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Sebastian Hirsch wrote:

I supported the recent legendary gamess mythic kickstarter, and the plan seems to be to send out the pdfs to us, then gather the feedback to fix every typo and only then send it to the printer.

I appreciate, that this might cause some trouble with retail, but would this be an option you would be willing to experiment with?

Crowdsourcing development and editing come with their own problems. Yes, you will probably catch and fix more mistakes, but the in-house effort spent to find each issue will be significantly higher. Let me give you a small-scale example:

Whenever we prepare to reprint a book, we have somebody—usually Jason—scan the FAQ queue and go through the main discussion threads for that product looking for things that need to be fixed. This is a process that might take a few days. Then, he and his team work on solving those problems if they haven't already been solved. During this process, they will also be investigating problem reports that are actually false positives; for example, somebody might have complained that a number in a stat block is wrong, but when we redo the math, we often find that we were right in the first place. This might take another few days. At the end of it, we have a list of changes that then go through editing, layout, and proofing, meaning more people spending more days. And the end result of that work gets summed up in an errata doc that's usually less than a page or two. In short, many man-hours of effort that result in maybe a dozen little changes.

Now image that we do that as an open call. Our days would turn into weeks, and maybe our errata doc would grow from a dozen items to two dozen, with each of the additional items very likely being far less noticeable than the previous dozen. It's the law of diminishing returns.

And crowdsourcing still won't catch everything. We're in our 6th printing of the Core Rulebook now, and in each printing, we've made corrections in response to our community identifying problems, which is a pretty similar effect to the crowdsourcing you describe. An amazingly high number of people have been using that book every day—it's referenced far more that any other book players use, for sure—yet we're *still* finding problems that nobody pointed out in the first five years the book was out.

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Captain Bulldozer wrote:
Captain Bulldozer wrote:
Or even better, paizo could make a symbol to always represent the AD#, the way MtG invented the "tap" symbol, and use it as often as it needs to (which is quite a bit).
Wouldn't this idea also save quite a bit of text-space on the actual cards? Am I allowed to like my own idea? ;)

"Symbols vs. words" is a big philosophical deal, and we have elected to go for words in our version of this game.

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I liked the little play. If we were making it into an audio drama, I would cast Orson Welles as The Game—or, if we're doing a British production, Valentine Dyall. (Though casting either of them has been something of a challenge these last 30 years...)

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csouth154 wrote:
Yes, but the entire reason this resolution was required in the first place is that there is something about this scenario rule that confused many people into thinking that their hand size COULD exceed the normal limit in this scenario, and the way this resolution is worded does nothing to address this.

Yes—the thing that confused people into thinking that their hand size could exceed the normal limit is because we specifically *told them* it was equal to a number that could be greater than their hand size. We're not telling them that anymore, and nothing else is.

Would putting more words on the card make it a belt-and-suspenders surety? Yep. But we don't have room for that.

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Jorgenfist does *not* say "If a monster with the Giant trait is defeated, roll 1d6. On a 1, the monster is undefeated." It says "If you *would* defeat a monster with the Giant trait, roll 1d6. On a 1, the monster is undefeated."

We use "would" when we're talking about things that don't actually happen or, in this case, *may* not actually happen. (See this post for more on that.) He is neither defeated nor undefeated until you roll the die; if you roll a 1, he was never defeated, so the banishing part of Disintegrate never comes into play.

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See post 1: "This is not a rules discussion thread. Please keep this thread for updates and commentary about the FAQ itself, not about the gameplay issues that are or are not described in the FAQ."

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The street date for the Class Decks was moved to September 24.

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Discussion of the 1st Amendment is banned on these boards. Thread locked.

Spoiler:
Kidding! Just kidding!

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Also as opposed to weapons that get worse when you have proficiency.

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Fortunately, checks don't go that high. At least, not until we find the infinite loop that we accidentally designed into one of those....

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Moved to RPG homebrew forum.

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And two more.

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Hawkmoon269 wrote:
So if Hirgenzosk was in a location deck and you encountered him and played Disintegrate and rolled above a 30, he'd still be undefeated. But Disintegrate would kick in and let you banish him instead of shuffling him back into the location deck.

Nope. Disintegrate says "If you defeat a non-villain monster when playing this spell, banish that monster, even if it would otherwise be undefeated," but Hirgenzosk says "If Hirgenzosk would be defeated, he is undefeated," not "If Hirgenzosk is defeated, he is undefeated."

We use "would" when we're talking about things that don't actually happen. Take Greater Luckstone from RotR: "If you would fail a check by 2 or less, you may bury this card to succeed." Clearly, when you play that card, you don't fail and then succeed—you simply succeed. That's the power of would.

Since Hirgenzosk is never *actually* defeated, Disintegrate doesn't get to banish him.

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If you want more fun with this concept, consider disintegrating Jorgenfist Stone Giant in Jorgenfist.

You defeat him with Disintegrate, and:
A) the scenario says if he's defeated and you roll a 1, he's undefeated;
B) he himself says that if he's defeated, you get to attempt to close the location;
C) the spell says if he's defeated, he's banished;

A doesn't actually contradict B or C, so the golden rule is never invoked—instead, we just have Schroedinger's cat in a box, and the encounter cannot resolve until you do A. If you roll a 1, B and C no longer apply, so that's easy. And if you don't roll a 1, well, B and C don't contradict either, so you do them both, and the order doesn't matter. Meaning he's banished.

These are the kinds of discussions that your rules questions make us have on a regular basis.

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Added to FAQ.

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Thehigher cause wrote:
Nicos wrote:
Personally I can't honestly recommend buying the physical copy, not until a second printing with all the Erratas.
I agree 100%

Ironically, every person who takes that stance actually delays the publication of the second printing... and if enough people were to do that, there would *be* no second printing.

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We do print fewer copies of the later volumes of each AP. Also, distributors sometimes make unpredictable purchases, sometime even ordering more copies of later volumes than they did of earlier volumes.

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What you have there is a registration issue. Occasionally one or more of the 4 color printing plates doesn’t line up correctly with the others. (In your case, it was the cyan plate.) Sometimes it’s because the plate shifts, which usually means it happens on several consecutive sheets (which would mean several consecutive decks), but more commonly, it’s just because the paper moved a fraction of an inch when it shouldn’t have. In registration errors, it's fairly common for one corner of the sheet to be perfectly in registration, and the opposite corner to be out of registration, which is why it's noticeable on some cards but not others. (This isn't just a card thing—it can happen whenever you print with multiple plates.)

Sharaya will get you fixed up.

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S&S Rulebook wrote:

If a loot card is returned to the box, put it back with the other

loot cards. If a loot card ends up in a location deck, you automatically
acquire it when you encounter it.

The latter sentence was put in place because in S&S, there is actually a way that a loot card can be yanked out of your hand and shoved into a location deck, so we had to tell you how you can get it back. (We chose something easy because when that thing happens, you're already in a bad situation: you will lose that loot permanently if you don't manage to encounter it before the end of the scenario.)

But that doesn't play nicely with Cintra's house rule suggestion, as it means loot that somebody has passed up would now be the easiest thing to acquire in the game (along with Blessing of the Gods), and it really shouldn't be.

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Caltrops doesn't fake-roll imaginary dice, it just toggles the universal "defeated/undefeated" switch to the "defeated" position.

Did you defeat it by more than 4? There's nothing to suggest you did, so shuffle the rats.

(Turns out that caltrops are not the best way to stop a swarm of rats.)

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Added one item to the FAQ.

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What we mean is this:

If you have a character promo card, you can use it right away. If you have a ship promo card, as soon as you have checked off any ships of the same class on your fleet card, you may treat the promo card as if it has been checked off as well (see Place Your Party’s Ship on page 7). You shouldn’t add other promo cards to the game until you begin the first chapter of the Adventure Path.

Added to FAQ.

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Retailers didn't need to sign up for the OP program to get the pack—indeed, the whole point of the pack was to tell them they *can* sign up! They *should* have just gotten them along with their July shipment of Paizo products from their distributor.

I'll ask our sales team to investigate the situation with the two stores in IL.

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The insert that comes with them tells you exactly what they are: "10 Standard Ultra•PRO Deck Protector Sleeves (Stock #82667)." They are the same as these.

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I removed a post. Discussion of circumventing the registration requirements of other websites is not appropriate.

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chbgraphicarts wrote:
10) The fact that the exact nature and obstacles of the Test of the Starstone is ambiguous, thus letting me imagine that Cayden Cailean achieved Godhood by soloing the Tomb of Horrors while drunk.

I read that as soiling the Tomb of Horrors while drunk. Which, you know, seems likely.

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BigDTBone wrote:
(1) it didn't get fixed.

Yes, it did. We fixed the ligature problems in the PDF on July 30, 2010, and in a print edition released July 21, 2011.

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pluvia33 wrote:
Actually, no. Mogmurch was, indeed, supposed to be shipped to retailers in July as part of an announcement of the OP system for the card game. ... Some retailers (mine included) did not get the announcement pack. This could be because they didn't order any Paizo products for the month of July or there was an issue with their distributer.

All that is correct, and I'd like to know who their distributor is...

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We will be publishing a "how to make and run this demo" document very soon, and it'll include all the necessary modifications to the list Mike gave you. In the meantime, just pick a card of the same type with the Basic trait.

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I would like to be clear that we do try to avoid saying *never*. When we did the Rise of the Runelords anniversary edition, we said that it was a special circumstance—an exception to the rule—but we haven't said that there will definitely never ever be another exception. But it took 5 years to do the first one, and it's been a few years since that came out, and we're not working on one now.

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Redacted [on telephone]: Kate, I really appreciate that you want to name your child after me—really, it's quite flattering—but you know that if you don't go with something like Philip, Edward, or Charles, there's going to be trouble. If it's a boy, of course. If it's a girl, though, you could certainly go with Victoria—that would be quite nice, and nobody would catch on to who she's really named after. Either way, just you suggesting it is quite the honor, though. Anyway, please give my best to William and little George, and of course hugs to Gramma Liz! Ta!

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Added one item today.

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One today.

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There are many misconceptions about the OGL and it's applicability to computer games in this thread.

First, the d20 license and the OGL are two different things. The OGL covers game mechanics and other open game content, while the d20 license was primarily a license to use Wizards of the Coast's d20 *brand*. You could not make a computer game using the d20 license because it specifically forbid the creation of "Interactive Games." These days, that's a moot point: Wizards of the Coast apparently no longer offers the d20 license.

The OGL—which is the license that we actually care about for this discussion—does *not* limit the types of media with which it may be used. However, it does contain this sentence: "No other terms or conditions may be applied to any Open Game Content distributed using this License."

A lot of software (but by no means all of it) involves middleware licenses or other mandated licensing terms that may collide rather badly with this statement. Determining exactly when that restriction might apply to a particular middleware or distribution license is a potential minefield, and a situation that Paizo has generally chosen to avoid.

That said, even if we knew we *could* convert the Pathfinder RPG rules directly into an MMO, we really wouldn't want to. There are basic mechanics that are essential to the RPG that just don't translate to the MMO environment, such as six-second combat rounds (combat in less than real time would make for an incredibly frustrating experience in an MMO) and gaining experience and leveling up your character (diehard players would run through so many encounters so fast that they'd hit level 20 in a matter of days, effectively running themselves out of character advancement options in no time). And those are just two problems of many.

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You want the Pathfinder Accessories subforum. (Pawns aren't a licensed product—we make them ourselves.)

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Enlight_Bystand wrote:
The class decks are primrially for organised play, but can be used for other forms of play.

The word "primarily" there is incorrect. While a Class Deck is required for our organized play program, it was designed just as much to be an accessory to any PACG Adventure Path. Frankly, I expect that more people will use them as accessories than in the OP program.

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Calthaer wrote:
Removing cards from the game is not a rule for the game at-large, just for the adventure path. There might be some adventure path, some day, where they don't do that...maybe. Perhaps they'd remove cards a different way, or at a different pace.

Correct. In fact, Season of the Shackles in PFSACG Organized Play works differently; you'll (soon) find the rules for that on the season's Adventure Path sheet.

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Vic Wertz wrote:
Vic Wertz wrote:
It was definitely rare. It is the only card in Limited that has a one-blue-mana for three-of-something, so I can't image what else might fit that "cycle." (That said, I don't recall anybody ever talking about that cycle at the time, and Rosewater wasn't an employee during those days—just a very active fan who occasionally wrote for The Duelist magazine. It would not surprise me if that idea was a retrofit...)
I see it was mentioned here in 2002... and I don't see anybody talking about "the boon cycle" before that. I still think it was a retrofit.

I checked with Skaff Elias, one of the original Magic designers (and who is in one of my weekly PACG groups); he says that Richard Garfield did indeed call that set of cards "the boon cycle" from the beginning.

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Yep. Soon!

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The two main negative effects of that idea are that 1) It would delay those orders from getting fulfilled (which is a problem if the note says "please make sure this ships in time for my cousin's birthday!") and 2) it would create a second queue that would allow people who have placed orders to get ahead of everyone else, which is not necessarily fair.

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Our Community Guidelines did recently change, but they do say this:

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Raymond Lambert wrote:
That second diagonal really perked my eyebrow also but the text is too blurry to read the details. Surfice it to say I will be keeping a close eye on this.

You can click on it to see a bigger image....

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Hawkmoon269 wrote:

I think you shuffle Hirgenzosk into the rest of the location, then continue with your encounter. Here is why:

S&S Rulebook p9 wrote:
When you explore, flip over the top card of your current location deck.
S&S Rulebook p10 wrote:
After you flip over the top card of the location deck, put it on top of the deck and read it.

That basically makes the card you are encountering a faceup card.

S&S Rulebook p11 wrote:

RULES: FACEUP CARDS

Sometimes a card is left faceup on the top of the location deck (for example, most barriers with the Task trait work this way). The card is still in the deck, but it can only be shuffled into the deck when the condition that caused it to be left faceup on the deck has been resolved.

So you can't shuffle the encountered card until you've resolved what made it faceup, which is encountering the card. So until you evade it or resolve the encounter, it stays faceup. So I'd shuffle Hirgenzosk into the rest of the location deck, then continue with the encounter as normal.

That.

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Any character at the ship's location is on the ship.

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When a PDF is updated, you should get an email letting you know what changed. I will ask for that to be detailed enough to tell you which bits need to be reprinted.

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Andrew,

You might want to explore this thread.

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Fire on boats is nasty. Just saying.

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Added one entry.

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SilentInfinity wrote:
Good career path and plan. Also good to see Paizo value the experience and promote up!

Other Paizo employees who escaped Customer Service include sales associate Cosmo Eisele, managing editor James Sutter, and COO Jeff Alvarez.

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AinvarG wrote:
It seems unnecessarily difficult to locate lists of products that are officially in the pipeline. I can see what's coming up in the subscription list, but there are apparently products that have been officially announced - maybe at conventions - that are not showing in the subscription list yet.

"Officially announced" is kind of the key phrase to answering your question. While we will often talk about future products at convention seminars, we don't consider anything *officially* announced until it has a title, a product code, a price, and a release date, and—this is key—until we have informed our distribution partners about it through their regular solicitation procedures. When *all* of those things become true, that's when we create a product page for it on paizo.com. Until then, consider it unofficial—even if it's in our own product catalog!

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