Joshua J. Frost wrote:
I find it amusing that you're so adamantly against slavery even being represented in a fantasy context, but still use the word "retarded" to reflect something as being negative. Bizarre.
Yes, the word is a negative and it describes what I think of the whole issue. I know we're not demeaning my terminology in order to make a point, whereas I'm trying to bring up the issue that we GM's are now faced with.
I consider slavery to be an evil act that doesn't belong in the game and that it cannot be justified because we "kill evil monsters and take their stuff, hence all other evil actions are thus justified."
The problem I have of course is not about slavery or evil PC's. It's about what situation a GM is suddenly thrust into. As a GM, I'm told that player characters cannot be evil..but suddenly slavery (rape and kidapping and all the other things that go with slavery) and murder of innocents could suddenly officially sanctioned by Paizo and Pathfinder Society by players and the GM's can't do a dang thing about it.
I can't tell you how much I'm really looking forwards to my first table here in Denver with African American players and "impressionable players" at the table and slavery is suddenly flung to the forefront. Thankfully, most of my black friends play WFRP I guess. I've already noted that it's seen as an issue about our local who gets off on this stuff. Officially, I can be banned as a judge for not allowing it? What the heck?
Where does this end and how much leeway as a GM do I have to disallow evil actions? What happened to the "no evil characters rule?" Or is that just lip-service?
Anyways, I moved to an off-forum area to discuss this touchy issue as a whole (since this is probably getting off topic): http://forum.rpg.net/forumdisplay.php?f=89
Joshua, in a sense, what we just need as GM's is clarification. If you're going to open that can of worms and say that Paizo officially sanctions slavery as a non-evil act in Open Play gaming, then this issue needs to be dealt with in a bit better fashion than "..They're legal. You just can't use them in combat.." Hush hush doesn't work. I've been GMing convention games far too long to expect that out of open play/Living gamers.
Thanks,
Jay Hafner
Lakewood, Colorado