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P1NBACK wrote:

What about the Gestalt rules?

First thing I thought of when I saw this thread.

Unearthed Arcana p.72

A little overpowered, but good if you are running a small game or high power game.
Another option is to just give them the Gestalt Class Features at 1st level and then they level up normally after that.

Hmmm, a little houserule for all of you.

UA Pg 72, allow the "Best of Both Classes" for first level only, and then multiclass normally afterwords.
EXCEPTION: Primary Spellcasting classes take the average of they're prospective classes hd, rather then the top hd. (To prevent Sorc/Barb, Wiz/Barb combo mostly (IE a Sorc/barb is running at d8, not d12, still an advantage, but not as great of one)...

That being said I have ran Gestalt games here in Iraq, as I have two players at the moment, due to limitations on time more then anything else, Gestalt seemed the way to go. Let me tell ya, a Ftr/Sorc, and a Rog/Clr team gets VERY bad!@# very fast... I am having to Gestalt my NPCs for climatic battles, and somtimes adding as much as 4 to the CR of encounters over what was written in Savage Tide. So I would not suggest the Gestalt combos to be permanet options in a campaign, but I have discovered that allowing it as a reward for major story objectives, (ie god takes favor with you, granting you access to spells, and a boost in saves as if you had taken the first level of clr, when you next level in fighter)... works quite well. I could see it working equally well in filling this need for 0/0 level multiclassed characters. Especially since they will be leveling normally past that point.

~Elvnsword

This combination didn't sit too well, with me. I'm reminded of the U2 song that goes "it's true that a liar won't believe in anyone else." Just because you're good at lying doesn't mean you're good at telling that other people are lying.

Also, as you say, it's useful for way more things that that. I've always thought of Sense Motive as a general read of a person's body language, mood, and, well, motives. If someone's not lying (i.e, using the Bluff skill), Sense Motive can give you an idea of whether they trust what they're saying to you, how confident they are, etc. It might seem streamlined to combined opposing skills into one, but I don't think it makes logical sense and I think it removes some flexibility that I like in the skill system as is.

By the same arguement, Deception still reads into that idea that you can use body laungauge, words, and even intention to tell a bluff... You can also, as the DM, edit what information they get about why they know the person is being deceptive, or perhaps even that "he trusts his information but seems stilted in the speaking of it, as if another force controls him from on far" :D It is all up to the DM on this one. So while I agree that it is perhaps better to keep seperate to remind folks they do more then one thing, with the new setup, and description, it is fairly easy to use them in all the same ways they were used before...

~Elvnsword

In Ref to the OP:
I was still in shock from the cancellation of Dungeon and Dragon Magazines, when they broke the long held silence, and still without really addressing the cancelation of a magazine series that has ran for a LONG time, (20 years or more?), they announce 4E and suddenly it is startilingly clear and present to my mind. They cancelled Dungeon, they cancelled Dragon, so they would have control of official content.
"Well," I told myself "mabye this won't be so bad... perhaps they will fix grapple, and polymorph" (both pains in my side). Then the previews began, each dropping farther and farther from source then the last. When they started into the "everyone has use per day and magic abilities" I lost it. I lost my faith that WotC wouldn't screw me. I lost my faith, already shaken by a few book releases that were lackluster, and the cancellation of my favorite magazines... that my favorite game publisher had my best interest at heart. I lost it. It became startlingly clear that, they're bottom line, was the bottom line. That black mark at the edge of the red finances...
Now to put exactly how I felt into context, I have to explain somthing. I use to work at a gaming store. When I started there it was a place that kids hung out all day at, games were played for the players, and all in all it was an AWESOME FLGS. Then, the owner, for reasons I won't go into, began being more worried about how much the place drew in. we were making our bottom line as a FLGS, but he wanted more. So we changed the Saturday night scene, and put in a poker tournament, I protested and refused to work with that crowd, which were often rowdy enough coming in that it was clear the amount they had had to drink already. Long story short, I got fired, and the place tanked without me, as the parents, and kids, who were the true support for the store, decided that I, (the local college kid in the education program), was the trustworthy one, and the owner, was not, since he was gambling, and allowing drunks in his store...
I feel the same thing is happening now. WotC being my FLGS and the new feel being the undesirable crowd. I don't want to run a game that resembles WoW meeting Ruroni Kenshin... I don't want every character throwing fireballs, I don't want the Wizard and Sorcerer to be able to always use spells... I want D&D not MMO...
They don't seem to understand that... and they don't seem to care what they're old, supporting crowd, wants and needs out of they're product. So I felt, frankly, betrayed... I felt like the wool had been pulled over my eyes, the rug pulled from under me, and the breath knocked out of me all in one go. It was bad.
Lucky for me, Pathfinder comes along. Here is Paizo, an old friend at this point, seeing what I see (imho), seeing a need for that old feel gamers who are the main support have thrived on for 30+ years. Dungeons, deep dank places, of danger and darkness, and Dragons, mythical titans of magical and physical stature... pitted agianst the best our wits can toss out there. They put out the first series of modules and I was blown away. For the first time in years, I ran modules as written....
Then they announced it... the split, Pathfinder RPG! Wow Loot...
I am sticking with you Paizo Community, Pathfinder... 4e be damned...
o and can I point out... Gnomes Rock...

Later,
Elvnsword

Do the PDF copies come with a PDF version of the map?
thanks in advance for the answer

Elvnsword

While I am a firm supporter of paper product, i find myself stuck in the desert with a group of maniacs calling themselves A Company...
I am unwilling to expose my magaiznes and books to this and so have been running everything off my SRD and my laptop, which still has four years under warranty. (I can get the sand vacummed out professionall...)
As such I was wondering when/if the folks here at Paizo were going to put the rest of savage tide into PDF format. I already have a hardcopy of each issue, and would just like to have it in my portable, more desert friendly version.

Thanks
Elvnsword

OK, got a combo for a BBEG, Armed with dualwielded Harpoons (both +3 Returning), and a net... The net is made of adamantium, with a rig of four immovable rods at the corners of the net...

BBEG Throws net, locks down PC, throws Harpoon (2d6+3, and again when it returns (they deal damage on removal)), until dead... :D I am thinking of slapping this onto a Seagoing Frost Giant... What do you guys think??

Elvnsword

I second the Ankylosaurus! nothing says armored badass like a Dwarf Paladin in Fullplate riding atop a naturally armored celestial mount...

Greetings
I declare myself Elvnsword; Lord of the Lurk

And I am a lord due to my enormous ego...

As many know, a select few on the Paizo boards, whether due to the frequency of their posts, their enormous egos, or (in very rare instances), their intelligent and insightful comments have come to be known as the

LORDS OF THE BOARDS

How do you identify these so-called Lords of the Boards? Simple, you respond to this thread and identify yourself as such with an appropriate title.

Sebastian the First
Lord of Curmudgeons, Champion of 4e

Erik,
I am for one NOT going to 4e, I simply have put to much time and energy into 3.5 to consider changing before I use up all my materials
I can understand the drive your publishing company is under to update to 4.0 and the need to "keep up."

I am here to ask you not to. 4E is killing out sacred cows, wiping out 30+ years of campaign setting with greyhawk, and dropping a lot of "make it cool" announcements that seem more anime then D&D. If I had wanted to play anime based RPGs I would go to BESM... not a new edition of D&D.

I heartily urge you to update the SRD to your own standard with this 3.75, and know that myself and my gaming group will follow you.

The only thing WotC is getting my money from me for is minis... and only cause I can't paint.

Sincerely
Elvnsword

Yeah, well blah blah this sucks!!!

Hey I'm a troll.... that means I can reproduce myself. Where the hell did I put that axe!!!

Ya know the only way to feed a hungry mob of Kobolds, Troll guts, they respawn afterall... hmmm, new solution to Pathfinder 1... Feed a troll to the lil !@#$!@#$#! (Censored for your protection, TroJan Man)

As for the earlier sentiment, I am keeping my Pathfinder subscription thank you, it is following me to the desert and back agian. Keep making quality products Paizo crew, I will keep buying them. (Note in this posters Humble opinion, 4Ed is not quality).

TTYL (I'll be here)
Elvnsword

Given what you know so far, are you planning to:

A) Convert! I am ready for a new D&D.

B) 3.5 or Bust! I'm sticking with the man what brought me.

C) We'll see. Need more information.

D) Other.

Please pick one. Feel free to elaborate, but please stick to one reply each for this thread. I'm not interested in fights or refutations of incorrect points or baiting or whatever.

I want to know how you, at this moment in time, feel about the idea of converting to a new edition of the game.

I expect that people's answers will change over time. This is not the last time I will ask this question, so we'll have a chance to gauge the issue as we go along.

So, given what you know so far, you plan to: _______________.

B. I will NEVER buy a 4.0 book, heck I was upset at the new layout of The Ruins of Castle Greyhawk, and Expidition to the Demonweb. I dispise the Book of Nine Swords feel and theme, and it seems to be what they want to go with. Genericizing the world, dropping all of the rich history and playstyle that has been D&D for the last 31 years is not the best business move, the folk at WotC are seemingly under pressure to make they're game more "anime" to appeal to the younger crowd. Heck if I wanted to play Anime games I would get on BESM d20, but I don't I play D&D!

3.5 FTW... 3.5 Till my Dice Rot!

Sincerely,
Elvnsword

I think you could sell more magazines by sorting. For example, setting up a list of the issues the Demononicon of Iggliv was featured in, or the adventure arcs.
maybe it would sell the rest of the back issues, maybe it would make it neccasary to print more copies.
Thanks,
a caring customer...
Mark

Dienerack the clan Bard, is a lone kobold of his color within the tribe. His ancestory in question he is the kobold most likely to join with the pcs as he wants to search out his true mother and father.
The true father turns out to be a gold halfdragon, who bestowed (and this can be added later to his lil bum) the draconic template...

badedadum! tada all done now

Elvnsword

Since we can't use any of the campaign settings owned by WotC, we'll be creating a brand new setting as a background for Pathfinder. The adventures themselves will be closely tied to the core fantasy swords & sorcery experience. In other words, Shackled City, Age of Worms, and Savage Tide would have fit perfectly into our new campaign setting.

Mr Jacobs,

With the idea that the Pathfinder world would have fit the other three adventure paths, will there be any plans to put out a free enhancement for how to transfer it over.
I mean I can always do it myself, but if you have suggestions for world locations, and ideas for dieties and groups name conversions.

Thanks
Elvnsword

Just to show that Youtube is forever...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Dq6PCELvRI8

Enjoy..

PS is that really you guys

To all the Staff of Paizo,
I am sorry to see Dungeon and Dragon magazines fall by the wayside. WOTC has made a true mistake, up there with New Coke in my humble opinion. I do have a question for you concerning this though. Will there ever be a Savage Tide, and an Age of Worms Adventure path books. Will they have to be licensed through WOTC, or does your previous license for publishing them hold.
I know I would LOVE to see those works be bound in glory as the Shackled City was.
Please tell me there is hope
Mark Taylor

Erik Mona wrote:

I'm also seriously considering an annual book of short adventure (say, 30 or so) designed exclusively by folks who have not been assigned a Pathfinder adventure or GameMastery Module.

Our company has benefited greatly from the infusion of new talent the magazines generated, and we have no intention of "closing the door" to the next generation of game designers.

--Erik

I love this idea, Erik, both as a consumer and a potential author on a project.

I second that Erik, I would buy this new idea of a Massive adventure book. Thirty adventures at the cost of say 60 bucks 15000 words each. Yes... I would go there...

Mark Taylor
Proud Pathfinder...