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RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32. RPG Superstar 2015 Star Voter. Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber; Pathfinder Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Roleplaying Game Subscriber. FullStarFullStarFullStar Pathfinder Society GM. 237 posts (247 including aliases). 5 reviews. 1 list. 2 wishlists. 17 Pathfinder Society characters.


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Liberty's Edge RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

So, campaign spoilers for my own campaign, the Wounded World ahead. if you play in this game, please don't venture into the spoiler area....


My current campaign is leading up to someone trying to let Rovagug out. How? Well, see if you can follow this logic (or tell me if you disagree)...

  • Abadar has a Vault where the most "perfect" item of every item is kept.
  • Asmodeus has the key that will unlock Rovagug.
  • Perhaps there is a key, a perfect key, in the Vault of Abadar that will unlock the Cage in which Rovagug is imprisoned.
  • Get that key (somehow).
  • Avoid Asmodeus and Sarenrae and all the rest and make your way to the Pit of Gormuz
  • Descend into the Pit of Gormuz. When you hit bottom and you have the key, Rovagug will eat you and then use the key to escape.

At least that is how it plays out in my mind. The players will be chasing after the guy with the key.

Liberty's Edge RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32 , Star Voter 2015 aka catdragon

theheadkase wrote:
Robert, you might want to redact your post and add the item directly to the List Everyone Can Edit

Thanks! :)

Liberty's Edge RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

JPSTOD wrote:
Posted the Maps at er-manor.html#post254232

Link doesn't appear to be working. Additionally i dived into the forums and the galleries and couldn't find it anywhere.

Could you double check the web address?

Liberty's Edge RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

I was curious also about the work mythic...

Liberty's Edge RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32


Looking forward to seeing what's next on your agenda for this.

Liberty's Edge RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

Anyone happen to notice that the link for the large sized picture at the top sends you to the home page? Disappointing my computer for a new desktop. :)

Liberty's Edge RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

Dragonchess Player wrote:

I did have one minor disappointment: Klarkosh is supposed to be "an initiate of Numeria's Technic League," but has very little "technological" flavor other than crafting automatons.

So I modified his stat block to give him a more "Numerian" feel, using the Technology Guide (TG) and some alternate spells from Advanced Player's Guide (APG), Ultimate Magic (UM), and Ultimate Combat (UC). If anyone else wants to use it, see below:

Klarkosh ** spoiler omitted **...

Wow! Fantastic! Thanks so much for sharing this with us

Liberty's Edge RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

I compromised. The Hellknights asked for one share of whatever loot the party brings out as well as access to anything they deemed "too dangerous for the general populace." Additionally the Hellknight insisted on rights to first buy anything that they could use -- specifically masterwork weapons and armor.

Remember the Hellknights are, as a general rule, LN tending towards E. They aren't there to make the PCs miserable. They are there to provide a bastion of civilization, law and order, in the middle of a wilderness. The HK know that the PCs adventuring in the area might make things more chaotic for a while, but eventually the PCs will move on and then the HK can keep control.

Additionally, having the PCs in town makes it easier for the HK to keep an eye on the adventurers.

If the PCs decide to camp away from town, let 'em. The HK won't care as long as they don't do anything that compromise their laws. Of course, since Fort Inevitable is the closest market, the PCs may be dealing with lengthy over land travel that are not patrolled by the HK.

Remember the HK will only be adversaries to the party if the party *wants* them to be adversaries. They have the choice to make the enemy. the Hellknights will react appropriately.

Liberty's Edge RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

So my players' character made it down to Splinterden....


where they fought all the low-level mooks in the main part of the complex. They did a fairly efficient job, keeping them from sounding the alarm. So they look around and proceed to search every room... until they hit the gibbering mouther. Which ended the life of our brave tiefling paladin/bloodrager...

With that, the group decided to head out, get their companion raises/reincarnated/whatever they could..

That being said, Splinterden is being left alone for a good 4-5 days. Being a living level, i know that the NPCs are going to take action, but i am not sure what. Any ideas? How would the bandits reinforce their hideout? Or would they take off?


I thought about redoing the synesthesia gas trap with something nastier, but that might be a bit too much, especially considering the bandits live there!

Think it possible that the bandits could recruit more mooks? Or hire a specialist to watch for adventurers (medium level mage or someone/thing that specializes in dealing with groups?


Maybe a ratling/ratfolk mage who has charmed or made friends with an otyugh?
Or a small group of Wolfmane mercenaries?
Maybe they pay a bonus to Klarkosh to get some constructs/automatons for guards?
They might even make a deal with a moon spider on the level above?

Any one have any suggestions?

Liberty's Edge RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

Chanting, "Nicolas Logue, Nicolas Logue, Nicolas Logue, Nicolas Logue..."

I agree, and adventure by Nicolas Logue in Absalom would be a must have, get it now, kind of thing for me.

Liberty's Edge RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

John the Cab wrote:

My solution was to add an encounter that I think is sorely missing.

My Encounter:
** spoiler omitted **...

Great encounter. It has been appropriated for my own use.

Hower.... I hate to question another's use of language, but i found a couple of places where i didn't understand what you were trying to say, most notably "You may chose to due the Knights."


I chose to interpret this as "You may choose to help the Knights."

But, as i said, it has been snagged for my own use.

Liberty's Edge RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

Anyone have any idea what the the prerequisites for taking a Silvanshee as a familiar are? Other than ND and the Advanced familiar feat of course...

Liberty's Edge RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

I've been looking for the city stat blocks for the major cities around Echo Wood. Not having much luck beyond Carrion Crown. Can anyone point me in the right direction?


All three have escaped by Google-fu....

Liberty's Edge RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

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I have thrown together a document with runes I have culled from elsewhere in the webs. This document has the graphic of the Emerald Spire's level runes, and a list of places it can be found within the Emerald Spire (hopefully I haven't missed a reference).

Comments and suggestions are welcome, even desired.

They can be found here, The Emerald Spire Runes

Liberty's Edge RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

Chris Mortika wrote:
The Sword Emperor wrote:

Here's my concern for the second level of the Spire: more darkness effects. Granted, much of the floor is easy to see with a torch. However, there's one big problem.


I ran the top two levels of the dungeon at a convention this past weekend.

I concur almost entirely with the Sword Emperor's critique of the tower ruins and the level underneath. The darkness effect in the castle itself was frustrating for the party. The same with the obscuring mist.

But, thinking back, I may have been playing the darkness effect in the tower ruins incorrectly. The party encountered the ruins during the day, and I'm not sure how much sunlight would normally get through the green glass ceilings. It's plausible that the ambient lighting of the place would be dim light. So, concealment for the goblins running around in the twilit rooms and corridors, but not total concealment.


Unfortunately, IIRC, the darkness effects on the 1st level are always on. The goblins aren't affected since they have darkvision.

When I run this, I plan on modifying the light levels on level 1 so that it will never get brighter than dim light. That way even the non-darkvision and non-low-light PCs will still be effective.

Liberty's Edge RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

John Compton wrote:
catdragon wrote:
Anyone have an idea when the chronicles for Emerald Spire: PFS play will be come available?
Please see this update in the module's product discussion thread.

Thanks John. I appreciate the point and and the information.

Liberty's Edge RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

Anyone have an idea when the chronicles for Emerald Spire: PFS play will be come available?

Liberty's Edge RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

Gladior wrote:
Has anyone seen/made any player handouts that show what the various levels' transport sigils for the Spire look like?

Depends on how complicated/artistic you want them to be. There is this or this.

Also you can do a google search for numbers and runes. I suggest this one.

however, if anyone else comes up with an interesting idea, i would be very interested in seeing it/them.

Liberty's Edge RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

So far, and i am only half way through, my biggest complaint is the lack of ties to the outside world. As the character progress in level, things should be happening outside and no mention is made of what these things might be. Sure as the GM I could make assumption and follow rabbits off to their destinations, and I do do this.

I would love more information on Fort Inevitable and its residents. Such as how active are the Seven Foxes? Will they get aggressive enough to actually take action? How would the Hellknights respond?

Also there are several NPCS that are very interesting...


Davon Stonde's "goblin fort" What exactly is this or what was it before it became a ruin? What can be expected to be found there?

Naldred Tillman's night hag visits... eventually the night hag will kill someone, probably Naldred (no offense but the indentured or the slaves, but only the most AR Hellknight would investigate fully). What then? Nice side quest if a number of people through the city start dying.

Gertrand Yeldun aka Naxan: okay a doppleganger. cool. What are his long term aims and goals? What other identies does he have?

Londor Sefurd, spy for the Hellknights. What kind of things does he report on? What does the Council of Prosperity do that the Hellknights need to keep such a close eye on?

Very small population of halflings and gnomes But a whole lot of half-orcs. Guess the Hellknights might be a popular career choice for lawful half-orcs.

Other unanswered things that would be nice to have...


new types of undead are referenced at least twice in the text. What kind of undead? How do the NPCs know about them?

How and why is the grain disappearing from the granary?

How extensive are the town's sewers? Who built them? Who maintains them?

How in the heck to the Echo Wood brigands get in and out of the 3rd level of the Spire? Through the second and the first? Seems like a long dangerous way for them to travel.

Now before anyone says, you can make all that up yourself, yes, that's true. But what i am looking to do is make the Emerald Spire more of a center of a campaign. And to me that means it needs to have ties and connections to the outside world.

Liberty's Edge RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

I miss him already. Sniff, sniff.

Liberty's Edge RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

Seems like there ought be more evil gods...

But that is probably just my opinion.

Liberty's Edge RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

I have that as well. The links take you back to the store blog.

Liberty's Edge RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

I use greed rolls.

Before i explain that, at 1st level the characters always get max hps.

At 2nd and high levels, the player rolls. If he doesn't like what he rolls, he can roll again. But of the 2nd die roll is less than or equal to the first roll, that's it. No more rolls and that is what the character gains at that level. So theoretically the character can roll his character's hit die over and over until he hits max hp.

However, the odds are against him.

And that, my friends, is why i call it greed rolls.

Liberty's Edge RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

GM Elton wrote:

I just hope that your party cleric realizes that he's in the game. If not, I'll just ask Catdragon to make a character.

Aw, shucks! Thanks.

Liberty's Edge RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

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Wow. really enjoying this. Thanks for all your hard work.

Liberty's Edge RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

something i thought of today, after dealing with my party on Saturday, are the serpentfolk's telepathy blocked by anything? In the case of the serpentfolk, 100' is the range limitation.

But do door's block it?
3' of stone?
antimagic field?
wall of force?

Anyone have any ideas and how did you handle it in your game?

Liberty's Edge RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

I have to say that I am fascinated with the world/game you are putting together. Unfortunately i just don't have the time to devote to it that a player would need to do it justice. I hope you let bystanders in when you actually start play.

Thanks for stimulating my imagination!

Liberty's Edge RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

Good gawds, almost 1500 posts..

one monster i would love to see is Scylla, from the Odyssey.

But then again, some the iconic one of kind monsters from Greek mythology would be fun.

Calydonian Boar
Caucasian Eagle
Centaurs Arcadian
Centaurs Thessalian
Cerberus (i am sure he has been done in various forms)
Cerynitian Deer
Colchian Dragon
Cretan Bull
Crommyon Sow
Ethiopian Sea Monster
Hesperian Dragon
Ismenian Dragon
Marathonian Bull
Nemean Lion
Stymaphalian Birds
Teumessian Fox
Trojan Sea Monster

Liberty's Edge RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

I'm expecting my Serpent's Skull campaign to end around 18th-20th level. Near the end I will be adding challenges and the such to push them higher than the modules say, but then again my players want to hit 20th is at all possible.

So if i have to make the end game tougher and more elaborate who am I to say no? :)

But if i was to run the campaign as written, i would expect 18th level.

I also ran Rise of the Runelords under 3.5 rules and the characters finished at 18th level.

Liberty's Edge *** RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

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Wish i had found this thread before i ran the first part of the module. It would have been a great help. Anyhow, I also added a few games...

Carnival games:

Hoop Toss
This game consists of a narrow, deep booth with numerous barrels of different sizes, from thin ones to thick ones, at one end. The barker entreats you to toss a hoop towards the barrels, succeed in "hooping" a barrel to win the game.
Cost to play the game is 2 cp.
There are four different sizes of barrels. The thinnest barrels require a ranged to hit roll against AC 13. The next largest are AC 15, the third largest AC 17, and the largest barrel is AC 19. Alternatively, one can try to hoop two barrels together, though the barrels have been placed so that this is much harder than it looks (AC 24).

Egg Shuffle
The barker shows the player a blue quartz marble and places it under an wooden half-egg and shuffles the five half-eggs around. The goal of the player to guess which egg has the stone underneath it. This requires a DC 18 Perception check. If the player succeeds he gets 2 cp back. The cost to play the game is 1 cp.


average worth 1 cp
1 Copper necklace
2 Wooden whistle
3 Carved wooden soldier
4 Piece of hard candy

average worth 2 cp
1 Copper necklace with a small flawed gem (d6: 1 agate; 2 blue quartz; 3 malachite; 4 obsidian; 5 tiger eye; 6 turquoise)
2 Varisian Matryoshka dolls (3)
3 Headband of brightly colored feathers
4 Wooden holy symbol of Erastil

average worth 5 cp
1 Wooden flute
2 Stuffed firepelt cougar
3 Copper ear jewelry with gems (d6: 1 agate; 2 blue quartz; 3 malachite; 4 obsidian; 5 tiger eye; 6 turquoise)

4 Copper bracelet

average worth 1 sp
1 Pan pipes
2 Song bird in a small cage
3 Wooden dancing shoes
4 Set of 5 wooden animal figures

average worth 2 sp
1 Porcelain statue of a dragon
2 Pouch of pepper
3 Free admission to next day's show (not available on last day of the carnival)
4 Cloak with the Umbra Carnival's Logo sewn into the back

Also as i prepare i am finding mistakes in the stat blocks. Basically Weapon Focus with people that don't have a BAB of +1 yet. But Borvius Monchello has too many feats. Again, not again deal, but annoying to my OCD-ness. :)

Lastly, I'm looking for the GM Shared prep... looking, but can't find it. Any anyone direct me? Edit: nevermind Found it!

Liberty's Edge RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

Okay, well, I am imagining patrols of ages and their allies roaming the streets and causing trouble. You know, poking their noses into something they shouldn't and leading whatever they riled out towards the PCs. So here's a random encounter table off the top of my head.

I would love some suggestions.

1d4 dire apes (Bestiary 17) CR 5
1 mummy (Bestioary 210) CR 5
2d4 charau-ka thugs (PF39, p19) CR 8
1d4 girallons (Bestiary 154) CR 8
1 tyrannasaurus (Bestiary 86) CR 9
4 derhii (PF40, p19) CR 10
3 charau-ka and 4 dire apes (PF40, p50 and bestiary 17) CR 11
4 serpendfolk seekers (PF40, p36) CR 11
8 derhii (PF40, p19) CR 12
8 charau-ka (PF40, p50) CR 13
8 serpentfolk seekers (PF40, p36) CR 13
1d4 stone golems (Bestiary 163) CR 13
1 obambo (PF40, p81) CR 13
12 serpentfolk seekers (PF40, p36) CR 14
1 popobala (PF40, p84) CR 15

Liberty's Edge RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

Well, the title says it all. The players were overconfident and when the challenges came about, they failed in the test of Strength and Combat, but won the test of Storytelling.

So they lost and the Gorilla King wants the city.

How can i work this so the players (and their characters) have to deal with the repercussions? I don't want to make it too tough and i don't want it too easy. And i want it to definitely have an effect in the game story.

A bit on that: The campaign has derailed in several places but thanks be to luck, guile, and cunning on my part, the story line is fairly close to the way the books describe. However the PCs have changed a number of things. The PCs managed to talk the pathfinders into allying themselves with the Sargavans. Additionally the characters went out of their way not to offend or get in the Red Mantis' way. So the RM have their artifact sword.

The Aspis Consortium has been destroyed (at the end of book 3). The Free Captains have been dealt with (by an attack by the Arpis and an encounter with ghosts when they set their camp up in a bad part of the city).

I have also introduced a new faction: the Razmirians. The Masks as the PCs like to call them, are exploring the southern part of the city. the PCs believe that the Razmirians are being controlled by a Moonbeast and Denizens of Leng (and I am not say here whether or not that is the truth since i know some of my players lurk in these electrons).

So what am i asking for? Advice, suggestions, and ideas. I would really appreciate anything no matter how off the wall it might seem.

Liberty's Edge *** RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

Wow. Nice. Thanks for sharing

Liberty's Edge RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32 , Star Voter 2015 aka catdragon

are the oozes affected by the fey mists? Or does the ooze, as it gains intelligence, then gets affected by the Feymist?

Liberty's Edge RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

I wasn't referring to any particular NPC. I just remember a lot of NPC with the phase of using vital strike and spring attack in their tactics.

Listed In Their Tactics
Monastic Sniper, p 104
Grove Guardian, p 109
Vault Breaker, p 206
Iron Duelist, p 218

Have Both Feats
Giant Slayer, p 17
Dath Whisperer, p 158
Darkstar, p 239
Master Duelist, 219
Golem-Breaker, p 141
Pirate Queen, p 133
Ageless Master, p 111

In retrospect there are only 4 that have it in their stat block.But IMO, that is 4 too many.

Liberty's Edge RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

And don't forget the myriad characters that use vital strike with spring attack.

Liberty's Edge RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

Snorb wrote:
Oh, and they killed the spider after I drop dead. My friend who plays Advokat says of this whole affair, "Y'know, this was a @$&#ing brilliant idea that @#% noblewoman had! 'Oh! Let's hire a thug, a lawyer, a private eye, a peasant with a sling, and a halfling and hope they can find the most powerful artifact in the world! THIS IS A GREAT IDEA!'"

LOL! I just snorted diet coke over my keyboard! And at work too! That's a great line.


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Arnwyn wrote:

I wonder if that's enough?

In fact, one might wonder if the Paizo APs are, in the end, just for Paizo Messageboard Users...

Wow. Universe revolve around you much?

I'm sorry that just came off nasty and that wasn't my intent.

(Well, perhaps a little (: ).

Mainly the good folks at Paizo only have a few ways to determine what their customer base wants. The forums are probably the one they see day in and day out. to mean, that means that its fair to assume that whats on the message boards is what the consumers want.

After all if you are a consumer and you don't tell the service provider what you want, you have to be satisfied with what is delivered to you.

Lastly, all the APs are are a collection of themed, perhaps sequential, encounters. if you don't want to have the dungeons, don't use them and convert the room to room encounters to NPC meeting to NPC meeting encounters. Its a lot of work, but it can be done.

Liberty's Edge RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

Want to buy a bridge?

In the boxed text for when the PCs get Maroux to a friendly status, she says:


...that Sorshen really is alive and well in the Lady’s Light, but if you believe that claptrap, there’s a bridge across the Straits of Aroden I’d like to sell ya!”

Um... isn't there a bridge over the straits of Aroden? <> Though here is calls the straits the Straits of Hespereth. However, elsewhere (Council of Thieves, part 4) its referred to as the Straits of Aroden...

Anyone have an explanation?

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ikki3520 wrote:

Cathedral of ascension could work that way.

Going across in the first paragraph, entering the gates and the grand gates shut close.

You wont get out as a mortal, so either ascend or fail and die.
So downwards into the dungeons the path takes.. all 6 installments, until at last either divinity of final death is achieved.

Can you tell us more about Cathedral of Ascension? i don't think i have ever heard of it before and my Google-fu didn't find it.


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Very nice! Thanks?!

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As a player in this campaign, I have to say that FallenValkyrja is selling herself short. She is a fantastic GM and doesn't let the metagamers and rules-lawyers get away with much (and yes, i am referring to myself, though i like role-play too). She is doing a great job!

My favorite moment so far has been sabotaging Fipps. he spent the entire day working on ropes, tying them in knows and getting them to hang correctly for Plug. Only to have the water wizard (my character) cast animate ropes and ruin the entire job.

And don't even get me started on the Plug Club....

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SirGeshko wrote:

I started pulling a list of settlements out of the ISWG, when I realized I might not be able to share my work with fellow gamers, due to the Community Use Policy.

Would something so innocuous as a list of settlements, their populations, and the approximate distances between them along trade routes be prohibited?

I would love to see something like this. I created one for my old 2nd edition FR campaign and it amazed me how much trouble and time is saved in my game.

As for whether its covered by whatever, that's a question for the good folks at Paizo.

Liberty's Edge RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

might want to break it down by level as will. What arcane spells do you have to worry about between 1st and 5th level? Obviously the level 1-3 spells. :) But how many enchantment spells are there versus evocation spells at that level.

So I guess my choices would be

3rd level) Enchantment
7th level) Evocation
11th level) Necromancy
15th level) Conjuration

Liberty's Edge RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

Augary only answers weal or woe for a single situation btw.

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Brogue The Rogue wrote:

You never camp out in dungeons, preparing before you open doors into unknown threats?

And hour's not that much, especially if you have a prepared caster in the group. Just because you're not sure how to make it effective doesn't make it ineffective. ;-)

Sounds like a challenge... How would ypu make it effective you where playing the character with the ability?

And for the record, i just don't like the half-hour limit. I think its very effective, just not useful because of the half hour thingee.

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At level 1-4, after an hour ritual, its not powerful at all.

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In short, the text says that it acts as the auguary spell. Does that mean it is only for the half hour after the hour of writing? That seems too limiting. But at the same time, i dont want to grant the ability too much power. Any suggestions?

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Personally, I would rule that produce flame just doesn't work that way. The spell creates a ball of flame that you can throw or push in someone's face. Note that the spell description says "Effect flame in your palm."

When the dragon disciple attacks with his claws, he's attacking with his claws not slapping his opponent across the face.

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Thats great news. Wish i lived closer to Asheville so i could be there.

Good luck, and perhaps one day i can visit y'all and game.

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