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Monkplayer wrote:

I was thinking it was something with it's HD + CHA but wasn't positive. So this means the calculation is as follows:

Hit Dice: Change all racial Hit Dice to d8s. Class Hit Dice are unaffected. As an undead, a graveknight uses its Charisma modifier to determine bonus hit points.

He is a 7 level fighter +Graveknight+CR2=HD 9/CR8

His charisma is an 18/+4

!0+4.5 (HD)+4 (cha)=18 reflex saving throw or do you round up so a 19?

Not quite. This graveknight was a 7th level fighter; he thus has 7 hit dice. The CR increase from being a graveknight doesn't increase his hit dice, it just increases his CR.

You also always round down.

So his Devastating Blast save DC is 10 + (7/2) + 4 = 10 + 3 + 4 = 17.

Edit: also, the graveknight template changes racial HD to d8s. The hit dice from levels of fighter aren't racial HD, they're class HD, so they remain d10s. Humans (and elves, dwarves, halflings, etc.) don't have any racial HD.


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I direct your attention to the FAQ:

Yeah, I think I don't like that ruling, as it means no PC will ever bother rolling Spellcraft to make an item. If 10+their Spellcraft modifier isn't high enough, they won't bother trying (50/50 odds or worse are a bad bet). And that is nearly as boring as the 3e magic item creation rules. I'm not sure it's worth the word count spent on them, if it all boils down to "you can make any item with a (modified) caster level of your skill modifier+5 or less; caster level is +5 per missing prereq, and +5 to halve the time."

Plus, no PC will ever actually make a cursed item. I guess they all come from dumb NPCs.


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Are the minis KS exclusive? Are they all repaints of existing minis? Will there be another way to get them, without getting all the PFO stuff?

I'm interested in them and in the mega dungeon, but the PVP sandbox MMO has no real interest to me (it just doesn't sound fun), so I don't want a copy of it. I'll pledge to help get it made in return for PF (not O) stuff, though!


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So if you are water walking in the midst of a perfect storm, you shoot to the top of a 40 ft wave, then it passes, and you fall, right? How much falling damage do you take? Same as falling on firm ground?

Then another wave passes, you shoot to the top, it goes on, you fall -- this could get painful!


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Note that in the world of The Walking Dead, Night of the Living Dead, and hence the entire zombie genre, never existed, per Mazzara and I believe Kirkman. They had no popular concept of shambling dead things until they actually showed up. Notice ho no one ever says the word "zombie".

So no one had ever spent one second pondering how to oppose the hypothetical threat of zombies. Thus, they're making it up as they go.


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The higher of the roll or the average (rounded up - so 4, 5, 6, or 7).

Monster and NPC hit points vary. I tend to use average-rounded-up per die, with big threats getting 65% to 75% or more of max, or rolled like PCs.


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A & D for me, especially D.

"Color art" and "more art" would make excellent stretch goals for Kickstarter. So would E, for that matter.


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Their aura's countermeasure is in the pugwampi writeup; that's the only protection I know of.


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I think it's easy to see that Monkey Lunge and Elephant Stomp are supposed to be beneficial, and it's not too hard to fix them (you get an attack with the lunge, you get an attack in addition to overrunning).

Prone Shooter, on the other hand, is just exceedingly dumb. It is intended to remove non-existent penalties. It is designed to be useless, making it irredeemable.


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James Jacobs wrote:
Before I start answering these... where the heck is Wyroot from?

I'm not the OP, but wyroot is from the Advanced Race Guide (elf section), reprinted in Ultimate Equipment (p. 52).

Edit: the book with the table of holy stuff could be in a big hardback that expands religious options for PCs, details some demigods, and collects all the herald stat blocks. You can call it Advanced Deities and Demigods.


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It says bonus damage dice from bombs aren't multiplied on a critical hit, which implies that the bomb can critically hit, and that the basic d6 and Int bonus are multiplied.

Edit: Ninja'd due to familial delay!


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Ah, but neither does greater magic weapon which is the spell used in creation of magic weapons.

That's not the case; you don't need greater magic weapon or any spell to make a magic weapon with just an enhancement bonus to attack and damage.


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There is a paladin mercy to remove sickness. Spell-wise, heal. Remove sickness and surmount affliction (temporarily), from Ultimate Magic. Cleanse from APG. Nine lives, from ARG.


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I've been thinking the bracers of the falcon are about 12-15,000 gp too cheap, at best. That's assuming the critical hit enhancement is worth 10,000 gp by itself; then add 5000 gp for the attack bonus, 900 gp for the skill bonus, and possibly add +50% to those last two.

4000 gp is way too low, though.


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StreamOfTheSky wrote:
1. Keep in mind, one of the Fighter's class features is being able to throw away low level feats every 4th level to get higher level ones he could not have previously qualified for. Use this. For example, at level 4... you can take Weapon Specialization. But then there's Point Blank Master, which is awesome but requires WS. Guess you just have to tough it out one more level, eh? Nope! Drop an earlier feat and pick it up right then and there! You have the big 3, so you're pretty set. Just as long as you have Weapon Focus and [expendable feat] before level 4, you'll be good. Also keep in mind, nothing is stopping you from say... taking Deadly Aim, swapping it out at 4, getting it back at 5, swapping it out for another new shiny at 8 and getting it back at 9... Just for example.

Note that fighters can only swap out bonus feats. If you take Deadly Aim at 5th level, it isn't as a fighter bonus feat, so you can't swap it later.


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Hey, look, I used Rapid Shot to post!

Bonus content: The adaptive ability doesn't have a limit; it adapts to the user's Str. The user can choose a lower Str, if desired, too.


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Skylancer4 wrote:

Spring attack calls out specifically a single melee attack so I don't even see how you would be starting a full round action.

You aren't getting a "standard action" to do what you want with, you are getting a single melee attack (which is usually a standard action to do). They aren't the same.

I don't think he means "start a full round action in the midst of a Spring Attack", but rather "Spring Attackmis a full round action, and isn't run, charge, withdraw, or full attack, so can you use a standard action to start a Spring Attack and finish it next round?"

Technically, it appears to be possible, but I'd disallow it. It involves discrete actions that are bundled into one full round action as a mechanical convenience, just like run, charge, withdraw, and full attack; ergo, I'd say no on the same grounds.


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Abandoned Arts wrote:
No problem - Liz will probably get a copy out to you on Monday.

And so it has come to pass. Thank you Daron, Rielle, and Liz!


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Tyg-Titter-Tut wrote:
coyote6: Please tell me which Class Act you would like to receive for free.

Whoops, sorry, I thought you'd be done with the freebies already! I'll take the Class Acts: Witches.

Thanks!


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Say, I don't see Pathfinder #4 in Previews for November. Skipping a month, a mistake, or something else?


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I'd like to see some swashbuckling classes, archetypes, and/or options for classes. Stuff so fighting types can get along without heavy armor but without taking the AC hit.

Also, some system that would provide an alternative to the "big six" class of magic items, a la the ideas in the D&D 4e DMG 2. Inherent bonuses or boons or something that would let me ditch the magic items that give plain numeric bonuses so PCs have more use for other kinds of magic items.


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My current favorite game systems are M&M (2e, though 3e is fine), Savage Worlds, GURPS (4e), and Pathfinder, roughly in that order, though it changes based on the genre.

I had fun running the new Mistborn game at Pacificon this last weekend, but I doubt any of my regular groups are going to go for a campaign.

I love the fluff of Shadowrun and Exalted, though the rules aren't my favorite. Exalted 2e is too damned much work to GM for; I'm hoping the upcoming 3e really fixes that. If it does, we might fire up another Exalted game after the Deadlands Reloaded campaign wraps up.

FATE is pretty fun, but I've only played one-shots at cons, never ran it or played a campaign.

I've always wanted to try Earthdawn, but never had the chance. Maybe when FASA comes out with new books, I'll be able to figure out which ones to get.


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It's one use per day, though they let you split up the 9 hours of flying that one use gives you.


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Doom of Demons.


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At current rates, it looks like it might be an hour, maybe two if everyone goes to sleep, before that $100 will also get you 2 storm giants.

I think they've raised $120k in less than 5 hours. If that somehow keeps up, they'll get another million dollars.

Edit: And 37 minutes later, they've hit the next stretch goal. Giants for everyone!


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I'm in.

I'm way, way in.

It's a good thing this is a three paycheck month!


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Move up to the ladder, make a DC 0 Climb check to ascend at 1/4 speed per move action. With a DC 0, most characters should take -5 penalty to make an accelerated climb, and double their ascent rate.

If the PCs are awesome enough, they could also fly, levitate, or teleport up. I guess it might be possible for them to make the DC 80 Acrobatics check to (running) jump up, too.

(Let's see, 7th level barbarian/rogue, Acrobatics as a class skill, Dex 18, with expeditious retreat and a CL 9 jump spell active, and wearing boots of elvenkind -- that gives a 4+7+3+4+12+30+5=+65 to Acrobatics for jumping, so it's possible, though not terrifically likely.)

It might be a good idea to get some concealment -- smokesticks, obscuring mist or fog cloud, if possible, or (better) invisibility. That way you don't take quite as much fire while you're climbing/jumping/flying. Wind wall will stop the arrows, but not spells.


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Maybe let it act as a (or several) page(s) of spell knowledge, which is a new magic item in Ultimate Equipment. They are kind of like pearls of power for sorcerers, except instead of recalling cost spells, each one gives a specific spell known. They're priced like pearls - spell level squared times 1000 gp.

So, maybe a +1 armor bonus, and a 1st level spell known. Maybe endure elements, or a cold spell, if there is a 1st level cold spell.

I got lucky; the scimitar-using fighter PC got engulfed by a mold, and rolled a 4 or some thing on his save. I was worried it would be the monk/wizard-to-be, or the elf ranger who had the Reclaiming Your Roots trait and was carrying his dead daddy's bow.


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Drag, reposition, & bull rush on the rider all ought to work, as they can move the rider from his mount's space, and it's hard to be mounted if you aren't actually on the mount.

I let someone use trip to unseat a rider in a 3e game; not sure if I would do the same in PF or not. Probably -- all those polearms with trip got their hooks in order to pull down riders, IIRC. It's not like the game needs another combat maneuver and the traditional chain of feats (Improved, Greater, Quick, etc). (I tend to think bull rush, reposition, and drag are too many separate options to move a person around, & could use some combining.)

I'd likely let the rider add any military saddle bonus to Ride to their CMD, or even use 10+ their Ride score in place of CMD.


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I think I would want to stagger some of the every 3/4/5 level bonuses, so there aren't those big bumps at those levels. E.g., +1 to armor or shield at level 3, increasing by one every 4 levels thereafter, with the bonus to the other starting at level 4. That way the boosts are a little more spread out.

I'd also start the ability boosts later - generally, no one has a 4k +2 ability item at 3rd level, IME. At 3rd, they usually are still working their way to that first real BBEG, who will. Have that first headband/belt. So, start them at 5th level, maybe, then every 3 levels or so. Though everyone will probably pump their prime stat first, and a +6 by 9th or 11th seems fast. Maybe treat it like a favored enemy? +2 at 5th, then at 9th that goes to +4 and you get +2 to another stat?

I do hope Ultimate Campaign has some concrete Xmas tree reduction and low(er) magic item options.


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Fortunately, that nausea has a cure when you're a PC -- kill them. Kill them all.

I think the players were most disturbed when, after all the earlier stuff, they fought Mammy and she cast black tentacles (I switched her to a witch, so her spells had to be switched up some). They really really didn't want anything to do with any tentacles she conjured up.


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I liked the comic overall - the story and characters were fine. It was a good start.

I wasn't fond of the art, though. It seemed overly ... muddy? That's the word that comes to mind. I need to read it again, and give the art another try. I definitely preferred the art on, say, the Fell's Five D&D comic.


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Shifty wrote:
I assume the Dracolich is more of a shelf dresser showpiece? Can't see THAT hitting a table :0

Eh, I used WotC's colossal red dragon in a game, along with (separately) the gargantuan black and the gargantuan white. I'm going to try to fit the gargantuan blue dragon into my Legacy of Fire game somewhere. That dracolich would fit -- somewhere. :)

The oh-crap look on the players' faces when I set the colossal red dragon on the table and said, "This is Ashardalon. Yes, that is the correct size relative to the PC figures" -- magnificent.


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Demon Blight Crusade -- the next AP after Reign of Winter. Mentioned in the Mythic thread.

Mythic Adventures -- mythic add-on rules for Pathfinder, to enable stuff like PCs fighting demon lords and the like. Open playtest starts next month-ish. Thread here, suggestion thread here

Chronicles of Righteousness -- covers angel lords, sounds like the good version of the Books of the Damned. Mentioned here.

Champions of Good -- part of the Player's Companion line. Also mentioned here.

Munchkin Pathfinder -- not from Paizo, but licensed from Paizo. Munchkin the card game, with Pathfinder flavor. License signing here.

You should be able to search the boards for those titles to find out more info, and lots of speculation.


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So I haven't tried painting a mini since the '80s. Can someone tell me if those $18 starter paint sets on the Kickstarter are good deals or not? Can I get decent paints cheaper elsewhere? [/newb]


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The tables are split as "lesser minor", "greater minor", "lesser medium", "greater medium", "lesser major", and "greater major". Potions, scrolls, and wands are also divided into common and uncommon categories.

So, if you have a scroll, you roll a d100 on a table classified as lesser/greater minor/medium/major; that gives you a spell level. Then you roll once to see if it's common/uncommon arcane/divine (45% common arcane, 15% uncommon arcane, 30% common divine, 10% uncommon divine). Then you roll on the appropriate specific table to see what spell.


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That's not what Large and in Charge did. It let you make an opposed Str check to push your foe back if you hit with an AoO provoked by movement. Essentially, it let Large creatures with reach hold people at bay.

Edit: it was the Knock Down feat. It let you make a free trip attack whenever you did 10+ damage in melee.


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Hmm, that kind of sucks for Ultimate Equipment -- the dwarven longhammer isn't in the weapon tables, and isn't listed in the fighter weapon groups. Yet the rod of dwarven might is in UE, and can turn into a longhammer. But if you just have UE, you wont have any info on a longhammer. D'oh.

Personally, i'd say the longhammer goes in both the hammers and pole arms groups.


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If you're talking about the Shift ability of the Teleportation School, it's not a spell. It's a supernatural ability, so no AoO, no concentration checks, none of that -- it just works.


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As I understand it, the freelancer turns over their work, then development and editing go over it, and often (sometimes? Usually? Rarely?) make changes. How can a freelancer possibly playtest that?

Personally, the existence of something like the Prone Shooter feat in a published book makes me doubt the existence of any inherent superiority of quality of that publisher's material over all other publishers. That's like Fast Forward Entertainment levels of bad.


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Adamantine Dragon wrote:
Staves should be to wizard spell casting what magical enhancements are to martial combat attacks. They should make your spells more effective.

Have you seen Super Genius Games' Rune Staves & Wyrm Wands? It's pretty awesome, I think. Easily expanded, too.


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Pick a god who has dwarven waraxe as a favored weapon?


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Note that Ultimate Equipment has a longer section on masterwork tools, on p. 78. It basically agrees with a lot of what Knight Magenta wrote -- tools should either have a limited number uses (a la the healing kit) or apply only to some aspects of a skill.


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Liz Courts wrote:
We have a number of Nyambe material here on Paizo.com as well.

Hah! I knew I should've searched Paizo, but I was too lazy, and I already had e23 open in another tab, trying to decide whether to buy the new GURPS 4e PDF now or wait until I get paid. :)

Meanwhile, back on the thread's topic, I'd love to see Paizo adopt Open Design's Spell-less Ranger.


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Cheapy wrote:
"Nyambe"?

Nyambe, from Atlas Games. Originally for 3e. It's out of print, but you can find it -- Amazon Marketplace, for example. Or get the PDF from e23.

I liked it, though I never got to use it. I was going to use it to populate a continent on Oerth, but the PCs never followed that plot hook.


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I'd like to see a means by which the ability to detect & disarm magical traps can be acquired in play through some means other than class or archetype. Right now, you either have to choose correctly at character creation, or multiclass. PF seems to fairly strongly discourage most multiclassing (it immediately locks out capstone abilities, limits other class abilities, etc), so it kind of sucks if you have to "dip" into rogue or some other class-and-archetype just to get one ability.

Thus, I'd like to see a trait, feat, magic item, or some other option that an alert tinkerer mid-level ranger who keeps running into strange mystic traps in pyramids could choose to become capable of dealing with them during the course of a game.

(By January, I imagine the PCs in my Legacy of Fire game may be searching for such an option. :) )


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I was hoping the ring of force shield would get its price cut; it seems way overpriced at 8500 go. I think I house-ruled it to 4500 (bonus^2 * 1000 gp + 500).

The ring of forcefangs seems sweet, if maybe kind of cheap - nigh-immunity to all force spells for 8000 gp?

I think I'm going to love those treasure tables.


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According to my order history, I got the first two volumes of PF for $0, so I guess my subscriptions were nearly out. I seem to remember that I was just about to renew when the end of the (printed, Paizo-produced) magazines was announced.

I kept the subscription even for a couple of years where I didn't really expect to ever run D&D again. Really, if it weren't for the APs, I probably wouldn't be running any D&D or D&D-derived game right now.

2007 was also the first year I went to Gen Con. I died a couple of times in that delve. Danged fireball trap!


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If you reverse engineer the numbers, a dire bat has 4 skill ranks to spend, and the listed skills break down as:

Fly +9 = -2 size, +4 maneuverability, 2 Dex, 2 ranks, 3 class skill
Perception +12 = 4 racial, 2 Alertness, 2 Wis, 1 rank, 3 class skill
Stealth +4 = 2 Stealthy, 2 Dex, -4 size, 1 rank, 3 class

So the dire bat's Fly skill modifier includes the maneuvability bonus, AFAICT.


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Erik Mona wrote:
HangarFlying wrote:
Why is the shining child a common?

Because I figured people might want to use more than one of them.

I suspect the players in my group might riot if I did that. One shining child almost did 'em all in. :)

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