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With studied target (+1 hit/Damage) and divine favor (+2 hit/damage) I would start at roughly +7 to hit at level one (granted 5 if saving spells)and each would apply to each weapon which seems to be a nice bonus. But I would probably stay at just the normal twf due to dex, so it makes it kind of iffy.
I definitely would like to try melee for a change. (had the thought to go back to archery, but only 1 feat at level one makes it kind of rough) I'm hoping to get a chance today after work to look into the intimidate builds, see if there is something I could take at level (at +9 intimidate at level one, I don't see intimidating prowess really worth it) or maybe just take toughness/heavy armor prof
Hmm yeah just reread it, really sucks imo. Sort of kills the build, was willing to go to 15 dex but further will take away from everything else. Going with the talents I wouldn't get itwf until level 16?? Sucks I was really liking this idea. So back to what to take at level 1 feat wise?
I'm not sure either Godferret, would really suck if it did work that way, especially for level 8. Unfortunatly I'm finding way too many things require +1 Bab...luckily two weapon fighting doesn't anyone know where I can look at a example of a intimidation build? I hear of it a lot but cant seem to find a example (might be overlooking)
If the level 8 doesnt work I might just have to go the falchion route (maybe take rapid shot for the 8th level feat)
Ah that sucks, silver tongue looked pretty nice. I would need to double check with the GM about exotic weapons, pretty sure he would be the type to make them really hard to come across. I plan to go the intimidate chain route at some point (still need to plan it)
I'm not sure if it works this way but at level 8 I would take the ranger combat route and take improved two weapon fighting (so I can leave my dex at 15) Going with shortswords I would have +4(str) +4(outflank) +6/1(base) +2 (studied)and +4 (divine favor) so (sorry just waking up) 18/18/13/8 and each would be hitting at main: 1D6+10+3D6 (sneak) and off hand would be 1D6+8+3D6..with the option to add bane to the main attack Thats just adding the outflank, precise, two weapon and improved two weapon I'd still have +3 feats and magic items to add (maybe power attack and cornugon smash?)
With a falchion I would have (with power attack) +18/+13 and 2D4+12+3D6
Here is one more question can a half orc gain the silver tongue human racial trait or no? Sorry was looking at hero lab and was curious. I was thinking toughness but agreed kind of ho-hum I'll look into the other options tomorrow thanks
Hey all, normally I play a archer inquisitor but decided to try a melee type, was gonna go with the Sacred slayer archetype, Half-orc with sacred tattoo and Fate's favored.
If not two weapon fighting what should I take for my level 1 feat? Just found out I couldn't take weapon focus and I know I cant take power attack. Con is 14 and I plan to take the half orc favored bonus. Domain is conversion
Tough call, with oath and the ability to lose LOH, I figured would make up for the loss from SS so increase spellcasting while still maintaining offense. But yeah I'm not feeling the god/domain combo. Might ask the GM for a slight ruling
I would really like the travel domain but from what I'm seeing it might not work. The flavor idea is that this is a paladin seeking redemption. He was part of a army which slaughtered a whole city and he has laid down his old life to make up for his crimes.
Hey guys creating a Oath of vengeance Paladin, the GM showed me the Sacred servant archetype and I was trying to find a deity (GM requirement) that a Paladin would follow that has the travel domain.
Agreed I would carry a decent bow, nothing like a round or two before a dragon comes eat you and you could put a couple arrows in him before he gets to you. Right you can use the bastard sword 1 handed...but in a pinch you can two hand it (always good to have options)Iron will and two others...hmm weapon specialization for the bastard sword (+2 damage) oh and blind fight! (at higher levels you will run into more invisible things so might be handy)
Hate to mention this but there is a archetype that focuses on Tower shield called Tower shield specialist, might be worth checking into. Oh and you get Tower shield prof already so no need to take the feat. I would take weapon specialization: Bastard sword in it's place. Iron will is pretty good to take, since your will save is possibly low (nobody likes a mind controlled fighter) Ah just saw the no archetype rule... Oh a option to keep open is the possibility of two handing the bastard sword (when damage is more important than def or the -2 penalty is really working against you) Depending on your dex you could always go point blank shot and rapid shot (when you need to shoot things from a distance) But really I think most people will tell you iron will is really important
Waiting on gm's reaction on spontaneous healing (would love to have) Aiming to play more of a caster-type to avoid the rush in melee so the BAB is kind of meh to me but the armor and shield bonus might be what I need. Problem with speaker of the past is it limits you to Time and Ancestor then you lose wandering spirit
Hey I just noticed something that seems almost broken. If I take one level of warpriest I could gain all the prof along with the focus, take healing blessing (all cures cast are +50%) and from what I'm reading it doesnt specify if I have to give up warpriest spells for spontaneous...so I could use shaman spells to do that?
I'll look at the speaker of the past and look at maybe taking a different spirit at first
I agree Kalvit, first thing I did was look at the witch doctor...but I didn't think it was worth it. Greater amount of channels but lesser amount and the other abilities just weren't great imo. Not to mention you lose 4 hexes.
Either way you go it seems you need a good wis and a solid cha. I plan to take the slumber hex and get extra hex for the cures at level 1 also extra channel (party is looking to be 6+ seems like it is worthwhile) Slumber will be my big one for awhile. Then evil eye followed by chant asap although misfortune might be worthwhile. I plan to take the battle spirit when I can to add the "inspire courage" ish ability. Whenever I need to heal a ally far away send the raven familiar to touch a cure on them.
This is very different for me and bringing my character out to level 5 I found I'm not sure which feats to take at level 3 and 5. The GM is doing a rise or runelords 25 point buy one trait has to be from the system and the other can be elsewhere stats atm are str 10 Dex 14 Con 14 Int 10 Wis 18 Cha 16 (15 until lvl 4)
Hey everyone trying to make a healer/buffer type that can stay in the back since the current party is making a mad rush to crowd around opponents. I was sort of looking at the Shaman with the Life spirit. So my question is what would you recommend, if the Shaman is a good idea or if there is something better and which hexes would you suggest. Also if I go healing hex does that stack with enhanced heals?
Wow I suddenly felt really old. Anyways Silver, from some of your posts you might have a issue with rule lawyering (especially since another player has noticed) Don't get me wrong I'm a rule lawyer-type but you need to pick your battles. If you are hitting the GM on small issues and then a big issue I could see him losing his cool. While he is in the wrong if you are constantly challenging him, it gets lost. Sorry it is early and I'm trying to be coherent. If some of these texts you sent are verbatim I would probably say things a tad differently. Also since you are his girlfriend he is gonna be a bit more critical of what you say vs what others are saying (it's in the fine print)
He obviously did make some big mistakes, but in the end it's a game. If you take things too seriously this could effect your out of game relationship, so tread wisely. Personally from his reactions you posted he does have some issues to deal with. You can leave the group but it might hurt his feelings. Again we only know one view of the issue.
Power attack requires a str of 13. Tangaroa gave the best advice imo. I would ask the gm if he would allow piranha strike and the agile enchant. If not I would say go a normal sized race and go str (in the end it works better imo but going by your preference)
Agreed that post was a little too rough to read. There are more powerful spells I've seen gm's shake their heads to. Litany is nice but it is only for a round and you are burning a spell for the benefit. Blistering is nice, but again not breaking too much. Most people I run into shake their head when I cast Divine favor (with fate's favored)For +3 hit and damage at level 4. Still since you can't use traits +2 is nice, for a full minute I wont complain. Wrath would probably be better for you but you get the idea, for a "core" inquisitor that is pretty powerful and it takes the place of weapon focus and weapon specialization (for a minute) Spells do that, a leap of greatness for a short period of time.
So TG you have to do the quests to get the pet? There actually is no rule saying I have to take a feathered friend. But am I right to assume that the pet should be secondary (with some help)while boosting my character? I know that goes against some advice, but I just think that going all out on the pet is better suited on a class that can utilize it to a greater effect.
Sorry for the long delay. Work got in the way. Anyways my thought is to keep the companion as a "add-on" Since I only have a few spells that will help him (vs the druid) Was debating on taking light armor prof then power attack and iron will. Mainly thinking of using him as a hitter/bodyguard if I need it
Ok so level 5 I'll do boon companion, at level 7 which is better deadly aim or extra bane? Level 9 I can finally get manyshot =/ Since the companion only has a +2 to hit right now I'll wait until next level for power attack and probably the same for iron will but then ill have toughness/power attack and iron will...which is pretty solid. What is the rule for changing companions in pfs?
Thinking a big cat, wont he need light armor prof to wear the chain shirt or is it because it is mithral the penalty is negated? Was thinking about toughness to start (since next level it will gain 2 more feats, was just thinking survival for a level might be good
Hey all, I'm playing PFS and my archer inquisitor hit level 4. Stats are str 14, dex 18, con 10 int 12 wis 15 and cha 7 I'm planning to put the +1 to wis to add to my monster knowledge, init and just all the other nice things. I've pretty much put my favored bonus right to hp every level, since he is a archer I didn't put all that much weight behind hp. At 4th level the feather domain gets a animal companion, now here is my dilemma. Should I put the feat in at level 5 for boon companion or save it for extra bane or deadly aim? Also what would you pick for the animal's feats (is there a guide somewhere?) Or should I just take a horse and kind of put it into the background?
The domain gives me the animal companion(ex) At least according to Hero Lab it says it's compatible. But here is my thing..is boon companion worth it or could I just let the companion take the -3 while I progress the inquisitor's feats. While taking the dip would solve that issue, I just feel it would create more in the process. I do have "free" feats at 5 and 7 (bab is too low for manyshot or any others) I'm not too familiar with dinosaurs was thinking maybe the wolf or tiger
Heya I was debating on changing my inquisitor's deity to one that provided tactics but I found out that the extra cost in PFS is 5PP. I currently have the feather domain (Erastil) and at level 4 I get a animal companion -3) So my question: Is it worth it to change or to keep the animal companion. Also should I get boon companion or keep working on my archer feats (Have point blank, precise and rapid) Was stuck between deadly aim and boon companion...maybe even extra bane at level 7. Just wondering if the companion is worth it to spend the feat
Ok just to check it is 10x level x days to retrain so a level 3 domain change would be 0 For deity change and The domain would be 150gp? Thinking of switching from Erastil and feather domain to maybe Tactics and a deity appropriate (I'm archery based) just thinking at level 5 I'll have to take boon companion or I can use it for extra rounds of bane or something else
Sorry just to clarify real quick, where does that put me in domains, do I have to retrain it or just move to the other deity? Sorry not sure if the domain falls under a element specific to the deity or not..
Hey guys what is the rule for a inquisitor changing either a domain or his deity? I'm currently playing the feather domain with Erastil but not sure if I want to deal with the animal companion. (level 3 character)
Coordinated shot was published in the advanced class guide (beta) Req point blank shot: if a ally is threatening a opponent and not providing cover against my ranged attacks, I get +1 bonus on ranged attack. If flanking with a ally I get +2. The bonus seems untyped so assuming it stacks, but at least in the last game, I couldn't get a clear shot
Right now I only have a wisdom of 15 (plan to make it 16 at level 4) so I can change it 2x a day. @TGMax My Stealth is only soso I will get it up to +7 if I go with my armor upgrades, didn't plan to put too many points in there (only the one point atm) But lookout and stealth synergy are good options.
Hey all, my inquisitor hit level 3 and I took rapid shot (already had point blank and precise) For my teamwork feat I took coordinated shot. But if the session is anything like a normal game I'm seeing it as a waste a time. We had two melee druids going in with their pet, along with a fighter and a monk...I couldn't get a straight shot all game. Which even with the massive -4 to hit I was dropping creature pretty well (if the fight looks serious I drop divine favor, which with fate's favored is giving me +3 to hit and damage) but the feat was kind of shorted out. Worse was on the last fight the GM sorta metagamed and had a fear-type spell cast on me in the first round (he admited that I was the target due to my higher level from the party...but how did the boss know in first glance?)Granted I was a level 3 among level 1's and I was ok with being taken out the entire last fight (not saying it sucked but not much could be done when I rolled a 10 total)
Now I'm thinking that I might pick up a cloak of resistance +1 along with a mw buckler and +1 chainshirt (have 2544 gold)which will bring my ac to 20 and my saves up to +4 fort, +6 ref and +6 will. Also thinking about ditching coordinated shot for shake it off to bump my saves a bit further. Am I missing something or is there a different route I should look at?
For 1D8 19-20 crit, I'm not impressed with the dueling sword for a feat. Rapier is better imo (since you really want crit) I would skip dueling mastery as well since you could just get a +1 buckler. Ack forgot that cha for combat expertise...I hope it gets errata'd since it doesn't apply for any improved techniques (maybe the gm would work with you) Anyways the way I went was kind of different I took combat expertise, combat reflexes, agile maneuvers, piranha strike and improved trip (and/or disarm) Extra grit is nice to have (+2 panache) I would take improved crit asap. With such a high intimidate it would be nice to get cornugon smash but probably too much a investment. Anyways it's not optimized but it's how I did it :)
My biggest issue with the Evangelist is the fact that you lose the ability to spontaneously cast a heal spell. Since you are going more a support/buffer role maybe that isn't so much a issue. A slightly different route would be to take the bodyguard feat, basically you can use a attack of opp to give a ally the aid another bonus (+2) I would take fate's favored and adopted (halfling) for the helpful trait, now your bodyguard feat will give your ally +4ac, its still early and I'm drawing a blank, but there is a armor enhancement you can get that adds to that. My GM REALLY dreaded my character :)
Personally that gives your character something to do with your attacks of opp every round, we flavored the bodyguard feat so that my cleric cast a quick cantrip...err orison to give the bonus (same rules just a flavor change) But to summon a creature, buff the party and give 4+ to ac against multiple attacks sounds pretty good to me :)
Wow came home from work with a lot of reading :) First some clarifications: does hexes not work with spell combat? If so, ouch. Also the half elf gets the favored class bonus as the elf? Or do I have to take something special for it?
Sounds like a lot of people are sort of torn on the hexcrafter or Kensai, didn't expect a war :)
So really it comes down to the Kensai being more damage oriented and the hexcrafter being more of a debuffer? The Gm only allows one trait so I have to pick either the shocking grasp or the cold route. If I go the hexcrafter I'm thinking more the str route and if I go Kensai, I would probably go more dex (with combat reflexes to make the most out of it)
Thanks for all the feedback, I'm still learning the magus, he turned out to be a bit more complicated than I expected
@Under Actually if I go hexcrafter (which I'm leaning towards) I'll go heavy into str, kensai seems better with int/dex. I just like the scimitar crit range, thought about going with a feat and taking katana but I thought the exotic route might come back and bite me.
@Corodix, I agree with the save or suck stuff, but you can caste hexes 1x per creature, meaning you have a ton of spells you can cast (think there is a feat which allows you to cast against the creature twice)
@Helvellyn I'll look into the staff magus after work, I like playing something with a different feel to it.
@EvilPaladin: not sure where I'm going yet, I really like both archtypes, just not sure which one.
So you can't use a free action to grab on with both hands while using spellcombat. Sort of odd that a high level character can shoot like 6 arrows but we can't grab onto our hilt :P
@Under Hate to say it but I was thinking the scimitar, any other weapon worth it?
Ok gm wont let the arcane strike work with a divine class (for a house ruling.) So I'm left with only one trait, which I planned on using for adopted- helpful, to give me +4AC to a ally as a attack of opp, the gm requires a trait be used for specifically rise of the rune lords. So my options are to take a race with innate arcane power, or take the feat for more traits maybe fate's favored and a trait for spellcasting. BUT I lose a feat either way, breaking the combat reflexes/bodyguard at level one. I'm thinking about making taking level 1 as a fighter to make up for the loss of the feat (going human atm) anyone see something I'm not seeing?
Yeah but greg what about being able to inflict 1 damage every 5 and/or adding That much AC to a ally? I might ask the GM if he would be ok with the divine alteration, mainly because I forgot he is making us take a runelord trait.
@Magda My plan currently is to use bodyguard. I picked up the trait adopted and then the halfling helpful, so as a attack of opp I can add +4 to a ally's AC. If I can get arcane strike I'm gonna pick up Gloves of arcane striking, which not only allows me to do arcane strike damage to enemies adjacent to the target but also allows me to add the arcane strike bonus to the ac from the bodyguard. Add to that the benevolent armor bonus (which I believe magic vestment will tweak. So when the character is in full swing he can make a attack of opp to either hurt someone or give a ally 6+Ac against the attack.