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Have you guys thought about making a set for modern or even futuristic items? I would love some guns and ammo cards among other things.

On a semi-unrelated note, I just got my Dragon's Trove, Rise of the Runelords, Adventure Gear, Elements of Power, and Item Pack 1. Beautifully rendered artwork, very high quality cards, and very unique design for the items. I have more items than I know what to do with. I only wish they'd do modern items and weapons.

Tatterdemalion wrote:

Cory Stafford 29 wrote:

...but I still wouldn't stoop to using illegal downloads.

How about other people's illegal downloads? :P

Thats cool because then its not illegal because I had the book at one time but it spontaneously combusted during the solar eclipse. Plus, in the utopian disporia of the pseudo-stealiophile society of the once bitten twice shy sub-gynarchy of Woo the ethics of the populace are directly inverse of the moral ramifications of goat sucking. Most people incorrectly assume that the money that I could have had in place of the money that you should have given to me i worth the direct proportion to the fact that this thread has turned to a sleep inducing speal of magnanimous proportions which may or may not (maybe?) might have been interesting at one time.

LOL

Wow.

This thread is getting boring FAST.

You're right. I say we go back to the more fun argument of whether Half-Orcs are catalytic converters and Elves come with full power train warranty.

Yeah, we've got some serious threadjacking going on. Save the talk about illegal downloads for another thread please? Yes, it's stealing,and stealing is wrong. People are still going to do it because lots of people place their personal desires over ethics. I may not agree with core material being on subscription only DDI, but I still wouldn't stoop to using illegal downloads.

Whatever floats your boat, tiger.

sandwiches wrote:

Breaking the law is not always unethical unless the majority of people think it's wrong. Ethics of the people, morality of the individual.

If there is a law against it then the people have decided it to be unethical.

I guess we're talking about Utopia where demos actually make the laws.

sandwiches wrote:

However, you'll have a hard time convincing everyone that downloading music through bit torrent is stealing. Otherwise, the music industry as we know it wouldn't be going down the drain, right now.

You are right, the music industry is in the decline because so many people are stealing their music.

I thought we were in Utopia where people make the laws. If the people dislike paying for music whether you incorrectly think it's stealing or not, it won't happen.

By the way, it's not stealing when you still have the original copy and you incurred no direct loss. It's called making a copy. Much the same way I cannot steal an idea or steal the words to a song. It may be plagiarism or illegal but stealing it is not. I'm sure like the RIAA, you'll say it is but I guess everyone's entitled to be wrong. The amount of money they "could've would've should've" made if I hadn't made a copy of their data is not a loss. To say it is, it's pure conjecture and speculation based on some imaginary scenario that in no way can be asserted as what would've happened had I not copied their data.

sandwiches wrote:

Just remember that breaking the law is not necessarily unethical or immoral.

Breaking the law is always unethical but not always immoral.

I know that the outlook on laws changes but frankly - stealing is stealing.

Breaking the law is not always unethical unless the majority of people think it's wrong. Ethics of the people, morality of the individual.

Stealing is stealing and a wheel is a wheel and a mountain is a mountain. However, you'll have a hard time convincing everyone that downloading music through bit torrent is stealing. Otherwise, the music industry as we know it wouldn't be going down the drain, right now.

Razz wrote:

crosswiredmind wrote:

sandwiches wrote:

Not to sound like a complete unethical sob...

Too late - stealing is stealing.

And WotC stole the soul of a wonderful hobby from me, because if I ever do decide to try out 4E with my players, I sure as hell am not spending another $2000, that's for damn sure.

So you justify breaking the law because a company changed a game you like to play ... you know a hobby. It is this kind of irrational statement that makes the haters look bad.

Just remember that breaking the law is not necessarily unethical or immoral. Specially when in this generation the morality of information "piracy" is changing rapidly. I wonder how the kids who are now used to downloading every song, book, picture, game, etc for free will behave as adults.

I just bought about $55 worth of Paizo's item cards and other crap through dicepool (sorry guys, but it was cheaper) and I will gladly shell out more cash for more quality material from them. However, the growing population of "pirates" is a reality and I'm not sure how companies that rely on merely selling information will survive. Selling a physical product is not the same as selling information, whether we want to accept it or not. Now, whether you or I think downloading information without paying for it is right or wrong is not what's at issue here. The real problem is that more and more people are finding it unjust, unfair, or merely unnecessary to pay for merely information.

Well Richard Baker has stated that half-orcs as a PC race will be in D&D Insider shortly after 4E is released. So much for it not being necessary to play the game. So, to play a half-orc I have to buy the core books and have a DDI subscription. Hey WotC, how much does it cost to play a gnome, or goblin? Once again, WotC's naked greed rears its ugly head.

Not to sound like a complete unethical sob, but don't worry. Like everything else that can be scanned, copied, burned, ripped, cracked, stolen, retyped, and downloaded all the information from DDI will end up as a bit torrent. Just give it time.