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Theryon Stormrune wrote:
I'd recommend that we have a demo to help teach newbies even though it is recommended that people have at least played the game prior. Hint, hint ... can we get the demo (played at GenCon) as an intro to S&S.

Yep—we're working on instructions for that now.

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We're planning to release a document that tells you how to build a quick demo using the S&S Base Set.

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Gorbacz wrote:
Obsidian, makers of KOTOR, Fallout: New Vegas and Pillars of Eternity + Pathfinder = ?

What chicanery! It's a complete fabrication! Totally Photoshopped! A hoax of the greatest proportions! You're being hornswoggled. Misled! Bamboozled. Duped. Flimflammed! Hoodwinked and defrauded! You have all bought a complete load of codswallop!

Lisa Stevens wrote:

All will be revealed this weekend. Well, maybe not all. :)

Press release tomorrow. More details throughout the weekend. We are talking about more than one type of game. I think you guys will be happy. :)

Btw, they are NOT taking over Pathfinder Online. Let's squash that right now.

-Lisa

Oh. Er... carry on.

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Maloo wrote:
The last book before the next edition?

We'll be announcing the next book in the RPG line at Gen Con. (Gasp! Could it really be it a new edition?)

Spoiler:
Nope.

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Ok... I think I've answered everything. Feel free to pop back in with more, and if I missed anything, let me know.

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Greyhawke115 wrote:
Are we limited in the number of characters we register? In other words, if I have opportunities to play multiple games at a store, or different stores, or a mix of home and store games, can I register a different character for each?

Yes. Please do!

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eddiephlash wrote:
They've said several times on the forums and in the guide itself that season 0 is going to be a trial run to see how this goes. I think some of these comments are way too nitpicky for a product that isn't out yet. If you want to play a full fledged, tight rules system game, then come back in a year. Meanwhile, the rest of us will be here helping Paizo figure out how exactly this is all going to work, and enjoying the evolution.

No worries—it's all taken in the spirit of improvement, and it's all helpful.

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pluvia33 wrote:
So I mentioned this in the product discussion, but I think things might need to be a little more clear as far as what cards are available to add to an organized play box. It seems like the intent is that you should only be using Skull & Shackles cards for the box (meaning the Base Set, Character Add-On Deck, and Promo cards made for Skull & Shackles), that you shouldn't add any cards from the Rise of the Runelords release.

The OP adventures themselves tell you what goes in the game box for each adventure. The Guide also specifically allows you to add promo cards to that, and no, we don't care what sets the promos are from.

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ThreeEyedSloth wrote:

Based on conversations with other folks, here are some suggestions I have for the Guide:

1. The "card pool" section regarding rewards could really benefit from a diagram or illustration to demonstrate what it refers to. As it is, I can easily see it causing confusion for some players about how to handle the end of a scenario. It's just a weirdly worded chunk of text that would greatly benefit from a visual aid.

2. I know it's implied throughout the Guide, and it even states that a Class Deck is required. However, I think explicitly stating which Class Decks are available to use would dispel any possible confusion. For example, listing the seven Class Decks that can be used for PFSACG OP would prevent some folks from mistakenly assuming a Class Deck just means any deck constructed from a class, such as a Gunslinger or Swashbuckler. Remember, you never want players to make assumptions about the rules of the game. Even if it's painfully obvious, it's always better to be explicitly clear to avoid future headaches for you and the organizers.

3. While we're talking about being explicit, some clearer wording about exactly when certain types of cards, such as Basic and Elite, get cycled out will be helpful in the long run. Again, being clear means a smaller window of incorrect assumptions. State exactly which scenario begins the culling of each type of card in the Guide.

4. I'm sure it's coming, but include PFSACG VO's in the guide and not just a link to the regional coordinator page.

5. Include a header and link to the Store Locator for players to easily find PFSACG OP events near them.

6. I know Vic has mentioned it's coming as well, but we really, really need a separate Organized Play messageboard for PACG, sooner rather than later. It helps catch the attention of forum browsers and lurkers and builds interest among the Paizo community by keeping that discussion is a clearly defined location.

1. Can you give me a more specific idea of what you have in mind?

2. We're trying to avoid things that need to be updated often. But if we find that people are misunderstanding it, that would be worth making an exception for.

3. This is covered on the Adventure Path card. (And it belongs there, because it may not be the same for every Adventure Path.)

4. We're trying to avoid things that need to be updated often. And that list gets updated OFTEN.

5. Good call. Can't believe we left that out!

6. Yes, coming soon.

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Hawkmoon269 wrote:

It hasn't been asked yet, but since I think it relates to the discussion about a character not from the class deck...

Hypothetical Question wrote:

Why does the section on building my initial character deck mention not having enough Basic cards?

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If you do not have enough such cards to finish building your deck, you may then add cards with the B set indicator that do not have the Basic trait.
Will there not be enough basic boons in the class deck?

My guess is the reason this is in there is so that if you take a character from an Adventure Path and use the appropriate class deck, you might find you a short a basic boon.

For instance, say the Fighter Class Deck fighters all have 4 blessings or less on their initial deck list. So only 4 Blessings of the Gods are included in the class deck box to maximize space for other cards. But then one day you decide to play Valeros from Curse of the Crimson Throne. And that Valeros starts with 5 blessings. Now you've got a problem, since you only have 4 BotGs. So this little rule gives you a way to solve that problem. I'm fairly certain this rule won't come up while you are using a character from the class deck itself. (Though I could also be wrong.)

Amazingly, for once, you're wrong! This is by design. The Class Decks do not necessarily have enough Basic B cards to build your deck, even for characters in the Class Deck box. They *do* have enough B cards if you use non-Basics, though. You may recognize that this represents a slight power increase, but in OP, we don't have any B scenarios—we jump right into Adventure 1. (You'll appreciate this later.)

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agraham2410 wrote:

My question was.

the senario cards for the adventure card tells you to remove cards from the game at a certain point in the game. Eg after senario pack 3.
Does the same hold true for your cards in the charactor deck or are you stuck with having basic cards in your deck?

The Adventure Path card for organized play works differently from the regular Adventure Path card.

That said, when we have you remove cards, you'll only remove the cards from your game box, not your class deck box. (However, just because they're in your Class Deck box doesn't mean they have to be in your character deck.)

Also, we will do a pass to make sure that the word "box" is always specified as either "game box" or "Class Deck box."

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I have pointed our Art Director at this thread. (I have no idea what the process here was.)

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1. If your plan is to take multiple groups through the Organized Play Adventure Path, pick one character from each group to register.

2. You do currently have to register an event before you can report it, but you don't need to do that in advance—you can register it and report it at the same time.

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All I'll say to that is that while one person may think we don't go far enough in a particular direction, I guarantee you there are going to be others who think we go too far in whatever that direction is, and very likely can use the *exact* same point as the first person in evidence of their point.

As for inconsistency, well, we are not a hive mind. We are dozens of individuals, and we don't all perceive or react to things the same way. (And I'm okay with that, because working in a place where everybody thinks the same is creepy.)

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I'm not sure "haberdasher" is the right word, especially for somebody that clearly spends more time forging than sewing. I'm going to go with "Hatsmith."

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Vic Wertz wrote:

With RotR, our first card printer was not able to manufacture dice, so we purchased them from another supplier. We did not have the luxury of creating our own die mold; they supplied the standard polyhedral die molds that everyone in China seems to use—it uses 3 different fonts across the five dice and has a 0 on the d10.

Our US printer does make dice (or, at least, subcontracts them), though they weren't able to spool up production on that in time for the RotR 2nd printing, so we just bought more of the same dice for that.

But since we *did* have time with S&S, and they needed to create a new mold anyway, I asked for that mold to be made with a 10 on the d10. (And with the same font on all the dice!)

I have not actually seen these dice yet. I'm only a little bit nervous about that.

The Base Set arrived in our warehouse today (it has already been shipping to distributors, and to Gen Con). And I've finally seen the dice. The good news: there is a "10" on the d10 instead of a 0. The not-so-good news: they did not change the font on the other dice, and indeed introduced a brand-new one for the d10. So, 5 dice, 4 fonts. (Yeah, I know 98% of people won't notice, and I should just shut my yap about it...)

And the really good news: everything else looks fabulous.

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Here.

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We didn't suppress posts from people who disagree with what we've done. The post is still there to read. (You can even favorite it if you want—somebody else already has.) We locked a thread that our experience tells us was going to quickly turn into a flame war (which, by the way, prevented a person who disagreed with what we've done from being the *target* of said flame war).

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As Erik said in his post, "WizKids plans to apply 'premium' paint jobs to these figures, using some of the very best figures we've produced to date as a quality benchmark."

The average number of paint operations on these minis should be notably higher than the average number of paint ops on most of the existing rare figs.

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While we don't discuss exact print numbers, Erik did say above that there are "tens of thousands of copies" of this book with the wrong logo.

Many of you know that I'm a Star Wars collector, and when I see a Star Wars item that says "Limited Edition of 10,000 copies", I read that as "not a limited edition."

What I'm saying is... if you want to invest in collectibles, and you have a choice between this book and an Inverted Jenny, I suggest you go for the latter.

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ikarinokami wrote:
Erich Williams wrote:
So much modding... is there a "Clarification of the Clarification of the Clarification of Posting Guidelines" thread? Because the lines I've read here are blurry and non-static.

you can only post wish lists, but can't say why you want that "thing on your wish list" or "why it should be there"

yes, your intiution that this is thread is irrational is correct, it doesn't make anysense whatsoever.

Come on, folks, it's not rocket science. It only seems blurry because I have to keep restating it in different ways to try to get people to understand it. And I genuinely don't get why people aren't getting it. We want this thread to be ABOUT THIS BOOK, not a debate about every game mechanic anybody wants to see changed. That's all there is to it, but no matter how many ways I try to say that, people keep trying to start debates about game mechanics, and THIS IS NOT THE PLACE FOR THAT. The posts I have deleted have NO CONTENT ABOUT THIS BOOK. Somebody posts "I would like to see X addressed in this book," which is a perfectly valid post because it's ABOUT THIS BOOK, and then somebody else responds to them about why X is or is not broken, which is NOT ABOUT THIS BOOK. I'm going to remove those.

It's perfectly fine for you to say why something is on your wish list for this book. Take Imbicatus's post above—it's perfectly useful and on topic, because it's about what he wants to see IN THE BOOK. But if somebody responds to that by saying that the Spiked Chain [wasn't nerfed/should have been nerfed harder/is stupid and should be banned from the game/is the best thing in the game], I'm going to remove that post. Because it would NOT BE ABOUT THE BOOK.

Pretty easy test, really: Is your post ABOUT THE BOOK?

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NOG the Demoralizer wrote:

Eagerly awaiting information on a subscription for this, I am frequently too lazy to remember to add things to my sidecart.

Vic, any chance of the PFACG discount on these? Advantage discount is great, but another 5% would sweeten the deal.

If not, will they officially be part of the Battles line, or will they be their own sort of thing?

They are part of the Pathfinder Battles line, but they will not automatically be part of any subscription. I think we'll be able to give Battles subscribers *and* Card Game subscribers their usual discounts on them, but we'll need to test that.

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Theryon Stormrune wrote:
Well, the rules don't say either way about replaying scenarios you've completed. All it says is if you did not complete a scenario that you must do so before continuing.

Correct. Replaying completed scenarios is outside of the scope of the standard rules. If you want to do it, we're not going to stop you—it's your game, after all!—but you should be aware that you that can easily make the game a lot less fun than we intended if you are not careful.

That said, the Pathfinder Society Adventure Card Guild *does* support replaying scenarios you've completed, and the rules for that will be out later this week. They should translate to standard play reasonably well.

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Yep—six brand-new cards in each box, and this will be the only way to get them.

The current plan is for 7 sets that will cover all 31 iconics from the Core Rulebook, Advanced Player's Guide, Ultimate Magic, Ultimate Combat, and the Advanced Class Guide, plus notable animal companion/familiar/eidolon.

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Here is a list of the 8 Rise of the Runelords promo cards, and here is a blog post that tells you about 9 of the 12 promos for Skull & Shackles.

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More removed.

If your comment does not connect directly to this book in some way, it does not belong here.

Seriously, folks.

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Charlie Bell wrote:
Think about how many 4E books vs. Pathfinder books you'd see on a typical B&N shelf.

Sometimes, when you see lots of copies of a book on a shelf, it's because it's selling really well and the retailer wants to make sure they have plenty of stock. And sometimes it's because it didn't sell as well as they thought it would.

Sometimes, when you don't see any copies of a book on a shelf, it's because it's not very popular and the retailer doesn't want to have much inventory of it. And sometimes it's because it sold a lot faster than they thought it would.

In short, you can't gauge popularity (or the lack thereof) by the presence or absence of books on a shelf.

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BigDTBone wrote:

(A) Even if the friends account was completely insanely unreasonably biased in the procedure/process/mechanism of the events in question; there are 2 pieces which standout and cannot be dismissed without directly calling someone you don't know a liar. Those pieces are (1) the friends paizo.com account was closed, (2) the friend believed this was a result of piracy involving his watermarked PDF's.

So, all we really have to determine is if the friend's perception was good enough to accurately report on (2). Vic was in this thread earlier and had an opportunity to say, "we don't close accounts for piracy reasons." He didn't. He did imply there may be more to the situation than we know of. Sure, of course there was. The guy was probably a horse's ass about getting his account closed. It may have been temporary but the guy's terrible attitude made the Paizo CS guys decide to wash their hands of this guy. Whatever it is, it doesn't matter, because pieces (1) and (2) from above still hold true. And those are the only important pieces of the story for Yerdiss' comments to remain valid.

What happened in that original incident is between Paizo and that individual; it would be horrifically inappropriate to comment on it here. All I will say is that it is not safe to assume than anything you outlined as truth is actually true.

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I've removed some posts.

Talking about what you want to see in the book is fine, but talking about other people's opinions of what they want to see in the book is just edging this into an open debate forum about any mechanic anybody wants to have changed. We really want this thread to be about the product and not a debate about the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game.

TALKING ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE'S OPINIONS—DON'T DO IT HERE.

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People still publish magazines?

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Agradeleous wrote:
I wonder how different/original the boons in the class decks will be compared to the boons in the regular base games. For example, if there is a card that does the same thing as the chaos stone but has a different name and different artwork, I have no reason to get the class deck with the chaos stone. . .

You won't currently find different cards that are the same in all but name and art. (I can't promise that some mook henchman from a future set won't be mechanically the same as some mook henchman from a previous set, but so far, we haven't done that, and I hope we can avoid it for a long time.)

The class decks each have lots of new cards.

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Sorry about that. Intro paragraph has been inserted, and confirms she'll be in Wrath.

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I can confirm that Jack Chick makes nothing from this.

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We have a *lot* of plates spinning between now and Gen Con. All I can say is that we intend to have them up by Gen Con, and will put them up early if we can.

I will also say that you should check the Paizo blog later today.

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Dennis Baker wrote:
Can we get the cover printed upside-down next time?

I will personally make sure that on your subscription copy, not only will the cover be upside down, but the entire interior will be too!

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Oh yay! A thread about whether our art is too sexy or not sexy enough! I'm so glad that this topic has finally been brought up! I'm sure it will cause people to come up with many new ideas that the internet has never seen before, and then it will all end with everyone in complete agreement about where we should go from here.

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Ok, just to be clear here, under the Community Use Policy, people can accept donations to cover the costs of the products they create so long as they are giving away the things they create freely.

The keys here are that you cannot *require* a donation (because that's really just selling something) and that you cannot exceed the *direct costs of the products you create*. You don't get to attach the cost of any Pathfinder thing you ever bought to the project, and you don't even get to assign a cost to your time and effort.

I'll use Wayfinder magazine as an example of somebody who's doing it correctly. Twice each year, they create a fan magazine full of Pathfinder-inspired articles and artwork submitted by the community. It's normally available as a free PDF. However, they usually print up a bunch of copies and bring them to PaizoCon, where they give them away for free. They ask for donations to cover costs, but the costs we're talking about are the direct costs of printing the things they are giving away. They don't get to cover their editorial time, or the products every author bought and referred to while writing their articles. All they get to do is cover printing costs—period.

If the content you are creating under our Community Use Policy is a free PDF, you do not have any recoupable costs, unless you are paying to have those PDFs hosted. (And if you're doing that, I'd suggest you look for free hosting.)

Also, please stop using all caps in your messageboard subjects.

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Yes, yes it did.

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We have plans, but things keep getting complicated. That's likely all I can say for quite some time.

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Mark Seifter wrote:
JoeM wrote:
Last Off Topic Missive:
I was thinking about your spoiler's name for a while. The funny thing is, this is the off-topic forum, so is that post off-topic of off-topic by being on-topic? But would that make it off-topic and thus on-topic? My head hurts.

I think off-topic in Off-Topic is more often like a musical that's "off-off-Broadway".

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Kor - Orc Scrollkeeper wrote:
Erik Mona wrote:

All things will come to you… in time.

Someone's been eating fortune cookies again...

No, that would be "all things will come to you… in bed."

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csouth154 wrote:
Joshua Birk 898 wrote:
xris wrote:
Hawkmoon269 wrote:
Firedale2002 wrote:

It's already been brought up over at BGG, but the recharge text on the spells is a bit off.

It says "You may succeed..." instead of "You may make an attempt..."

Normally when the game says "You may succeed" it means you succeed automatically if you so desire, not you attempt to succeed. So it may cause some issues.

Wouldn't "you may attempt" indicate that as long as you attempted it you can recharge, even if you didn't succeed?

The point here is that the current wording is off.

I would suggest that the text should read "otherwise, succeed at an Arcane 6 check to recharge this card instead of discarding it."

Unfortunately, I suspect the cards have already been printed so we are stuck with the existing version.

The language is perfectly fine as is. You need the "you may" in there to indicate the check is optional. And the use of "succeed at a [Skill] [Difficulty] check" is perfectly consistent across all of their cards, see Goose in the Rigging of Sea Hag.

I think the wording is fine, too.

"You may open the door in order to let me in" does not imply that no effort on your part is required. It is clear that you must open the door. Permission to make the attempt does not mean automatic success.

This. If you want to argue that "otherwise, you may succeed at a Divine 8 check to recharge this card instead of discarding it" has the same meaning as "otherwise, you may recharge this card instead of discarding it", that's beyond pedantic.

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Theryon Stormrune wrote:
cartmanbeck wrote:
You're not supposed to allow this. If they're playing in organized play, they MUST own a Class Deck. That's the rule.

I understand that they should purchase first. But for those that haven't played the game yet, how do you know what you want to play? My feeling is that we'd prefer they purchase a class deck first. It would be better if they did but definitely they will have to if they plan on continuing play.

If I hadn't played the game at all and am interested and I purchased the bard deck without ever looking at the cards (so no knowledge of skill, powers, etc.) and hated the character, then I'm out $20 and probably not going to play again. But if I sit down with no prior knowledge, I get to look at the classes, get a feel for the theme of the character, play one that I think I'd like ... then we'd get a purchase and an ongoing player.

I just have an issue with having to tell someone to purchase a class deck without ever seeing the cards (possibly).

If you have a person who has not played the game, we would prefer you introduce them to the game by taking them through the first scenario in the Skull & Shackles Base Set, using characters built from that box. That scenario is specifically designed for beginners; the OP scenarios are not.

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Vic Wertz wrote:

Uh-oh—that's an old box diagram.

Will fix.

We've fixed it. Re-download the rulebook and trash the old one.

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Loot has always been a type, and will continue to be a type. There are *plenty* of loot cards in S&S.

The point is that Runeforged Weapons *said* it was loot, but it doesn't really act like loot—it doesn't go into anybody's deck (and doesn't count against anybody's deck size). Everybody understood that, but it wasn't because of anything we actually told you, it was because everybody sort of intuitively got the concept.

Support cards are a new thing for S&S (and will also big a very big deal for Wrath). And now that we have them, we have realized that Runeforged Weapons was really the first support card.

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We have amended the resolution for Zombie Nest and Zombie Horde. We care that the zombies get beaten more than we care about who beats them, so if Ranzak passes his zombie off to somebody else, that's fine.

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