political boost out of it. Nothing like an outside enemy.
OTOH, hurting his political allies ability to travel and do business abroad, cutting their banking system off and freezing access to overseas assets: That he'll hear about.
Vlad Koroboff wrote:
Good. Glad you agree. Your last post said "short of nuclear threat", so I assumed.
I'm not sure the World Cup is more of a threat than some other things already on the table, but then I'm not much of a sports fan. It's also almost completely out of Obama's control.
As for more serious economic sanctions, I'm sure there's work being done on that. Unilateral US sanctions won't accomplish much and threatening larger ones without agreement from the other players isn't a good plan.
Vlad Koroboff wrote:
Because you believe that only military force can accomplish anything?
But then, threatening with nukes accomplishes absolutely nothing as well. Only if they give in is anything accomplished. It's the same with diplomatic moves.
Soft power matters. Diplomacy matters.
Little things like having a seat at the table where the economic powers that be plan the fate of the world (slight exaggeration) really do count. Joining the G8 was a big deal for Russia.
Well if we're going for Doom Patrol, Danny the Street was transvestite. But he was also, you know, a street, so I don't know if that counts.
There's also a longer history of gender switching or gender merged characters in comics. Starhawk of the original Guardians of the Galaxy was composed of Stakar and Aleta and would switch back into her form fairly regularly. That goes back to 75, I think. Not really the same thing, but a science fantasy take on the topic.
Nah, I like different races being actually different.
We'd have to have no small races too. I mean they could look small, but that would just be flavor.
Bill Lumberg wrote:
I skiied a lot in my childhood. I go skiing about once a year these days. It takes about a day for most of it to come back. Which it is kind of frustrating. I just start feeling competent and it's time to go.
Of course, the muscles don't come back that fast. There's usually some soreness the next few days.
Grey Lensman wrote:
From my perspective Obama looks weaker for making the threat, and then not being able to do anything than if he did nothing at all from the start.
And he is doing things. He's just not posturing about it.
But it sure would be great if we had a real manly man leader like Putin. A real Decider. Who stages shirtless horseback and tiger hunts photo-ops. <swoon>
Freehold DM wrote:
Only in retcon, IIRC.
Of course a worse starting attitude is really not that far from a -5 penalty and might be even worse.
A -5 on all checks vs starting at a worse attitude, which includes a +5 to the DC, but might also make rolls necessary when they wouldn't have been normally.
We just love the strong men don't we? All sorts of talk about how Putin has "stones" and Obama is wimp.As if this is just a big dick waving contest with no subtlety. Or consequences.
Obama "won't stand up to him" because he hasn't sent troops in or threatened to nuke Moscow. (Of course, when he does send troops or threatens to, he's a warmonger.)
This hasn't played out yet. Diplomacy and economic pressure isn't as emotionally satisfying to the chicken hawks as war is, but it can work and Obama's actually pretty good at, even if it doesn't play well to the bleachers. Russia's already taken a serious economic hit from this and the fallout hasn't ended yet. Its economy is far more linked to the rest of the world than it was back in the Soviet days. That means there's a whole lot more leverage.
Well, Frodo was supposed to be an exception, in that he was a scholar and an elf-friend and a bit adventurous, but that's hardly the common gaming halfling stereotype.
Gimli and Legolas were fairly typical examples of their race, though more heroic than most. The most exceptional thing about them other than that was their friendship. They weren't outcasts who'd rebelled against the traditions of their people or anything like that.
The overwhelming majority of mountain dwelling axe-wielding dwarves or forest living bow wielding elves in gaming are NPCs. The overwhelming majority of two-scimitar wielding surface dwelling outcast drow rangers are PCs. (Or at least were long enough for it to become a stereotype.)
The difference is that the rebel drow with scimitars wasn't supposed to be a standard example of his race. It only became so because D'rzzt was so popular.
That's not everyone playing the iconic/thematic version of that race, that's everyone copying a specific character who was supposed to be an exception.
The thematic Drow should really be a Machiavellian female cleric.
I think it's more that they're not really special or different.
The exotic races can be just as stereotypical as the classic ones.
There's "pick races for powergaming reasons" and then there's "deliberately pick race/class combinations to cripple yourself".
Maybe they pick a race they like, then pick a class that works well with it? But may still be weaker than a human or other core option.
OTOH, I do have a halfling barbarian, so what do I know.
Weighing more is generally good for swimming - not competitively, but you float better.
Matt Thomason wrote:
Fallen London had some awesome concepts and great flavor.
At higher levels it became too much of a grind fest for me, sadly. I should look back in on it sometime.
The '80s Rocket Raccoon miniseries is old favorite of mine. I read some of the original Guardians of the Galaxy stories, but nothing of the current team.
Yes! Join the Howard purists!Oust the Tolkien lovers with their weird races!
I've seen people go crazy about no guns, there are plenty of "Firearms don't fit" threads.
Orfamay Quest wrote:
Well, avoiding toxins is good plan.
The "detox" thing does smell of quackery though.