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John Lynch 106 wrote:
It feels like it's taking a system that's meant to say "hey. Not everyone makes the best choices. Here's a system to let them undo some of those mistakes" and transforming it into yet another way to eke out yet more power for your character.

What about those who can make the best choices, and don't make mistakes?

Can they not retrain, just because they have better system mastery?

If it was two different players, and they both made the same build, with the same choices, and both want to retrain the same way, would you allow one to do so, but not the other, just because one knew they wanted to do it earlier?


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John Lynch 106 wrote:

So you deliberately took a feat you intended to retrain at a later level? For me retraining exists so you can say "I took this and it hasn't been as enjoyable/useful as I thought, I'd like to swap it out." If people are starting to factor it into builds I'm inclined to not use it officially and instead allow retrains in exceptional circumstances.

RAW you probably can. But I'd be unimpressed as a GM.

Why would it matter?


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Adamantine Revolver, for pure cool factor.


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What if the Pyro's defense was something that gave concealment/miss chance?

Use heat aura, smoke, flickering flame, or some other flavor, and just go at it.

I would rather have something that actually might cause my enemies to not to hit me, than some effect, that may, or may not, hurt them a little, if they hit me, under very specific conditions.


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Armor Spikes are a weapon.

You treat them, price them, and think of them, as a weapon.

Nobody gets an Adamantine weapon for 50gp.

You keep noting how only the prevalent material counts.

That is true, but for Armor, or Weapons. So, you couldn't have a Mithral/Adamantine Fullplate, that provides DR, and is treated lighter.

You also couldn't have a Silver/Adamantine Scimitar, that bypasses the DR of both.

You can, however, have a suit of Mithral Fullplate, with Adamantine Armor Spikes.

Now, in that example, the Mithral Fullplate, with Adamantine Armor Spikes, never gives you the benefit that Adamntine Fullplate would, as the Armor, is not Adamantine. Also, the Armor Spikes would not gain the benefit of being Mithral, as they are not Mithral.

Do you understand?


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A custom stat array for your campaign may be what you are looking for.


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Why not just ban full casters, and stick with a 20 point buy?


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Did someone mention Rogues?

I think it should said again, if so.


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Oh text!

How you so poorly you display tone.


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Jayson MF Kip wrote:

Pushing past the logical extreme aside, "most of PFS." Not everyone plays the game like you.

What do you mean, like me?

If I use a little block of wood for my mini, and nobody knows the character's name, or description, what game am I playing?


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Focus on Diplomacy.

Convince the Hobo to fight for you.


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I just have a hard time dealing with being less powerful than the Elite Array Warrior, or Aristocrat.

I mean, even the Gamemastery Street Beggar is more powerful.

This means you are the heroes, but some random Hobo is better than you.


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Paladin simply cannot worship evil gods.

Nothing "illegal" here.

Also, the name of a class, is just that.

A name.

Your Ninja can be as righteous and good, as they want to be.

A Paladin can be sneaky if he wants.

Oh, and I will admit, I openly laughed at "Ninja, overpowered?" title.

I wanted so bad, for there to be a "Wizards, underpowered?" thread right next to it.


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It's really easy.

Two-weapon Fighting = extra attack + penalties.

No extra attack?

Then you are not two weapon fighting, you have none of the restrictions, and none of the penalties.

That's it.


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I have noticed a trend in a number of PFS games, that other than your Race and Class(and sometimes god), nobody gives a damn about your character.

I have been in games, where I have no idea what any of my fellow PCs even look like. Your basic look, attitude, and assumed tactics, are already preprogrammed into everyone's mind, based on these two aspects.

I have, at times, felt no desire to create a look, or any flavor, for my PFS PCs, as it seems meaningless, and never comes up.

Has anyone else had any similar experiences?

If so, how have you handled them?


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...the DM asks "Name, Race, Class? Okay, I have all I need to know about your characters."


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Lucky for me, my DM in my Kingmaker game has ruled that the properties remain Transmutative.


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You know what can grant me a bonus to just about any skill?

A Masterwork Tool. 50gp.+2.

Oh, and it can add flavor too.

I don't need to take time to convince my DM, or expect table variation in PFS.

I can have a number of them too. 8, in fact, for the price of this.

That's 8 skills, with a +2 bonus.

All full of flavor, and roleplaying opportunities.

Don't stick your nose in the air.

If you are a good enough roleplayer, you can take a mechanical bonus, and still make it flavorful.

These need not be separate.

Don't anyone dare say they are a better roleplayer, just because they got the expensive item with no mechanical advantage, over the reasonably priced item, with a mechanical advantage, that fill the same damn roll.


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I don't think criticizing others for not loving the class exactly as is helps.

In fact, it's rude, and destroys the point of the playtest.

Stop it.


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The Gunslinger is a Martial class, that is designed to deal damage.

The Gunslinger doesn't have spells, that bring tons of extra utility.

I would never compare the Magus to the Gunslinger.


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I don't like the game being compared to mmos, diablo, borderlands, etc.

I don't want to play those games. I want to play Pathfinder.

I also don't like the "I don't care why you don't like it, you're wrong, because it's perfect" comments.

That is rude, and it doesn't help.

Don't do that.


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I don't think this should spiral down into an attack on organized religion, or it's members, or members of any faith.


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Just to inform other posters.

It is okay to criticize.

Do not be afraid!

Be courteous, and constructive, but do not silence yourself.

That is the whole point of the Playtest. Speak your thoughts.


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If the Pyrokineticist can have some way of dealing with natural energy resistance, then I am sold.

I still advocate a "Burn Pool" of sorts, that a Kineticist can call upon, prior to taking damage.


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Have they given you a reason why?

That would be key to coming up with a solution.


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This is a grapple.

Ride doesn't come into play here.


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Don't forget some of the Vampire-only feats.

Improved Bestial Transformation, Improved Swarm Form, and Improved Gaseous Form are pretty cool.


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Panache can be regained, easily, and running out doesn't bring you closer to being knocked unconscious.

The idea that you basically have to suck balls, or constantly be an damaged state just doesn't sit well.

No class has this kind of drawback.

None.


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I don't see why both cannot be applied.

This is absolutely nothing like Vital Strike and Spring Attack.


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Yeah, you are not "wrong".

It's just not explicitly covered, so you did the DM thing, and made a ruling.

Everyone seems happy, and if so, you did good.


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Dragon78 wrote:
I doubt firestarter had 14+ Con and the only type of bender that would be based on Con(maybe Str) would be earth but even then I doubt Toph had more then 14 Con. Since a Kineticist's ability to withstand a hit had to do with there kinetic abilities to resist, deflect, or nullify the attack not there HP/Con.

What if I want to play a Kineticist, that is not a bender?

What if I really don't want it to resemble a bender at all?


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Good point.

Just be Tom Cruise. Start out as a Drunken Rager, then retrain to be a Samurai later.


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So, no matter how high all your mental scores are, you are still "dumb", unless you have the right creature type?

How do Awakened animals work?

What are the "always dumb" types?

Where is the rules for this "always dumb" clause?


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I am still thrilled about this Destined Bloodrager/Oracle idea.

If no one does this, I may just have to steal it.


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Are we basing this on type?

Are all the Sphinx, just dull minded animals, incapable of anything complex, like, hmm, a riddle contest?


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So, the 10 intelligence Raven familiar, who can hold full conversations, contemplate his existence, and have a deep understanding of engineering, is too dumb to wake someone up?


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mechaPoet wrote:

Pretty solid advice--clear communication is basically the #1 best strategy for just about any social interaction if you everyone on the same page.

I'm curious, though. You have some examples of undesirable behaviors from "rules lawyers" and "power gamers." But I've never been particularly clear on what people mean by "special snowflake." Mostly I just see it used to mean, "the things you like are less conventional than the things I like, and I don't like that."

The 9 intelligence Half-Drow Wizard, who fights with a Dire Flail, that he is not proficient with, and revels in his angst, going on long speeches about his tortured past, and accepts only healing spells from arcane sources, as he distrust the gods. He is just so flavorful.

That, is a special snowflake.


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By the way, this is the only thread in the Occult Adventures Playtest Forum to be above 1000 posts.

We are currently over 2000.

This is a highly anticipated class.

Let us hope it all works out in the end.


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Well, Destined puts Shield, and blur for free, and has an increasing Luck bonus to AC and saving throws, which can be pumped with Fate's Favored.

Combine with Oracle, who has Divine Favor, and Divine Power, which are also pumped by Fate's Favored.


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Claxon wrote:

Neither Monk nor sacred fist fit the flavor. They both focus on unarmed strikes which is not this characters thing.

The savage barbarian is probably the closest thing flavor wise. Wizard, sorcerer, and arcanist are straight out. I mean, did you catch the part about using weapons effectively?

BBT, how does oracle help?

Lame equal Rage cycling, scroll buffs, and you can choose to pick a mystery that allows for charisma to be used for AC and Reflex saves.

I mean, if you are going to be a naked warrior, then why not a handsome naked warrior?


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The 9 Intelligence Wizard.


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I am not attacking any specific person.

I am, however, attacking the culture and social norms, amongst many communities, that would create a situation, where this question needed to be asked.

I am attacking the idea, that this question need only be asked, with a female PC.

For me, this situation culminates our selective censorship, sexual inequality, body shaming, and the destruction of artistic freedom.

I personally draw all my own PCs, and this subject touches me personally.


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Malwing wrote:
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Actually, I don't see why something like the outfits of MMA fighters, wouldn't be extremely fitting.

Those are real world fighting women.

That really depends on the class. Weird for a Cavalier, not weird for a Barbarian, Brawler or Monk. At least as far as martials go.

A class does not define your character's dress, mannerisms, behavior, culture, or personal tastes.

A Paladin can wear nothing but a Hide Shirt, get constantly drunk, rarely bathe, and hit on everything.

Likewise, a Rogue could be a paragon of goodness, cleanliness, wear Fullplate, be deeply religious, and chaste.


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Umbral Reaver wrote:
Good grief. Did I start a war?

No.

You just brought to light, inequality amongst the sexes, and the cultural censorship of the human body.

I have full faith you came with good intentions.

People like me, just find the fact, that the idea that questions like this even need to be asked, to be offensive.

I personally lived in a Naturist commune, and met people of many faiths and beliefs, that had no shame in the viewing, and presenting, the human body.

How easily we push children to watch 126 minutes of a man slowly beaten, and tortured to death, but an exposed thigh, or sideboob, and we cry foul.

This is a game filled with violence, slavery, horror, rape, bestiality, torture, and we are concerned about a skimpy outfit?

This is a terrible state of things.


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Go ahead, look at this, and this picture.

Both are wearing the same outfit.

Still, I bet you view one as more "appropriate" than the other.


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Should I be calling anyone who disagrees with this FAQ nasty names, and accuse them of horrible acts?

:)

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