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Wei Ji the Learner wrote:


But what happens when *everyone* has played through to L2 and doesn't want to use their 'one time only @ L2' run of an 'evergreen'?

Then they create new level 1 characters.

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I'd put her closer to dwarf-sized than halfling or gnome-sized.

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BigNorseWolf wrote:
godsDMit wrote:
BigNorseWolf wrote:

) We already have a "reset" button that allows you to Replay everything. Just switch from Standard to Core (or vice versa).

And this was one of the big complaints against core, that it would stop paizo from working on a solution to the problem.

Core is a solution to the problem. If your group doesn't want to view it that way and it doesn't work out for you, that sucks, but that doesn't make Core any less of a viable solution to the problem.

If a solution doesn't work that does make it less viable by definition.

The viability is not based on the success of it at a single venue.

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BigNorseWolf wrote:

) We already have a "reset" button that allows you to Replay everything. Just switch from Standard to Core (or vice versa).

And this was one of the big complaints against core, that it would stop paizo from working on a solution to the problem.

Core is a solution to the problem. If your group doesn't want to view it that way and it doesn't work out for you, that sucks, but that doesn't make Core any less of a viable solution to the problem.

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Blackbot wrote:
godsDMit wrote:
Jared Thaler wrote:

No more "I check for a tea set" in every room.

Right. Now we have faction cards, so it's:

What country are we in?

Is this guy a slave or captive?

Do they allow slavery in this country?

Yeah. I hate players who want to know where they are. And those who want to know more about that country or even NPCs they interact with are the absolute WORST.

;)

Yes, they are! Im glad we are on the same page!

:P

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BigNorseWolf wrote:
godsDMit wrote:
Jared Thaler wrote:

No more "I check for a tea set" in every room.

Right. Now we have faction cards, so it's:

What country are we in?

Have you tried going over the cards at the end of the session? If players trust that you'll let them punch the subway card they seem less worried about it.

Sometimes, but some of them lend themselves to being done at the moment too well. If you go out of your way to recruit someone to your faction and are successful at it, then Im probably gonna give you a bit of a bonus for roleplaying with that person for the rest of the scenario.

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To be fair, these cards aren't any more trouble than the actual faction missions were. If your players are the kind who ask if there is a tea set in every room, they will be the kind who asks a dozen questions about their card over the course of the scenario.

It's the players that are the problem, not the card/mission.

I just find it a bit amusing that one of the reasons the faction missions were cut was to help cut down on time so the party could spend more time on the actual mission. And then a couple years later we have the cards.

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Jared Thaler wrote:

No more "I check for a tea set" in every room.

Right. Now we have faction cards, so it's:

What country are we in?

Does this thing count as a minor artifact?

Is this guy a slave or captive?

Was this thing an evil outsider with a CR equal to or greater than my character level?

Do they allow slavery in this country?

Does this person count as someone I can recruit to be a part of my faction?

Over.

And over.

And over.

So we have removed the author requirement or putting faction missions into scenarios (which is great), but assuming your players have faction cards there doesn't seem to be too much of a difference in time spent on personal missions.

But that may just be me. :P

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BigNorseWolf wrote:
godsdmit wrote:

Im not suggesting you organize things your players don't like. If they don't like Core, then don't organize Core. Easy as that.

If they do like Core, enough to be ok with playing it anyway, then the problem is likely the way you are organizing it, if Im understanding your posts correctly.

Its not how i'm organizing it (or well, NOT organizing it. Its not really a good fit for a small venue because...

1) What people from larger venues don't seem to understand is "enough" has to be "all". Otherwise I'm leaving someone out for a few weeks.

2) Core creates problems down the line. I would like to run and people would like to play their characters past level 5. If the new people came in on core they can't help full out a table of level 7's noncore. Who has played what table and has characters available for what levels is confusing enough before you toss core/noncore into the mix.

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Basically, when you create your event for people to sign up for, have the table be designated as either Core or RPG, but the table stays that way (unforeseen circumstances aside).
Unforseen circumstances changing your plans are almost the norm.

I don't know why you keep assuming Im a person from a 'large venue', but Im not. I know plenty about running events at small locations.

But you seem to be pretty set that this isn't going to work for you, so Im not going to fight you on it. You know your location better than I, and Im not concerned enough to argue about it til we're both blue in the face. If you wish to discuss it further, Im more than willing to try to help via PM so we don't drag this thread out, but aside from that, good luck.

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Quadstriker wrote:

Just once during mustering I'd like to see a Venture Officer announce the following:

"Okay, everyone playing a character won't help in combat until XYZ happens during a full moon on an odd numbered day because you're a special snowflake and that's what your character would DOOOOOOOOO... you're all at this table."

You can organize those tables on your own; you don't need a VO to do it for you.

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BigNorseWolf wrote:
godsDMit wrote:
Wei Ji the Learner wrote:
BigNorseWolf wrote:


and if you have a small venue : and by small i mean 1 or 2 tables, you need to get 10 +- 3 people into Low table, high table, low core, high core.
And run the risk, of course, that your Normal players might boycott your CORE tables (we'll go with respectfully on this) and your CORE players might be upset being shunted into Normal tables, so they have to be built to be separate with a *slight hint* of miscibility...

Right, and its doable if the players are willing to work with you.

If the players are gonna boycott about what you are going out of your way to organize for them, then why do you want to organize for them? If they don't like it, they should organize their own events.

Why would you try to organize things people do not like?

If you only have 1-2 tables even 2-3 people that don't like core makes core nonviable. You then have to balance fourish tables low core, high core, high normal , low normal instead of just high and low. Heck, with a real possibility of having everyone on one table anyone not liking core can put a kibosh on it in a small venue.

Im not suggesting you organize things your players don't like. If they don't like Core, then don't organize Core. Easy as that.

If they do like Core, enough to be ok with playing it anyway, then the problem is likely the way you are organizing it, if Im understanding your posts correctly.

You seem to be using Core as another form of 'tier' as which a game can be played. Don't use it like that. Instead treat the Core campaign as a whole other campaign worth of material to be used.

Basically, when you create your event for people to sign up for, have the table be designated as either Core or RPG, but the table stays that way (unforeseen circumstances aside). The playes are aware when signing up if its a Core table of the scenario or not, so they should know if they can play it, or if they have someone in tier, or not.

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Wei Ji the Learner wrote:
BigNorseWolf wrote:


and if you have a small venue : and by small i mean 1 or 2 tables, you need to get 10 +- 3 people into Low table, high table, low core, high core.
And run the risk, of course, that your Normal players might boycott your CORE tables (we'll go with respectfully on this) and your CORE players might be upset being shunted into Normal tables, so they have to be built to be separate with a *slight hint* of miscibility...

Right, and its doable if the players are willing to work with you.

If the players are gonna boycott about what you are going out of your way to organize for them, then why do you want to organize for them? If they don't like it, they should organize their own events.

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Ryzoken wrote:

The level of badwrongfun in this thread makes me sad.

Send the player to Sacramento, we'd love to have her as is.

Ive got some people I could send your way then, too.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion to what makes the game fun for them. I enjoy it when I am able to contribute. I don't have to be the star, but I want to be helpful. And I find it annoying when other people aren't. Obviously you cant be helpful in every situation all the time, but as long as an effort is put forth, that's usually enough.

For a situation like OP describes, Id have to see it firsthand to see how annoying I would find it. If the bard is not doing anything at all but using Total Defense til the Oracle is hit, then yes, I would be annoyed by her lack of participation. If her character is actively built to be in the way and take the hits so others don't and works at doing that, then that's something else.

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BigNorseWolf wrote:
Core tables exacerbate the problem of geek Sudoku in small venues. Exponentially.

No. No it doesn't. It may not work for your venue, but it works just fine for others (like mine).

If the players are interested in Core, then you schedule Core tables. If the players are not interested in Core, then you don't schedule Core tables.
Easy.

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I fill in the info at the bottom and the boxes for what you actually earned at the table that I ran. For everything else, I assume you know how to do math.

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Step 1. Tell the other tables around you to quiet down.
Step 2. Run your table in your new quieter area.

:P

In all seriousness, though, this...

Tabletop Giant wrote:
Or, little speakers around the table?

...is something that a young (like 9 or 10 years old, IIRC) girl GM did at Gencon a couple years ago. She wore a headset and spoke into the mic so the players could hear her. She ran a couple tables over the convention, and Mike made sure she had players.

Last I heard she has 2 or 3 stars. :)

Now how big the speakers were or how much they cost, I don't know, but it IS doable apparently. Other people have given some good advise, too.

Personally, Ive found trying to work around the layout of the room can be very beneficial:
Cup your hands around your mouth to help them hear you, and cup your ears to help you heard them.
Try to sit so you are facing the wall or corner if you can, so there is less noise coming from that direction.
Try not to sit close to a GM at another table, so you don't have to talk over them or hear over their talking, too.

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Oy vay. Im done.

Boot me if you people want. I'll shed no tears.

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Basically, Im likening the forgetting of the paper sheet to forgetting your chronicle sheets. The GM may be willing to work with you, but if you continue to do it, they aren't obligated to run for you.

This rule wasn't meant to give the GM the final decision on which medium you can run a character.

Though Im in total agreement about electronic die rollers. I don't like them.

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trollbill wrote:
godsDMit wrote:

I interpret it to mean that those statements have nothing to do with each other.

Using HeroLab (or other electronic character sheet) is legal.
Using a paper copy is legal.

If you use HeroLab as your character sheet, you must have a paper copy of your sheet available for the GM to look at if they need to see your sheet and want a paper one.

That in no way invalidates the electronic sheets and it in no way gives anyone the right to boot people from his table for using Herolab for their sheet.

That would be in contradiction to what instigated the ruling in the first place, i.e. Nefreet's right to refuse electronic character sheets at the table. His right to do so it was started the whole thing in the first place and now you are saying that the rule specifically designed address this doesn't address this.

Yes, that's what Im saying. Nefreet, nor anyone else, have no right whatsoever to boot someone from the table for insisting they will use HeroLab on their iPad to run their character.

If Nefreet wants to see their character sheet, they need to be able to provide a paper sheet to show to him so he doesn't have to worry about breaking their electronic device, according to the rule.

The rule is not in place so that Nefreet can say 'I don't like people using tablets, you have to use your paper instead.'

Now, I can see where the 'we strongly recommend you to work with the player' part could mean that Nefreet has the ability to ban people if he chooses, but I disagree. I don't think it means you can ban people for refusing to play off a paper, it means you should allow them to play anyway, even if they forget their paper.

@ Nefreet, I don't mean to be solely targeting you. Just using you here for shorthand for anyone who would rule this way.

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trollbill wrote:
BigNorseWolf wrote:

Trollbill

The Dm CAN require a paper character sheet. They do not have to insist on a paper character sheet: they can and probably will be ok with an electronic one. IE neither the DM nor the player are breaking any rules when they use an electronic sheet

I agree. What I mean by 'legal' is: MUST be accepted by the GM versus MAY be accepted by the GM. A GM MUST accept a printed character sheet as a valid character sheet. They MAY accept a non-printed character as a valid character sheet.

Please provide a link to where it says paper copies must be accepted and electronic ones can be rejected just cause they are electronic.

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trollbill wrote:
godsDMit wrote:
trollbill wrote:
godsDMit wrote:
trollbill wrote:
godsDMit wrote:
trollbill wrote:

What those two statements DON'T mean together is that:

1) A Hero Lab character sheet on a electronic device is legal (it is already accepted that GMs are not required to accept non-printed character sheets).
2) Using Hero Lab to keep track of your buffs, conditional modifiers, HP, etc. is legal.

Im in complete disagreement with you here.

If Mike meant you could print out HeroLab sheets and use those he would have specified it. Since he didn't, that means (unless Tonya wants to clarify otherwise) that running from the program on your laptop or tablet is fine, so long as you have a paper copy for backup in case the power dies or the GM wants to see the paper copy.

Mike said you MUST be able to supply a printed character sheet. He did not say you must be able to supply a printed character sheet UNLESS you are using Hero Lab.

Yes, and that was for the express purpose of making sure that you could pass it to the GM for their perusal if they wanted access to your sheet and not wanting to take the risk of dropping your laptop or tablet. Nowhere did he say you MUST use the paper copy.

You are correct, he did not say you must USE a paper copy. He said only a paper copy was a legal character sheet. Thus a GM may, if they so choose, refuse to accept someone using a different format other than the printed form. Now as far as I am aware of, Nefreet is the only one to actually make use of that right. But since he does GM at major conventions like GenCon then him having that right is relevant.

Personally, I would not do such a thing and think GMs should allow them, but again, that doesn't mean Nefreet doesn't have the right to refuse them. If was, after all, Nefreet's refusal that forced the ruling in the first place.

Please link to the statement by Mike that only paper copies are legal character sheets.

He did not use those express words, but how else do you interpret that a player MUST be able to supply a printed character sheet other than ONLY a printed character sheet is legal, i.e. cannot be refused by the GM?

Note that at no point am I saying that you CAN'T use a non-printed character sheet as long as the GM allows it. But the GM doesn't have to allow it.

I interpret it to mean that those statements have nothing to do with each other.

Using HeroLab (or other electronic character sheet) is legal.
Using a paper copy is legal.

If you use HeroLab as your character sheet, you must have a paper copy of your sheet available for the GM to look at if they need to see your sheet and want a paper one.

That in no way invalidates the electronic sheets and it in no way gives anyone the right to boot people from his table for using Herolab for their sheet.

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trollbill wrote:
godsDMit wrote:
trollbill wrote:
godsDMit wrote:
trollbill wrote:

What those two statements DON'T mean together is that:

1) A Hero Lab character sheet on a electronic device is legal (it is already accepted that GMs are not required to accept non-printed character sheets).
2) Using Hero Lab to keep track of your buffs, conditional modifiers, HP, etc. is legal.

Im in complete disagreement with you here.

If Mike meant you could print out HeroLab sheets and use those he would have specified it. Since he didn't, that means (unless Tonya wants to clarify otherwise) that running from the program on your laptop or tablet is fine, so long as you have a paper copy for backup in case the power dies or the GM wants to see the paper copy.

Mike said you MUST be able to supply a printed character sheet. He did not say you must be able to supply a printed character sheet UNLESS you are using Hero Lab.

Yes, and that was for the express purpose of making sure that you could pass it to the GM for their perusal if they wanted access to your sheet and not wanting to take the risk of dropping your laptop or tablet. Nowhere did he say you MUST use the paper copy.

You are correct, he did not say you must USE a paper copy. He said only a paper copy was a legal character sheet. Thus a GM may, if they so choose, refuse to accept someone using a different format other than the printed form. Now as far as I am aware of, Nefreet is the only one to actually make use of that right. But since he does GM at major conventions like GenCon then him having that right is relevant.

Personally, I would not do such a thing and think GMs should allow them, but again, that doesn't mean Nefreet doesn't have the right to refuse them. If was, after all, Nefreet's refusal that forced the ruling in the first place.

Please link to the statement by Mike that only paper copies are legal character sheets.

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nosig wrote:

It all boils down to what the judge at the table wants.

But that's not what is being asked here, really. The rules state you MUST wear the shirt and that the folio DOESNT have to be filled out with the character info. The GMing insisting otherwise is wrong. They are no more within their right to impose different requirements on a player for that then they are to determine that they don't like the PF version of Power Attack or Dodge and will force everyone at their table to use the 3.5 version of the feat instead. Whether they like it or not, it's the rule.

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trollbill wrote:
Thea Peters wrote:
Keith Apperson wrote:
Thea Peters wrote:
I've been around since the beginning. I didn't agree with it then, and I don't agree with it now.

I know you've got history, I just know some people miss particular threads and rulings. :)

I still agree. Not having this as a written rule would reduce the amount of rules in the campaign, make things more accessible, and cause less tension between players and GMs.

People will argue with examples of bad players or ones that are irresponsible (I had a similar player to the one with the folded up character sheet - his animal companion was, at most, 18 numbers total on a sheet of paper). Having a rule then being able to bend the rule, rather than having 'common sense' and 'encouraging and helping' a player gives some GMs more of a feeling of control I think.

If a player does that at my table at GenCon and I am able to bend a rule, then assist them, letting them know 'not everyone will be as nice', it may be more encouraging for them to get in line than 'I don't understand this, it'd be nice if you had it on a character sheet' and getting 'well, no rule says I have to'.

In today's electronic world, can we really kick a player from the table for not having a paper copy of his character? My opinion, no, we can encourage them to have it for power reasons, Gm audit, etc. But I don't feel that we as GMs have the right nor will I ever kick a player from my table for not having a paper copy.

Doing so just because there is a a rule that alludes to the face you can isn't right

I think you are preaching to the choir, but Mike was forced to make a ruling and he chose the answer that best protected GMs and Paizo from liability.

This. He didn't like the rule.

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trollbill wrote:
godsDMit wrote:
trollbill wrote:

What those two statements DON'T mean together is that:

1) A Hero Lab character sheet on a electronic device is legal (it is already accepted that GMs are not required to accept non-printed character sheets).
2) Using Hero Lab to keep track of your buffs, conditional modifiers, HP, etc. is legal.

Im in complete disagreement with you here.

If Mike meant you could print out HeroLab sheets and use those he would have specified it. Since he didn't, that means (unless Tonya wants to clarify otherwise) that running from the program on your laptop or tablet is fine, so long as you have a paper copy for backup in case the power dies or the GM wants to see the paper copy.

Mike said you MUST be able to supply a printed character sheet. He did not say you must be able to supply a printed character sheet UNLESS you are using Hero Lab.

Yes, and that was for the express purpose of making sure that you could pass it to the GM for their perusal if they wanted access to your sheet and not wanting to take the risk of dropping your laptop or tablet. Nowhere did he say you MUST use the paper copy.

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Auke Teeninga wrote:
godsDMit wrote:
The Campaign Service Coin also provides a reroll, per Mike Brock, but still isn't on that list for some reason.

It is mentioned in the text after the list though...

Last bit wrote:
Finally, if a player receives a Campaign Service Award coin for going above and beyond when giving back to Pathfinder Society, she receives a free reroll once per scenario upon displaying the coin. She may also change her Pathfinder Society number to the three-digit number found on the coin.

That's what I get for not reading the text. :P

Matt Lewis wrote:
bdk86 wrote:
What's surprising to me is how many folks assume you have to wear the shirt.
That's what the rules say; see James Apostolou's post above that quotes the Guide.

+1

You want the reroll? Wear the shirt.

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trollbill wrote:

What those two statements DON'T mean together is that:

1) A Hero Lab character sheet on a electronic device is legal (it is already accepted that GMs are not required to accept non-printed character sheets).
2) Using Hero Lab to keep track of your buffs, conditional modifiers, HP, etc. is legal.

Im in complete disagreement with you here.

If Mike meant you could print out HeroLab sheets and use those he would have specified it. Since he didn't, that means (unless Tonya wants to clarify otherwise) that running from the program on your laptop or tablet is fine, so long as you have a paper copy for backup in case the power dies or the GM wants to see the paper copy.

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The Campaign Service Coin also provides a reroll, per Mike Brock, but still isn't on that list for some reason.

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Andrew Christian wrote:

Let's put this another way.

Hero Lab is a legal option in PFS. Electronics are legal in PFS. You don't have the right to outright ban these options anymore than you have the right to ban slumber witches or gunslingers or any other option you hate.

It doesn't matter what your past experience. The player needs to prove disruptive at the table for any action to be taken.

If you are disallowing Hero Labs at your PFS tables for no other reason than you personally don't like it, then you are wrong.

+1

If you want to see my character and want a paper copy instead? Sure thing. If youre going to boot me cause I want to run my character off my ipad instead of off the paper sheet, then Im sure I can find another table to play at.

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Yes, it is still viable.

No idea if its searchable on the site outside the blog post.

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Gary Bush wrote:
Muser wrote:
That actually is a setting rule, PFS has nothing to do with it.

Ok I guess I am having a hard time seeing the difference. PFS determined the setting so ultimately it is a PFS rule.

I don't mean to contradictory, I just don't see the difference. Any help clarifying this is greatly appreciated.

Youre thinking about it backwards. PFS didn't determine the setting, it was placed in the setting.

For example:

1. In the Pathfinder rules there are drow.
2. According to Paizo, in Golarion all drow are evil without exception.
3. Since PFS is set within Golarion, all drow are evil, and they are not now (nor should they ever be) playable as a PC race.

So here...

1. In Pathfinder there are Paladins.
2. In Golarion, a Paladin must worship a deity, but is not auto-proficient with that deity's weapon.
3.Since PFS is set within Golarion, any Paladins must worship a deity, but are not auto-proficient with that deity's weapon.

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Don't know how interested in GMing you are, or if you would be able to make it to Gencon, but for the past couple years (maybe not 2015, but the two before it at least), the boon for GMing at Gencon included an option for a full character rebuild. Last I knew, it took 7 slots (of 10 over the course of the convention) to earn it, but it can definitely be helpful.

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Kobold Cleaver wrote:
Jessex wrote:
Kobold Cleaver wrote:
It's a Western taboo. PFS tends to be kind of sensitive to Western taboos, so Your Mileage May Vary.
No, it isn't.

Yes, it is. I may have been unclear.

Jessex wrote:
Cannibalism has been a taboo in most societies across the globe across most of history. It is only rare outliers that permit it.
It is indeed a taboo to multiple cultures. Western (that is to say, European-originating) cultures are the ones that I am talking about. Its existence as a taboo in Aboriginal Australian cultures is not of equal concern to its existence as a taboo in Western cultures when it comes to Pathfinder's "ew gross" morality loopholes. Even if Western cultures were the sole exception, the loopholes would most likely remain (which is why a paladin falls for leaving the bathroom door open, even though many non-American cultures have no problem with such behavior).

So what about Asian, Indian, Middle Eastern, African, Native American, Latin American, and South American cultures? I assume you arent wanting to lump them into a group as being ok with canabalism, since its a 'European' taboo, but that seems to be close to what you are unintentionally (Im sure) doing.

Perhaps you want to clarify again? :P

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Auke Teeninga wrote:
A full rebuild is actually not an option, because the Eldrich archer was never legal to begin with.

This...

Andrew Christian wrote:
I'd say the change to a different or no archetype would be free. But no other rebuild options would come free. Fortunately it is only 5pp to retrain a feat. At 4th level you likely have roughly 20 or so PP. So swapping a couple feats shouldn't be too expensive.

...and this.

Hopefully Sebastian's suggestions above will come in handy. Maybe you can find something you like about his and work from there so it doesnt cost you half your PP to get back to having something functional and fun!. :)

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This link is your friend. I've found it helpful many times.

Just keep in mind what Chess Pwn said about what is legal and what isnt. I doubt this page takes that into account.

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Chad Rechkemmer wrote:
The True Dragons boon can only be used in scenarios. The We Be Goblins are all modules.

This.

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+1.

Im not entirely sure Bonekeep still counts at this point.

It very well might, but it hasnt been clarified in awhile. At least not to my knowledge.

Good luck and keep up the hard work!

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Im glad Im not the only one who thinks those pics are terrible. :P

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CathalFM wrote:
Jeff Kosky wrote:
How about at the beginning of a senario the group decides which consumables they want to take along with them and puts down a "deposit". By the end of the senario if you have not used it, then you get your deposit back. Make it so they only accept unused items, so partially charged wands will not be accepted. This allows the group to all share equally in the cost of consumables, and makes the entire transaction take place in the same session. This might help take the strain of certain high cost consumables off of certain classes like clerics by letting the whole group chip in for them. This also prevents any wealth transfer amoung PCs.

Gotta be a no for me. I for one think that you seriously undercut the danger of a scenario if you basically tell players: "Hey you have a few thousand gold you are saving for that magic item, how about you buy something for every eventuallity, oh dont worry anything you dont need you dont pay for so you still get to save all your money"

You really remove the risk of scenarios, and while that is normally doable, its only doable if you are willing to be prepared, and to spend the gold.

+1.

I really dont like this idea. On top of what he said above, it is yet another thing that will take up additional time at the table.

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Finlanderboy wrote:
I agree with seth gibson in that this rule will add debate and fights over people demanding to get reimbursed for their potions.

Im sure someone with that name would love for you to agree with him...but nobody by that name has posted here (yet).

*sarcastic glare*

:P

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Tarma wrote:
Carlos Robledo wrote:
Andrei Buters wrote:
The Scroll of BoL and the Potion of Fly have become mandatory for survival now.
Mandatory is a very strong word, and I don't agree.
I have one Seeker and am close to having two others and I don't think I can think of a scenario in which Fly is required.

Required, no. Useful, yes. Plus, its all about party makeup. We have several higher level archers and gunslingers who help make flight less necessary.

BTW, I dont think I knew you hit 2 stars. Have I given you a 2-star sheet yet?

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UndeadMitch wrote:
Seth, I'm not actually lobbying for replays, it looks like you started your response before I added in my edit stating my position.

You would be correct. :P

I agree, organization can be one of the biggest problems. I regularly play 'Sign-up-Sudoku' a couple minutes before each session begins making sure that tables are good to go and everyone who wants a seat has one. Every now and then there will be a single player who isnt able to get a seat, but that is mostly due to them not signing up on Warhorn and not showing up til right at the start time.

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UndeadMitch wrote:
Seth Gipson wrote:

Undead Mitch and BNW: I live in rural southern Illinois. Like 6-7 hours south of Chicago. Carbondale, where I organize, has a population of roughly 26,000 during the semester, since its a university town.

I regularly sit about 8 tables per game day (4 per slot), twice monthly. We have only two players thus far that have significantly slowed their attendance due to lack of things to play*, and neither of those players have GMed more than a handful of scenarios each.

Please dont assume Drogon's success in Denver or nosig's in St Louis has anything to do with the size of the community.

*And by lack of things to play, I mean their list of sscenarios they have left is probably still 20-25 strong.

And I live a few miles outside of a town of roughly 5-6 thousand. If Omaha wasn't within driving distance, I wouldn't be able to play PFS. As it is, I have to drive about 45 minutes to play or GM PFS. You say you only live in a community of about 26,000, but that is a college town. You may not be as big as a major metropolis, but you still get a sizable population of an age group that is prime for PFS. A college town is not the same as a small town.

I also drive 45+ minutes to get to that town. The town I live in is about 9,000. Perhaps a handful of my players come from the university. The majority of my players are over 25 and married. And I have some middleschoolers.

If your player base is as small as it sounds and yet you have so many people with nothing left to play, I highly suggest they start GMing. Its a great way to give back to the community and can seriously help lengthen your ability to gain credit.

Im not trying to discounting your experiences or difficulties, but neither should you discount those of people who live in a larger area. Just because the rule doesnt work well for your area, despite working for the vast majority of players out there, doesnt mean the rule needs to be fixed.

Edited population after Googling it. :P

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Carlos Robledo wrote:
Andrei Buters wrote:
The Scroll of BoL and the Potion of Fly have become mandatory for survival now.
Mandatory is a very strong word, and I don't agree.

Agreed. None of my characters carry breath of life scrolls and only a few have potions of Fly.

Also, I dont support this change, as it will just enlongate and further complicate the process of getting the chronicle to the player.

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On topic: Starsaber, if you have the contact information for any of the adult players, I would ask them personally if there was any reason why they havent come back. If it is because of the kids (Ive got my own batch of players that age, I know how they can be :P), then maybe offer to have a table run separately for them. I know our younger players, being the minority of the group, like to play together whenever possible, so it might be the same way with your few adult players preferring to play together instead of with a bunch of kids.

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Undead Mitch and BNW: I live in rural southern Illinois. Like 6-7 hours south of Chicago. Carbondale, where I organize, has a population of roughly 26,000 during the semester, since its a university town.

I regularly sit about 8 tables per game day (4 per slot), twice monthly. We have only two players thus far that have significantly slowed their attendance due to lack of things to play*, and neither of those players have GMed more than a handful of scenarios each.

Please dont assume Drogon's success in Denver or nosig's in St Louis has anything to do with the size of the community.

*And by lack of things to play, I mean their list of sscenarios they have left is probably still 20-25 strong.

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IIRC, theyve said it was 1-11 only this year.

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Majuba wrote:
Who is Pasha? (Or I guess, from what scenarios?)

Former head of the Qadira faction.

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Unknown Ediology wrote:

When I first read this blurb, my mind immediately jumped to the thought that the two villains for Sundered Crag are:

** spoiler omitted **.

Im betting its more likely these than Torch. Heck, Pasha is probably more likely than Torch.

Of course it could be...

Spoilers for Kalkamedes and Traitor's Lodge:
that glabrezu, assuming you are among the people who believe it to be the same one. I could see it being him and Thurl.

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kinevon wrote:
Seth Gipson wrote:

I am of the opinion that you arent supposed to be able to replay without using stars unless it is to help make the table.

If the guide is vague on that now, so be it.

However, regardless of if you are helping to make the table or are player 5 or 6, you should still be receiving a null chronicle for it. Any expendables you used are still consumed and if you die you are still dead. That kind of stuff has to be recorded somewhere.

Would you still get a null chronicle if you are using a pregen to replay?

Yes. If the pregen dies, I would be fine with just marking down an unused number for the player instead of a character they are already using (like you are supposed to do when normally using a pregen), but if the pregen gets a disease and has to pay to get it fixed or something, that is gold that will come out of the pocket of the character it gets applied to.

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