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Andoran

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Kthulhu wrote:
Asphere wrote:
Javin Swifthand wrote:

To be honest

if a system works

and all the group enjoy it why change it????

There are different levels of enjoyment. They may enjoy something else even more.
There's also system burnout. If your group plays Pathfinder, always and only ever Pathfinder, it's sometimes a nice change of pace to play something different, whether it be Call of Cthulhu, Warhammer 40K, FATE, Swords & Wizardry, or BESM.

After 14 years I am definitely burned out on 3x, any version.

Andoran

Way too much expense for a niche hobby, I'm afraid.

Andoran

Good times. :-)

Andoran

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Zalman, that's my reason. I don't have a lot of prep time, and 3x/PF is too much of a time sink. I'm hopeful, from what I see so far, that prep time for 5e will be much shorter.

Andoran

Sissyl wrote:
Hee. I am with Rynjin here. Especially if they don't have the money.

I can safely say I'm not a fan of anything by that standard. I guess it's because I'm a father. If I don't have the money, no purchase, period ;-)

Andoran

Don Juan de Doodlebug wrote:

[Fingers his library card]

[Edited for Rynjin]

I don't even buy comic books any more. The downtown branch carries everything I want to read, which is currently the "Superior Spiderman" books. ;-)

Andoran

GreyWolfLord wrote:
houstonderek wrote:
MMCJawa wrote:

FYI...Lisa and Vic were actually in charging of figuring out what went wrong with TSR, and they have stated multiple times that splitting lines (as well as overinvestment in box sets?) was a contributing factor.

I dunno...I see what happened with TSR, and what happened with 4E, and the causal mechanisms behind any financial problems (which I don't really know the significance if any, for 4E) seem completely different. Companies/RPG industry do not have to obey lemming boom or bust cycles.

Yeah, TSR was splitting the market in house, between, say, FR fans and Ravenloft. Almost all were playing AD&D or BECMI or something that TSR published to run them.

4e (and WotC) split the market, but another company was getting the customers that didn't want to play 4e.

Very different circumstances between the two, really.

And that's where their story differs from others I've heard.

If you want a split market between worlds and games, there was no market with as many world and campaign possibilities as 3e...believe it or not.

So, when you look at it (because 3rd party campaign worlds ALSO count), their comment doesn't hold as much water in that light (don't get me wrong, I think they were portraying it as they saw it, but I don't necessarily think that view is the accurate or correct one). Now WotC didn't create as many campaign worlds (they created three, and officially sanctioned two others with books with their logos [dragonlance and kalamar], and sanctioned others via websites). They could argue because they only created three [two which already existed], and hence focused the line, but if splintering the lines were really a problem, those three lines would suffer just as much as any other line as they were one of hundreds of different campaign worlds (instead of one out of a dozen in 2e). IMO of course.

However, MANY people buy multiple campaign worlds. Just because you buy Forgotten Realms, doesn't mean you don't buy Dragonlance...

Actually, in 2e, it did mean you bought one, maybe two. TSR had well over that. And as far as I know, WotC had two settings that got serious support (FR and Eberron), and a few "one offs" (ghostwalk, etc). TSR tried to fully support something like a dozen, if you count BECMI stuff. Most of the "division" you speak of were from 3PPs, not WotC. That's "competition", not killing yourself in-house.

Andoran

As far as I'm concerned, the "social contract" thing resulted in the last two books of the Gunslinger series being total crap. I'm sure King just mailed the last two in, seeing as his "fans" couldn't stop annoying the living hell out if him while he was recovering from being hit by a van, since they apparently felt "entitled" to the end of the series.

Seriously, I will never understand why anyone would actually want fans, seeing as this thread highlights how impossible to please many can be.

Andoran

Rynjin wrote:
houstonderek wrote:

The whole concept of anyone "owing" anyone anything outside of basic courtesy (or an actual debt) is foreign to me. An author owes us NOTHING. Nor do we owe then anything.

Just the thought of the idea that someone "owes" someone something just because they were lucky enough to create something people like reveals to me the level of entitlement in our society has reached idiotic levels.

Here's the thing, they wouldn't have been "lucky" enough to make something popular if people hadn't bought it. And people bought it with the understanding that there would be more, in the case of a series that was set to be a series from the start.

You could just as easily say it's "entitled" of the author to expect the audience to still be around when he takes 5 years to write the next book in the series.

I don't see a bunch of AUTHORS on here whining. ;-)

Andoran

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I'm emotionally invested in my wife, my children, and my friends. My entertainment? Not so much. If something starts to suck, I say "ok, this sucks now" and find something else to occupy my time.

Let me use this as an example. I like Paizo as a company, but I don't really care for the direction they're taking their game, so I went back to 1e. I'm not MAD at Paizo, they're just going in creative directions that I don't care to follow. They didn't "break a contract" with me.

I think the 4e Realms stuff put that in perspective for me. I realized "wait, I don't even PLAY 4e, why should I care?" and dropped it. Then I realized that caring that much about some truly insignificant stuff really wastes a lot of energy best used elsewhere.

So, basically, this "social construct" y'all are discussing sounds a whole lot like misplaced entitlement to me. This isn't clean water and air, this isn't whether or not you can feed your family tomorrow, it's how you spend some discretionary income.

And, really, if some writer or director or whatever doesn't want to do something any more, or doesn't do it in the way you "approve" of, who is anyone to say that person did anything wrong?

Get over it, you'll feel better about a whole lot of stuff. Trust me.

Andoran

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Piccolo Taphodarian wrote:

I know it's not popular (or maybe it is), but I'm ready for a Pathfinder 2.0 with a lot of rules clean up from the stuff they learned. Most importantly reigning in crits and no save spells.

I know we're looking at 5E after this Wrath of the Righteous campaign due to rules bloat leading to power bloat. Our group would probably stay with Pathfinder if they start an extensive revision of rules that tones the game down, scales it better so the high level game isn't so rocket tag-like, and improves on what is good about Pathfinder while limiting what makes it hard to run as a DM past the early levels.

They must be recording things that have went drastically wrong, at least I hope they are, even if they aren't fixing them as quickly as needed.

So, basically, completely overhaul 3x. Pathfinder's scaling problems are built into the 3x engine, I'm afraid.

Andoran

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MMCJawa wrote:

FYI...Lisa and Vic were actually in charging of figuring out what went wrong with TSR, and they have stated multiple times that splitting lines (as well as overinvestment in box sets?) was a contributing factor.

I dunno...I see what happened with TSR, and what happened with 4E, and the causal mechanisms behind any financial problems (which I don't really know the significance if any, for 4E) seem completely different. Companies/RPG industry do not have to obey lemming boom or bust cycles.

Yeah, TSR was splitting the market in house, between, say, FR fans and Ravenloft. Almost all were playing AD&D or BECMI or something that TSR published to run them.

4e (and WotC) split the market, but another company was getting the customers that didn't want to play 4e.

Very different circumstances between the two, really.

Andoran

Caineach wrote:

As to whether or not this is good for the industry - I would argue that it isn't good for either books or television.

Between GRRM and Firefly, I have mostly given up on consuming media unless it is finished. In fact, a growing group of people now binge watch tv, which is why Netflix stopped trying to slowly release its series in favor of releasing them all at once after examining user data. I bet you can look at finished series and see significant upticks in sales when they are done. There is a reason they package completed series together to buy all at once.

This to me says that people are less likely to consume small doses, like the first book in a series. That will mean poor sales/ratings, and a feedback loop of people not willing to trust a project will be completed.

I thought they did that because if you actually take five seconds and think about it, Orange is the New Black sucks, but people binge watch and miss that. ;-)

Andoran

Re: Dresden. I thought Butcher had everything planned out for twenty-five books? So there's what, ten to go?

If an author puts something on himself, he might owe it to people to live up to a promise.

Andoran

Liz Courts wrote:
Reggie wrote:

Just another random thought, if we order the print copy, could we retrospectively turn it into the print/PDF bundle once it becomes available?

Reggie.

This is what has been done in the past.

Even though I'm burned out on Pathfinder, if I ever get off my support the brick and mortar kick, this is where I'd buy gaming stuff on-line (if Paizo stocks it). Best customer service in the industry.

Edit: I'll give them 1a, only because Wolfgang actually, probably from a phone, personally took care of an issue I was having with downloading my PDF for an issue of KQ, while he was on a plane waiting for his flight to leave.

So, best normal customer service, anyway. ;-)

Andoran

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The whole concept of anyone "owing" anyone anything outside of basic courtesy (or an actual debt) is foreign to me. An author owes us NOTHING. Nor do we owe then anything.

Just the thought of the idea that someone "owes" someone something just because they were lucky enough to create something people like reveals to me the level of entitlement in our society has reached idiotic levels.

Andoran

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Kajehase wrote:
And Americans really need to get over whatever it is they've got against the French. It' ftankly getting to be uncomfortable. Rag on the Swiss for a bit instead, or the Portuguese.

But I like both of those countries quite a bit. ;-)

Andoran

Digitalelf wrote:
Cptexploderman wrote:
It would seem you don't know of what you speak.
Some of us (Auxmaulous being one) are speaking not from memory or nostalgia, but current-day experiences - as AD&D (1e/2e) IS our current game of choice; having left 3rd edition, Pathfinder, and d20 in general, behind us...

Yep. Just started up a new 1e game with some old school people interested in checking out 5e with me. We're running the classics (I'm starting with n1, since it's my favorite 1e low level adventure), then I think the Slaver's series, then either GDQ or the S modules.

Or we just fool around with it for a bit then give 5e a run when the core is out and complete (I've seen a lot of conversion stuff for AD&D to 5th, esp. the monster conversions, but my prep time isn't exactly massively available, so waiting is the easier option).

Andoran

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Auxmaulous wrote:

I don't know of what I speak? So you are challenging me to a doooul then?

Roll for initiative sir!

Its days like these that I wish I had invested time in...any other hobby.

No joke. Were that "hobby"' post-graduate studies, I'd probably have four doctorates by now. ;-)

Andoran

Pfft. Cold start, no buffs, the fighter is preventing every spell after stoneskin from even being cast. 1e/2e magic users were, until ridiculous levels, quite vulnerable.

Again, the only thing that changed that in 1e was an inept/accommodating DM.

Andoran

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thejeff wrote:

I do remember our first impressions of 3.0 were that martials were boosted. Damage went up, number of attacks went, there were all sorts of cool martial feats, hps going up meant that spell damage was much less than it had been. I still suspect that was the original intent.

It just didn't work out that way. It took awhile for our players to adapt to the new casting style: ignore damage, focus on buffs and SoS/D spells.

I think the need to get rid of the "unfun" parts of magic user play ruined what balance AD&D fostered. All of the "unfun" stuff was what kept them from dominating the game.

Andoran

And when you got to "Stoneskin" levels, the fighter generally only failed his save vs. spells on a one or a two.

And stoneskin didn't stop grapple, overbearing or whatever the other one was, and all of them disrupted casting.

Andoran

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Yep. 2e didn't do much to change the 1e relationship between the classes, other than to eliminate a few all together and add one (core). The magic user was still a glass cannon, and wasn't anything close to the 3x wizard, level by level, until well into double digits.

Oh, and Stoneskin, iirc, was a sixth level spell, so I doubt any 5th level magic users were casting it (for Cptexploderman). I think you also forget that you have to declare your actions before you roll initiative in 1e (I forget if they still did that in 2e), that high level spells took a LONG time to cast, relatively, and, even if you're stone skinned, it didn't take much to disrupt casting.

If the wizard could get the spell off, yeah, big time wow. But, in AD&D, getting that spell off was far from certain, unless your DM was a total pushover or ignored a ton of stuff.

3x? Let's see, even the most powerful spells generally take as long to cast as the lowliest first level spell, you can practically do cartwheels while casting, and even if you do get hit, you have an incredibly easy concentration check. Couple all of that with DCs that scale faster than save bonuses, all kinds of stuff to make SR a pointless stat in most cases, and the fact that the AD&D fighter got that 2/1 or 3/1 AND his move, and in 3x it was either/or, oh, yeah, 3x was "wizard" edition.

Andoran

137ben wrote:
Kthulhu wrote:
Well, for higher-level magic-users, damage dealing / blasting was actually one of the better options. When the also high-level enemy made it's very easy save, at least it took half-damage. Save or suck / die spells tended lean more and more towards the SAVE option as the wizard got higher level.
How does spell resistance (or some analog) work in AD&D? Once of the biggest criticisms of magic in d20 is that it is supposedly balanced by spell resistance, but so many of the best spells have SR: No that it is basically irrelevant. Does AD&D have a ton of spells that bypass magic resistance?

Almost nothing got past spell resistance. Fighters weren't caddies and sherpas in pre-3x D&D, not by a long shot.

Wizards of the Coast, for some reason, really liked wizards in 3x.

Andoran

Kthulhu wrote:
houstonderek wrote:
Diffan wrote:
So maybe the idea of it being more like previous editions is done by design, because that way when people look at it they'll say "Oh, this is definitely D&D."
This is it for me. I see the 3x and the 4e elements, but in general feel, it's more like 2e in a lot of ways.
Yeah. It's not really mechanically close to 0e, 1e, B/X, BECMI, or 2e, but it FEELS like them. In a way that 3.0, 3.5, 4e, and Pathfinder never managed, at least for me. For me, it's like D&D has returned after almost 15 years of vacation. :)

I am going to use the "15 year vacation" line. ;-)

Andoran

We used to stack spells back then too. One of the classics was levitate/fly + improved invisibility (or maybe it was a ring, I forget if improved existed in 1e) + projected image. Hilarity ensued.

Andoran

Diffan wrote:
So maybe the idea of it being more like previous editions is done by design, because that way when people look at it they'll say "Oh, this is definitely D&D."

This is it for me. I see the 3x and the 4e elements, but in general feel, it's more like 2e in a lot of ways. None of the esoteric stuff that I love from 1e (nostalgia, mostly) but a lot of 2e and beyond players don't like much. Which is cool, it's 2014, not 1980, after all.

The thing that says "this is D&D" most to me, though, is the flattened power curve (now that's 1e, for sure) and the fact that fighters are supposed to be pretty bad ass (1e fighters were mechanically boring, but they were deadly), and wizards aren't supposed to be invulnerable (an issue with high level 3x). I feel 5e addressed the power divide 3x brought in the martial vs magical classes quite well, actually.

Andoran

The overly glib answer works for me.

Andoran

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Celestial Healer wrote:
houstonderek wrote:
Celestial Healer wrote:
My Skyrim crashes occasionally - usually while loading a zone - but I haven't had any other memory issues.

I meant I can bring my card and put it in someone else's console and have all of my unlocked stuff, even if I'm using his or her disc.

Not crashes and stuff ;-)

That's pretty awesome. I didn't know you could do that.

PS1 and PS2. Absolutely. PS3 and the XBox were the beginning of "you don't get the whole game for $60, and it isn't really portable even if you sign in to your account from another machine" stuff.

Andoran

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Drejk wrote:
houstonderek wrote:
Drejk wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Drejk wrote:

Gorbacz is getting married tomorrow.

It's half a country away and after reviewing transport options I am not going. Maybe I will meet him in person another time.

aww..that would have been awesome.
Of course there are photos to be seen by those that have Gorbacz as a friend on facebook... ]:->
Beautiful pics at that. Lovely bride. Lovely looking ceremony. Well done all around.
Most of the photos seem to focus on the bride instead of the groom. :D

Well, Gorbacz is kind of a hipster lookin' guy, and the bride is pretty, they were just doing us a favor ;-)

Andoran

I guess the wizard brought the IPA?

Andoran

The brown dragon started with the dragon color wheel in an old Dragon issue from way back (early '80s, somewhere in the 50-70 range (issue #). Ditto for the yellow dragon.

Ok, just checked. issue #79, published in '83.

Andoran

Celestial Healer wrote:
My Skyrim crashes occasionally - usually while loading a zone - but I haven't had any other memory issues.

I meant I can bring my card and put it in someone else's console and have all of my unlocked stuff, even if I'm using his or her disc.

Not crashes and stuff ;-)

Andoran

Kelsey Arwen MacAilbert wrote:
thegreenteagamer wrote:
Maybe I'm going back a few posts, but when someone mentioned running a cross check between sex offenders and PFS groups, all I could think was "Dude, what self respecting parent lets their kid hang out with a group of adults for four hours at a time unsupervised, REGARDLESS of if those adults have records or not?"
My maternal grandmother. Turns out they did have records.

Um, the more important question is, why do cons allow registered sex offenders to buy tickets and be around children? I don't leave my kids with anyone I do not know and trust completely (mostly just a couple I babysit for when they need a break and relatives).

Also, maybe I'm a little leery of letting anyone I don't know well into my home, and want to make sure anyone I invite to a home game isn't on file as being a chomo.

Andoran

LazarX wrote:
houstonderek wrote:

If you ever want to play a fun game, run your PFS (or any game with a list of participants by real name) roster at any Con against that state's Sex Offender registry. It's an eye opener.

Some of us live in the real world and have children. Gaming is becoming a scary place.

Are you saying that from empirical evidence, or just throwing out hyperbole?

Personal research. No hyperbole.

One dude, a professor of mine, was a good DM and I asked him to run a game for my group. I eventually moved away, but the group still played with him and they became close. He babysat for one of the guys and molested his kids, and did time. I found out, and I have been careful ever since, which is easier now with the SO registry.

I didn't start hard core using the DPS Sex Offender registry until I went back on my first violation in 2011 and all of the SOs had been "outed". Until then, I only used it for people I was thinking of inviting into my home. After then, I did so to see how bad it was.

It's bad.

Andoran

What we're saying is there are as many reasons, legit ones, that exist in the actual REAL world that warrant a "no". Not that everyone who wants to play Harry Potter also wants to sleep with Harry Potter.

Andoran

Celestial Healer wrote:
Nord Dragonborn wrote:
My Skyrim keeps crashing on me. I feel the shakes coming on.

*gasp*

I'd invite you over to play on my system, but it won't have your saved games. The only thing worse than Skyrim crashing is not having your saved games.

Yeah, the memory cards for the PS1 and PS2 were awesome in this regard. I am starting to hate my PS3 enough to never want a PS4 (just more of what I hate about modern console gaming).

Andoran

Drejk wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Drejk wrote:

Gorbacz is getting married tomorrow.

It's half a country away and after reviewing transport options I am not going. Maybe I will meet him in person another time.

aww..that would have been awesome.
Of course there are photos to be seen by those that have Gorbacz as a friend on facebook... ]:->

Beautiful pics at that. Lovely bride. Lovely looking ceremony. Well done all around.

Andoran

The sixth printing of the 1e AD&D PHB (1982) is probably the best selling RPG hardcover of all time. They wen't for $12 a pop. Jacobs has already stated on a thread a while back that 1e PHB sales dwarfed 3x PHB in volume. Back then, only DMS bought the MM and DMG for the most part, so those books may not have sold as well as their 3x counterparts through the run.

Andoran

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As long as it isn't an IPA, my favorite is whatever Kirth was serving on game day.

Andoran

Cptexploderman wrote:
Grey Lensman wrote:
Strangely enough most of the people I game with consider SAGA to be the best version of Star Wars they have seen, and they have played every version from West End's all d6 system to the current system with the unique dice.
Every group is different, my circle has played every edition of StarWars as well and consider the Saga edition a train wreck. To each there own I suppose but I can point out that the Saga edition at least in a life span and sales aspect failed.

My order would be WEG d6 #1, SAGA #2, SWd20 #2,198,753. I haven't played the new one yet.

I loved every WEG game I played, and I hate that they're gone. WEG, Chaosium, and TSR were my '80s, gaming-wise. SW SAGA was a good system, and a definite improvement over d20. I actually wish 4e were MORE like SAGA, I might have enjoyed the game a lot more. d20 Star Wars, well, I just pretend it doesn't exist, much like Episodes 1-3.

Andoran

Funny, I never ran Harn in anything but 1e back in the day. From what I can tell so far, from the PHB, most of the 5e stuff should fit with no problems, with the obvious setting inappropriate stuff excepted, of course.

Andoran

Get a hold of as much of the Second Edition stuff as you can afford. From what I can tell, 5e would work well in the older iteration of the Realms, if you wanted to play "classic". 3e wasn't that much of a change, maybe a little darker, but there wasn't a huge RSE heralding the change, simply the return of Bane and Shade, and pretending the Shadow Weave was always there. Either one is a good bet for a fun Realms experience.

I am looking forward to seeing how they fix the damage they did with 4e. Maybe 5e Realms stuff will fit with the lore I already have on the shelf.

Andoran

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Oh, yeah. Almost forgot the actual reason for popping in for all of the whining,

Picked up the PHB Monday. Not too shabby. Kind of a "D&D Greatest Hits" feel, rules-wise. Could have done without the dragonborn and tieflings in core, but oh well. I guess it feels like 3e had 3e been a logical progression of 2e with skills and powers instead of some kind of D&D/Warhammer Fantasy/Rolemaster mash-up.

I like it so far, can't wait until the rest of the core is released.

Andoran

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Ok, I'm going to take the plunge. When I can make my way to the FLGS I'm picking up the PHB. I like what I'm hearing, I liked most of what I saw in the Basic free PDFs, so Hasbro gets a second chance.

Andoran

BigNorseWolf wrote:
Voc Canockers wrote:
But if you were white and of military age you were more likely to end up going to Vietnam than if you were African-American.

and more likely to wind up serving in a non bullet sponge capacity. ALso you're completely ignoring the ENLISTMENT rates vs the draft rates. Even by your numbers (which i cannot substantiate) they still wound up dead more often and did so against their will. You're also ignoring that rates of being drafted for blacks were far higher at one point and evened out as the war went on: namely they were drafting blacks at far higher rates and the protests made them change their policy.

This is on top of the racism they faced both in the army and at home, which is a double slap in the face. "Hey! fight for your country. Your country hates you! Fight for it!" And if you didn't like that, screw you we have police.

Your primary complaint with the weather underground seems to be that they worked outside of the system. Which I will never understand as a complaint when you know the system is corrupt.

The draft rates magically evened out when Nixon yanked student deferments.

Andoran

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Yeah, that's what I'm gathering from the basic rules and what I've heard about the PHB. I'm definitely stoked about a new way to play that gives a nod to the older ways of playing.

Andoran

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What a difference from the PF/4E divide. I was turned off of D&D 4E by what the 4E fans were saying they loved about it, but, in this case, I am turned on to the new edition by what the PF fans are saying they hate about it.

I'm guessing that I might like the new edition.

Andoran

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Fergie,

If you're planning on committing a crime, pick an Arizona area that isn't Mariposa County. Tent City sucks, but the Arizona State prisons are fairly laid back. New Mexico isn't that bad, either.

If you're a non-violent drug offender, Texas isn't that bad. If you're a violent offender or a child molester, the prisons you're sent to are pretty scary.

Avoid breaking the law in California. Their prisons make Texas look enlightened.

Ditto Florida. Ugh.

Illinois, New York, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, also bad places to go to prison.

But, if you're serious about a life of crime, go to Canada if you're broke, Mexico if you have money. Canadian jails and prisons are more "Northern European" style in set up and philosophy, and Mexican jails are FUN if you have bribe money (I know the last one from experience).

:-)

Andoran

Dude, if someone has PTSD from going to a cupcake Swede prison, they were probably emotionally damaged anyway.

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