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I know I'm late to the party in discussing fey, but I wanted my voice to be heard as someone that supports the idea greatly. We definitely need more fey creatures. They have been severely under represented in minis. This may be impossible to do, but putting 4 tiny minis on one small base would be ideal! However, with that being not probable I would prefer the tiny mini to be on a small base for stability. However, I do like my tiny minis on tiny bases as well (just looks and feels right). Dealing with one or two tiny mini on a game surface is not a big deal, but if you were using multiple then it could become a pain with their stability issue. A slightly, and I stress, slightly oversized tiny mini would be fine. I do want much more fey and have been requesting this forever. Brownies and atomies would be awesome.


Favorite is the Crone Queen. Great minis! Goblin is nice, but I have many by now so it doesn't get me all that excited. Queen Elvanna looks OK, but I also feel something feels wrong about her.


Link is broke. I love all 3 and am fine with a sword wielding dragon type! I'm not familiar with Triaxus, but I am absolutely OK with the minis! Great job! I look forward to getting them.

Erik: Don't be overly concerned about minis such as Triaxius. I think your biggest concern should be when you present modern minis. That's much more of a contention for some than cool looking fantasy type creatures. These all look great!


I'm good with all three! Agreed that the one pic is quite blurry. The Triaxian's can easily pass for catfolk and we certainly can use some more of them. However, I may just have to try the race as is if they have some common representation in the set. I'd have to have minions for the leaders as these would represent as rares.


Count me in as a big fan of the animals. I like them. I'm not sure if I really needed the raven, but we shall see what it looks like on release. In the end I'm always good with animals to add a more realistic element to our fantasy world. Of course in the end they will attack! Animals are always good, but it would be best if they were ones which we haven't seen before in plastic. I'm very happy with these!


Each of these could be a rare easily as the paint jobs and sculpts look fantastic! I'm very curious to see what rares bumped these to uncommon. Although I feel most pc type minis should be rare I can understand your point Erik and look forward to the next preview. These do look fantastic!


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Erik,
With the catoblepas, what made you go with this artwork instead of the original look? Is this representative of the Pathfinder version. I'm so used to the long necked version from yesteryear.


I love the goat and owl and common is all the better. I can use multiple goats. What other way to make them scare my players with "over the hill you see a horde of goats charging towards you. They seem to be gaining momentum as they are now running down hill directly towards you"! I love the more mundane animals although I'm sure there are some that do not. However, that is the case with most minis!

Nazenha Vasilliovna looks quite fabulous as well! Great set of minis!


Hmmm, never even considered gargantuan coming in multiple pieces. I'd much rather prefer them coming in 1 piece. I've never had a problem with my gargantuan packaging and them coming intact? Why would I want it in multiple pieces if that's the case? I guess in the end it depends on what most have seen happen with their gargantuan minis, but I've never heard any problems from the folks I know?


Black Pudding point, not everybody make minis so it's a need in my book as are all slimes! Gotta remember that the majority of us just BUY them.


Oh, by the way both the Red dragon and White dragon links lead to the white dragon set. I wanted to check out the red dragon set, but the link led me to the white.


Both very nice, although I have a fondness for the Svathurim!


I love most of them. I only wish the Baphomet mini was huge. I'm happy that at least it's said to be a very large, large! I guess that's good, however, in the end I still can't justify this as my minotaur god. I LOVE minotaur's so my opinion really matters :)

Very excited by these minis!


Hodag is awesome! I'm a huge fan of animal type/monster encounters, especially large! All too often large figures give an automatic assumption of unbelievable strength. Now I'm not sure of the Hodag's strength, but it does come across as a type of reptile so regardless it will work for me as some sort of large lizard to have fun with. The Marid is gorgeous. The others are fine as well, but nothing I'm drooling over. Have way too many dragons!


"Could be male/female, or different castes. We don't know that much about grindylows yet, do we?"

Love that idea!


I do like them, but one issue: why is the color of the Grindylow Brinebrood Queen, so different than the other two? That is a problem for me as the other two look great together.


First, let me say that I like all three minis! However, I would love another much more simple pirate sculpt. The pirate sailor in this preview is quite nice, but feels to be much more than the typical pirate scum aboard most sailing vessels. We need that typical guy (not gal)!


Where in the description of supernatural abilities does it state that it doesn't require any hand movement or vocal sounds? Yes it does not incur an AoO, but it doesn't say in the description anything in regards to a supernatural ability not requiring the murmuring of some sound?

Just curious and not trying to start a major debate. I really want to get this right when ruling it on my game table. I did state to the witch player at my recent game that their cackle did require sound. The reason for this post was because admittedly I wasn't sure if my ruling was correct or not and neither were they!


When you say hexes "generally don't require components" would you agree that referencing the actual hex itself would be a fair way to make the final determination.

As Xaratherus pointed out Cackle would seem to make sense in utilizing a verbal component without question.

Thanks


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I think they are all quite nice and undead are always a must for any gamer. You can never have too many. Both the wight and zombie have a nautical feel to them which I like. Still are wights and zombies, but would do well for undead pirates or something. Very nice set.

I think a set revolving around fey creatures would be a nice addition. They are a somewhat underrepresented creature type.


Is there a general rule that states whether ALL hexes require this or don't (speech and hand motions). If there isn't such a standard rule, do you simply go by the description of the hex and use your best judgment in making the decision? I appreciate the help.


Rat Swarm is nothing great as they should be flat, plus I already have rat swarms. The other two are quite nice. Ambrose is very nice. Although she looks typical any, good DM can use this mini to fool their players into innocence and then.....! Love this mini. Now, I am not saying to make every mini a simple, typical one, but give this type some character and potential and I am satisfied!


The best of these is the Sea cat without question! That mini is awesome! The naga is OK, but I have many and in truth if wanted they could all play out to be aquatic as they look nothing really different than this one. The cyclops look nice, I just hope it's size is good for the base size.


I want to add my support in releasing the huges in this manner. The dragons look great, but hopefully we can get other types of creatures in these sets. Although I understand the interest in dragons they have never been one of the most used creature types for my pc's to face. I think in general games that I have been involved in don't have a need for huge numbers of dragon minis.


I think these are fantastic. The shark is a much needed mini and looks great. For sharks I have used the WotC Dreamblade Dreamreef marauder. This mini shows only the fin, but there was nothing else available. Until this! Great! Absolutely fantastic! Now, I have never even heard of weresharks before this preview, but now I like! I think these are fantastic minis and am very excited to get all. I have clamored for aquatic minis for years and years and finally my desire is being answered!!! Thanks! Please bring us more!


I am extremely excited about all of these minis! AWESOME! However, it seems that the Brinebrood Queen is a different color than the rest? Is it simply the pics or is this the case for a reason?


Bomb thrower is nice, but would have been better as some alchemical potion in his hands as oposed to an actual "bomb". Am a supporter, buying cases of all (multiple) but words of constructive advice are always good if delivered in a fair, honest way! I've always seen my alchemist with potions being tossed!


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The mix of pc's to monsters has been pretty good in this set! No complaints, although you can't argue that monsters do have a bit of a plus! Erik, you really have been doing a fantastic job in not only the minis but:

Your communication with the fans on here as well as other boards.

Your simple transparency as to why decisions have been made.

Your explanation as to why certain things have been chosen.

Your acceptance of criticism.

Your open, honest opinion on what needs to improve and what could have been done better.

Your push to perfection in the miniatures as a GAMER, not as a businessman.

Your simple excitement at getting and seeing the miniatures like all of us (except you get them sooner)!

Listening to what we have to say and doing that in future sets.

OK, enough compliments. You are going to get too big of a head!!

Thanks a million! You know you are the biigest name in the industry right now! Well you and Lisa!!


Wow, my first and only post on this thread and I won!!


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I DM, have a ton of books and in truth base most of my purchases on minis! However, and I say a BIG however, this is the type of book that I will pick up!

NPC's take a huge amount of time putting together and sometimes after prepping a huge, accurate stat block the battle may sometimes not even happen or is a lot quicker than I had hoped for. This will solve all of that, because now I can simply search through the book, find a well suited npc and have them ready to go! I love it.

I am also OK with it being classes from the core rule book only. There are SO many options to make variable type npc's from only the core classes and races! I think this book should only focus on the base classes! Give us a wide variety of these and then in the future come out with a book that focuses on the APG!

I don't need catfolk, ogres and various other monstrous type characters in this book! Those I can create on my own and are not the everyday npc's in my campaign world! However, a rogue which is the leader, task force or low level mission boy of a city guild is something which can pop up at any time and I may need a quick npc! The same goes for city guard types, wizards, clerics, etc. Core classes are awesome in their own right and a book of 500+ npc's of these with various levels still wouldn't be enough!

GREAT JOB and IDEA Paizo!!!


I've learned that Paizo has some really AWESOME sales where I can pick up tons of material (especially adventures) for a fraction of their retail price! Great job and thanks!


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I posted this review elswhere (like on Plasticrypt and Maxminis), but wanted to be sure I put it here so that the "real players" can maybe take a look and either answer some of my questions or at the least consider my suggestions moving forward.

Here is my very long review!!

OK, I received my regular booster case today, along with a huge case and the Rune Giant. After very careful initial consideration, as well as a second look through them all about 3 hours later I have my review.

First, the packaging is better than last time, however, don’t expect a small pile. There will still be a good amount of plastic boxes lying about when all said and done. I understand the rationale behind the hard plastic, but it is certainly a lot more garbage than the previous plastic baggies that WotC put their minis in. I guess the hard plastic would be understandable if the minis remained intact. However, that was not the case for me and there were quite a few minis which had slipped out of their slots in my normal booster case (not the huges as they were all intact).

I received 3 minis “broken.” They were the Scribbler, Forgefiend and Ameiko Kaijitsu. When I say “broken” they had detached from their base. I used super glue to put them back together and I am sure they will be fine. However, when receiving new minis I don’t expect to find them separated from the base upon arrival. This is something I think needs to be looked into with the next set. It seems the minis are not part of the base and simply attached to it after the mini has been cast. This most definitely is the problem as the old WotC minis were part of the base.

I DID receive a full set with my case which was a good thing. However, I was down to my last 2 boosters when I finally pulled the remaining 2 minis I needed (Yeti and Lamatar Bayden). I actually got a Yeti in each of my last 2 boosters which I was glad giving me a total of 2!

I ordered my cases from another company and let me tell you the actual delivery box I received was huge! I actually understand the $17.00 shipping charge after seeing the delivery!! I just wanted to add that in.

Strangely, I received two Vale Temros minis, but the base on one of them says Faceless Stalker. I am thinking the mini should have actually been a Faceless Stalker as it seems the Vale Temros mini was glued on to the base (there is a white outline around his feet). I have glued thousands of minis to bases and I have seen this all too familiar tell-tale sign indicating the mini has been glued down. None of the other minis received had this white outline around their feet.

Next, I don’t understand the reason that some of the minis are attached to the base using the minis feet, while others have small pads attached to their feet which are then attached to the base? It can’t simply be because the size of the feet because many minis have smaller feet and do not use the pads (take a look at a few examples such as Jakardros Sovark, Aldern Foxglove and the Shining Child – none have pads). However, then look at the Ghoul, Sinspawn Axeman and Warrior of Wrath. Is there really a difference in their feet size? I am not making a major complaint about this, although they do look much better without the additional pad, however, I would be curious to know from Paizo/Wizkids why some have it and some do not.

So now I will move on to my review of the actual minis themselves!

First the Rune Giant. The paint job and sculpt on this mini is absolutely fantastic! I know it cost quite a penny so it should be expected, but you will not be disappointed in the way it looks! There is literally no complaint I have with this mini other than maybe wanting it a tad taller. However, he is crouching so I should take that into consideration. When putting him alongside Orcus he matches up in size quite nicely. He falls slightly short in height to WotC Gargantuan Black Dragon and seems slightly smaller than the Blue. However, the Gargantuan Blue is quite “beefy” and the Black is standing on its hind feet. When put next to the white he fits in perfectly!! Overall an A!

HUGES. I will go over each of these in great detail as there are only 4.

I am rating all minis with an A, B, C or D scale. No pluses or minuses.

Treachery Demon: The Treachery Demon is the prize without any doubt! It is absolutely awesome. Those two smaller hands protruding from its chest are just plain creepy! That lime green tongue is a bit out of place, but it is a lumbering intimidating beast! A.

Karzoug Statue: After the above listed mini I would consider the Karzoug Statue to be a very close second. Yes, it doesn’t have the color scheme of the Treachery Demon, but for what it is, a statue, it certainly does its job. It is immense in size and weighs a ton. Throw away your bat under your bed and keep one of these under it for intruders! It should do the job just as nicely!! It is a great figure and is just about the size of the Rune Giant! Another A!

Lamia Harridan and Storm Giant: Both are nice minis. However, the Lamia suffers some of the problem the first set had and that is size issues! Her head could fit on many of the large minis and you would not know that it came from a huge. Simply compare her head to the storm giant and it is clear as day! She is a very nice mini and the detail is fantastic. However, I wish Paizo would work with Wizkids on the next set in getting the scale a bit better. WotC was ripped apart for issues like this so I think it is only fair to mention this to Paizo. You may say it is only 1 mini, but wait. I have more! Both B.

The Lamia! OMG! Look at the size of this mini! This is worse than the Chimera from Heroes and Monsters! Please Paizo, correct this moving forward as it really takes away from such a potentially cool mini as the Lamia! You can fit another 3 of her on the base before it gets crowded! I actually got 3!!! If she was larger she could have been awesome. I hate to say it, but I do wonder who let this one pass through review during production? I would have thought Paizo would have stopped this one in its tracks and asked Wizkids to modify it. D!!!

Sticking with the size issue I wonder if the Ogre is supposed to be the young of either the Ogre Brute or Jagraath Kreeg! The Ogre is about half their size? I am honestly curious as to how they made three ogres (which all look fantastic I must add) and one being so much smaller than the rest? Maybe it is supposed to be because of the RotR Adventure Path, but if not there is a serious problem with the ogre’s size! I must say that the ogre’s are one of my favorite minis in the set. They are each painted beautifully and have so much detail, expression and character! Truly outstanding, however, the size differential takes away from my overall love of the three! However, I will still give them an A taking into consideration that the Ogre is a child!

Again I must mention the size issue! The Young Red Dragon has the same issue! Just compare it to the WotC dragons and you will see what I mean. I like the mini, like the detail, like the sculpt, but its size is very uninspiring! Are we seeing a bit of a pattern yet? C.

Now, after saying all of that about size issues let me move on and hit some positives. There are many!

Yeti: Awesome mini. Got 2 and wanted many more (if you read above got it from my last 2 boosters). Some may not like the loin cloth considering Yeti are more “wild” but the mini itself is outstanding! I need many more. A.

All the Stone Giants: They are great. I didn’t look at my WotC ones to compare, but it appears they have a similar look with the lanky muscular build. I think they scored big with these minis. Some may hate the added scenery (rocks for 2 of the 3 minis), but I think it is great! You can see that Mokmurian is smaller than the others. However, I am going to hold it to the fact that he is a spell caster and took this class route because of his size (I am trying to be reasonable here as I really don’t know if his smaller size is becasue he is a spell caster or they just messed up again with size). However, oddly his head is not as squared as the others (being round). In the end, however, these three minis still get a thumbs up! A.

Dire Bear: Very nice mini. Dire? I don’t know, but it certainly fills in for a natural looking grizzly or something. Got three, which I didn’t really need, but at least it’s a nice minis. For a simple brown paint scheme it has some depth to it! Beefy and bulky it might be my favorite bear mini to date! A.

Forgefiend: Besides having no idea what this creature is I think it is well executed. The translucent orange belly makes the mini standout and without that it would simply be a C. One of mine was detached from its base, but after gluing it all is fine. I guess there was only so much they could do with the paint for this mini, but gladly they did it right with the stomach! B.

Lamia Matriarch: Can’t complain here. I think it is nice. It’s torso is much thinner than the snake-like WotC minis, but it still represents size with its lengthy coils on the large base. It gives a different impression than the Dark Naga and such with it appearing long and lanky! B.

Malfeshkekor: What the hell is this? Don’t know but I like. Not only is it intimidating in size it has this malevolent smile upon its face which just screams evil. Awesome mini. Got three and I am very happy about that. A.

Stone Golem: Now, to me this is not really a stone golem. I understand that they can be created with any look wanted, but it just appears undead! However, this is a good thing! This mini is quite creepy! You want to use it as a stone golem, go ahead. You want to use it as some undead, go ahead. It has quite a bit of versatility! Love it as all stone golems simply looked like….stone golems before this creepy dude! In the end, one of my favorites! A.

Wendigo: I will say that this freakish mini is awesome. Nice paint, nice sculpt and love the size! Having it perched on the translucent base is a plus as the creature from what I recall has no legs (or something to that effect). Got 3 and although that is too many to put against any reasonable party I am happy! A.

MEDIUMS and SMALLS

Yeth Hound and Goblin Dog: Both minis are great. We all needed a Yeth Hound and the Goblin Dog can serve any purpose you want from a feral wild dog to well...a goblin dog. Great minis! The two of these look great together as well in regards to size. However, both strangely are on a circular base glued to the actual base which is almost equal in size. I would love to know the reason for this as well? A. (I do, however, want to give both a minus because of the extra “base”). Paizo, please explain!

Sinspawn and Sinspawn Axeman: Think both are superb. I know not what they are, but I can certainly find a place for them in my world. The axeman is the better of the two, but they both look so similar that a group of each rampaging towards any party would look great! Very good minis! A.

Bugbear Hero and Ogrekin: Absolutely two of the best minis in the set. The detail on the bugbear is fantastic as well as the paint scheme. Both are truly superb and some of my favorite minis! That malformed face on the Ogrekin is great! A.

Alu-Demon: Pretty good. I guess I can’t complain and most will say nice. However, I have had enough of these minis and am getting a bit bored even with this one having the sweet webbing covering her arse! B.

Goblin Commando on Goblin Dog: You really can’t ask for any more in a mini! I got three and want more. Both the goblin and dog are well done. Each can, if seperated in a battle, be substituted for other minis in this set! Really good mini! A.

Faceless Stalker: For a simple mini I like it. It has pads on its feet which is a negative, but it still gets my OK. Don’t expect too much from this mini as it can only offer so much with the paint and sculpt! However, for what it can offer it is quite nice! B.

Wrath: Eh! I get them trying to add a little something with the hair and all, but in the end there is something lacking with this mini. Doesn’t give a wrath-like feeling! Paint is bland and just doesn’t feel all that “undead” and scary! Funny thing is even though I don’t love the mini I can see myself using it often! C.

Lamia Kuchrima: Certainly one of the aces of the set! The minis sculpt is awesome. Paint scheme is pretty good, but it simply comes down to its use. Add this to the WotC vrocks and you have one hell of a party! A.

Warchief Ripnugget: This is one hell of a mini! I am not a fan of mounted minis, but this goblin and lizard take the cake! Really solid mini overall. I would have liked a bit more shading on the lizard which holds it back a bit. B.

Harpy: When I saw the previews I thought I would hate this mini. However, now in hand I have changed my mind. The detail on the face of the mini is quite outstanding! The shaded wings look quite good and the size makes up for a missing spot with all the WotC harpies. Very nice surprise, but I only got 1! A.

Ghoul: Maybe it’s me, but I just don’t like my ghoul’s blue! Why this color I don’t know, but I must say it doesn’t look good. The skull in hand looks a bit silly and at the end of the day although I love undead the minis is not really great! C.

Shining Child: So I know that there was a great deal of effort that went into this mini and I am thankful that they created it. But, to be fair it is only so, so. I think it is good for what it is and in truth am happy I got 3 (would have liked more). It is clear plastic which is hard to really see due to the minis small size. I would have liked a better wash on the hair maybe to blend in better with the minis clear plastic, purple body. I still rate it fairly high. B.

Redcap: Simply love this little guy! Maybe I have a routing effort for the “little” guy, but in the end this mini needed to be made for the longest time. Love the oversized axe it carries and for such a small mini the detail is great! You can’t really make out all the detail on this guy due to his size, but because of the red cap and the large axe your focus is drawn to these areas thus making the detail obscured. I want more!!! A.

Goblin Commando and Goblin Warchanter: Of the two which is better? Well, maybe the Warchanter because of his open mouth displaying his teeth. However, once again Paizo has hit it out of the park with their goblins. A definite must have as they are both great! I have not used goblins in my game for years, but when I do I am certainly pulling out these! Great! A.

Kobold Champion: This guy is superb. Simply look at the paint detail. The shading is phenomenal and the sculpt is truly great. He would fit in nicely with all other kobold minis which is a bonus as well. A.

Let me move on the PEOPLE TYPE SCULPTS.

The Best? Well there are many. I think at times Paizo does better with their minis representing “people” than the monsters. I think part of the reason is that “people” are all the basic same size!!

Anyways, here are all the pc type minis rated best to the worst (many are superb):

1) Seoni, Human Sorcerer: And it’s not because of her garb! It is simply an amazing minis). A.

2) Azaven: Can be used for a human or some sort of undead. Detail is incredible! A.

3) The Mithral Mage: The staff in his hands with the clear tip gem looks great. The mini overall is one of the best! A.

4) Runelord Karzoug: Love the color, love the detail and love the green flame. Some may not like this mini because of this, but I can’t help but think that it is one which should be a major npc! Face looks great! A.

5) Lamatar Bayden: Maybe undead and belongs with the creatures above, but this guy I love no matter where he belongs! A.

6) Khalib: Got three of this guy, but his paint and detail are really on the mark. A.

7) Vale Temros: Love that Paizo has added many npc’s of color. The figure is cool and the detail is excellent! A.

8) The Scribbler: Falling in at #8 he still is at the A level. Strangely I can’t really put my finger on what I like about him. A.

9) Denizen of Leng: Maybe should have been under creatures, but looks humanoid enough to me. Great mini with all detail. Love it, but only got 2! I need and want many more! A.

10) Ameiko Kajitsu: Very good looking mini with the tattoos on her arm for detail. Love the shading on the hair (gray stripe). A.

11) Aldern Foxglove: Very regal looking mini. Nice addition. A.

12) Lucrecia: Great barkeep mini for any game. Very nice detail as well. A.

13) Shalelu Andosana: Very nice mini but I am still trying to figure out what that two-pronged white thing is sticking out of her hair? Someone please tell me? B. (found out from Cylyria on Plasticrypt that they are feathers).

14) Tsuto Kaijitsu: Asian I guess. I do think it looks good. B.

15) Lyrie Akenja: Like this mini a lot, but the cat takes away from it overall. Would have been an A if not for the white cat at her feet. B.

16) Highlady Athroxis: Great mini, but I rated it so low because of a couple of things. First, the weapon takes up too much space around her interfering with potential other minis on a game board. Second, I don’t love the pose. Nice mini for many I am guessing, but I am not in love with it. B.

17) Orik Vancaskerkin: The shield makes the mini overall quite nice. In truth could have ranked him much higher. Very good, but he might be suffering from my “late night syndrome as I have been writing this for god knows how long”. B.

18) Viorian Dekanti: One of the last of the B minis. This is another that could have been rated higher. It is truly fantastic. B.

19) Vraxeris: Although great detail the paint scheme just seems a bit “off.” Can’t really explain it, but see for yourself. B.

20) Jakardros: Really good mini. Nothing outstanding like many of the other minis outlined before, but you have to love a simple mini with an eye patch and a bow like this. B.

Going to try and speed these through with simple ratings!

21) Kaven Windstrike: Detail really good. Like it a lot! B.

22) Harsk, Dwarf Ranger: Pretty nice dwarf overall. B.

23) Skinsaw Cultist: You need many of these minis to sort out your cult. Freakishly good for a common! B.

24) Warrior of Wrath: Another exceptionally good common. Love it for that. B.

25) Nualia: Nothing too good here. The connection between the torso and pants looks off. Just nothing here that would sell you as being a great mini! C.

26) The Skinsaw Man: Not only is he seriously leaning (which I can fix) the tongue looks silly especially in purple. Do skinsaw men have purple tongues? If they do then maybe I should raise the rating. However, in its current state I am not a fan! C.

Well there it is. Hope you enjoyed and got something out of this!


Here is a very long review!!
OK, I received my regular booster case today, along with a huge case and the Rune Giant. After very careful initial consideration, as well as a second look through them all about 3 hours later I have my review.

First, the packaging is better than last time, however, don’t expect a small pile. There will still be a good amount of plastic boxes lying about when all said and done. I understand the rationale behind the hard plastic, but it is certainly a lot more garbage than the previous plastic baggies that WotC put their minis in. I guess the hard plastic would be understandable if the minis remained intact. However, that was not the case for me and there were quite a few minis which had slipped out of their slots in my normal booster case (not the huges as they were all intact).

I received 3 minis “broken.” They were the Scribbler, Forgefiend and Ameiko Kaijitsu. When I say “broken” they had detached from their base. I used super glue to put them back together and I am sure they will be fine. However, when receiving new minis I don’t expect to find them separated from the base upon arrival. This is something I think needs to be looked into with the next set. It seems the minis are not part of the base and simply attached to it after the mini has been cast. This most definitely is the problem as the old WotC minis were part of the base.

I DID receive a full set with my case which was a good thing. However, I was down to my last 2 boosters when I finally pulled the remaining 2 minis I needed (Yeti and Lamatar Bayden). I actually got a Yeti in each of my last 2 boosters which I was glad giving me a total of 2!

I ordered my cases from Popular Collections and let me tell you the actual delivery box I received was huge! I actually understand the $17.00 shipping charge after seeing the delivery!! I just wanted to add that in. They did a great job with price and delivery!!

Strangely, I received two Vale Temros minis, but the base on one of them says Faceless Stalker. I am thinking the mini should have actually been a Faceless Stalker as it seems the Vale Temros mini was glued on to the base (there is a white outline around his feet). I have glued thousands of minis to bases and I have seen this all too familiar tell-tale sign indicating the mini has been glued down. None of the other minis received had this white outline around their feet.

Next, I don’t understand the reason that some of the minis are attached to the base using the minis feet, while others have small pads attached to their feet which are then attached to the base? It can’t simply be because the size of the feet because many minis have smaller feet and do not use the pads (take a look at a few examples such as Jakardros Sovark, Aldern Foxglove and the Shining Child – none have pads). However, then look at the Ghoul, Sinspawn Axeman and Warrior of Wrath. Is there really a difference in their feet size? I am not making a major complaint about this, although they do look much better without the additional pad, however, I would be curious to know from Paizo/Wizkids why some have it and some do not.

So now I will move on to my review of the actual minis themselves!

First the Rune Giant. The paint job and sculpt on this mini is absolutely fantastic! I know it cost quite a penny so it should be expected, but you will not be disappointed in the way it looks! There is literally no complaint I have with this mini other than maybe wanting it a tad taller. However, he is crouching so I should take that into consideration. When putting him alongside Orcus he matches up in size quite nicely. He falls slightly short in height to WotC Gargantuan Black Dragon and seems slightly smaller than the Blue. However, the Gargantuan Blue is quite “beefy” and the Black is standing on its hind feet. When put next to the white he fits in perfectly!! Overall an A!

HUGES. I will go over each of these in great detail as there are only 4.

I am rating all minis with an A, B, C or D scale. No pluses or minuses.

Treachery Demon: The Treachery Demon is the prize without any doubt! It is absolutely awesome. Those two smaller hands protruding from its chest is just plain creepy! That lime green tongue is a bit out of place, but it is a lumbering intimidating beast! A.

Karzoug Statue: After the above listed mini I would consider the Karzoug Statue to be a very close second. Yes, it doesn’t have the color scheme of the Treachery Demon, but for what it is, a statue, it certainly does its job. It is immense in size and weighs a ton. Throw away your bat under your bed and keep one of these under it for intruders! It should do the job just as nicely!! It is a great figure and is just about the size of the Rune Giant! Another A!

Lamia Harridan and Storm Giant: Both are nice minis. However, the Lamia suffers some of the problem the first set had and that is size issues! Her head could fit on many of the large minis and you would not know that it came from a huge. Simply compare her head to the storm giant and it is clear as day! She is a very nice mini and the detail is fantastic. However, I wish Paizo would work with Wizkids on the next set in getting the scale a bit better. WotC was ripped apart for issues like this so I think it is only fair to mention this to Paizo. You may say it is only 1 mini, but wait. I have more! Both B.

The Lamia! OMG! Look at the size of this mini! This is worse than the Chimera from Heroes and Monsters! Please Paizo, correct this moving forward as it really takes away from such a potentially cool mini as the Lamia! You can fit another 3 of her on the base before it gets crowded! I actually got 3!!! If she was larger she could have been awesome. I hate to say it, but I do wonder who let this one pass through review during production? I would have thought Paizo would have stopped this one in its tracks and asked Wizkids to modify it. D!!!

Sticking with the size issue I wonder if the Ogre is supposed to be the young of either the Ogre Brute or Jagraath Kreeg! The Ogre is about half their size? I am honestly curious as to how they made three ogres (which all look fantastic I must add) and one being so much smaller than the rest? Maybe it is supposed to be because of the RotR Adventure Path, but if not there is a serious problem with the ogre’s size! I must say that the ogre’s are one of my favorite minis in the set. They are each painted beautifully and have so much detail, expression and character! Truly outstanding, however, the size differential takes away from my overall love of the three! However, I will still give them an A taking into consideration that the Ogre is a child!

Again I must mention the size issue! The Young Red Dragon has the same issue! Just compare it to the WotC dragons and you will see what I mean. I like the mini, like the detail, like the sculpt, but its size is very uninspiring! Are we seeing a bit of a pattern yet? C.

Now, after saying all of that about size issues let me move on and hit some positives. There are many!

Yeti: Awesome mini. Got 2 and wanted many more (if you read above got it from my last 2 boosters). Some may not like the loin cloth considering Yeti are more “wild” but the mini itself is outstanding! I need many more. A.

All the Stone Giants: They are great. I didn’t look at my WotC ones to compare, but it appears they have a similar look with the lanky muscular build. I think they scored big with these minis. Some may hate the added scenery (rocks for 2 of the 3 minis), but I think it is great! You can see that Mokmurian is smaller than the others. However, I am going to hold it to the fact that he is a spell caster and took this class route because of his size (I am trying to be reasonable here as I really don’t know if his smaller size is becasue he is a spell caster or they just messed up again with size). However, oddly his head is not as squared as the others (being round). In the end, however, these three minis still get a thumbs up! A.

Dire Bear: Very nice mini. Dire? I don’t know, but it certainly fills in for a natural looking grizzly or something. Got three, which I didn’t really need, but at least it’s a nice minis. For a simple brown paint scheme it has some depth to it! Beefy and bulky it might be my favorite bear mini to date! A.

Forgefiend: Besides having no idea what this creature is I think it is well executed. The translucent orange belly makes the mini standout and without that it would simply be a C. One of mine was detached from its base, but after gluing it all is fine. I guess there was only so much they could do with the paint for this mini, but gladly they did it right with the stomach! B.

Lamia Matriarch: Can’t complain here. I think it is nice. It’s torso is much thinner than the snake-like WotC minis, but it still represents size with its lengthy coils on the large base. It gives a different impression than the Dark Naga and such with it appearing long and lanky! B.

Malfeshkekor: What the hell is this? Don’t know but I like. Not only is it intimidating in size it has this malevolent smile upon its face which just screams evil. Awesome mini. Got three and I am very happy about that. A.

Stone Golem: Now, to me this is not really a stone golem. I understand that they can be created with any look wanted, but it just appears undead! However, this is a good thing! This mini is quite creepy! You want to use it as a stone golem, go ahead. You want to use it as some undead, go ahead. It has quite a bit of versatility! Love it as all stone golems simply looked like….stone golems before this creepy dude! In the end, one of my favorites! A.

Wendigo: I will say that this freakish mini is awesome. Nice paint, nice sculpt and love the size! Having it perched on the translucent base is a plus as the creature from what I recall has no legs (or something to that effect). Got 3 and although that is too many to put against any reasonable party I am happy! A.

MEDIUMS and SMALLS

Yeth Hound and Goblin Dog: Both minis are great. We all needed a Yeth Hound and the Goblin Dog can serve any purpose you want from a feral wild dog to well...a goblin dog. Great minis! The two of these look great together as well in regards to size. However, both strangely are on a circular base glued to the actual base which is almost equal in size. I would love to know the reason for this as well? A. (I do, however, want to give both a minus because of the extra “base”). Paizo, please explain!

Sinspawn and Sinspawn Axeman: Think both are superb. I know not what they are, but I can certainly find a place for them in my world. The axeman is the better of the two, but they both look so similar that a group of each rampaging towards any party would look great! Very good minis! A.

Bugbear Hero and Ogrekin: Absolutely two of the best minis in the set. The detail on the bugbear is fantastic as well as the paint scheme. Both are truly superb and some of my favorite minis! That malformed face on the Ogrekin is great! A.

Alu-Demon: Pretty good. I guess I can’t complain and most will say nice. However, I have had enough of these minis and am getting a bit bored even with this one having the sweet webbing covering her arse! B.

Goblin Commando on Goblin Dog: You really can’t ask for any more in a mini! I got three and want more. Both the goblin and dog are well done. Each can, if seperated in a battle, be substituted for other minis in this set! Really good mini! A.

Faceless Stalker: For a simple mini I like it. It has pads on its feet which is a negative, but it still gets my OK. Don’t expect too much from this mini as it can only offer so much with the paint and sculpt! However, for what it can offer it is quite nice! B.

Wrath: Eh! I get them trying to add a little something with the hair and all, but in the end there is something lacking with this mini. Doesn’t give a wrath-like feeling! Paint is bland and just doesn’t feel all that “undead” and scary! Funny thing is even though I don’t love the mini I can see myself using it often! C.

Lamia Kuchrima: Certainly one of the aces of the set! The minis sculpt is awesome. Paint scheme is pretty good, but it simply comes down to its use. Add this to the WotC vrocks and you have one hell of a party! A.

Warchief Ripnugget: This is one hell of a mini! I am not a fan of mounted minis, but this goblin and lizard take the cake! Really solid mini overall. I would have liked a bit more shading on the lizard which holds it back a bit. B.

Harpy: When I saw the previews I thought I would hate this mini. However, now in hand I have changed my mind. The detail on the face of the mini is quite outstanding! The shaded wings look quite good and the size makes up for a missing spot with all the WotC harpies. Very nice surprise, but I only got 1! A.

Ghoul: Maybe it’s me, but I just don’t like my ghoul’s blue! Why this color I don’t know, but I must say it doesn’t look good. The skull in hand looks a bit silly and at the end of the day although I love undead the minis is not really great! C.

Shining Child: So I know that there was a great deal of effort that went into this mini and I am thankful that they created it. But, to be fair it is only so, so. I think it is good for what it is and in truth am happy I got 3 (would have liked more). It is clear plastic which is hard to really see due to the minis small size. I would have liked a better wash on the hair maybe to blend in better with the minis clear plastic, purple body. I still rate it fairly high. B.

Redcap: Simply love this little guy! Maybe I have a routing effort for the “little” guy, but in the end this mini needed to be made for the longest time. Love the oversized axe it carries and for such a small mini the detail is great! You can’t really make out all the detail on this guy due to his size, but because of the red cap and the large axe your focus is drawn to these areas thus making the detail obscured. I want more!!! A.

Goblin Commando and Goblin Warchanter: Of the two which is better? Well, maybe the Warchanter because of his open mouth displaying his teeth. However, once again Paizo has hit it out of the park with their goblins. A definite must have as they are both great! I have not used goblins in my game for years, but when I do I am certainly pulling out these! Great! A.

Kobold Champion: This guy is superb. Simply look at the paint detail. The shading is phenomenal and the sculpt is truly great. He would fit in nicely with all other kobold minis which is a bonus as well. A.

Let me move on the PEOPLE TYPE SCULPTS.

The Best? Well there are many. I think at times Paizo does better with their minis representing “people” than the monsters. I think part of the reason is that “people” are all the basic same size!!

Anyways, here are all the pc type minis rated best to the worst (many are superb):

1) Seoni, Human Sorcerer: And it’s not because of her garb! It is simply an amazing minis). A.

2) Azaven: Can be used for a human or some sort of undead. Detail is incredible! A.

3) The Mithral Mage: The staff in his hands with the clear tip gem looks great. The mini overall is one of the best! A.

4) Runelord Karzoug: Love the color, love the detail and love the green flame. Some may not like this mini because of this, but I can’t help but think that it is one which should be a major npc! Face looks great! A.

5) Lamatar Bayden: Maybe undead and belongs with the creatures above, but this guy I love no matter where he belongs! A.

6) Khalib: Got three of this guy, but his paint and detail are really on the mark. A.

7) Vale Temros: Love that Paizo has added many npc’s of color. The figure is cool and the detail is excellent! A.

8) The Scribbler: Falling in at #8 he still is at the A level. Strangely I can’t really put my finger on what I like about him. A.

9) Denizen of Leng: Maybe should have been under creatures, but looks humanoid enough to me. Great mini with all detail. Love it, but only got 2! I need and want many more! A.

10) Ameiko Kajitsu: Very good looking mini with the tattoos on her arm for detail. Love the shading on the hair (gray stripe). A.

11) Aldern Foxglove: Very regal looking mini. Nice addition. A.

12) Lucrecia: Great barkeep mini for any game. Very nice detail as well. A.

13) Shalelu Andosana: Very nice mini but I am still trying to figure out what that two-pronged white thing is sticking out of her hair? Someone please tell me? B.

14) Tsuto Kaijitsu: Asian I guess. I do think it looks good. B.

15) Lyrie Akenja: Like this mini a lot, but the cat takes away from it overall. Would have been an A if not for the white cat at her feet. B.

16) Highlady Athroxis: Great mini, but I rated it so low because of a couple of things. First, the weapon takes up too much space around her interfering with potential other minis on a game board. Second, I don’t love the pose. Nice mini for many I am guessing, but I am not in love with it. B.

17) Orik Vancaskerkin: The shield makes the mini overall quite nice. In truth could have ranked him much higher. Very good, but he might be suffering from my “late night syndrome as I have been writing this for god knows how long”. B.

18) Viorian Dekanti: One of the last of the B minis. This is another that could have been rated higher. It is truly fantastic. B.

19) Vraxeris: Although great detail the paint scheme just seems a bit “off.” Can’t really explain it, but see for yourself. B.

20) Jakardros: Really good mini. Nothing outstanding like many of the other minis outlined before, but you have to love a simple mini with an eye patch and a bow like this. B.

Going to try and speed these through with simple ratings!

21) Kaven Windstrike: Detail really good. Like it a lot! B.

22) Harsk, Dwarf Ranger: Pretty nice dwarf overall. B.

23) Skinsaw Cultist: You need many of these minis to sort out your cult. Freakishly good for a common! B.

24) Warrior of Wrath: Another exceptionally good common. Love it for that. B.

25) Nualia: Nothing too good here. The connection between the torso and pants looks off. Just nothing here that would sell you as being a great mini! C.
26) The Skinsaw Man: Not only is he seriously leaning (which I can fix) the tongue looks silly especially in purple. Do skinsaw men have purple tongues? If they do then maybe I should raise the rating. However, in its current state I am not a fan! C.

Well there it is. Hope you enjoyed and got soemthing out of this!


Dhampir984 wrote:
For me, this preview is all about that kobold! That thing is crazy detailed.

Strangely, for me the preview is all about the redcap! I love the kobold, but I do have a bunch which in a crunch I could use. However, besides my 1 Dreamblade Redcap which goes for $25+ I could have never run a gang of these little buggers at my pc's!

Very nice.


Hey Narl:
I can understand all of your points and in truth cannot argue them as they are your perspective and feelings. All of them make sense as a new collector.

However, as someone on the flip-side who has been collecting from Harbinger these minis make a nice change to the common. I actually cringe a bit when I see another ogre or orc as I have hundreds of them. When I see something like the faceless stalker, skinsaw cultist and the Karzoug Statue I am very satisfied.

Keep in mind that I am not playing Rise of the Runelords and probably never will as all my gaming adventures are homebrew including my world. However, variety is the spice of life and I am very, very and let me add another very, happy to see the different minis.

There are many companies out there that sell the more common creatures (skeletons, zombies, orcs, etc). If you want take a look around and I am sure you can get everything you want.

Good luck and enjoy! I am sure Paizo will give you what you want!


We need a TARRASQUE!!! All others are extra! Come on Paizo do what many, many players want and need!

Oh, by the way I love your line. Don't want you to get the wrong impression


please!


Excellent! Many choices but I have made the decision and it goes with the idol-on. If Jason Bulmahn says it this way it is good enough for me! Thanks all for the fun, but it is drow as in cow!! Nothing else. I am part drow, trust me I know!


Considering our group is having a summoner join our cast of characters I wanted to sort of get a universal acceptable pronunciation for the Eidolons. What do you say the correct pronunciation is?

There can be quite an amount of varying opinions for many common terms in the game. I was shocked when I found out the varying pronunciations of the word drow. It sounds like cow, the end! However, some tend to disagree. Lets not get started with the correct pronunciation of the word melee!!

So how do you pronounce EIDOLON?


I am trying to match them up more for my own campaign world and some flavor in bringing the changes of gods to my home brewed world. I am going to continue to play in my world, but was thinking of some way to have the current gods challenged by some foreign god influence from an alternate material plane. These new gods would be the pathfinder ones. When changing the 3.5 system to Pathfinder (expecially with the gods) I don't simply stop the worship of the old gods and start up with the new ones. I like for this to occur through some change in the world. It can be a very slow transformation where the commonfolk start to lose faith in the old gods and then these new gods start to recognize this weakness and try and gain the following of the commonfolk to eventually attempt to overthrow the current gods from their lofty positions within the world.

Could be a god war something like 4th edition or much different, but in the end the new gods eventually gaining the power.

I would love thoughts and ideas on how this could be done in some dramatic fashion!!!


I was having the most trouble with Pelor/Ehlonna and Sarenrae. I finally figured I would go with Ehlonna/Sarenrae and Pelor/Erastil just because it made both matches somewhat close, although I did feel Pelor matched better with Sarenrae better. I just then couldn't find a match for Ehlonna. In my current game we don't have any other gods besides the core 3.5 ones. Appreciate your thoughts!!


I am looking at converting from 3.5 to pathfinder and was wondering which gods from the new Pathfinder RPG would match up best to fit the role of their 3.5 counterpart. I do not have halflings in my world so that is why Yondalla is left out. However, upon a close inspection this is what I came up with. I would appreciate any suggestions, changes or outright criticism as I want this to be as closely matched as possible.

Abadar: None equal!

Nethys/ Boccob

Corellon Larethian/Cayden Cailean

Ehlonna/Sarenrae

Pelor/Erastil

Erythnul/Rovagug

Fharlanghn/Desna

Garl Glittergold/Shelyn

Gruumsh/Lamashtu

Heironeous/Iomedae

Hextor/Asmodeus

Kord/Gorum

Moradin/Torag

Nerull/Urgathoa

Obad-Hai/Gozreh

Olidammara/Calistria

St Cuthbert/Irori

Vecna/Norgorber

Wee Jas/Pharasma

Appreciate any assistance!!


Use Critical Hits and Fumble charts in all my games, however, I like the variety that you have in yours. I may have to use a couple of ideas to add to mine. I especially like the massive damage rule which I do not incorporate.

Nice work!


I am all for Option 1: The current system.

One of my players has a barbarian which has gone up to level 7 and we think the additional math is absolutely no problem. It adds an element of planning and gives so many more choices. Please do not go back to the original bland flavor of the original rage. This way is great if a few of the powers are simply balanced out and maybe adding some more.


Thanks Vic. You have put my mind to ease and I am sure many other players!!

Love the game!


I hear what you are saying, but in fairness I have had many bards in my games. Although all who have taken on this class enjoy the role playing aspect tremedoulsy they all would like to eventually get that ability which can match other classes in power. I actually am happy to see them get an ability such as this and would hope that it continues in the final version of the game.


I thought I should post this here since in my gaming with both the alpha and beta the one thing which can be cumbersome is not having an index to quickly look up rules and such during a game. If this could be added to the final release that would be great. I am curious if I am the only one who feels this is needed?

Love the Pathfinder rule set and will be playing it for some time. Have 5 players and 3 have bought books so far. Trying to convince the other to get it buut they are waiting for the final release in 2009.


So far so good. Love it. Bought the beta and although this isn't a playtest report an index would be exceptionally useful in the final book.


I am playing a rogue npc and he is pretty well balanced. Currently 3rd level and the rogue talents are very nice. I see no problem with the rogues as outlined right now.


I agree. The old Power Atack feat was more to my liking.

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