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I just voted for an item requiring "for" saves...wtf


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and sadly it keeps winning


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Same item 3 times in under 30 pairings...


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Mudfoot wrote:
The decanter produces 5 gallons per second, or 22 litres. . .

Certainly not world ending but an interesting thought came to mind, waterwheel automobiles, how fast could one reasonably travel? (the roads would all have to run off into irrigation channels)


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I'm experimenting with the shadowdancer and various builds, this is just one that I was looking for rule clarification on. As a player I don't really see much difference between losing your abilities when you lose your weapon and losing your abilities when you lose your spellbook or component pouch, effectively i see that as something to RP not something that would diminish the game in any way.


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More or less as the title says. Does the 4th level ability of the Duelist, Combat Reflexes, count as the feat for the Shadowdancer's prerequisites?


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muleback cords will counter your encumbrance problem, and they're really cheap


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yeah but the increased DR rage power isn't asking you to allocate all of your rage powers just to achieve it, I read it as adding DR, though I too am curious for a real answer.


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I'm not super impressed with the mythic ruleset, and while the dual initiative is tempting, i don't want to introduce mythic rules when i have no intention of implementing them for the players


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a floating island within the lair, stone to flesh arcane traps, i'm sure i'll think of more


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delay of game, the gunslinger (who is both the most experienced player and the party's biggest damage dealer) was busy larping some zombies.

so now I have more time to fine tune the encounter.

sadly OmniBlock the story is mostly set in so much as terrain is concerned, but I could probably add an underground lake for the hydra to retreat to in order to heal up, cause that's a fantastic idea and the party has no druid to wildshape and give chase.

what other ideas do you guys have? remember i'm looking for deadly but winnable.


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luckily all the dark folk use poison so fort saves will be present in mass.

I did consider the pyrohydra, but the party just finished a fight with some flame drakes and I don't want to hit them with the same trick twice in a row, the warden hydra meshes well with the dark folk and has a lot of unique abilities the party won't expect


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They'll deal with the dancer at a later time, I'm gonna make him a recurring villain that levels as the party does, but this will be a hell of an intro for the dark folk

The game is Friday so I'll be sure to update you after then.


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Nice, I think I'll leave out the dark dancer though, I'm gonna take him and add some bard levels then make him the leader the party thinks they understand.

I'll still be tied on action economy with the 6 other dark folk and the hydra, and with the caller's deeper darkness the dark folks see in darkness and the warden hydra has blindsense and blind-fight we should still have an interesting fight.

Thinking a stinking cloud or create pit within the deeper darkness will be potent as well.


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This particular hydra, has been captured in the wild and raised/beaten into a very big and mean guard dog for an underground compound in the center of a city, so story wise the boggards don't fit, however i like the idea of some minions, maybe the hydra's handlers, though not sure what they should be, it's much more the guardian of a secret thieves guild type organization.

Edit: Just found the dark caller/stalker/slayers what's your take on putting one each of the caller and stalker and then 3 slayers?


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Hey all

So, I'm trying to put together a fairly epic hydra fight in a campaign I'm running, but I'm having difficulty deciding how to build it. The party is a large group (6-7 players) of wildly differing skill all running 25 point buy 5th level characters ranging many different races. There is an optimized pistollero gunslinger, an strength heavy fighter, a slightly insane blackblade/kensai magus/monk(too many voices in his head), a frail but effective wizard, a life oracle, a ronin samurai, and a rouge. The story isn't key but the fight set up is there is a large explosion leading to a sizable cave-in out of which will crawl this hydra. I want the fight to be tough and should definitely knock out one to two characters but I'm not looking for a wipe.

I'm leaning towards an 8 headed warden hydra which equates to a CR 9 encounter. The warden is a template that I'm sure none of the players have seen before and would be thematically appropriate, but I'm not sure if I'm stacking the deck too much.

Looking for thoughts and opinions. I want the party to be legitimately scared for their characters but make it a still winnable fight.


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I never got crazy with them to start with, just did the PFO and Reaper one, both of which i feel were extremely worth it.


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I don't suppose anybody FAQ'd that did they...I prefer not to rely on a house-rule when the general interpretation can swing so wildly, as your two threads show. However I'm glad I could continue your theme of re-asking this question in a new thread just about every year.


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I'm thinking that instead of wizard I would go sorcerer but take the Arcane bloodline, I love some of the powers it grants, than make my bonded item a ring with a gem fitting the description for magic jar set in it and then also crafting it up into a ring of charisma, then I need only pick up one item from my body instead of virtually everything, I'll see if maybe I can't talk my gm into letting me take Natural Spell...might need to go amulet instead so that all animals would be able to wear it


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do you modify her DC's accordingly? I'm guessing she has some sort of charisma boosting gear on her actual person. That's a good call on the tongues spell, I wouldn't have thought of that, at least not until it was too late. What about spell casting if she's jumps into an animal or some other magical beast that can't speak or make the appropriate somatic gestures?


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Wow, now that I started thinking about that, that would also mean that my wizards ring of vast intelligence shouldn't count towards the DC's of any spells cast while possessing the subject of my Magic Jar. That spell has a lot more drawbacks than I had previously considered


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Well that certainly puts a kink in the whole use of Magic Jar for disposable casters


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Can a wizard who chooses the bonded object for his arcane bond still cast spells normally while possessing another creature with magic jar? Since, "If a wizard attempts to cast a spell without his bonded object worn or in hand, he must make a concentration check or lose the spell."


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The level 10 druid opted not to, and air bubble only lasts min/lvl so while it would work to ease the gunslinger's plight during combat it's not a longterm solution. It's a sandbox game so as long as the party wants to stay near the coast they will, also assuming they succeed in the overall endeavor of artifact recovery the cleric who they will report back to should be able to remove the disease. If they fail I expect them all to become pirates and thus the whole campaign will move into the water.


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For the record I settled with afflicting two of the players with lycanthropy, weresharks to be specific, hope they stay near the coast.


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The geas-quest prevents the rogue from handing over the artifacts to anyone but the head cleric from the city, though if the rogue dies then the party is free to do as they like and got a free resurrection and the wrath of a very popular church


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Background: So I've recently started a one shot that has turned into a weekly game, because of this I've kinda been playing fast and loose and have missed a few things they they did that they shouldn't have but also missed some stuff my mobs could have done but didn't, I also opted not to TPK them last week, but it would've been really easy. Anyway started the party at 9th, they've all achieved 10th now. Started at 4 players and am now at 6. I'm very generous with my players, I give them full hitpoints every level and we're playing out of a large town so generally speaking if they need spellcasting services or new magic gear/items they have access to it and the money to purchase it. Now last week I killed their Orc Fighter (as opposed to the TPK) and in order to pay for his resurrection the Rogue agreed to recover some artifacts from a sunken temple of Gozreh, the Cleric hit him with a Geas-Quest to keep him honest. The rest of the party agreed to the terms but no one else was hit with the spell since the rogue did all the talking.

Problem: So herein lies the problem, the party had full knowledge that the temple was at the bottom of the ocean, or at least pretty deep. The party also had just recently gotten paid for providing information on a missing princess (8k a piece) and they had about 15-20k worth of party kitty to work with. Instead of buying anything to assist with underwater combat, nor even a boat to get out there they all opted to upgrade basic weapon and armor enchantments. The plan was to have the temple guarded by a menagerie of naturally lycanthropic sea creatures (twisted descendants of the clerics who sank with the temple some 400 years ago), I was also going to give said creatures a couple of class levels to bring the challenge rating on par with what the party should be fighting and because they are the protectors of a Temple to Gozreh and should have class levels for verisimilitude.

So: What do I do, the only player who stands a chance is going to be the druid, but as a lion shaman (and a relative newcomer to pathfinder) she's going to be hurting somewhat, the (meta-seasoned)Gunslinger didn't purchase and Dry Load ammunition, nor even a potion of air bubble, and as a party they only bought 4 potions of water breathing for the 6 of them. Near the end of last session I put them up against a lower level Black Dragon, who had his lair underwater, just to try to drive home the point that they lacked appropriate equipment, but they opted to lure out the dragon and then send the wildshaped druid in to rescue his loot, a tactic that won't work at the temple. The way I see it, if they try to go down there as is then some of them are definitely gonna die, but it's their own fault, and I already held back last time they went somewhere unprepared.

Any thoughts? I know I posted an ocean(wink wink nudge nudge) of text, but the game is tonight and I'm at a loss.

Thanks


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1. Don't see anything that would rule it out
2. Probably Arms and Armor as caltrops are a weapon-like item.
3. Caltrops already ignore Armor, Shield, and Deflection bonuses, making them brilliant energy as well will only ignore the +2 circumstance AC bonus for wearing boots and prevent them from harming Undead and constructs.
I don't see anything that would allow caltrops to ignore DR so you may get more out of just carrying bags of caltrops made of silver, cold iron, or adamantine, alternatively get them blessed or desecrated so they align good or evil.


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There was an equivalent weapon of this type back in 3.5, naturally i no longer have those resources. I'm pretty sure it went from longbow to longsword or shortbow to short sword though. If you could find that it might be a real easy port into pathfinder


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Oh and answering a question posted way earlier, Hemlock is expensive because it takes a stat other than con and makes it so that when it's reduced to 0 the opponent dies instead of just going unconscious or being helpless.


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Since pathfinder treats poisons as an affliction, like a disease or a curse, instead of the alchemical item it is, rules/a system is not in place to accommodate the creative crafting of poisons. I've looked into a logical system for increasing cost based off of DC or type or type of damage but so far despite all of my playing with poisons I just haven't found a rough formula i liked

Green prismatic poison is a spell, it's effect functions as a poison so it's included in the list but it can not be crafted, only called into being via the prismatic spells.


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Oh and I forgot to mention that on your next level you qualify for the daggermark poisoner prestige class, 1 level of that cuts your craft time in half, so you could then easily be making the equivalent of 12 to 18 doses per week.

3 levels in this class will net you something closer to the equivalent of 348 doses with a weeks worth of work assuming you have the money to support a habit like that

Now granted if i run an alchemist I can do even better but at this point what does it matter?


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Rogue Poisoner can still work, it takes a slightly different path than the alchemist but can still be effective.

1: Master Alchemist as your 5th level feat, I'm guessing as a poisoner you've been putting ranks in every level so you easily have the prerequisite 5 ranks, this means you craft poisons 10x faster, and can create multiple doses at once so technically a rogue with a 16 int crafts poisons 30x faster just based off your intelligence and that 1 feat.

2: Whereas the alchemist has discoveries you have talents, namely Swift Poison-Move action to apply, and lasting poison-applied poisons last for 2 successful hits, you can also grab the advanced talent deadly cocktail allowing you to put two poisons on the same weapon at the same time, assuming you have the lasting poisons talent that equals 4 saves if you can hit someone twice, put similar effect poisons and you can easily drop someone right there.

3: Master poisoner class ability, with 1 hour of work you can turn that injury poison into an inhalant, which if you throw at the intersection of squares means you can dose 4 enemies with that 1 poison. Also you are getting a bonus on your craft alchemy equal to 1/2 your rogue level.

4: Skill Focus, use it

5: play human, take heart of the fields alternate racial trait-+1/2 character level on particular craft check

6: Take feat Prodigy-+2 more craft poison

So 5th level master poisoner with int 16 should be pulling 5 ranks +3 class skill +3 ability modifier +2 class ability +3 skill focus +2 heart +2 prodigy= 20 base so average roll of 30

Now pick high save, low cost poisons, don't worry too much about their effects, I like purple worm at 700gp personally, base save of 24, requires 2 consecutive saves to cure

24*30=720, so one week of work (normal quality) nets you 3 doses each of which lasts for 2 successful attacks when placed on a weapon so lets call that the equivalent of 6 doses in one week at a cost to you of just 1 dose had you purchased it, assuming you can find someone who sells it in the first place.

I call that viable, especially since shy of a natural 1 its impossible to fail that craft check by 5 or more which would mean destroying half your raw materials, so its virtually risk free


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great idea, thanks


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I've been tossing around this great idea of a necromancer/illusionist, where he augments his actual undead minions with a horde of illusionary ones. More bluff and brains than brawn to be sure. Figure eventually I'll use shadow conjurations to give the hordes some combat effectiveness but I'm struggling with figuring out the proper race/class/classes combo to do this. I'd like to use Sorcerer for the charisma boost to bluff and intimidate, but that means slowing my access to spells and his versatility. Considered mixing in cleric for the undead control, but that again means slowing spell progression. Any thoughts on a viable combo?


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I think your idea is awesome, and as a GM would totally allow it, and since you're effectively giving up the added combat might of leadership, I would even be ok with you having a revenue stream from this. Ideas like this are what make the game great for me.


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Presuming your close enough, it would resolve as a touch attack, so armor is less of an issue, i think the challenge here is primarily the expense of getting a strong enough powder to not only offset the damage of the bullet but also provide useful healing, other potions alchemically reduced in this way could actually prove worth it though


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It's very pretty, I'll be interested to see how well they integrate the pf system with all it's variants and archtypes


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Is this implying a firefly anime?


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hmm...cram session huh, never heard of a homebrew rule like that before but i like it. What do you think would be fair for that?... half their level worth of crammable points, no possible class bonus(even if its a class skill for him), takes an hour to cram, and retention lasts for hours*lvl?


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yeah I'm definitely giving him the 25 point buy, I was going to stick with the medium progression and just dumb down the encounters, seeing as he'll only need a 1/4 of the xp to level as the whole party generally would have, he will likely still level faster than the AP is designed and assuming he doesn't get too far ahead I have no problem with this.

I haven't actually read up on sixfold trial, but i'll keep in mind the need for npc actors, thanks.

I figure that I can tweak a few of the CoW to fill specific roles, like skill monkey and healer on the limited occasions where I feel them absolutely necessary, but I'd prefer not to keep a constant NPC party with him if I can help it.


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I should mention that this will be his first game ever. While generally I don't intervene in player death, I imagine I will at least the first few times for him, but even should he actually die I have a contingency plan in place in which he becomes a petitioner and can earn his way back to life in a new and improved form. So while death is possible it isn't going to be permanent as long as he is having fun and wishes to continue.


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Hey all I've just started the process of converting this AP for a single player and am curious if there are any specific things/encounters that I should watch out for. My player is running an Aasimar Synth Summoner using a 25 point buy and double starting wealth. My general plan is to throw either a 1/4 of the enemies at him or if quantity can't be reduced that much then either half the enemies at 1/2 health or all the enemies at 1/4 health, or some appropriate combo of the above so that the AP retains the appropriate feel.

Having said that, any suggestions?


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it could always just voluntarily skip the grab on the claws


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ikki3520 wrote:
A bit like my own, gluing two portable holes onto a fullplate and have the enemy swing their sword in the air, while im killing them :p

Wait...you can glue portable holes...


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Personally I'd skip both the Arcane Armor feats and just take Still Spell instead, Stilled spells are only 1 lvl higher and the difference between the armor bonus of something like full plate vs. mage armor is massive, as much as 10 points depending on how it's enchanted. I have an EK with folding plate as his arcane bond and still spell, that way I don't have to worry about actually taking the time to don the armor and when it's inconvenient for spell casting or movement i can be rid of it. I know you said low magic but it's possibly the best arcane bond an EK can get


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ooh, Ultimate Challenges, I like the sound of that, I'd accept a simple template, monster builder section in a book full of traps, haunts, and hazards, and rules for creating new ones of those


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Greg Wasson wrote:

I so want to make a setting with a blink dog messenger service now.

Greg

Strange, I want to play a halfling mounted archer with a blink dog as my mount.


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you can die while wearing a ring of regeneration, unlike the universal monster ability it doesn't specifically say you can't die from hit point loss, so yeah inferior.

I'll grant you however that you have found the only way to acquire swallow whole, hope your DM allows a synthesist, or even a summoner in general.

But that doesn't change the point I was driving at, the goal should be an instruction manual for the BUILDING of monsters not just a plethora of brand new monster bloat.


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Shy of very unique magic items there are a ton of things monsters can do that no PC will ever achieve. I read a post the other day about a guy building a character who was a chef that could eat his foes, but guess what swallow whole is a purely monster ability that a PC just can't get. You want a trolls regeneration, good luck, you can get something close but it's clearly an inferior ability when put next to the troll.

So while I agree that for most things you are using the same set of legos, pcs, npcs, and monsters all have some unique legos of their own.

The real request here isn't for a new set of legos, its for a series of blueprints that help demonstrate which legos can attach to which other legos and for an easy CR calculation of your new creation.

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