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Go Rogue/Paladin and take Shadowbane Inquisitor from Complete Rogue. It has everything you're looking for including the sneakiness in full plate stuff.


Since Mitra is confined to Talingarde for his worship, I would suggest that you create 3 avatars that represent each of his aspects. The three manifest after the princess, her mother, and the solar are defeated, and the ultimate fight for Talingarde begins. The best way to do this is to use Deities and Demigods from 3.5/3.0, and build a divine probably 8 to 10 rank deity with said abilities. Grant the PCs some mystic tiers to use or artifacts to use, since the DR on an avatar of divine rank 8 or 10 is going to be at least 20 epic, perhaps higher. You're looking at a CR 30+ encounter in any event. possibly higher. Probably 33 I think. For the example of a demigod, Cthulu from Bestiary 4 is one example. So are the higher end demon lords for just one avatar.


Also, inquisitor of Erastil. Or Cleric of Erastil. You may not have full BAB, but divine power will eventually take care of that for you and the judgements with bows are awesome.

For third party stuff, I recommend the marksman from Dreamscarred Presses's ultimate psionics. They're tailor made for it. Also stalkers using the Solar Winds path.


Racial HD/level=more feats, so yup, he has 3 feats. What I like is the fact that most of the party can fly, and that Hrrm is the only one of us who is humanoid.


Works for me. . The black blade upgrades my bonus as it goes up in level, so no harm no foul. Plus, based on the stuff I found on the bladebound magus, you can't upgrade the sword via item creation feats. Hence why the arcane pool allows you to do all sorts of qualities like flaming, axiomatic, etc.

As for other gear, I could use ioun stones, rings added to the pommel of the weapon, oils, etc. Unseen Servant makes carrying light bags and manipulating items for creatures with no hands easy. Also, floating disk. As an aside, since I can't heal normally, can I research the repair light, medium etc damage spells from WOTC's spell compendium? They're the equivalent of the cure wounds spells for constructs. Otherwise, we're going to have a lot of downtime with me in the smithy everywhere we go...


Bolt Ace gunslinger with crossbows or a homebrew variant for longbows/composite longbows/shortbows. You get a lot of the rogue dodge/evasion abilities at higher levels, rapid reload etc, as long as you maintain one point in your grit pool. Plus you can ignore AC in the first range increment for a crossbow, and add your Dex as damage to it. And you always have your crossbow loaded at any time. Of course, the reality of carrying around a loaded crossbow is a bit stretched, but it's fantasy. You can stock up on bandoliers or efficient quivers with a number of crossbows preloaded, including double, repeaters, hand, light and heavy. The rules even let you dual wield light repeating crossbows, from what I can tell.


How did that sheet look, Goldmyr?


Full character sheet and contribution sent in PM to you Goldmyr.


Lifespark works real close to the awaken construct spell, just with making mind affecting work plus spells that affect a soul (astral projection, soul bind, and the like). I'll go that route. I already take damage from positive energy (not that I think that's a big deal other than if we fight undead and I get hit by party clerics that don't take selective channeling or evil/neutral clerics start throwing heal spells at me), detect as undead, and take 50% more damage from electricity, but I also resist 10 points of anything. Those three penalties balance out the hardness and the damage sets etc. I'll still go black blade magus.


It's a web based suggestion for halflings. I figured playing the reverse with a halfing as the animal companion would be an interesting idea. I would call them Left for the awakened dire corgi cavalier and Right for the halfling animal companion. I can always swap the halfing for a human or a medium sized rider.

Nope scratch all of that.

I dub thee Stormbringer!

Haunted (takes damage from positive energy as undead and detects as undead), Conductive +50% more damage from electricty), Metal (hardness goes to 10, natural armor increases by 2), additional movement fly 20 feet, Animated Intelligent +1 Bastard Sword, using the rules for intelligent items, the variant awakened object spell from 3.5's Urban Druid/Spell Compendium or the 1st level black blade magus archetype as a start. It will take levels in magus as the black blade archetype, and I'll forgo the additional points that the blade gets in favor of the magus's pool once we get to 3rd level. I'll get the stats down in a second.

Story: Stormbringer is a weapon that has graced the pages of countless stories. It is that most perfect of ironies a malevolent being of Chaos bound in a metal straighjacket of Law, forged by servants of the Cosmic Balance. Like all blades, it cuts both left and right, forward and back, between Chaos and Law. Good and evil are relative to the side that is winning, but Chaos and Law determine how lives are led. The blade appears when one side is out of balance, usually at the hand of a Champion of the Balance who is dedicated to bring balance back to chaotic pulses of churning creation or overzealous law-abiding planes of nothing to judge. The grand irony of existence is that without Law to channel and/or challenge Chaos, Law has nothing to judge and Chaos has nothing to create. Deep in the halls of the lowest hells or on a high shelf in the greatest of the heavenly libraries, the Chronicle of the Black Blade waits for the daring, the desperate, or the depraved to be inspired or horrified by Stormbringer's many deeds.

The blade manifested in Pan's Wood, searching for a champion. Of course, irony being the call of the day in any fey wood, the blade instead found itself amongst a protected sylvan grove. Lacking any guidance, it offered itself to Dion as a protector, in return for the satyr's aid in giving it purpose. After all, what is a sword with no one to wield it, and no cause to champion? As sure as chaos is the nature of fey, some supernatural threat from Law or Chaos would appear to attack these woods, and when it came, Stormbringer would be there to forge a new legend.

OR, if that doesn't work, then I am the cast off intelligent spell book that Sykk picked up. I used to be an item familiar of a long-dead wizard, who created an intelligent spell book named Libram to keep and protect all of his greatest creations. However, Libram was stolen by wandering gypsies that plied the wizard with drugged ale, and taken off to be sold to disreputable foes that would pass the spells within as their own, thus increasing their status amongst the world's wizards. However, fate and the will of the book to be wielded by a worthy user being what they are, the book unlocked the chest it was in with a knock spell, create an unseen servant to pick it up and throw it out of the wagon, where it lay until a curious looking pseudodragon picked it up.

Animated awakened object, tiny, additional movement fly. It will take 2levels in either wizard or sorcerer, probably fire elemental school. http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/wizard/arcane-schools/paizo--- arcane-schools/elemental-arcane-schools/fire


Well the first two ideas I had are either too disgusting for most people to deal with or have too many insano spell like/psionic abilities for my tastes (giant hissing cockroach and psionic al'mi'raj (the unicorn rabbit)). This https://sites.google.com/site/pathfinderogc/bestiary/monster-listings/anima ls/dog/corgi-dire illustration here http://butterfrog.deviantart.com/art/Corgi-dire-149262275 Aka a dire corgi cavalier with a halfling as his mount. No not a halfling cavalier with a dire corgi mount, the other way around. Probably awakened, or I do have this set of third party rules that is designed for talking animals. http://paizo.com/products/btpy8d08?The-Noble-Wild-An-Animal-Player-s-Handbo ok-for-Fantasy-RolePlaying-Games I can make it available if needed.


I too would be interested, Goldmyr, if you are still looking for players. Are you doing PbP or real time?


Frankly I find customized summon lists to be more fun than the generic lists anyway, especially if you have a terrain specific druid archetype and so on. Why can't a druid summon up a treant at summon nature's ally 6th in place of a stone giant? Given a high enough level druid, a small copse or part of the forest becomes insanely nasty after the treants start animating all of the trees....


You could always rip out giants and swap in plant creatures. The Bestiaries have all sorts of CR appropriate creatures now, ranging from CR 5 to 13. AP 75 adds in giant flytraps and shambling mounds to summon monster 7 and 6 respectively.


http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/spells/shatter.html

Shatter tub, fighter is now accessible to spells and is covered in hot/lukewarm water. May have soap in eyes and be blinded.
If the fighter is smart enough to have an adamantium tub, you can disintegrate the tub and have the same result.

Or use resilient sphere to move said tub away towards the party and then end the spell. Telekinesis also works great for moving said tub.


Anyway, back to the thought experiment. If a 20th level human fighter is bathing without any gear or protective stuff, and gets attacked by a 10th level party, hopefully he has high enough initiative to get out another door. If he built a bathroom with only one door, then the 10th level party can kill him if they can target him with spells and get a martial in said room. If it's a 5x5 room, one martial, or a 10x10 room, then you can get two martials and a spell tosser in . Average will saves will probably be a +7 or 8 from Wisdom, so a hold monster at DC 20 (assuming no spell focus in enchantment) has a 65% to 60% chance of hitting on the first try. Coup de grace a couple of times and he's dead. This is pretty much true of any 20th level martial (sans spellcasting types like rangers, paladins, bloodragers), though barbs could rage if they weren't surprised and jump the Will save up a bit more.


Nor should it be. However, that's all I ever see people designing martial types around. Whether a summoner synthesist build, a pouncing barbarian with lion totem, or the paladin two-hander power attack, the fighter gets left out in the cold. A fighter can do just about all of those, and if you use tactics combined with a good set of feats, then you can defeat the enemy with both your DPR and your skills.

Apparently I must have different experiences than a lot of the board, because the fighters in any game I have played did extremely well, no matter what they chose as a focus. Roleplaying a tactician or a lore warden is a lot of fun, or as the face of the group via intimidate/etc.
Of course what I find funny is when people complain about granting spell-like abilities to martial types as being somehow bad, since it means they're intruding on the oh so sacred ground of casters.


A lot of that is due to the argument that fighters aren't fun to play or become a secondary since the large majority of classes are spellcasters or have spellcasting plus other special abilities built into them. I'm not quite sure when fighters became a bad option to play, since they are as varied as spellcasters can be when it comes to options. ESPECIALLY when you compare them to 1st and 2nd Ed fighters. Combat feats run the gamut and fighters can use any of them, from fighting styles to improved disarm and the like. DPS seems to be the only measure the forums take for any type of build, not maneuver or specialty weapon builds at all. Optimization is the rule of the day, I guess. Maybe they should create an optimization sub-board and peel it off from the advice board, since so many people ask what they should do to get the biggest oomph for their buck.


Slayer makes sense. So would the Inquisitor, since its designed to hunt down monsters. The Also, do research on the Knights Templar and the Hashashin (sp?), since these are the historical organizations the Assassin's Creed series draws from. The Knights Templar should have sub-orders based on the different types of lycanthropes. If it's set in a Arabian themed land, the character should also get contracts to perform various tasks in and out of a large city. Assassination, recovery of lost tomes of lore, etc. The battle between the assassins and the knights should involve a lot of skullduggery, and the Knight commanders should be infected or full blooded natural lycanthrope paladins, cavaliers, or even druids. Lower ranking knights are skinwalkers, etc.


Monk/Investigator would also work nicely. Inquisitor fits the demon hunter to a t (minus the trap abilities), especially if he takes two weapon fighting and dual wields crossbows as above. Dip in a level of fighter or two to get Crossbow mastery/rapid reload, and you can drop your judgements on your dual light crossbows to spread your hate to the masses.

As for the Diablo wizard, it's a blaster style caster with a couple of defensive magics. Arcane or Destined Bloodline sorcerer would fit best, tapping in spells like chain lightning, mirror image, polar ray, etc. Add in metamagic feats like chain spell, repeating spell, that sort of thing to duplicate the modifications you get as you go up in level in the wizard.


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You could always just put reach back in on any games that you run for the spiked chain. I doubt the chain is going to make a whole lot of difference anyway.


Sorry, edition issues. The new succor is http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/r/refuge Refuge. So he breaks that and goes poofy.

Unless the party has a dimensional anchor spell ready, then even with rocket tag the fighter should be able to escape.


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Simple. The 20th level fighter, always expecting an attack from silly minions and people in his bath, reaches for a statue and breaks it with his hand. Succor back to his 20th level cleric's friend home, where his cleric friend uses sending to his wizard friend. The wizard friend uses instant summons from the Leomund's chest they store multiple sets of gear on to don his armor. The 20th level cleric goes discern location, casts greater planar binding to add in a planetar/greater demon/etc, and they all teleport to the enemy's location while the 10th level party either makes tracks after realizing their foe has disappeared, and then dies when the four man crew comes to kill them. Also, see the plate armor amulet thingy that you can wear around your neck that creates a suit of full plate, plus I'm sure there is a charm bracelet of insta-weapon or something that disguises itself as a bath brush.

Contingency works really well in these situations.... Or even bring back the 9th level variant chain contingency from 2nd Ed, where you could chain 3 spells together.


Not to be an old henpeck, but is that 7 turns=Pathfinder rounds, so 42 seconds, or 7 turns=1st/2nd Ed turns so 70 minutes?


Are we still on, or waiting for another player?


Thanks a lot for the quick replies all. I appreciate it. I wanted to check on both before I embark on a conversion for the 3.0 book of magic that Bastion released many years ago. The rune magic was a fun concept that I wanted to see recreated.


Already sent.


https://sites.google.com/site/eberronpathfinder/

This may help. It's one of the better conversions of Pathfinder to Eberron. Given the background of the Silver Flame, they're anti-lycanthrope and evil outsider based. A multi-classed inquisitor/paladin would work nicely, as well as a paladin of the holy light archetype.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/paladin/archetypes/paizo---pal adin-archetypes/warrior-of-the-holy-light. Any light created by the paladin shows as a silver flame (for the effect), plus they take their divine bond as a modification to their weapon, rather than the pokemount. Use flaming, bane vs lycanthropes, grayflame, bane vs evil outsiders, bane vs undead, etc. You lose spell casting and the ability to use spell trigger items, but the holy light is a nice bonus overall. I would probably add in grayflame as a suggestion to expand out the selection a paladin of the silver flame gets.

Or potentially an Oathbound paladin with Oaths against Fiends, a variant oath that gives bonuses vs evil lycanthropes, and an Oath vs the Undead. They all add spells to the paladin's list and some variant abilities. Go forth and smite yon enemy!


A) Did Bastion Press survive the change over to 3.5/4.0/5.0, or is anyone converting over their stuff as a third party PDF?

B)Does anyone plan to Pathfinderize the wayward stepchild of the Tome of Magic, the shadowcaster?


I would say that it needs to have a bloodline associated with whatever star they get their inspiration from. It's an astrology based sorcerer drawing on the three wise men in the Bible (even if they did get there after Jesus was born, but hey, everyone can give a little for Christmas) specifically, and Babylonian magi in general, since arcane magic is somewhat limited in the Testament setting. So you need to know what constellations are used in the universe this sorcerer is going into, and then associate it that way. In addition, the lore pilgrimage should be changed to state that the magus of the starry host gains either a spell, 4+Int bonus skill points that the magus can't use to raise any skill above his class level, or a bonus metamagic feat. They also gain access to any spells from the Heaven Domain as arcane magic. They should probably lose the ability to get a familiar and normal spell acquisition if you're really set on using the pilgrimages as the method they use to acquire magic.

Skills should be 2{+Int), and should be Craft Alchemy, Diplomacy, Knowledge (any), Profession, and Spellcraft. HP should be the standard 1d6 for wiz/sorc classes. Add in knowledge mathematics and Knowledge Astrology as new Knowledge skills. Also, you may want to modify the weapons if they are coming from a Persian culture, since if the magi are noblemen, they may have learned other weapons other than the typical club, dagger and quarterstaff.


What? A lich is a base CR of 12, and even if it's Vordakai the Cyclops lich you encounter later, he's a CR 12 without phylactery. An adult green dragon is also CR 12.

1) How many PCs do you have?
2) How were they created? Is it standard 20 point buy, higher point buy, rolled stats?
3)The encounter tables in Kingmaker do skew higher then the normal tables due to the nature of the game (trolls on the level 1-4 chart), but any GM should look at the random encounter table and if they get one that is beyond the party, it should go out the door. An adult green dragon is a challenge for even 8th level optimized characters.
4) Will o the wisps are a pain in the but for most people. That area is designed as a no go zone for PCs until they can get enough kingdom stuff online to go clear them out.
5) A marut? Even a group of mystic 5th level PCs would have problems with a marut. Unless you had 12 5th level PCs equipped with chaotically aligned weapons that could blitz him before he unleashes his chain lightning and turns you into ash, that ain't going to happen.

6) You really, really, really need to bring this to the attention of the other players and the DM/GM. The GM is either really inexperienced, on a power trip, or likes to see you suffer, and none of those are good things to keep a game going.


Scail's reason would be divinely inspired. Only her people should be able to conquer the world, not an upstart kingdom that has no divine guidance or respect for the dark. A mission from her goddess to demand the king's head would be an excellent start on her rise in the church of the Morrigan.


Well after some review, unfortunately I will not be able to run anymore on Tuesdays. Work keeps having me stay over to help out other techs with various technical issues, and that shows no sign of stopping. I do have Fridays open, and 3 Saturdays a month open as well. If you would like to move the game to one of those nights, that can be easily done. Also Saturday during the day and night are open.


They're just aspects of the Morrigan, similar to how God is called the Holy Spirit and/or Christ is part of the triumvirate for the greater whole of the Christian version of the Abrahamic/Judeo-Christian god. For example, Zeus had many names and titles such as the Lord of Olympus, Zeus Trithereon, and so on. In Pathfinder, Gozreh is a dual natured god/goddess of fire and earth, and water and air.

Scail is Gaelic for shadow. It fits as a name for a group of matriarchal based Celts that sojourned to the Plane of Shadow. I'll probably use the variant channeling rules from Ultimate Magic for the Darkness Domain, which only does half the usual damage but allows me to drop light conditions down in the area by 1 step or more based on my class levels. Good for stealth and enabling the ability to see in darkness. So a couple of other questions?

Where are we starting? Underground, in a tavern, in a bunker, as prisoners, running from the law? And why are we meeting? Who are the major heroes that opposed us? What are we going to be doing?


I might tap in a specialized summoning list for the Morrigan as well, based on creatures of shadow, etc.


http://www.novareinna.com/guard/morrigan.html

I present my submission for an evil, though necessary goddess, the Morrigan. She is the Celtic goddess of fate, war, death, night, and witches (as per traditional and NeoPagan practices of witchcraft, not satanic). She also represents the Crone aspect of the Triumvirate that all women go through (Maiden, Mother, Crone), and the 4th aspect of Warrior, especially in cultures that have a heavy influence of war maidens. Her favored symbol is the raven, and she is also the goddess of rivers, fresh water, and battle frenzy.

She often manifests as a banshee in the form of Neam, representing the terror and frenzy of war, Badb Catha, the battle crow who harvests the souls of the dead and selects those who will succeed in warfare, and Macha, the plain, as in the sovereignty of kings and land.

AL NE (Could be argued that she is CN given the rather chaotic nature of warfare, but neutral evil works as well)
Domains Darkness (Subdomain Night), Luck (Subdomain Fate), Madness (Subdomain Insanity), Nobility (Subdomains Aristocracy, Leadership), War (Subdomains Blood and Tactics), and Water (Subdomain Rivers)

Favored Weapon Longsword (Celts were horse cavalry and sword specialists, plus the sword represents the weapon of the noble warrior)

Character Bio
Name Scail
Race Fetchling
Class Cleric
Domains Night (subdomain of darkness) and War

Bio: Scail was born on the plane of Shadow to a small cult of Morrigan worshippers. They celebrated her reign over night and the rememberance of her union with the plane of Shadow to produce her favored people, the People of the Shadow, or fetchlings. The cult leads their members in the belief that embracing the shadow is divine, and that when sunlight fades from the multiverse, the Shadow Plane and Morrigan will rise to rule over all. They expose infants to the areas that border old battlefields and terrible massacres on the shadow plane, hoping that the goddess will smile upon their newborn children and grant them victory over the foul power of the sun. If a child doesn't fade but instead retains their inner light, they are sacrificed in the name of the goddess and their essence bled into the plane. At a younge age Scail was found to be able to channel the fury and the wisdom of the goddess whispered in the echoes of the night. After learning the ways of the Babd Catha, Scail was sent to the material plane to gain experience in dealing with the foes of night, and to gather strength to spread the Morrigan's blessing of war, madness, and night to an unsuspecting world.


Ok. Sign me up as the evil cleric/druid/oracle dooby. What's the campaign environment like? Is the entire world under darkness or is it the typical patches of evil, good and neutrality? Do deities manifest themselves or do they just act through extraplanar minions and their priests?


Is your game still open Zmanpwnsdaleks? I would be interested since my in RL Pathfinder game is having problems meeting. I have one Pathfinder game on Tuesdays via Google Hangout/Roll20 and one Rifts game a month on Sundays, but that's it.

If we're looking at evil characters, then what gods are available? Normal Pathfinder/Golarion gods, one of your own choosing, one we design?


Cultists with daggers and no sneak attack or ability to enhance their damage are redundant after a couple of levels. That's just a chance for the PCs to show off killing mobs in an action sequence. Now if you have cultists like the ones in Rise of the Runelords: The Skinsaw murders, then it gets a bit more dicey since they are all cleric 2/rogue 2 I think. War razors with divine favor, bless and low-level negative channeling, plus sneak attack.


Having a shield has its benefits, as has been pointed out with the +50% bonus to AC, the shield bash chain of feats, the throwing shield with distance and returning as well as bashing or a shield as a weapon yada, yada for your Captain America types. DPS output is one way to eliminate your enemies, while battlefield control combined with DPS output combined with high end defense is your best method. That's why combined arms works really well in all combat situations.

As for shield buffs, this is a nice one to use when you hit 7th level as a cleric, magus, etc. http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/w/ward-shield


So is everyone on still for this game on Tuesday? Or have we lost faith in me since we had a short session one week and missed two weeks? Thanks for your patience and help.


No. They're not. I have to stay over again because of another tech so I have to cancel. I'm sorry. We will play again Tuesday without interruption or weather or anything else interfering. Sorry again.


The best equivalent I can think off for a cheap Shillelagh item is a charged +1 quarterstaff (2,000 or 1,000 with Master Craftsman standard featage for the weapon), and 750 or so for a 50 charge wand equivalent of shillelagh similar to a ring of the ram or a wondrous item with charges. Or buy lots of oil of shillelagh (or soap of the shillelagh Oh wonderful clean Irish Spring!).


I'm going to go off the deepend here, and actually suggest fighter. I know, I know, shocking with all of the cleric/monk/magus/brawler/druid spellcastery types out here. If you don't want spellcasting, this can be a fun route to take. Take the two weapon warrior archetype as a human (to get the extra feat and a +2 to strength), use said extra feat on quarterstaff master, the other two you get on two-weapon fighting and weapon focus quarterstaff. Then take combat expertise, improved trip, greater improved trip, weapon specialization quarterstaff, improved two-weapon fighting, improved critical, double slice (this can come before combat expertise if you want full damage on both ends), tripping staff, two-weapon rend, tripping strike, maybe lunge and if PFS goes up to 12th level (I can never remember if it does or goes only to 11th), than improved disarm. That gives you a +3 to attack and a +4 to damage not counting str or magic weapon damage, trips on any critical hit plus trips on regular hits or full attacks, or all around you, plus the ability to do double strike when you have to advance on enemy and can't do a full attack action. Also with improved hand, you can wield two quarter staves as two double weapons, one in each hand, since quarterstaff master lets you wield a quarterstaff in one hand.


Must get conversion. Could you post a link to version 23 for a poor GM that so wants a pathfinderized variant on one of my favorite 3.0/3.5 books. I can see my Way of the Wicked Players being interested in devil PCs...


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If you were running in one of my campaigns, sure. I've had ghaele eladrins, dragons, centaurs, pegataurs (back in 2nd ed when the Complete Humanoid Handbook was the bomb), intelligent magic items that possess their wielder and use him or her as a set of arms, etc, using Savage Species, a variety of 3rd party books like In the Company of Giants or even older rules. Is your PC going to be powerful? Yup. Should you play this in a standard point-buy game? Nope. It will cause a lot of jealousy and anger amongst standard groups, especially ones that don't have ultra optimal min/max super duper Pathfinder specialization web search fu as a default skill.

Here is the other question you want to ask. Why do you want to play a lillend beyond the OMG it looks cool factor? A nagaji bard with an alternate race trait that makes their legs into a snake torso (knocks land speed down to 20 feet) and gets wings of flying can do the same thing. You don't get the super high DR, but it covers most of the rest pretty easily. And realize that the lillend as it fits in Pathfinder also has the spellcasting and bardic performance of a 7th level bard + whatever other class abilities you took. Lastly realize the more monstrous of a character you play, the harder it is to deal with a human dominated society. In Golarion/Toril/Oerth, a city like Absalom/Waterdeep/Greyhawk probably isn't going to look twice a lillend with a bunch of adventurers, but wandering through the backwaters of Varisia/Cormyr/the Grand Duchy of Urnst is going to disturb a lot of people. Your character will have to deal with young scamps coming up and saying "Snaky angel, can you bless my friend's mommy so he gets a sister?" or city guards whipping out swords, not to mention every good aligned priest will assume you are sent to aid them from the powers on high. I make my players aware of this whenever they choose to play a really non-standard race, like the above.


Amusing. Effectively you're using three feats to learn how to stab someone with a longsword. I can see a weaponmaster now: Yes Jimmy, swords have pointy ends, but you can't use them to stab the other man. You have to wait until you reach 3rd level so then you can learn how to put the pointy end into the other man. How do you know if you've reached third level? A magic bell will appear above your character and lights will flash all around you, with a magic bubble of text above you saying you're 3rd level. The gods are indeed mysterious, Jimmy. Wait until you have to learn how to swing a weapon really hard. You'll have to wait until you're 4th level to do that!


Well the God/Yehovah of the Old Testament was a god of laws and tests more so then the New Testament version God who changed his/her/its ways from hardcore tests to more understanding with the New Covenant with man and Christ, but that's beside the point. Abadar immediately comes to mind, especially given the fact that he is the god of judges, law, and civilization. He may be LN, but his priests can be LG as well. I can see him giving this type of command as a test of whether his priests/worshippers can interpret a just command or law. The test is a matter of reason, faith and emotion, just like it was for Isaac.

Also, for another example of this play in motion, read the analysis of Sol Weintraub the Wandering Jew from the Hyperion Cantos by Dan Simmons. It's the exact same test you are looking for basing a story on.
http://www.shmoop.com/hyperion/sol-weintraub.html


Sorry guys. My browser broke and I had to fix it around 8:00. We should be set to run next week without any interruptions at all.


Yup we are still on for tomorrow.

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