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The weirdest outfall of all of this is hearing conservative republicans rail against judicial power and talk about overturning Marbury v. Madison (something I think might be a good idea; the power of judicial review ought to be more spelled out and a proper petition process in place) and lawmakers such as in Utah want to take their ball and go home, taking government out of the marriage game altogether. Which I also agree with. It's a personal and religious ceremony. The government has NO business saying who can and can't get married. Who enters into a civil union, on the other hand...


Dual-Cursed Life Oracle with Fey Foundling.
Possibly the best healer in the game, and doesn't waste their spells or actions to do it.


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Atarlost wrote:
Ipslore the Red wrote:
Loads of options for builds and it's got all that full-caster goodness. It's pretty nearly impossible to make an oracle that's actually bad, and only moderately difficult to make one good at a specific concept.
Really? They're a spontaneous caster. All you have to do is not take the right spells and you're useless. There are a number of curses that will completely wreck your character if they're enforced.

Pro Tip 1: Don't take the wrong spells.

Pro Tip 2: Don't take the bad curses.

I mean, this is like arguing that the fighter is awful at dealing damage because he could spend every feat on Skill Focus. Don't do that.


^^^What she said.

But I dunno, man, Bruce Jenner was a weird looking old man.

Caitlyn Jenner is a weird looking old lady.


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Kalindlara wrote:
meatrace wrote:

Those flying medusa heads from Castlevania.

F$%@ those guys!
*dramatic sting*

Yeah I know, but those things aren't nearly as bad as the CV ones.

If they had an AC of 24 and automatically paralyzed on a touch attack then maybe they'd be close. Also paralysis is 1d4 rounds and they hunt in packs of 2d6.


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Those flying medusa heads from Castlevania.
F&~+ those guys!


Tacticslion wrote:
(But, uh, peanut butter M&Ms are just about the best.)

Ok, but what's better, Reese's Pieces or PB M&Ms?


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Hey TL, it sure would be neat if you favorited all my posts.


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The 8th Dwarf wrote:

I have been binge watching Community and Abed is always eating buttered noodles...I was also reading a food blog about bad customers and people kept complaining about people that ate buttered noodles. I checked out Google and buttered noodles appears to be just butter and noodles. ... Is just throwing a bucket load of butter in noodles a main meal in the U.S.?

I had imagined it to be something like butter chicken....

The Italian deli I used to work at has buttered noodles on the menu, but it's REALLY garlicky garlic butter, and you typically put a ton of parmesan on it and eat it with a hot sausage. Good eats!


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Oops!


Damn dude, your dice suck!


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Freehold DM wrote:
out on bail, cops fire back regarding Gray's knife

That's like epically missing the point.

DA: "We contend that the police arrested Gray illegitimately then proceeded to beat him so severely it broke his spine which eventually lead to his death."

COP: "That is a HORRIFIC, slanderous LIE. I did nothing of the sort!
It was a legitimate arrest ."


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Rynjin wrote:

Obviously we're going to have to agree to disagree on this.

I think the protection of other people's property (and welfare, though as of YET nobody has been hurt) is more important than you being able to continue protesting all through the night.

I certainly think it's a better alternative than coming in with teargas and billy clubs to arrest large groups of people at once.

You disagree.

You're being disingenuous.

In all cases that I've seen, riots form from protests AFTER police are called in in riot gear. They escalate. Sure, maybe there's some excess littering or traffic is inconvenienced or even a rare car bashed up, but it doesn't warrant ESCALATING the situation with police violence.

You'll note that the curfew doesn't just affect protesters. You're abridging individuals' rights because of what someone else has done. Unacceptable.


"I put on my robe and wizard hat."


This is just so wrong it's comical.


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Lord Snow wrote:

Not really. Both liberalism and conservatism are theories, a way to look at the world. Either could be implemented in different ways - as an extreme example, fascism is an implementation of conservatism and communism is an implementation of liberalism. They both ended up looking remarkably similar back there in the previous century.

I mean, the names are just labels plastered over incredibly broad arrays of approaches to a vast number of subjects that sometimes interlock and sometimes don't.

In either case, it is borderline absurd to claim that conservatism is more grounded in reality than liberalism is. Do conservatives unanimously have more experience than liberals? since both camps are so broad that it is virtually impossible that one is on average...

You've earned the following achievements: Epistemic Nihilism, Missing the Point Entirely and Interpreting Something to Mean the Opposite.

You'll notice that nowhere in my post did I mention liberalism. I'm not making this statement on some fictitious scale of left vs. right, nor am I talking about the British conservative party, or Israeli conservative party. I thought it was pretty clear from context I was talking about American politics.

Also, I'm saying that CONSERVATISM is unempirical. I'm not sure how you even misinterpreted that.

Conservatives in America, aside from being decidedly anti-science, like to make big bold claims about what will happen if we do X, Y or Z. Then, when that outcome fails to appear, they refuse to admit they were wrong and instead invent a new bugaboo. Sometimes they just keep beating a dead horse (Obamacare is bad, mmkay? What's that? You LIKE your insurance?).

Beyond that, though, progressive policies have a transparent end goal: improve the quality of life of our citizens. This is something that is testable. "Liberal" policies are based on science, social science, and math, given that the goal of government should be to work on behalf of and for the benefit of its citizens.

Conservative ideology is either purely reactionary (social conservatism, which I don't think there's a place for anymore) or based on debunked economic theories (for the most part) which are themselves unempirical (i.e. Mises, Hayek, et al). The only reasoning they can provide for these policies is nebulous ideas like natural rights.

Property rights say that if you own something legitimately no one can tell you what to do with it, and that you can transfer it to someone else.

Someone like myself might say "well, hang on, that just gives rationale to pollution. property isn't as delineated as we'd like and there are externalities. Furthermore, allowing someone to transfer their own property without regulation leads inexorably to the accumulation of wealth among a chosen few. Money is power, and power corrupts; the first priority of those in power is to stay in power. Without a check on this accumulation it leads to an oligarchy (or even aristocracy). Maybe we should enact policies that prevent that from happening."

Conservatives: "STOP TRYING TO ABRIDGE MY RIGHTS YOU COMMIE!"

Politics is a lot like systems design. Garbage in garbage out.


Lord Snow wrote:
Quote:
The fact that I have a right to life does not require you to feed me. As originally understood, if I had a "right" to demand food from you, you would effectively be my slave with your liberty and property being at least partially infringed by your duty of having to supply my food on demand. How then, do I get fed? I either grow the food myself, practice some sort of trade that will enable me to make money so I can buy food, or as a last resort depend on charity. Charity back in the day was the province of the family and the church. Government was neither seen as nor intended to be the "charity" of last resort.

The great part about progress is that we can grow past earlier concepts into later concepts the evolved from them. With time, and with mankind's improved capacities thanks to technology, many things that were once true no longer are.

We accumulated knowledge, we constructed more sophisticated structures of thought and layered them on the foundations prior generations lay for us.

In other words, rights are a great ideal, but they're not based in empiricism.

This just sort of reinforces my idea of political conservatism as theorycrafting vs. play experience.


Rynjin wrote:
meatrace wrote:
Rynjin wrote:
Glad I moved back to Florida.
You win the prize for creating a sentence never thought or uttered by another human being before you. Congrats!

Heh.

Seriously though, Florida may have a bad rap because of all the weird s~#! that goes down, but the state's not a bad place to live at all.

Just like anywhere you have to filter out a lot of people you don't want to meet, but it's a nice place to call home.

Plus, we don't have as much of an alligator problem any more. Those new pythons are eating them all!

Well if you like it that's all that matters I guess. Thing is, even before Gov. Voldemort Florida has been bass ackwards in nearly all regards. Did you know they're not required to teach history before WWII in public schools? That's f@!~ed up.

But as someone who does his best to avoid sunlight and prefers more moderate temperatures, there's nothing to recommend Florida as a place to live. I think we should give it back to the Spanish and be done with it.


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Irontruth wrote:
I've never heard a conservative talk about police/fire unions, other than in a specific context (like a mayor of a city in the middle of negotiations). They seem to mostly pretend that those unions don't exist, instead focusing on similar language that they use to describe the military (brave men and women, honor, duty, etc).

Here in Wisconsin, when they were crafting Act 10 the union busting bill from a few years back, they specifically exempted police and fire/rescue unions. When the next round of attacks came, they were exempted once again, and in fact the police were given raises rather than cuts.

To conservatives, property "rights">human rights in all cases.


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Cthulhu automatically wins because Gojira is fictional.


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Rynjin wrote:
Glad I moved back to Florida.

You win the prize for creating a sentence never thought or uttered by another human being before you. Congrats!


Second!


Oh man.
This guy sure did go through a lot of trouble writing a long post for nothing.

Let's keep commenting on it so that his shame will never die!


Yeah, it's an anice flavored candy basically.
I love licorice. I tend to have a strong preference for natural sweet flavors (licorice, vanilla, chocolate, root beer, mint) as opposed to some new flavor cooked up in a lab.


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I think the right answer is "Stop asking questions and keep digging"


Like, 48 hours?
But what do those buried people care, they're dead! (I hope)


Cyrad wrote:
I'm having trouble finding exactly where in this law that allows a person to discriminate someone on basis of religion. All it says that a government cannot "burden" a person or organization's ability to exercise their religion. The law only seems to concern government entities affecting how people exercise their religion, not private businesses.

The government can't "burden" a business by curtailing that business's right to exercise its religion.


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Aranna wrote:
Paladin of Baha-who? wrote:

The purpose of the law is twofold: to override and eliminate the laws passed by individual counties and municipalities in Indiana that have added sexual orientation as a protected class on which basis it is illegal to discriminate; and to make a political statement that gays are bad mmmkay.

All these people arguing that businesses should have the right to discriminate: I'm guessing you've never been discriminated against for your race, sexual orientation, or religion. It's not just a matter of "oh well, whatever". It's really dehumanizing.

That is not the purpose of the law, someone already explained the history of the law, stop trying to be trollish.

And since you asked I face sexism all the time, and occasionally attacks on my religion as well. If you want to factionalize the country into protected groups fine but don't complain when religion gets protected as well.

Religion isn't being protected. Nothing is keeping these people from exercising their religion. Refusing service to someone has nothing to do with their religion; show me where in the Bible/Koran/Torah it says "thou shalt not make cakes for homos, for they art icky."

And also, this is plainly and obviously the purpose of this law: to override local/county laws that provide protections for such people and to pander to the Republican base aka homophobic bigots.


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So here's my proposed solution.
If you're part of a discriminated class, and a "private" business refuses you service, you should be able to get a refund on all taxes that go to fund that business, and its owner's services (post, road, police, fire/rescue, etc).

Of course, this will mean that the taxes will go up for everyone else, to make up the revenue. And since you can't tell if someone is gay by looking at them then, realistically, anyone could be discriminated against.

So, therefore, everyone EXCEPT these businesses should get a tax break, and the businesses should see a commensurate tax increase.

We can call it a Bigot Tax.


TriOmegaZero wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
What's wrong with phoenix, exactly?
We don't have winter. Ever.

I dunno, it was high 30s when I was there over xmas. Kinda chilly.

Which reminds me, I didn't know you were in the area or I'd have offered to buy you a beer or something when I was out there. (my mom lives in Phoenix, as do my aunt and grandmother).


Scythia wrote:
meatrace wrote:
bugleyman wrote:
thejeff wrote:
Admittedly we're mostly poking fun at the concept because the idea that we should all just learn medicine and not need hospitals is so insane.

"Need a heart bypass? Here's a mirror, bottle of alcohol, and a scalpel. Good luck."

Wait...are you gay? Give me back that scalpel!

Any excuse I can find to share this.
So so glad I read the url before I opened a new tab.

Give it a chance.

It's hilarious.


bugleyman wrote:
thejeff wrote:
Admittedly we're mostly poking fun at the concept because the idea that we should all just learn medicine and not need hospitals is so insane.

"Need a heart bypass? Here's a mirror, bottle of alcohol, and a scalpel. Good luck."

Wait...are you gay? Give me back that scalpel!

Any excuse I can find to share this.


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I prefer frozen custard. Vanilla.


Comrade Anklebiter wrote:
meatrace wrote:
Comrade Anklebiter wrote:
Like I take cool tips off of you.

Maybe you should.

Tip #1: Actual cool people don't brag about how cool they are.
From the Beats to the Velvet Underground: Bullshiznit.

Is there a VU song I'm not familiar with called "We're cooler than you c%+@s, so shut up"?


Comrade Anklebiter wrote:
Like I take cool tips off of you.

Maybe you should.

Tip #1: Actual cool people don't brag about how cool they are.


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Comrade Anklebiter wrote:

Pfft. I've been posting about The Wire my entire time here. Came up in the first politroll conversation I ever entered, back with Comrade Derek back in '0whatever.

As for Wire, the band, c'mon, Comrade Meatrace. I've got ten years working in used record stores under my belt.

I'm cooler than all of you!

Listening to Grateful Dead undoes all other cool you may have earned.


Krensky wrote:

Per his war stories, when asked why you can't divide a number by zero the response he got from someone applying to teach college mathematics was "Because it would anger the Math Gods." Not "it's undefined", not "you can't take X things and divide them into no piles". "Anger the Math Gods".

I'm amazed he doesn't drink more.

To be fair, that's what my friend tells his students, and he teaches AP Calc. Math teacher humor is an acquired taste.


houstonderek wrote:
meatrace wrote:

Or just make college free here to citizens and aliens alike, then you'll massively brain drain the rest of the world as all the smart folks come here.

Germany did something similar recently and I'm sure they're working the same strategy.

Germany is also very selective about who they admit into a regular university type setting. They don't let just anybody get free college. If you don't have the academic chops you don't get to go. Period. No remedial classes for illiterates in German universities. That seems to be an American thing exclusively.

Any halfway-decent school in the US is just as selective.

I mean, sure, any old boob can get into University of Nebraska at Bumf&$+, but you'll probably get about the same level of education as a community college.

I've never heard of classes for illiterates at university though, so you'll have to elucidate me.


Comrade Anklebiter wrote:
meatrace wrote:
Comrade Anklebiter wrote:

Me and Frank Subotka agree: Down with containerization!

Also, school sucks!

What? A Wire reference from the gobbo?

I'm impressed.
Possible Contender for Politroll Theme Song: The Musical Interlude

OK now you're linking me my favorite bands.

Seriously, are you, like, watching my every move?


Comrade Anklebiter wrote:

Me and Frank Subotka agree: Down with containerization!

Also, school sucks!

What? A Wire reference from the gobbo?

I'm impressed.


thejeff wrote:
Only if we stop the nonsense that standardized shipping containers were somehow the major breakthrough responsible for the modern world.

Agreed. Let's just agree that there is no SINGLE factor that everything can be pinned on.


thejeff wrote:
Orfamay Quest wrote:
thejeff wrote:
But if one makes the other possible, the growth following the second is still dependent on the first, even if the later spike is larger.
I don't see any reason to believe that "standardized shipping containers" are dependent upon oil or that oil somehow makes it possible to ship different goods in the same size and shaped containers.

Without the level of mechanization we've got, you're going to have to, at the very least use much smaller containers, since you'll have to maneuver them much more manually. Not much point in standard containers, if you're loading everything by hand, or manual windlasses.

Without oil to run your shipping, it's going to be slower, less reliable and on smaller ships.

It's going to be slower (actually not by that much) and on smaller ships THAN IT WOULD BE WITHOUT OIL. And you're more efficient with shipping containers THAN YOU WOULD BE WITHOUT THEM. However, the advent of standardized shipping containers (as well as other factors like communication/organization infrastructure) has had a larger magnitude of difference to efficiency than the change from pre to post petrolium.

And remember that we were using other kinds of oil, as well as other fossil fuels (natural gas, coal) before petroleum as well. In all likelihood, without the oil boom, technology would have simply made use of an alternate fuel source. Not as cheaply, for sure, but still.


thejeff wrote:
meatrace wrote:

Well, having just completed an upper level university course on international trade, I can tell you that the invention and use of the standardized shipping container made a larger difference than the discovery of petrolium for the shipping boom.

But I'm not sure what that has to do with free college?

Would the standardized shipping container be at all useful without all the rest of the oil powered infrastructure? With sailing ships (or even coal powered steamers)? Without cranes and other loading and unloading equipment?

Absolutely. Nonetheless you have to realize this isn't a binary thing where you can in any way separate the two issues, all you can do is statistical regression on shipping data from years before and after the advent of these advances (petroleum and shipping containers respectively) to determine what you're asking.


Well, having just completed an upper level university course on international trade, I can tell you that the invention and use of the standardized shipping container made a larger difference than the discovery of petrolium for the shipping boom.

But I'm not sure what that has to do with free college?


Problem lies between keyboard and chair.


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Artemis Moonstar wrote:
Now, I'm of the firm belief that there are a lot of people who are medicating when they really shouldn't need to. Around 70% of the population on some form of anti-depressant? Are you kidding me? Sounds like a bunch of people who can't deal with reality and want to spend time in happy la-la land.

I'm not going to scold you or anything, because I used to feel the same way, but now I'm on zoloft.

My parter of 10 1/2 years abruptly left me in the middle of the night with no warning and left me holding the bag on a myriad of things. I needed help. I'm dealing with reality, and I'm hardly in la-la land, I'm just not having the near daily panic attacks and breakdowns that typified the first 6-8 weeks after she left.


Seeing as this guy is a far-right libertarian/anarcho-capitalist, I see his assertion of mental illness as a sort of "poisoning the well" against otherwise rational arguments to the contrary.

For example, anarcho-capitalism requires that all actors are equally rational, and if it is possible that some people are, by their very nature, irrational, then it would fly in the face of AnCaps base assumptions.

Furthermore, if there's no such thing as mental illness, there's no rationale for the state to exact a lesser punishment against those with diminished facilities OR confiscate firearms/other dangerous weapons.


Or just make college free here to citizens and aliens alike, then you'll massively brain drain the rest of the world as all the smart folks come here.

Germany did something similar recently and I'm sure they're working the same strategy.


I don't disagree with what you're saying, MJ, but none of that even approaches the claim that mental illness doesn't EXIST.


I had honestly never run into this brand of nuttery until a couple days ago via a youtube post.

Hypothesis: There is no such thing as mental illness.

Now, I'd heard anti-psychiatry arguments, usually from Scientologists who are nakedly trying to sell their own brand of psychotherapy, and people who bring up the horrific history of psychiatry from lobotomy to electroshock therapy (these things can't be readily denied) but I had never heard anyone suggest that mental illness is, like, not a thing man. Especially in the face of modern neuroscience.

I guess having a girlfriend for over a decade with chronic, clinical depression caused by *gasp* neurotransmitter imbalance put me in a bubble of people actually affected by, and thus unable to blanket deny, mental illness.

TL;DR- Lolwut?

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