Auren "Rin" Cloudstrider wrote:we need a +Strength/+Dexterity Race with a Charisma Penalty and a +Strength/+Constitution Race with a Charisma penalty so we have decent martial races besides human because the human bonus feat is an advantage no race can compete with.Eh, the +5 to all saves against spells and SLA for dwarf disagrees with you.
And the alternate racial trait that gives +2 to will for half elves against anything also disagrees with you.
What? It is basically the same as iron will, and you can take iron will on top of it. That is about the equivalent of a feat. 12 wis/8 cha, and maybe a will save trait, and suddenly you make the wis based cleric look bad at early levels, and always leave room for the uninvested wizard to look bad at higher levels. With most martials, you only have to patch up their will saves for them to be effective.
But yeah, Paizo mostly seems obsessed with +Dex/+CHA/-WIS. I suppose it is fair enough. A bonus to most classes' dump stat allows you to dump it without becoming a neanderthal, the bonus to many classes' secondary stat with dex means you can skimp on points and still end up decently, and the penalty is not so bad when you saved up points in other places. It is a nice flexible set for anything that doesn't focus on wis.