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Pathfinder Minis for sale

Buying in bulk will cut prices. Minimum purchase of $10 (plus shipping) if I'm going to have to ship it to you.

Promo/alt paint: $4 each (80% of Paizo.com's price)
1x Reta's Bridesmaid
2x Konkrud
1x Goblin Raider
4x Duergar (Solider) Soldier
2x Festering Spirit
3x Fire Beetle
5x Kobold Devilspeaker
2x Bugbear Lurker
2x Guard
2x Slaver Demon
1x Red Dracolisk

Iconic Heroes Set 1: $15 (Minis only)
1. Valeros, fighter
2. Seelah, paladin
3. Seoni, sorcerer
4. Sajan, monk
5. Lini, druid
6. Droogami, animal companion

Iconic Heroes Set 2: $15 (Minis only)
1. Amiri, barbarian
2. Kyra, cleric
3. Ezren, wizard
4. Merisiel, rogue
5. Harsk, ranger
6. Biter, animal companion

Iconic Heroes Set 3: $15 (Minis only)
1. Alain, cavalier
2. Alahazra, oracle
3. Imrijka, inquisitor
4. Damiel, alchemist
5. Balazar, summoner
6. Padrig, eidolon

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Forgot to include buying in bulk will drop prices, and I'd like a minimum purchase of $10 (plus shipping) if I'm shipping them to you.

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Got some Minis I'd like to get rid of.

Promo/alt paint: $4 each (80% of Paizo.com's price and I don't charge ridiculous amounts for shipping lol)
1x Reta's Bridesmaid
2x Konkrud
1x Goblin Raider
4x Duergar (Solider) Soldier
2x Festering Spirit
3x Fire Beetle
5x Kobold Devilspeaker
2x Bugbear Lurker
2x Guard
2x Slaver Demon
1x Red Dracolisk

Iconic Heroes Set 1: $15 (Minis only)
1. Valeros, fighter
2. Seelah, paladin
3. Seoni, sorcerer
4. Sajan, monk
5. Lini, druid
6. Droogami, animal companion

Iconic Heroes Set 2: $15 (Minis only)
1. Amiri, barbarian
2. Kyra, cleric
3. Ezren, wizard
4. Merisiel, rogue
5. Harsk, ranger
6. Biter, animal companion

Iconic Heroes Set 3: $15 (Minis only)
1. Alain, cavalier
2. Alahazra, oracle
3. Imrijka, inquisitor
4. Damiel, alchemist
5. Balazar, summoner
6. Padrig, eidolon

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During their times as '4-star specials', the following scenarios also counted:

Midnight Mauler (during most of season 2)
The Cyphermage Dilemma (during most of season 3)
Day of the Demon (during most of season 4)

At those times, these could be run by 4-star GMs, any VC or any VL.

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I'll be Quest Marshalling all slots except Thursday morning and Friday morning.

Come by, say hi, and play a Quest (or six!) for free!

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Walter Sheppard wrote:
Jared Thaler wrote:
I don't have anything to contribute that has not been said above. I just want to let everyone know that the VOs involved are aware of the situation, and will be addressing it as diplomatically as possible to prevent any unnecessary hurt feelings. The GM in question is relatively inexperienced, and may not have understood the need for an audit beforehand.
You are a good venture critter.

Chaotic Good?

Neutral Good?

Lawful Good?

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GM Lamplighter wrote:
Any retraining needs to be recorded on your Chronicle. If you can't find the original GM, talk to your event coordinator or local Venture Officer.

No real need to track down the GM or a VO. Just wait til you get to the next table you're playing the character at, inform them of the retraining that was done since the last chronicle was issued, and ask them to list it on the one they will be issuing you.

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Drogon wrote:

Yeah. But it's been in the back seat since May for much the same reason (Dragon Con, Origins, Paizocon).

I, and many of the people of the people who posted in this thread, have events of our own that we are were working on. This kind of thing can have a pretty big impact.

I understand being busy, as I am often too busy for many things myself. But eventually I need to set aside something I'm "too busy" with in order to pay attention to things that are important to those who rely on me. Formatting a document should not be a months-long chore. Finding the time to address it should not be something that interrupts business to the extent that these conventions will suffer the consequences.

I understand the frustration, and Im not trying to make excuses. Im just informing you, in case you were unaware.

Good luck!

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Drogon wrote:
Tonya Woldridge wrote:
Drogon wrote:
Tonya, via the Blog, wrote:
A few weeks ago, I unveiled a new Event Support Policy on the blog. It generated quite a bit of discussion, and I put a note in the comments that the team had read the commentary and was reassessing the program. I intended to post the revised policy today, but unfortunately technical difficulties while on the road meant I couldn't access my notes. I ask for your patience for just a bit longer while I return to Seattle, retrieve my notes, and pull the edges together.

I am bumping this. Not because I am impatient, but because I want to be sure that it stays somewhere on the radar. This is still very important to me (and to others, I am quite sure). I know Paizocon happened, and GenCon is upcoming. But many of us will be planning our fall events, and even looking ahead toward winter, and will want to know what to expect when we begin putting together our promotions.

Like I said, just a little bump. I'm not hyperventilating, yet. (-:

Not forgotten you. Took it back to the drawing board for a revamp, then put it out for commentary. Have gotten the feedback, so just need to clean the format and then will post it. It addresses the concerns raised in this thread and I think everyone will be pleased with the final result.

Thanks for keeping me on it :D

Just checking in...

I believe Tonya is en route to PaizoCon UK now and might possibly be going straight from there to Gencon? Or maybe back just shortly at the office before heading to Indy?

So this might end up in the back seat til Gencon winds down. :/

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Josef Mentanu wrote:

As a divine hunter of Erastil, I'm always down to...

...wait, sorry, wrong thread.

That's what I thought it said, too.

And that would be like entirely wrong subforum, not just thread. :P

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My PFS Lavode De'Morcaine wrote:
godsDMit wrote:
My PFS Lavode De'Morcaine wrote:

I have a group that is talking about wanting to fight mostly the special enemies of the PFS.

Can you build a series mostly out of anti-Aspis scenarios.

It seems like the early anti-Shadow Lodge would also fit with the concept.

Seems like there are also a few with especial dislike for the followers of Lissala and Golden League. Where there any others?

Personally, I would count scenarios which feature people specifically targeting VCs or other prominent members of the Society or ones where members of the society have gone bad.

Zarta arc
Stuff involving the other VC from Nerosyan
'Fiend' series
Dalsine Affair
And there's another prominent set I wont mention.

So does that give us enough of various levels for one of these Society Campaign Paths?

I'd be surprised if it didn't.

I was mostly responding to the 'Were there any others' part, though.

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Nohwear wrote:
I wonder if the gimmick just got old, or if someone had a talk with him.

Not sure. I had informed my wife and a mutual friend of his and mine of my intention (as the three of us were the primary GMs for the region at the time), so one of them might have mentioned it to him. TBH, I may have scolded his character as one of the VCs before then. Don't remember if that happened or not. :P

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In addition to thinking its fine for both characters and players to have a problem with the in-game leadership and how they handle things, I also think it's fine for the leadership to appropriately respond to that criticism.

A couple years back, one of our regular players made a character who he decided hated the Society and just took the job for the money. He would mouth off during every briefing about how the Society was stupid, how the VC was useless, etc. It got quite annoying. He had played the character through several scenarios doing this, and I then decided I would keep a list of the scenarios in which I was personally aware that he had done this, and which VCs were assigning him on missions in those. He would get a couple strikes on each of those VCs, and after that, if he sat down to the table for a mission in which a VC with whom he had struck out was sending the players on the mission, they would inform him that he would need to find a new VC to work under, cause they wouldn't have him.

Example: He keeps being a jerk to Sheila, then anytime I ran a scenario where Sheila is the VC, I would tell him that Sheila refuses to send that character. Pick a new character or another scenario to sit at. Basically in-game consequences for his in-game actions.

It never got to that point as I think he stopped playing the character so antagonistically, but I felt it was a just decision at the time.

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To address the main problem VCs...

Shiela Heidmarch is the kind of boss that her employees would be requesting transfers from her lodge or straight up quitting to the point where somebody would need to have a word with her about driving people off or the number of agents she was getting killed.

Canayvan Heidmarch feels like he got a promotion cause he's Sheila's husband and otherwise they wouldn't have promoted him.

Drandle Dreng is more of a sad case than someone to have contempt for. IRL comparison, he's probably that higher up employee who has started show his age. He's becoming more forgetful, he's taking more personal time off due to his health (he cant even finish the briefing in one scenario, and then he was completely gone for more than a year), hes waking employees up at unnecessary times, and doing questionable things in general (don't get me started on Wounded Wisp). Basically, he likely was once a very valuable employee, and sometimes still is just cause of the amount of experience he has, but he's quickly reaching a point where he will become a liability to the Society opposed to asset.
I realize this may not be the portrait that was attempted to be painted for him (as I have no idea what his actual age is supposed to be, other than "He's gray headed"), but these are the kinds of things the scenarios make him look like.

Bahb Jonquet is a real jerk sometimes. And he's bald! And....Oh, this is only supposed to be about in-game VCs? Uh...oops...

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TOZ wrote:
Chris Mortika wrote:
But then, they get the reputations they earn.
Not necessarily. Osprey was bad-mouthed up and down to me, and I bought into it until my characters actually encountered him. Public opinion is not always based in fact.

Osprey is fine except for that one scenario where he sends you on the mission to find the macguffin, then shows up at the end, takes it from you, and flies off in bird form, leaving you a LONG way from home. -_-

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My PFS Lavode De'Morcaine wrote:

I have a group that is talking about wanting to fight mostly the special enemies of the PFS.

Can you build a series mostly out of anti-Aspis scenarios.

It seems like the early anti-Shadow Lodge would also fit with the concept.

Seems like there are also a few with especial dislike for the followers of Lissala and Golden League. Where there any others?

Personally, I would count scenarios which feature people specifically targeting VCs or other prominent members of the Society or ones where members of the society have gone bad.

Zarta arc
Stuff involving the other VC from Nerosyan
'Fiend' series
Dalsine Affair
And there's another prominent set I wont mention.

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jon dehning wrote:
Fromper wrote:
jon dehning wrote:
Fromper wrote:
The game id # is still on the ticket, and there are only 6 of them. I'd say big signs letting people know which id # corresponds to which sub-tier would be the easiest. Also, fliers with that same information for every table GM and muster volunteer. Much easier than yelling and checking the internet.
You haven't heard me yell have you? ;)
No, I haven't. And we're both in the midwest, so you must not be THAT loud. :P

Just the opposite. I can project with the best of them.

The hallway outside the Sagamore will be a challenge but if I could get the entire hallway to hear me at the previous Paizo con hotel, I think I'll be alright.

With you at one end and me at the other (as Im sure this is a duty I'll get roped into anyway lol), I think we can get everybody.

If not, then Mike Bramnik might be a good person to ask for assistance. I've never heard him yell, but he's at least a head taller then me, I think, so he's got the height advantage going for him, making him more noticeable.

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Tonya Woldridge wrote:

Thanks for the heads up. We are talking now about how to make the seating as smooth as possible.

-T

Might I suggest that the people who are doing crowd control in the hallway before the doors open (or however that is being done this year) advise people that don't remember which tier they signed up for to either look it up on the Gencon site or make a quick trip downstairs to the ticket people to have them check. Either way it shouldn't take 5 mins.

Hopefully most people showing up will know what they signed up for since they likely have some specific character they want to play, and that could take care of a large group of the rest.

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Legoman wrote:

What's the penalty in PFS when you stack mistakenly?

I was gonna say that we make you take off your shoes and walk on some legos, but somehow I don't think that'll be a problem for you, what with your specially designed feet and all.

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Drahliana Moonrunner wrote:
magical effects can not persist from scenario to scenario.

Some can, but those are specifically noted.

Baleful Polymorph isn't one that can, though.

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For some time now Ive wanted to play a Wizard in a homegame who baleful polymorphs monsters into bunnies and such, and then keeps those around, and uses them later on in the game by reverting them to their original form once Ive 'gifted' it to a bad guy.

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Justin McNeely wrote:
Sent to you again, Bob, but since this is response number three at this point, can this message act as my response?

I wouldn't count on it, though I just sent him a FB message telling him you posted here about this, in case he misses the email again (which I assume you did send, based on your post).

Good luck!

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Tonya is at Origins right now, so it'll probably be a little while longer before she can respond.

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Thanks, John! Just wanted to make sure I wasn't overlooking anything. :)

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You are correct. All of the Thornkeep levels give 3xp and 4pp/fame.

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Risen Demon wrote:

I just checked the map of Locations that nosig posted and there's only one store nearby, and they don't run games often :/

godsDMit, the person who covers the area closest on that list to me is an hour from where I live, so I dunno if I should contact them about the situation. Would they still be able to help me out?

Askdal Alehart, although I'm looking to play in almost any game, I would absolutely prefer to play my own character. Are there many online games available that would allow me to play with my own?

I would suggest still contacting them, yes. I used to be on that list and lived an hour or so from the main shop I coordinated at. Even if they don't coordinate anything near you, they might know who to point you towards. :)

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Alternatively, check out this page for your area and find the closest person, then contact them.

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PFS 00-01: The Silent Tide
I still consider this scenario one of the best scenarios (even over some of the evergreens) for introducing the game to new players. The combats are interesting and unique (especially the piano), and the scenario gives chances for skill challenges and roleplaying.

PFS 01-46 Eyes of the Ten, Part 1: Requiem for the Red Raven
Do yourself a favor and don't play this series unless you've played a good bit of Seasons 0 and 1. There are callbacks to previous scenarios and you wont want to go into this scenario or the series without knowing why some of the stuff is important.
This scenario has the best 'Welcome to high tier play' Ive seen. The combats are rough, the roleplay is awesome, and the story is still among the best PFS has to offer. THIS ONE SCENARIO is why you should want to get a group to 12.

PFS 02-21 The Dalsine Affair
This scenario will likely not be as important or interesting to newer players as it was to the older crowd due to lack of faction missions now, so the major event in this scenario could just be a 'meh' moment for some, but it was awesome for me as a player, and I love GMing it.
The opening of the scenario is great, too.

PFS 03-02 Sewer Dragons of Absalom
I really enjoy this scenario. The roleplay and story are interesting, and the combats are far from ordinary. None of them are challenging on their own, but if you dont step lightly, you might end up in over your head.
Plus, dragons. I mean, c'mon. Who doesn't love dragons.

PFS 04-11 The Disappeared
This scenario was unlike any other at the time of it's release, and it's been one of my favorites since then. The story is interesting (and part of my favorite PFS meta-plot), the roleplay is excellent. The combats are meh, but those aren't the focus of the story.

PFS 05-01 The Glass River Rescue/ 05-14 Day of the Demon
I cant pick between these two.
Glass River's second half is amazing for roleplay and this scenario is the only one Ive seen to so easily split the party, and the party split so willingly.
Day of the Demon (another entry, though a minor one, in my favorite meta-plot) is more or less a dungeon crawl, but the encounters are awesome and the story is very cool.

PFS 06-07 Valley of the Veiled Flame
I really enjoyed the roleplay in this scenario. It puts the players in a difficult situation and you need to find the correct way to get out of it. And the bestter you do over the course of the scenario, the more the ending is changed. It's unique, interesting, and a lot of fun.

PFS 07-17 Thralls of the Shattered God
Holy crap, go play this scenario. No wait...first go play Traitor's Lodge, then go play this one. It's amazing and a lot of fun. The encounters are challenging and you better be able to think of creative solutions to creative problems, or else you might need a hand with the ending.
If you haven't gotten to play this one and have some time at Gencon, you might want to try to snag a table of it there. Andrew Hoskins, the 5-star GM, VC, author of the scenario is going to be running it a bunch, I hear.

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Eric Clingenpeel wrote:
Thankfully my wife is volunteering again this year so I know I have someone I don't have to worry about snuggling with. ;D

Ditto!

...I mean with my wife, not yours... ;)

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So I want to make sure Im understanding a few things correctly that are included in the rules, cause they are a bit different than previous years, iirc.

These aren't spoilers for the scenario itself, but in the interest of not spoiling anything for anyone, Im spoiling the questions. Please spoil your answers.

Spoiler:
1. Using these pregens only for the mod? So if someone does have a goblin PC that's still 1-2 they cant play it in this? I believe in all previous instances it was allowed. Either that or the scenario itself allows it (which this one does, too, but that's not the point) and I just mistakenly allowed it anyway. If that is the case I assume its cause the pregens are all npc classes and a PC class would outshine them, which is understandable.
2. The chronicle doesn't seem to grant a conditional second PP for playing the thing ON Free RPG Day 2016 like the past couple have. I assume this was intentional, considering the boon (which I LOVE, btw. It's hilarious and awesome).
3. Assuming 2 is correct, then while I applaud the efforts for the reduced amount to Raise the character is the pregen should die, it falls short of actually mattering for those most likely to die, the brand new player, as they wont have the ability to have earned 2 PP to use for the Raise...

Am I missing anything here?

Thanks!

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Eric Clingenpeel wrote:
BigNorseWolf wrote:
I thought we were in the Weston?
We are, which is probably why he didn't see fridges listed. ;)

For the last 3 years in the Marriott my room had a fridge in it each time. An empty one to store stuff.

Also, for those wondering about food, if nothing else there is a vendor for the convention center literally right outside the Sagamore. If you walk out of the straight straight forward from the stage (or where it has been and I assume will continue to be) it'll be on your left in the hallway.

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Fromper wrote:
Occasionally visited by celebrities (I saw Wil Wheaton there once).

If you mean you saw Wil Wheaton there and it was during Gencon, its cause he goes to Gencon. But apparently he considers it a pretty crass if you come up and gush at him while he's there. He is just attending the con like any other gamer and doesn't want to be treated special just cause he's him.

I walked by him in the dealer hall a couple years ago and almost made the mistake of being like 'Hey dude, Tabletop is awesome.', but remembered at the last second. :P

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TOZ wrote:
Jolene Danner wrote:
jon dehning wrote:


Friday
HQ Slot 3: Try to remember why hitting the Steak 'n Shake at 4am was "A good idea"

Steak 'n Shake is ALWAYS a good idea! mmmmmm
Wait, there is a Steak 'n Shake, why was I not informed?

Cause you skipped out last year? ;)

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Chris Lambertz wrote:
Sin of Asmodeus wrote:
Chris Lambertz wrote:
The Paizo Community Team does not have the bandwidth available to moderate additional groups on other websites, given the amount of effort is already diverted to our own forums. However, I am interested in hearing feedback on what one would expect from an official Facebook (page, not group) for PFS in terms of content. Our review of social media accounts is pretty frequent, and we welcome ideas :)

Chris,

Insider looks at upcoming product. Sketches of artwork in varied stages of design, a blast or blog from upper echelons every now and again.
Highlight some various conventions featuring paizo staff or the hot names in the company.
Chapter splashes from new (fantasy) books / novels to generate excitement over them with tie ins for society.
I could go on and on.
I suppose I should clarify with: content that wouldn't normally be featured on the Paizo page.

Things I would like to see:

~Links to PFS-related blog posts
~Paizo Employee AMAs?
~PfS question of the week? (Favorite NPC, class, race, scenario?)
~PFS Author of the month? With a little description and update about what they've been working on outside of just PFS?
~Gentle yet firm enforcement of 'This is a group for PFS, not PFRPG in general'.
~Occasional contests?

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If this somehow got broken down into 5-Stars (or just GM stars) by population density, I'd put money down that this region (southern Illinois, Carbondale-Marion area) would be near the top.

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Steven Schopmeyer wrote:
All of the admins are volunteers, not Paizo employees.

And that's the problem, as "not the best" is the most polite way I can describe those volunteers.

(Or at least the one who were there when I was still in it. Like I said, I left the group awhile back.)

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William Ronald wrote:
Companies do try out rules sets.

1. I fully believe that the alternate rules presented in Pathfinder Unchained is a test of possible new rules for an eventual Pathfinder 2.0. They wanted to see player reaction to those before deciding if they are something theyd want to incorporate into a new edition.

2. I do NOT think Starfinder is Pathfinder 2.0, as its backwards compatible with existing Pathfinder rules.

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I wont force you to roleplay, but if youre gonna make rolls, its likely that I will ask you what you are saying. Im not the most eloquently worded person myself, so if youre more comfortable giving me something like "I ask him about the missing dagger." instead of "Sir, I was wondering what information you might have about the missing dagger?" then you'll get no flack from me for it. I just want something more than "Diplomacy! 20! Yes!" :P

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Terminalmancer wrote:

I mostly agree with everyone here, some sort of credit would be nice but free unlimited replay is bad. Spitballing some ideas:

- Let GM replay stars apply to getting GM credit for a scenario?
- Let GMs re-reunning scenarios mark "replay" on a chronicle and apply that chronicle as a 1 XP, 2 PP, 500 gp, no items/no boons chronicle to a first-level character? (how many people like level 1 anyway?)
- Let GMs clearly mark "replay" on a chronicle which counts as a no-XP, no-PP, no-Gold/items/boons chronicle to a character for faction credit? (those things are a pain to fill up anyway)
- Add one-line GM boons to each chronicle that add something small but fun that increases with GM credit? Ex: "GM reward: check one box every time you GM this scenario. For every box checked, this character receives a +1 bonus on Knowledge: Engineering checks related to bridges."

Unless something has changed, you can already use your GM star replays to get a second GM credit for a scenario.

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Back before I got left the group there were a LOT of people posting questions that would have been better suited to the Pathfinder RPG page than the PFS page.

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andreww wrote:
I see quite a lot of Kitsune and almost none of the rest.

I'm the only person I know with a Wayang character, and it's a Witch that is a birthday party clown as his day job.

That one kid at every party who's afraid of clowns? That's the kid who beat the save to see through the Hat of Disguise. ;)

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Congrats!

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Tineke Bolleman wrote:
Oh, now I need a full set so I can wear them like pokemon gymleader badges.

Yea, but that just shows everybody that you weren't a strong enough trainer to get the 8th badge and take on the Elite 4. :P

Dear Paizo, please make an 8th pin for...reasons... >.>

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I hope not.

Though Im still likely going to want to buy a set. :P

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Congrats, Ray!

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Da Wander wrote:
Perhaps he cast it on a glove? or a piece of jewelry? or ... something? I have mine cast on a tongue ring... so when I smile flames sparkle between...

This was going to be my suggestion, too. If he cast it on the glove, you could wear the glove all the time and take it off when you need to make use of darkness, instead of the spell being cast on your hand and putting the glove on for darkness.

Alternatively, a ring? Burnt out ioun stone and then implant it?

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If the party got the BBEG and ran away without even attempting a fight, I would:

1. Make sure to mark any and all items they hadn't earned off of the sheet.
2. Make any Paladins atone (Warpriest, too?)
3. Make a note on each player's chronicle about how, despite earning full rewards, they were too cowardly to face the BBEG.
4. Play up the cowardly thing with Society NPCs every time I ran for them ever again.

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These threads are my favorite part about this con that Ive never been able to get to. I'll have to try to fix that sometime.

Pain, you going to Gencon again this year?

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They still get full exp/PP/Fame.

Until there are actual goals released for modules and APs, they technically exist outside of of the Society, so the Society itself doesn't have way of gauging whether or not you did the best thing. You still get experience cause you did some adventuring, and you still get Fame/PP cause the Society does recognize that you did something noteworthy, but they cant penalize you for something you did in your downtime.

I like to think of them as 'extended Day Jobs'. Sort of. :p

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Mekkis wrote:
meepothegreat wrote:
Mekkis wrote:

As a player, I don't want to be compelled to purchase a new book, just because it contains an updated version of a legal option that my character has been using for years. It's bad PR and breeds resentment.

It also affects my back and my luggage allowance.

I know it doesn't work for everyone, but the pdf's really helped me with this. Now I just carry a core rule book. (I actually gave it away recently to a little girl who was playing and didn't have one.)
Regardless, compelling people to purchase a new book, even a PDF, is horrible policy.

You aren't compelled to buy an updated item.

Splat books don't get updates, so your version is a perfectly fine source, even if the item gets updated in another book. If you still want a Jingasa or another updated item and your source is the originally-worded splatbook, you may want to go online and print the newer wording from there, just so you have the current wording with you, but there will be no need to rebuy the book as it isn't updated.

As for the hardbound books, the ones that do get updates, just print out the changelog and stick the papers inside the front cover of the book. No repurchase required.

Also, if you have the PDF of the hardbound books, those DO get updated, and the new version is then put into your downloads for free. You don't have to rebuy it just cause it gets updated.

Hope that helps! :)

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