StabbittyDoom wrote:Rhedyn wrote:I see no reason why we should've ever treated them different. And in my home games, I don't. Though this is the first case I've seen where it might actually matter.FrodoOf9Fingers wrote:
Also, your familiar gains your armor proficiency :)Heavy Armor Prof. wrote:Special: Fighters and paladins automatically have Heavy Armor Proficiency as a bonus feat. They need not select itThat language is not used for martial weapon prof. though, sad day.
The distinction that proficiencies are not feats was done in a 3.5 rules clarification.
I see no such reason to think proficiencies are not feats in pathfinder.
There was a spell that would let you turn one feat into another in 3.5
Obviously you wouldn't want a caster to transform the fighter into some sort of infinite feat beast (which would have mattered in 3.5, and no the new feat did not have to be one you would have qualified for when you got the old feat).
As a remember, elves were useful for this spell because their extra weapons explicitly came from feats.
One could gain infinite feats with those spells through other means. From what I could see the deal with elves was that they provided a limited enough number of bonus feats that more DMs would allow the trick to work where as infinite feats were much less likely.